Hi all,
I have a question regarding the new app permission management in Marshmallow 6.0.1. In Lollipop (5.1.1) we used to have the option to prevent an app from waking up the device or keeping it awake. I used to uncheck that box for Google Play services as this was constantly running and eating up my battery. When I go through the new extended Marshmallow app management, I get several options that i can allow or deny (body sensors, calendars, camera, contacts, location, etc. see attached screenshot). But nowhere can I find the option to prevent the app/service from waking up or keeping the device awake.
Anyone know where I can find this or how to do this in Marshmallow?
OneTruth said:
Hi all,
I have a question regarding the new app permission management in Marshmallow 6.0.1. In Lollipop (5.1.1) we used to have the option to prevent an app from waking up the device or keeping it awake. I used to uncheck that box for Google Play services as this was constantly running and eating up my battery. When I go through the new extended Marshmallow app management, I get several options that i can allow or deny (body sensors, calendars, camera, contacts, location, etc. see attached screenshot). But nowhere can I find the option to prevent the app/service from waking up or keeping the device awake.
Anyone know where I can find this or how to do this in Marshmallow?
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Use latest package disabler for preventing apps to awake the phone or updated through Google play
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zizon65 said:
Use latest package disabler for preventing apps to awake the phone or updated through Google play
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Is that the only way for now?
That's the appropriate way I know
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That's the appropriate way I know
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What I can find in the Play Store is Package Disabler Pro (Samsung). From the description and the screenshots I see you can enable/disable apps/services. I can do that already with Titanium Backup. But I can't disable the Google Play services, I just want to keep them from waking up the device, or keeping it awake while screen is off.
OneTruth said:
What I can find in the Play Store is Package Disabler Pro (Samsung). From the description and the screenshots I see you can enable/disable apps/services. I can do that already with Titanium Backup. But I can't disable the Google Play services, I just want to keep them from waking up the device, or keeping it awake while screen is off.
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Yes but with Package Disabler Pro for Samsung you can do things, that you can't with TTB, in one word it's more powerful
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Yes but with Package Disabler Pro for Samsung you can do things, that you can't with TTB, in one word it's more powerful
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TB does what it needs to do for me, as I'm not looking for anything beyond what it can do. Just freeze apps/services I don't use and every once in a while a backup. I just need something good that can prevent an app from waking up device, just like the basic functionality we had in Lollipop in the app management section.
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Yes but with Package Disabler Pro for Samsung you can do things, that you can't with TTB, in one word it's more powerful
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You're completely missing his point. He doesn't want to disable google play services, he wants to prevent it from waking up the phone.
Package Disabler Pro is more powerful than TB? I hope you're trolling.
OneTruth said:
TB does what it needs to do for me, as I'm not looking for anything beyond what it can do. Just freeze apps/services I don't use and every once in a while a backup. I just need something good that can prevent an app from waking up device, just like the basic functionality we had in Lollipop in the app management section.
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As far as I can tell, the doze feature is supposed to be in charge of preventing wakelocks and keep your phone from staying awake. So Google probably thought that denying the stay awake permission isn't needed anymore. Tbh, it denying 'stay awake' in app permissions in previous builds on android didn't do much for battery life, at least for me. Some things you could try is cleaning google play services data, and deleting google now if you dont use it.
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You're completely missing his point. He doesn't want to disable google play services, he wants to prevent it from waking up the phone.
Package Disabler Pro is more powerful than TB? I hope you're trolling.
As far as I can tell, the doze feature is supposed to be in charge of preventing wakelocks and keep your phone from staying awake. So Google probably thought that denying the stay awake permission isn't needed anymore. Tbh, it denying 'stay awake' in app permissions in previous builds on android didn't do much for battery life, at least for me. Some things you could try is cleaning google play services data, and deleting google now if you dont use it.
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You did not understand me either! What I've said is that Package Disabler Pro not only can prevent app from waking up the phone, but can prevent such app from updated by Google play service.
I also maintain that Package Disabler Pro is more powerful than TTB in terms of preventing an app from doing anything even operating in the background.
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@Bhavpreet I think for me it did quite the thing. Before I disabled apps/services I didn't need I saw Google Play Services popping up in the battery stats a lot. Once I hit the switch and didn't allow the service to wake up the phone or keep it awake, it disappeared from the battery stats.
Currently, from what I can see in the battery stats, the play service is running 4 things:
- Google Service Framework
- Google Play Services
- Google Backup Transport
- Google Account Manager
I have the backup to cloud enabled for contacts/notes/etc. Which one of the above is safe to freeze without interfering in that process?
@zizon65 Are you talking about freezing/disabling an app? Or only stopping it from waking up the device, but leaving the service/app intact for when you manually open it?
