After rooting my H810, I was unable to Greenify Facebook, as it was recognized as a system app (preinstalled bloat), and seemed to be a major battery hog. I was also limited on how I could limit its permissions.
I used Titanium Backup to delete that FB app, then reinstalled it from the market. That version was able to be Greenified, and there is more control over permissions. Since then, I have seen a considerable improvement in battery life. I've been unplugged since 6:20 this morning and I'm still at 76% right now at 2:26! I don't know if there was something rogue going on with the FB app behind the scenes, but I see a huge improvement. Far too significant to be a placebo.
What permissions did you limit?
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What permissions did you limit?
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Every single one except location. I usually have that turned off on my phone anyway.
Eric618 said:
Every single one except location. I usually have that turned off on my phone anyway.
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After rooting my H810, I was unable to Greenify Facebook, as it was recognized as a system app (preinstalled bloat), and seemed to be a major battery hog. I was also limited on how I could limit its permissions.
I used Titanium Backup to delete that FB app, then reinstalled it from the market. That version was able to be Greenified, and there is more control over permissions. Since then, I have seen a considerable improvement in battery life. I've been unplugged since 6:20 this morning and I'm still at 76% right now at 2:26! I don't know if there was something rogue going on with the FB app behind the scenes, but I see a huge improvement. Far too significant to be a placebo.
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Then if so get the premium version of greenify which lets you hibernate system apps
Apps like facebook and clean master eats up the major system resources and put a heavy load on the ram and processor..this is a proven thing..and not a personal opinion..
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There's Debloater, so you don't even need root to get rid of the bloat. I also noticed a huge improvement in battery life and responsiveness after clearing out a ton of crap!
I haven't tested this. But I thought I saw someone mention that even if you Debloat an included bloatware app, you can't simply install a replacement (updated version). The phone considers it already installed.
My apologies if a have this wrong. But it sounded like root would be required to replace apps that cannot normally be uninstalled, as was described above.
Did you freeze the Facebook system app or completely uninstall it?
I'm afraid of getting security errors on boot if a system app is missing
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I haven't tested this. But I thought I saw someone mention that even if you Debloat an included bloatware app, you can't simply install a replacement (updated version). The phone considers it already installed.
My apologies if a have this wrong. But it sounded like root would be required to replace apps that cannot normally be uninstalled, as was described above.
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That may be true. I think Debloater does the same as going to the app in the Apps menu and disabling it. I disabled Facebook that way, and it showed up as blocked in Debloater before I'd ever actually blocked anything. (But Debloater lets you disable apps that the menu doesn't.) I don't use Facebook so I haven't tried to install another version.
I completely uninstalled it with TI, rebooted, then installed it fresh from the market. Then I locked down permissions and Greenified.
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I completely uninstalled it with TI, rebooted, then installed it fresh from the market. Then I locked down permissions and Greenified.
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How do you change the permissions?
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How do you change the permissions?
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I use App Ops by Nowsky. It's available in the Play Store.
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Any reason why this continually decides to run even after I end the process in task manager? I do not use the widget and frankly would like to remove it all together. Pleas le help. Thanks.
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Some services are restarted automatically and you can't stop it from happening. You shouldn't be killing tasks anyway.
OK. Is this service/app required for the phone. If not, Where can I find this particular apk to remove
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if you are rooted you can use an app "root explorer" to go into the system apps and move the daily briefing apk. move it to a folder on your sd card as a backup in case you ever need it again. then reboot your phone, go to manage applications and you should be able to uninstall it.
ive done this with other system apps without a problem (dualclock, buddiesnow, telenav,my files and some others) but i kept daily briefing so i dont know how it affects the phone. be sure to have a backup of it.
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if you are rooted you can use an app "root explorer" to go into the system apps and move the daily briefing apk. move it to a folder on your sd card as a backup in case you ever need it again. then reboot your phone, go to manage applications and you should be able to uninstall it.
ive done this with other system apps without a problem (dualclock, buddiesnow, telenav,my files and some others) but i kept daily briefing so i dont know how it affects the phone. be sure to have a backup of it.
