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NEW: Tray Today Items

I've developed a nifty little tray application that lets you enable/disable and move up/down items on your today page. This saves a lot of time when you're playing around with today screen plug ins, compared to going through the settings pane.
You can get the first beta here: http://oxymoron.se/traytodayitems_beta1.cab
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Please tell me what you think of it, and how I can improve it. You can also try my Today Programs plugin that you can see in the screen shots, by downloading it from http://oxymoron.se/todayprograms_beta1.cab.
Skip

Hi.
This is very good and saves lots of time. I had to put a short cut in the startup folder myself. Apart from that its perfect on my PDA2K.
Thanks,
Ian Watson

@skip: Looks like your TodayPrograms plugin is about what I am looking for, except: From what what i read is that you put all shortcuts in the 'Programs' folder on the plugin. I would like to have only the shortcuts in a specific (best but not neccesary would be a configurable...) folder shown . . .
Could you introduce that into your plugin?

Great that someone is trying it out!
Like I said it is still a beta version, although I am not aware of any bugs per se. I'll definitely make so that it automatically installs in the startup folder. Also, a program icon would not be too shabby.
Skip

Edsub, your suggestion is not a bad one at all. I first had an idea to make a toggle for every program whether it would show on the today screen or not.
Now I'm thinking that your idea might be even better, let the user choose a folder from which to get the shortcuts. This would allow for an even more flexible choice of programs. However, this would definitely make it harder to customize for people who would rather not deal with the file system and shortcuts.
I'll look into it.
One question: Is a .EXE installer desirable? I'll definitely make the my programs available as .CABs, but would anyone prefer a .EXE installer for Windows and Active Sync?
Skip

IMO a CAB is better. Just copy to the device & tap . . .
With .exe you allways get the question if its a PC or PPC exe . . . .

Hi.
Is it possible for you to add OPTIONS in the menu to allow you to get to the options screen for that item.
Thanks,
Ian

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I'll definitely make so that it automatically installs in the startup folder.
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You should always take care about putting anything in the startup directory, since this modifies the device's behaviour at startup. If there is a problem which requires a reset, the user might not like you messing with startup - I don't.
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IMO a CAB is better. Just copy to the device & tap . . .
With .exe you allways get the question if its a PC or PPC exe . . . .
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Disagree again I'm afraid, what about people who don't want to install to the default location but want to put the s/w on a Storage card? Unless you have CABinstaller you can't easily. Always provide both options if you want to keep the users happy.

That's a good idea. I should be able to call up the options screen somehow. I'll see when I find time to work on it.
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LeSkip said:
Edsub, your suggestion is not a bad one at all. I first had an idea to make a toggle for every program whether it would show on the today screen or not.
Now I'm thinking that your idea might be even better, let the user choose a folder from which to get the shortcuts. This would allow for an even more flexible choice of programs. However, this would definitely make it harder to customize for people who would rather not deal with the file system and shortcuts.
I'll look into it.
One question: Is a .EXE installer desirable? I'll definitely make the my programs available as .CABs, but would anyone prefer a .EXE installer for Windows and Active Sync?
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Hi LeSkip, good start, really like to today tray items program.
With respect to the Today Program yes an EXE installer would be great. I like your original idea to be able to choose which programs to display.
Also if I choose say 15 programs to display it overlaps the programs instead of say placing on a second line or like iLauncher having an Icon to get to the second set. Also making the icon Size configurable would be great.
I have the Icons on my screen, but tapping one does not start the program. Also I have choosen 8 icons to display, the eight Icon is cutoff (it is cutoff about 1/2 cm before the right side of the screen).

Today Programs is definitely far from finished, I just wanted to see there was a user base for this kind of application.
An option to use 16x16 icons instead of the large 32x32 is high on my to-do list. Letting the user show more than the number of programs that actually fits on the screen isn't much use, so I'll just limit the number to whatever width the screen has.
I am working on tapping as a way of launching.
Small arrows that show when there are more programs to scroll to will be added soon.
The right side cut off has to do with the program being launched when a scroll bar was visible. I'll try to solve this problem.
Skip

Hi.
I have only installed the Tray Today software. Is the other software with the icons for creating software shortcuts? I use tdLaunch: http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=176
The Tray Today software is really good - even better with an "options" in the menu . But there seems to be quite a few other icon shortcut software for the Today Screen. Is yours going to be any different to others? Like I said, I have not installed yours yet.
Regards,
Ian Watson

The sole purpose of "Today programs" (horrible development name) is easy access to the Programs folder with the D-pad. I was getting annoyed with having to click Start>Programs to access them. I haven't tried any similar products, but there's probably several of them.
Skip

Possible new name: Today Switcher... because the natural progression of this tool has got to be to permit people to store multiple Today configurations and switch between them via the tray tool.
It's something I would love to develop - I believe there's one buggy one out there - but I just don't have the hours in the day! So go for it, the world is waiting for it!