@OneTruth it could be achieved by using xposed for the module appopsxposed though I only tested it under cm13 on another phone
zizon65 said:
You did not understand me either! What I've said is that Package Disabler Pro not only can prevent app from waking up the phone, but can prevent such app from updated by Google play service.
I also maintain that Package Disabler Pro is more powerful than TTB in terms of preventing an app from doing anything even operating in the background.
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He does not want to disable it, he just wants to stop it from waking the device. Disabling google play services effectively transforms your device into a dumb phone, whats the point?
OneTruth said:
@Bhavpreet I think for me it did quite the thing. Before I disabled apps/services I didn't need I saw Google Play Services popping up in the battery stats a lot. Once I hit the switch and didn't allow the service to wake up the phone or keep it awake, it disappeared from the battery stats.
Currently, from what I can see in the battery stats, the play service is running 4 things:
- Google Service Framework
- Google Play Services
- Google Backup Transport
- Google Account Manager
I have the backup to cloud enabled for contacts/notes/etc. Which one of the above is safe to freeze without interfering in that process?
@zizon65 Are you talking about freezing/disabling an app? Or only stopping it from waking up the device, but leaving the service/app intact for when you manually open it?
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You wont be able to remove any of those 4 services without breaking google play services as a whole afaik. I don't even use google for my backup account, but i still have backup transport eating at my battery. Google Services, on average, uses 1-4% of my battery, usually on the lower end. Like I said, clear its data and cache, give it a restart, and see if that helps. I also recommend turning off auto update in the playstore, and deleting google now data and app and reinstalling it.
Last option, and this will definitely work considering you upgraded, factory reset the device.
Also, PDP disables apps, meaning it completely gets rid of them from your device until theyre enabled again, which is not a solution to your problem.
@Bhavpreet How com this was possible in Lollipop without breaking anything? Everything was running perfectly for me, without Google Play Services ever showing up in the battery stats. So I won't be factory resetting. Clearing cache already did that, no result. Will try out @Zenroid solution.
I think this is doing the trick. Will post back with results after the next full charge.
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@OneTruth it could be achieved by using xposed for the module appopsxposed though I only tested it under cm13 on another phone
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Hi, I've noticed that Google Maps is taking up a significant portion of my battery (around 75%), whereas the screen only takes up around 8%. I've tried disabling all the location services stuff and it's still at the high percentage, even after reboots. How can I lower how much battery Google Maps is taking? Thanks!
Same for me. I don't know why Google maps is taking so much battery life...
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Use an app called Greenify - it'll hibernate Maps very well to the point it never wakes hardly at all. Be careful with Greenify though, if you add apps to it that require Push notifications then you may never receive your notifications.
akira02rex said:
Use an app called Greenify - it'll hibernate Maps very well to the point it never wakes hardly at all. Be careful with Greenify though, if you add apps to it that require Push notifications then you may never receive your notifications.
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Its telling me it can't do system apps? Therefore it won't hibernate maps. Whats going on here?
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Bjray said:
Its telling me it can't do system apps? Therefore it won't hibernate maps. Whats going on here?
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Doh.. I used it on my galaxy nexus... haven't yet installed it on my S4 and forgot that Maps was pre-installed.. Shame shame samsung.
If you're rooted then you can just delete maps from system then install it from the play store.
akira02rex said:
Doh.. I used it on my galaxy nexus... haven't yet installed it on my S4 and forgot that Maps was pre-installed.. Shame shame samsung.
If you're rooted then you can just delete maps from system then install it from the play store.
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Hmm.... How about if I uninstall it via titanium backup and reinstall it via the play store? Would it work then?
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Bjray said:
Hmm.... How about if I uninstall it via titanium backup and reinstall it via the play store? Would it work then?
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Apparently you're rooted then LOL. Yes, that will work.
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Apparently you're rooted then LOL. Yes, that will work.
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Yeah... Don't know what I was thinking, of course it'll work.
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I'm new to Android, so I don't want to root my phone... are there any alternative solutions? I believe the problem with google maps first appeared after I tried out either WatchOn or S Health. Any opinions/advice?
infinity314 said:
I'm new to Android, so I don't want to root my phone... are there any alternative solutions? I believe the problem with google maps first appeared after I tried out either WatchOn or S Health. Any opinions/advice?
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You can disable it which wilp remove it from your app drawer and disable the app...and then if you do need it you can re enable it...this is all done from settings>application manager than all the way to the right where it shows all apps
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Solution to s4 battery drain by google maps
infinity314 said:
Hi, I've noticed that Google Maps is taking up a significant portion of my battery (around 75%), whereas the screen only takes up around 8%. I've tried disabling all the location services stuff and it's still at the high percentage, even after reboots. How can I lower how much battery Google Maps is taking? Thanks!