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Ive done this myself already, i just dont know what the name of the apk is for daily breifieng. is it days.apk? is it possibly stored in another location? Let me know. Thanks!
ah my bad. for some reason daily briefing is named infoalarm.apk
so move that one and infoalarm.odex also
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Some services are restarted automatically and you can't stop it from happening. You shouldn't be killing tasks anyway.
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People say this but I have never seen any hard data to back it up. What I can tell you is since I started running ATK on my phone my battery life has improved immensely and I have experience none of the lag or app startup delay that others have complained about.
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ah my bad. for some reason daily briefing is named infoalarm.apk
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yep that did the trick. Thanks!
Thanks for the info! Daily Briefing has been on my uninstall list ever since I noticed it popping up in the task list constantly, and accessing the web. Never could find it listed in uninstall apps lists. Finally, unable to uninstall it in the GoLauncher app drawer, I added it to a homescreen and long pressed it, and selected Uninstall from the popup. The uninstall process started and continued normally, but at the end I got "Unsuccessful". I ran the app for the first time ever and went to Settings and unchecked all the boxes. The app went from 3 screens to one, that just says no information. I'm hoping this keeps it inactive... Will let you know how it went.
Upgraded to 4.4 with a clean wipe. I uninstalled some of the Google apps I never use such as currents ect. After awhile some apps start to force close such as settings. After I reboot or wipe cache or both the apps then reinstall themselves. Strange. I have never had a problem like this in any other version of android. Anyone else?
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yea, i found out two weeks ago that you cant uninstall system apps in kitkat without getting a fc in settings. my way around it, i disabled 19 of the apps found in /system/app/ instead of deleting them. it seems to work just as well. pick any of the apps, select to view its info, tben press disable in the app info screen. itll remove that app from the app drawer as well.
Thanks Simms. Your one helpful dude! I always felt better totally getting ride of them to open up more space but it is what it is.
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Thanks Simms. Your one helpful dude! I always felt better totally getting ride of them to open up more space but it is what it is.
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its what i do too, and always done. i have found that you can delete a few apps in /system/app/, like plus one, but they cant be considered system apps. its one of the first things i noticed about kitkat, that settings fc after removing system apps.
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yea, i found out two weeks ago that you cant uninstall system apps in kitkat without getting a fc in settings. my way around it, i disabled 19 of the apps found in /system/app/ instead of deleting them. it seems to work just as well. pick any of the apps, select to view its info, tben press disable in the app info screen. itll remove that app from the app drawer as well.
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This is wrong on so many levels. After years rooting and running custom roms, I'm suddenly stuck with a load of bloatware if I upgrade to 4.4. I only use the account manager and Play Store and don't want any other Google apks, and would like to do without even those two, in fact I have no Google account 99% of the time and both are disabled unless I have to update something.
Hope there's a way out of this...
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Everyone around uses greenify, but I am on stock and not rooted. I have greenified almost every other system app. Anyone who has a decent hold over knowledge when it comes too greenifying system apps can tell me which ones are safe and which ones shouldnt be greenified ? Thanks in advance.
i greenifying motorola update, device management, Rescue Add-on:Motorola, initializing services motorola; and deleted moto care/int .
motorola modality services its for "moto screen" and shouldnt disable if u use that.
i want to know more too ;D
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Everyone around uses greenify, but I am on stock and not rooted. I have greenified almost every other system app. Anyone who has a decent hold over knowledge when it comes too greenifying system apps can tell me which ones are safe and which ones shouldnt be greenified ? Thanks in advance.
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I don't think its necessary anymore to greenify system apps since android 6. Its better to disable the moto and google services in settings > apps. Disabling also prevents the services to start when booting and saves more power and memory.
Even I have disabled these apps but battery keeps draining as most of the system apps are awake all the time. So to save more and squeeze more battery life I was wondering if its safe to hibernate motorola services and apps.
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Even I have disabled these apps but battery keeps draining as most of the system apps are awake all the time. So to save more and squeeze more battery life I was wondering if its safe to hibernate motorola services and apps.
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follow this to disable even more system apps www.xda-developers.com/setting-up-android-marshmallow-without-google/
just greenify all user apps and turn auto hibernation on that should be enough IMO.