Possible new name: Today Switcher... because the natural progression of this tool has got to be to permit people to store multiple Today configurations and switch between them via the tray tool.
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I originally didn't intend to go that far with it, but the idea is starting to appeal to me. I'll try to have an updated version ready by next week, but I'm not sure how much I'll be able to complete by then.
I'm trying to finish my degree this semester, so I don't really have time for my hobbies...
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hello, i found this (or same name) application VERY useful someday, only problem is, that links aren't working now, anyone have link?

Vito Winterface

July 7, 2008 - VITO Technology releases Winterface - a major breakthrough in the world of Windows Mobile interface. Winterface is the Next Generation Shell for Windows Mobile comprising the options of a launcher, a task manager, and a multitude of Today plug-ins. Winterface gives the user unprecedented freedom to easily lay out interface exactly the way they like it.
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As a shell Winterface removes the necessity to turn to default Windows Mobile interface: Today screen and Start menu. Winterface opens instantly whenever users draw a simple gesture on the screen. It allows users to have as many screens as they need and put on them icons for applications, settings and contacts. The screens are flipped through with sliding finger gestures. The icons for such applications as phone, sms, email, battery, clock, calendar, memory, etc. - all show relevant information and thus replace a number of Today plug-ins.

Pros:
- it is vast and very sensitive
Cons:
- just another iphone ripoff
- it is just several pages of buttons, nothing more. No reason to use it.
- it looks ugly when compared with other products like PointUI or SPB MS 2
Conclusion:
It is waste of time.

CommZ said:
Pros:
- it is vast and very sensitive
Cons:
- just another iphone ripoff
- it is just several pages of buttons, nothing more. No reason to use it.
- it looks ugly when compared with other products like PointUI or SPB MS 2
Conclusion:
It is waste of time.
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Yes software is too simple and not today plugin ( No clock, no singnal, no battery...no.....) . Ones is here have onlied in screenlock but also obscurely exept clock it be visibility .

Maby they released it quickly before iSwish is released.

Nothing special here move along..hehe

Thanks, I like it.

Well... It has some problems.
- The program launches by adding a finger-gesture to the os. The gesture is a curved swipe from left to right.
This worked well with my right thumb. Too well perhaps, becouse it works everywhere.
Like in googlemaps and opera mini. It pops up the winterface every-friggin-time you pan to left.
- You can't turn off the "slide-to-unlock" feature. Which is insane. Why do i need it in a device that has a power button that already locks-up the buttons.
- There is no "settings" menu. No customization, no nothing.
- It seems that it drained my battery over night. Had a nice tone of "battery depleted" to wake up to, this morning.
- I added a bunch of contacts to the menu. Then i realized that i would physically have to drag every single one to a screen that is 3 slides away.
In my opinion. This is not a finished product.

i agree that the software is unfinished product, it shouldn't be 1.0 version, i suggest this should be 0.1 version
1. no setting, and battery, time, etc which should be on the top of screen, now they are taking place of the first page (or if you want to go to second page find out what's battery situation?)
2. the screen lock stopping music play, when i press the power button, it should just screen off, but the winterface make the phone off, even during my phone call, when i press power button, i cannot hear other side,(i guess they won't hear me either)
3. the screen lock freeze the screen, the slide button may stay in the middle of the bar, and i have no choice but reset my phone.---how stupid! how dare they put 1.0 on the version?
after 1 day surf, i just have no choice but uninstall it.

lock screen
if the lock screen gets stuck in the middle just go to your normal task manager and end the program. the swipe your finger to restart it and it should be fine again.

Wow. I'm almost to the end of the trial period and I've had almost none of the problems listed here on my Tilt. Except, of course, for the left-right swipe which is VERY irritating when using Opera. But, I've never had it affect music or calls. As far as the power indicator, there is a bug when you first load it in, but I went to Settings on the menu and added the Power option. Now, there's a power indicator. Granted, it's only on the first screen.
My only other gripe is that not all of the applications on my phone are on the application list and, therefore, I can't make an icon for it. That kind of sucks since it makes a program like MoNotes useless.
Other than that, I thought it was really solid and prefer it to Pointui or Mobile Shell. BUT, I use other Vito software, so it's more geared to my phone anyway.