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I had the same problem! You can now fix this without rooting your phone.
Open maps\settings\location settings\location reporting, and select do not update your location. Also, uncheck latitiude location sharing and check ins if you don't use them.
Just a tip, ensure your GPS is turned off.
Hope this should improve your battery life.
Google map
i am in the same situation. Even, i don not know how to get out of this application of google map
Hey guys, me again, I have a problem over here one day my phone starts to consume a lot of battery, at first it was the contacts application, then logsprovider, then contact manager, finder application provider and in some cases the android application system, all that I consume the phone, one day is a day other which I can do, since I heated phone use and the battery runs out very quickly.
I have already installed the firmware twice with odin and after a few hours back the same, I've done factory reset and nothing working.
Andr3s said:
Hey guys, me again, I have a problem over here one day my phone starts to consume a lot of battery, at first it was the contacts application, then logsprovider, then contact manager, finder application provider and in some cases the android application system, all that I consume the phone, one day is a day other which I can do, since I heated phone use and the battery runs out very quickly.
I have already installed the firmware twice with odin and after a few hours back the same, I've done factory reset and nothing working.
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Go to Maps settings and turn off location reporting in Google locations setting. Also in Google+. Then go to your Gmail account in settings, long press on your email and uncheck all services you don't want to sync.
xuser said:
Go to Maps settings and turn off location reporting in Google locations setting. Also in Google+. Then go to your Gmail account in settings, long press on your email and uncheck all services you don't want to sync.
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Fine thanks, also use the application Greenify
The new Android Device Manager location finder seems to be the culprit a lot of time now. If you are in a low signal area or have bad gps reception this new app that was pushed to the phone can suck down your battery. You have to disable this feature through the Google settings app in your app drawer.
cruise350 said:
The new Android Device Manager location finder seems to be the culprit a lot of time now. If you are in a low signal area or have bad gps reception this new app that was pushed to the phone can suck down your battery. You have to disable this feature through the Google settings app in your app drawer.
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Has anyone found a solution to this problem? I'm still getting major battery drain from Google Services even with location reporting unchecked and device manager turned off. I don't have this problem on CM10.2, only TW (currently on stock MF9), even though I use the same setup on both roms. Any other tips?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2357417
This is a way to lower usage from Google framework
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I was finally able to take care of the problem. If you force stop Google Play Services and clear the app's data, then force stop the Play Store and clear the app's data, then reboot, it seems to take care of it.
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thanks maxpower7, your reply helped. I was also having battery drain problems suddenly. I cleared the Google Play Services cache en some other things, like disabling location services. Now all is ok.
I did have these services enabled before without any problems.
I am obsessive when it comes to making sure that every app or process that can be closed/hibernated is before I turn my screen off and after I exit an app. So when I was going through everything I could hibernate I noticed that Chrome and the Play Store were noticeably missing. I have added the generic "Internet" app, which I am guessing is actually Chrome since that was the default browser, but I cannot find anything for the Play Store. I was able to Greenify it on my S2 so why can't I even find it on my S5?
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Pretty sure Play Store is regarded as a system app and you need to install xposed framework to allow greenify of system apps. The option can be found under experimental features.
I already have Xposed installed and the option to Greenify system apps checked. I also have the donation version of Greenify. I just for some reason can't find the Chrome and Play Store apps to Greenify.
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cochran.191 said:
I already have Xposed installed and the option to Greenify system apps checked. I also have the donation version of Greenify. I just for some reason can't find the Chrome and Play Store apps to Greenify.
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Just click the search icon then launch the Play Store and then add it to Greenify!
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Thank you. I had tried to do that before but my notification kept disappearing but I updated my app and it worked this time.
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Does hibernating the play store really do much?
To be 100% honest, I am not sure. I haven't run any type of analysis on my battery life to check. But I know that when it's not hibernating it pretty much runs 24/7 and that it opens just as quickly from hibernation as when it isn't. I figure that it can't hurt having one less process running in the background all the time.
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Even hibernating the Play Store, it begins running again after a few minutes. At least for me.
You can use the wakeup tracker to find out what is waking it up and cut it off that way. I haven't done that because it usually only wakes up when I turn the screen on. I Greenify after I turn the screen on and before I turn the screen off every time so that doesn't bother me.