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follow this to disable even more system apps www.xda-developers.com/setting-up-android-marshmallow-without-google/
just greenify all user apps and turn auto hibernation on that should be enough IMO.
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Link not working. However I know about automated hibernation.. But with no root device there is hardly any scope for deep hibernation.
Edit : worked from laptop.
PS : This needs custom recovery ?
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Link not working. However I know about automated hibernation.. But with no root device there is hardly any scope for deep hibernation.
Edit : worked from laptop.
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just google "setting up marshmallow without Google xda ". or open that link in PC or another browser because it is opening in my browser.
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just google "setting up marshmallow without Google xda ". or open that link in PC or another browser because it is opening in my browser.
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Done, this needs custom recovery ? I am on stock and not rooted.
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Done, this needs custom recovery ? I am on stock and not rooted.
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no, you don't even need to root... just go to settings--apps--show system and start disabling according to the guide whatever you don't need.
I never greenify system apps since android lollipop and never have had strange battery drains so far. Its normal that a lot of system apps are running in the background, thats why they call it a smartphone. Just auto greenify your user apps and disable all services you don't use in android settings. And don't use wakelock detectors, because it only makes you crazy seeing how much services are running in the background which is completely normal. You can auto hibernate user apps without root, only takes a little longer to hibernate.
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no, you don't even need to root... just go to settings--apps--show system and start disabling according to the guide whatever you don't need.
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You should go through the article once, clearly talks about custom recovery, running commands. There is no option to run command from stock recovery.
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You should go through the article once, clearly talks about custom recovery, running commands. There is no option to run command from stock recovery.
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That is for removing Google products totally... Go to the end of the article it has a list of products which you can disable without causing any problems.
Have successfully removed all the google apps. Only issue is Ola cabs app doesnt work without play services and still looking for a proper standalone YouTube app. Plus contacts synchronisation app if available.. Rest I have replaced allmost all.
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Hi all,
I have a question regarding the new app permission management in Marshmallow 6.0.1. In Lollipop (5.1.1) we used to have the option to prevent an app from waking up the device or keeping it awake. I used to uncheck that box for Google Play services as this was constantly running and eating up my battery. When I go through the new extended Marshmallow app management, I get several options that i can allow or deny (body sensors, calendars, camera, contacts, location, etc. see attached screenshot). But nowhere can I find the option to prevent the app/service from waking up or keeping the device awake.
Anyone know where I can find this or how to do this in Marshmallow?
OneTruth said:
Hi all,
I have a question regarding the new app permission management in Marshmallow 6.0.1. In Lollipop (5.1.1) we used to have the option to prevent an app from waking up the device or keeping it awake. I used to uncheck that box for Google Play services as this was constantly running and eating up my battery. When I go through the new extended Marshmallow app management, I get several options that i can allow or deny (body sensors, calendars, camera, contacts, location, etc. see attached screenshot). But nowhere can I find the option to prevent the app/service from waking up or keeping the device awake.
Anyone know where I can find this or how to do this in Marshmallow?
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Use latest package disabler for preventing apps to awake the phone or updated through Google play
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Use latest package disabler for preventing apps to awake the phone or updated through Google play
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Is that the only way for now?
That's the appropriate way I know
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That's the appropriate way I know
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What I can find in the Play Store is Package Disabler Pro (Samsung). From the description and the screenshots I see you can enable/disable apps/services. I can do that already with Titanium Backup. But I can't disable the Google Play services, I just want to keep them from waking up the device, or keeping it awake while screen is off.
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What I can find in the Play Store is Package Disabler Pro (Samsung). From the description and the screenshots I see you can enable/disable apps/services. I can do that already with Titanium Backup. But I can't disable the Google Play services, I just want to keep them from waking up the device, or keeping it awake while screen is off.
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Yes but with Package Disabler Pro for Samsung you can do things, that you can't with TTB, in one word it's more powerful
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Yes but with Package Disabler Pro for Samsung you can do things, that you can't with TTB, in one word it's more powerful
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TB does what it needs to do for me, as I'm not looking for anything beyond what it can do. Just freeze apps/services I don't use and every once in a while a backup. I just need something good that can prevent an app from waking up device, just like the basic functionality we had in Lollipop in the app management section.