It was fun to play with for about 3 minutes! then I uninstalled it as there is no comparison to Spb MS....

same here...loaded and used shortly. has potential, but lacks customization. also, does not support 5 way navigation - touch only. didn't like that. unistalled as well.

Thank gawd it's no comparison to PointUI --- I can't stand that thing. I like a simple interface that lets me start programs, close programs and tells me what time it is. I don't need spinning menus and cubes and suns and moons, etc...
Curious though, what is 5 way navigation -- I only have touch on my phone so maybe that's what I don't know? lol

it could have been a very nice thing - 3 years ago
but i think it's really not interesting now

I tried it and now I love it.
Whatever I need is there (time/date with links to alarm clock/calendar, programs shortcuts, task management, quick dial for contacts). Moreover It's really responsive and lighter on memory than both PointUI and SPB Shell.
I must say, however, that it has also some small annoyances:
the "too much common" startup gesture for example.
Winterface is not perfect but IMHO a very good option as a shell replacement.

any one have problem with battery drain?

vito icons
here are the ones in currently using.i also found out if you have pictures set, the boarder around the pictures will mess with the pictures. so if you have pictures set on winterface just keep that in mind. i dont have pictures set for contacts so it doesn't bother me.
Download link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?cyfztycc0de\
put these two files in Program files/vito/winterface/skin/bin
and if you have it on your storage card just go to your storage card first.
Then you just close and restart winterface. Both the first pics i posted and the s2u button are included in the download.
YOU WILL FIND PICTURES OF WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT HERE(original post)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406233&page=6

thanks for this! love this app. fits perfectly with my others like sms-chat, s2v, s2p.

I think this program certainly has alot of potential, and like the interface and how easy it is to customize it exactly the way you want it.

thia is a great app. I have been testing this today and it very fast and easy to customize.

[Q] Battery Tile?

First let me just say that I am aware of Battery Tool and it is very useful, but after looking and searching many threads, having gone to the windows phone 7 development and hacking thread and other phones which have WP7, I cannot find any applocation tile which just displays the battery percentage, is they any? If not, how would one go about designing one?

Don't think you can at the moment. WP7s api was shipped with this feature missing. Will have to wait for updates, probably ManGo late this year.

Beany69 said:
Don't think you can at the moment. WP7s api was shipped with this feature missing. Will have to wait for updates, probably ManGo late this year.
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Thanks for that, would be a useful tool to have. Trying to see how the battery is behaving, getting weird patterns, some days, with very heavy usage, I get a good 12 hours usage with at least 40% left. Now, today, been using the phone for a few hours, not heavy usage and 40% has gone, restarted the phone as the battery percentage is not always accurate and got the same reading.

as he said, there isnt any API available to get this information
as for your battery, WP7 was not ment for your device, in short it doesnt have a clue what its doing, you battey may appear full but probably isnt, charging externally is just about the only way to be sure, do not assume windows knows what its doing because it doesnt, any battery tool for our device would have the same problem, i think the answer is quite simple, if you want a zero hassle device that lasts a good amount of time, then buy a real one, cuz the HD2, dispite its brillience has its issues that are unlikely to be fixed.

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as he said, there isnt any API available to get this information
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It there isn't how does the Battery Tool app get the battery information?

Need battery app, if it can work with hd2 android it should work with hd2 wp7, wp7 is more a fit than android for the hd2.

mickfarr said:
It there isn't how does the Battery Tool app get the battery information?
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well its a hunch, but given that HTC make the thing im guessing they know how to access the information directly from the battery controller, its also worth pointing out that the HTC tools need side loaded, you can not access them in a usual manor.
this also explains why the battery tool along with WP7 its self doesnt know what the hell its doing with regards to the battery because both teh tool and WP7 believe its not our hardware

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well its a hunch, but given that HTC make the thing im guessing they know how to access the information directly from the battery controller,
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It's not much of a hunch and doesn't explain anything, if they can do it others can too. I can see my WP7 battery percentage displayed on my PC and I can see it displayed on my WP7 and the software I'm using is not written by HTC or by Microsoft. So it can be done.
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its also worth pointing out that the HTC tools need side loaded, you can not access them in a usual manor.
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That has nothing to do with anything! I have apps that can only be loaded by side loading. It just means its not available in the market place