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Everyone around uses greenify, but I am on stock and not rooted. I have greenified almost every other system app. Anyone who has a decent hold over knowledge when it comes too greenifying system apps can tell me which ones are safe and which ones shouldnt be greenified ? Thanks in advance.
i greenifying motorola update, device management, Rescue Add-on:Motorola, initializing services motorola; and deleted moto care/int .
motorola modality services its for "moto screen" and shouldnt disable if u use that.
i want to know more too ;D
ProudRed said:
Everyone around uses greenify, but I am on stock and not rooted. I have greenified almost every other system app. Anyone who has a decent hold over knowledge when it comes too greenifying system apps can tell me which ones are safe and which ones shouldnt be greenified ? Thanks in advance.
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I don't think its necessary anymore to greenify system apps since android 6. Its better to disable the moto and google services in settings > apps. Disabling also prevents the services to start when booting and saves more power and memory.
Even I have disabled these apps but battery keeps draining as most of the system apps are awake all the time. So to save more and squeeze more battery life I was wondering if its safe to hibernate motorola services and apps.
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ProudRed said:
Even I have disabled these apps but battery keeps draining as most of the system apps are awake all the time. So to save more and squeeze more battery life I was wondering if its safe to hibernate motorola services and apps.
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follow this to disable even more system apps www.xda-developers.com/setting-up-android-marshmallow-without-google/
just greenify all user apps and turn auto hibernation on that should be enough IMO.
bablu048 said:
follow this to disable even more system apps www.xda-developers.com/setting-up-android-marshmallow-without-google/
just greenify all user apps and turn auto hibernation on that should be enough IMO.
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Link not working. However I know about automated hibernation.. But with no root device there is hardly any scope for deep hibernation.
Edit : worked from laptop.
PS : This needs custom recovery ?
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ProudRed said:
Link not working. However I know about automated hibernation.. But with no root device there is hardly any scope for deep hibernation.
Edit : worked from laptop.
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just google "setting up marshmallow without Google xda ". or open that link in PC or another browser because it is opening in my browser.
bablu048 said:
just google "setting up marshmallow without Google xda ". or open that link in PC or another browser because it is opening in my browser.
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Done, this needs custom recovery ? I am on stock and not rooted.
ProudRed said:
Done, this needs custom recovery ? I am on stock and not rooted.
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no, you don't even need to root... just go to settings--apps--show system and start disabling according to the guide whatever you don't need.
I never greenify system apps since android lollipop and never have had strange battery drains so far. Its normal that a lot of system apps are running in the background, thats why they call it a smartphone. Just auto greenify your user apps and disable all services you don't use in android settings. And don't use wakelock detectors, because it only makes you crazy seeing how much services are running in the background which is completely normal. You can auto hibernate user apps without root, only takes a little longer to hibernate.
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bablu048 said:
no, you don't even need to root... just go to settings--apps--show system and start disabling according to the guide whatever you don't need.
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You should go through the article once, clearly talks about custom recovery, running commands. There is no option to run command from stock recovery.
ProudRed said:
You should go through the article once, clearly talks about custom recovery, running commands. There is no option to run command from stock recovery.
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That is for removing Google products totally... Go to the end of the article it has a list of products which you can disable without causing any problems.
Have successfully removed all the google apps. Only issue is Ola cabs app doesnt work without play services and still looking for a proper standalone YouTube app. Plus contacts synchronisation app if available.. Rest I have replaced allmost all.
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So far I thought that the battery saver feature "close app after lock" is not working because every time I unlock my phone few apps were working. Usually facebook, instagram and viber. My previous phone was Xiaomi and in xiaomi's software there is an option to block an app from auto-starting and waking your device. Well, today I found the same option in our phone. It is deeply hidden, lol. So i thought some of you may like this option. I think this will be good to the battery life of this device. So let me tell you where you can find the option:
Settings > Battery > Consumption level.
Now you see 2 categories - Hardware and Software. Obviously you should look into the software one. Find the facebook app (for example) and click on it. You will see "Settings" and under it you will find:
1) Power-intensive prompt
2) System wakeup
3) Close after screen lock
Now you can change the second option - System wakeup.
I looked through most of the apps and it seems that it works only with the downloaded apps. Not every app wakes your device but these which wakes your device can be blocked from doing it.
Unfortunately, it has been toggle for a long time in my case and it doesn't stop app like Facebook or Instagram to keep the system awake ?
frenchtouch92 said:
Unfortunately, it has been toggle for a long time in my case and it doesn't stop app like Facebook or Instagram to keep the system awake ?
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Have you tried greenify with donation package and root? Works for me.
That only work for downloaded applications, not preinstaled. Mr suggestion is to uninstall and then unload again from the store.
It worked for me
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komakino76 said:
Have you tried greenify with donation package and root? Works for me.
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No I didn't since I don't have root access on my honor 8 :/ waiting for a stable rom before digging into this