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Yes but with Package Disabler Pro for Samsung you can do things, that you can't with TTB, in one word it's more powerful
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You're completely missing his point. He doesn't want to disable google play services, he wants to prevent it from waking up the phone.
Package Disabler Pro is more powerful than TB? I hope you're trolling.
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TB does what it needs to do for me, as I'm not looking for anything beyond what it can do. Just freeze apps/services I don't use and every once in a while a backup. I just need something good that can prevent an app from waking up device, just like the basic functionality we had in Lollipop in the app management section.
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As far as I can tell, the doze feature is supposed to be in charge of preventing wakelocks and keep your phone from staying awake. So Google probably thought that denying the stay awake permission isn't needed anymore. Tbh, it denying 'stay awake' in app permissions in previous builds on android didn't do much for battery life, at least for me. Some things you could try is cleaning google play services data, and deleting google now if you dont use it.
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You're completely missing his point. He doesn't want to disable google play services, he wants to prevent it from waking up the phone.
Package Disabler Pro is more powerful than TB? I hope you're trolling.
As far as I can tell, the doze feature is supposed to be in charge of preventing wakelocks and keep your phone from staying awake. So Google probably thought that denying the stay awake permission isn't needed anymore. Tbh, it denying 'stay awake' in app permissions in previous builds on android didn't do much for battery life, at least for me. Some things you could try is cleaning google play services data, and deleting google now if you dont use it.
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You did not understand me either! What I've said is that Package Disabler Pro not only can prevent app from waking up the phone, but can prevent such app from updated by Google play service.
I also maintain that Package Disabler Pro is more powerful than TTB in terms of preventing an app from doing anything even operating in the background.
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@Bhavpreet I think for me it did quite the thing. Before I disabled apps/services I didn't need I saw Google Play Services popping up in the battery stats a lot. Once I hit the switch and didn't allow the service to wake up the phone or keep it awake, it disappeared from the battery stats.
Currently, from what I can see in the battery stats, the play service is running 4 things:
- Google Service Framework
- Google Play Services
- Google Backup Transport
- Google Account Manager
I have the backup to cloud enabled for contacts/notes/etc. Which one of the above is safe to freeze without interfering in that process?
@zizon65 Are you talking about freezing/disabling an app? Or only stopping it from waking up the device, but leaving the service/app intact for when you manually open it?
@OneTruth it could be achieved by using xposed for the module appopsxposed though I only tested it under cm13 on another phone
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You did not understand me either! What I've said is that Package Disabler Pro not only can prevent app from waking up the phone, but can prevent such app from updated by Google play service.
I also maintain that Package Disabler Pro is more powerful than TTB in terms of preventing an app from doing anything even operating in the background.
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He does not want to disable it, he just wants to stop it from waking the device. Disabling google play services effectively transforms your device into a dumb phone, whats the point?
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@Bhavpreet I think for me it did quite the thing. Before I disabled apps/services I didn't need I saw Google Play Services popping up in the battery stats a lot. Once I hit the switch and didn't allow the service to wake up the phone or keep it awake, it disappeared from the battery stats.
Currently, from what I can see in the battery stats, the play service is running 4 things:
- Google Service Framework
- Google Play Services
- Google Backup Transport
- Google Account Manager
I have the backup to cloud enabled for contacts/notes/etc. Which one of the above is safe to freeze without interfering in that process?
@zizon65 Are you talking about freezing/disabling an app? Or only stopping it from waking up the device, but leaving the service/app intact for when you manually open it?
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You wont be able to remove any of those 4 services without breaking google play services as a whole afaik. I don't even use google for my backup account, but i still have backup transport eating at my battery. Google Services, on average, uses 1-4% of my battery, usually on the lower end. Like I said, clear its data and cache, give it a restart, and see if that helps. I also recommend turning off auto update in the playstore, and deleting google now data and app and reinstalling it.
Last option, and this will definitely work considering you upgraded, factory reset the device.
Also, PDP disables apps, meaning it completely gets rid of them from your device until theyre enabled again, which is not a solution to your problem.