Just going through the touchexperince beta forums and one user asked if Julien could display the battery % on a live tile and his response is:
"Unfortunately there is no multitasking so I can't provide real time info like battery or signal to the tile when TouchXperience is not running."

mickfarr said:
It's not much of a hunch and doesn't explain anything, if they can do it others can too. I can see my WP7 battery percentage displayed on my PC and I can see it displayed on my WP7 and the software I'm using is not written by HTC or by Microsoft. So it can be done.
That has nothing to do with anything! I have apps that can only be loaded by side loading. It just means its not available in the market place
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It is exactly a hunch, its a thought, its a posibility, its my belief. your asking for an app that is available to use as a tile, as it stand only MS has access to auto updating tiles, the API that allows access to the battery information is not available to anyone, however if you build the thing then its likely you would have the knowledge to access the information outside of the "microsoft domain" of control. you have an App that shows battery info on your WP7 that isnt made by HTC or MS then please let me know what it is, likewise, what is the program that you have on your PC that isnt made by HTC or Microsoft that allows access to your battery information? just curious.
The side loading is very relavent, it limits what access you have to the system, as it stands because MS doesnt give access to battery information you would need to bypass microsoft, hence you would need to side load the application which is exactly what the HTC battery tool has to do.

The 2 programs are TouchExperience and Windows Phone Device Manager. They're not released just yet but keep a look out at www.touchxperience.com for more information.
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intresting, i stand corrected, i just got it yesterday myself, but the application does need to be side loaded.
it must be getting to info in the same manor as HTC tool, ie directly as there is no API to access it via MS which makes sence since it needs side loaded.
oh im guessing the desktop is pulling the info from the client app it installs.

Acer Aspire One (D257) can upgrade to Win8 Pro or not?

I have an Acer Aspire One D257 netbook with system:
32 bit system
CPU: Intel Atom N570 (Doul Core 1.66 GHz, 1M L2 Catch)
RAM: 2 GB
Screen Resolution: 1024 x 600 (MAX)
I want to know, can I upgrade to Windows 8 Pro with this screen resolution? What are the common issues that I will face after upgraded?
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Windows 8 32bit is fine.

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Windows 8 32bit is fine.
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I worry about the screen resolution, especially the metro app of win 8...

The OS will run fine. However, you will not be able to use "Metro" apps at that resolution. You'll basically be limited to the Desktop. You'll get the advantages of the faster boot times, lower RAM usage, greater security, and the refresh/reset features of Win8, but otherwise it will be pretty much the same as Win7 it terms of what you can do with it. Your CPU won't support Client Hyper-V, your display won't support Metro apps, you don't have a touchscreen to take advantage of, you (probably) don't have cellular data to take advantage of the Win8 features there, I'd guess you aren't using multiple displays with it very often so the improvements in WIn8 with multimonitor won't be relevant...
Also, WTF? That's a lower resolution than many current phones have! Sounds highly unpleasant to attempt to use; are you sure it wouldn't be better to just get a device with decent specs?

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The OS will run fine. However, you will not be able to use "Metro" apps at that resolution. You'll basically be limited to the Desktop. You'll get the advantages of the faster boot times, lower RAM usage, greater security, and the refresh/reset features of Win8, but otherwise it will be pretty much the same as Win7 it terms of what you can do with it. Your CPU won't support Client Hyper-V, your display won't support Metro apps, you don't have a touchscreen to take advantage of, you (probably) don't have cellular data to take advantage of the Win8 features there, I'd guess you aren't using multiple displays with it very often so the improvements in WIn8 with multimonitor won't be relevant...
Also, WTF? That's a lower resolution than many current phones have! Sounds highly unpleasant to attempt to use; are you sure it wouldn't be better to just get a device with decent specs?
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So do you recommend to upgrade this mini Acer laptop to Windows 8 Pro? (It is now using Windows 7 Ultimate) :silly:
1024 x 600 is the common resolution of most Acer netbook series...

I guess it depends how much you feel the extra RAM is worth it. Running Win8 instead of Win7 will give you back probably at least a few hundred megs of RAM do the de-duplication process, which on a 2GB system may be a pretty big deal. On the other hand, at that resolution, you probably aren't multitasking much anyhow... so maybe you don't care.
The security improvements are mostly only relevant on 64-bit; a 32-bit system will derive much less benefit over Win7 in this area.
It's theoretically possible that there will be Win8-only non-Metro apps that you want to run, but it seems unlikely. If Win7 is working out for you, I'd suggest you stick with that. Your hardware just isn't going to let you take advantage of most of the Win8 features. In the meantime, you'd have to deal with the Win8 mis-features, like the fact that Start search now requires extra clicks to access things listed under Settings or Files, and you'd lose the built-in games since the Win8 ones are Metro.