@Bhavpreet How com this was possible in Lollipop without breaking anything? Everything was running perfectly for me, without Google Play Services ever showing up in the battery stats. So I won't be factory resetting. Clearing cache already did that, no result. Will try out @Zenroid solution.
I think this is doing the trick. Will post back with results after the next full charge.
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@OneTruth it could be achieved by using xposed for the module appopsxposed though I only tested it under cm13 on another phone
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It seems like I get longer Battery life after completely wiping everything related to Google (Including Google Play/Mobile Services) with root (I was already. It isn't worth it to root just to degoogle your phone as you can remove most google packages with tha adb shell uninstall command. But with root you can wipe every single one of them). Is this possible (I think yes as there is no Google Services running in the background all the time. No location services, no Google Play, no Mobile Services or Google Synchronization......)? Should I post a tutorial?
Your thoughts?
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It seems like I get longer Battery life after completely wiping everything related to Google (Including Google Play/Mobile Services) with root. Is this possible (I think yes as there is no Google Services running in the background all the time. No location services, no Google Play, no Mobile Services or Google Synchronization......)? Should I post a tutorial?
Your thoughts?
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Hi...i don't think it makes sense to root it for that..you can disable all off with CCSWE or Package Disabler apk and enable it on again if necessary .... and as for the battery, it will certainly last a bit longer without Google service... if you already have a turorial ready, why not ...
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Hi...i don't think it makes sense to root it for that..you can disable all off with CCSWE or Package Disabler apk and enable it on again if necessary .... and as for the battery, it will certainly last a bit longer without Google service... if you already have a turorial ready, why not ...
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I was already rooted. It would be really stupid to just to remove some apps as you can remove most of them with adb.
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I was already rooted. It would be really stupid to just to remove some apps as you can remove most of them with adb.
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Exactly , and that's another example that doesn't need root for something like that...and that stupidity has nothing to do with this case ... anyone can do whatever they want with their device ... it was my opinion that you suggested in the OP.. [emoji6]
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Play services tends to use more than it should for battery on ANY device and disabling it will definately help with battery life. The hit in battery is just the sacrifice you make to run ANY app that utilizes play services (not just google apps, and more than one would think).
I debloat and remove a lot of useless sh*t using adb appcontrol.
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I debloat and remove a lot of useless sh*t using adb appcontrol.
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I think app control only disables the package. Correct me if I'm wrong.
For a full removal I recommend the adb uninstall command it goes:
adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 [PackageNameHere]
You can use an app like package names viewer 2.0 to get the package names
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I removed only the stuff that I am absolutely certain I will never need, like Facebook and kids crap. The rest is disabled via CCSWE App Manager.
You can do whatever you like. Just make a list of everything you remove, in case you need to reinstall something later.
if it is rooted, make backups of the apps with Titanium. Disabling it doesn't do much good because they will still be on the device. Crap is Crap, delete it...
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I think app control only disables the package. Correct me if I'm wrong.
For a full removal I recommend the adb uninstall command it goes:
adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 [PackageNameHere]
You can use an app like package names viewer 2.0 to get the package names
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As far as I understand it only removes it from user 0, the primary user, but still persists, although it´s not actiated. If an app is locked, you can´t uninstall it entirely. On the other hand, I understand that you can still make the official updates when doing it this way.
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It seems like I get longer Battery life after completely wiping everything related to Google (Including Google Play/Mobile Services) with root (I was already. It isn't worth it to root just to degoogle your phone as you can remove most google packages with tha adb shell uninstall command. But with root you can wipe every single one of them). Is this possible (I think yes as there is no Google Services running in the background all the time. No location services, no Google Play, no Mobile Services or Google Synchronization......)? Should I post a tutorial?
Your thoughts?
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If you haven´t tried it already, try to install PCAPdroid and see how many apps are trying to connect to some server somewhere all the time without any benefit for you. Although I knew I was beeing monitored at a very detailed level, I was still shocked. Now I got it under control with NetGuard, an other app I can recommend. The paid version of NetGuard also comes with a simple network log (not straight forward to configure, but works fine). It´s some very handy tools.
The point is, of course you can save battery if you uninstall all those abusive apps that constantly uses your CPU and Internet connection. I don´t know how much, but some you can save.