Hack to get Metro working
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I worry about the screen resolution, especially the metro app of win 8...
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Metro apps will not run in less than 1024×768 which the Acer can’t do but there is a hack.
The hack involves setting display scaling so you can set the display to be a non native resolution. To go this you need to load up REGEDIT which you can do by clicking on Start, then start typing REGEDIT, this will bring up the search screen and then click on the app.
Navigate to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video
Then find you display devices , I had four listed and it was the 2nd key. Click on the display (it will be something like {CA7B02A8-373B-4A4D-8E4E-4196CF23A532}
Then select 000
A whole list of keys will be displayed, find “Display1_DownScalingSupported” and set the value to 1 and then quit Regedit and reboot.
After a reboot you can then go in to display settings and change the resolution to 1024×768, its not a native resolution so it doesn’t look as smooth as the native setting but you will find that Metro apps will now load.
I hope this helps. always set a restore point before making any changes to your system.

I have tried this hack on my sons Acer One. However whenever he starts a metro app, the computer hangs so it wasn't much of an improvement.

WIN 10 new 20H2 fall update

Hello to all...
As Windows user and tester I will explain some major things happening in new win October update aka 20H2.
First of all...
ANNOYING CORTANA rises from dead...
As soon update is configured and Windows boots up, take Cortana offline, it is just like virus, it must know everything you are doing and gets me very annoyed just from opening interface on startup. Is this some Microsoft new development of UI to take over your machine ? Who would know. Looks like Cortana is just like COVID 19 , Microsoft spread this globally and then let's you to know that the cure will be developed in near future (win updates again). In simple way to wxplain ... Microsoft once again push Cortana and hopes that people will embrace it and start using it, while not knowing that just like Google history search, it saves any history of using computer and sends it to Microdoft for processing (providing your computer data - all).
Second thing is...
UPDATE RESTORED FIRST DEFAULT SETTINGS after update.
I don't know if you guys are expiriencing this, but why everytime major update kicks in and restores default settings, changing colorson screen, lock screens settings , etc.
I noticed that update removed color from my START MENU (my accent color) and got default grey , now it looks so monochromatic. That's a major update to fix some stuff in Windows :laugh:
In adition you can't go to the old control panel / system icon anymore. Now it takes you too settings in tab ABOUT.
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- that looks like About your phone in phone settings (first clues Microsoft is converting Windows slowly in Android base style OS).
Third...
Microsoft is pushing newly (but old) EDGE browser while integrating it slowly in shell like Google Chrome does, and possibly not giving the user right to erase browser in any way (this is not tested yet, but will test EDGE properties, use and removal of it).
Fourth and last...
Launching your SAMSUNG phones apps in Win desktop.
Why only SAMSUNG phones??
Other models and brands does not exist ???
Microsoft is expanding the “Your Phone” app with more features designed for “select Samsung devices.” They said.
If you have one of these phones, you can now access your phone’s Android apps directly on your Windows 10 PC. They’ll be running on your phone but you can launch, see, and interact with them on your Windows 10 desktop. They said.
Running apps of Android in Windows 10 is a good idea but I mean it is most likely be better for all android based phones to have this support. Which turns me back to JAVA. After all this years JAVA and FLASH (which support ends in about a month) were taken seriously by Microsoft and they developed a interface NOW in 2020 to get apps working in WIn 10 enviroment. Clearly , let's face it, Microsoft is losing the battle with apps and their Microsoft store.
I opened this thread for all of us together and to find any abnormalities, good things and mistakes made by Microsoft and their H2 updates. I hope that everyone viewing this will manage to find extra times to discuss future Win 10 updates as they impact on everyday computer use.
Please everyone write some of yours expiriences with new update.
Thanks and Cheers !

Microsoft keeps getting worse and worse... 1709 remains on of the best versions of Windows 10 but unfortunately RTX 3000 series are not supported.
You could join communities interested in Windows debloating and tweaking,I'm part of one but probably I cannot link it here.
2004 was a good update,some increased performance but higher latency.I didn't test 20H2 yet