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Everyone around uses greenify, but I am on stock and not rooted. I have greenified almost every other system app. Anyone who has a decent hold over knowledge when it comes too greenifying system apps can tell me which ones are safe and which ones shouldnt be greenified ? Thanks in advance.
i greenifying motorola update, device management, Rescue Add-on:Motorola, initializing services motorola; and deleted moto care/int .
motorola modality services its for "moto screen" and shouldnt disable if u use that.
i want to know more too ;D
ProudRed said:
Everyone around uses greenify, but I am on stock and not rooted. I have greenified almost every other system app. Anyone who has a decent hold over knowledge when it comes too greenifying system apps can tell me which ones are safe and which ones shouldnt be greenified ? Thanks in advance.
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I don't think its necessary anymore to greenify system apps since android 6. Its better to disable the moto and google services in settings > apps. Disabling also prevents the services to start when booting and saves more power and memory.
Even I have disabled these apps but battery keeps draining as most of the system apps are awake all the time. So to save more and squeeze more battery life I was wondering if its safe to hibernate motorola services and apps.
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ProudRed said:
Even I have disabled these apps but battery keeps draining as most of the system apps are awake all the time. So to save more and squeeze more battery life I was wondering if its safe to hibernate motorola services and apps.
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follow this to disable even more system apps www.xda-developers.com/setting-up-android-marshmallow-without-google/
just greenify all user apps and turn auto hibernation on that should be enough IMO.
bablu048 said:
follow this to disable even more system apps www.xda-developers.com/setting-up-android-marshmallow-without-google/
just greenify all user apps and turn auto hibernation on that should be enough IMO.
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Link not working. However I know about automated hibernation.. But with no root device there is hardly any scope for deep hibernation.
Edit : worked from laptop.
PS : This needs custom recovery ?
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ProudRed said:
Link not working. However I know about automated hibernation.. But with no root device there is hardly any scope for deep hibernation.
Edit : worked from laptop.
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just google "setting up marshmallow without Google xda ". or open that link in PC or another browser because it is opening in my browser.
bablu048 said:
just google "setting up marshmallow without Google xda ". or open that link in PC or another browser because it is opening in my browser.
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Done, this needs custom recovery ? I am on stock and not rooted.
ProudRed said:
Done, this needs custom recovery ? I am on stock and not rooted.
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no, you don't even need to root... just go to settings--apps--show system and start disabling according to the guide whatever you don't need.
I never greenify system apps since android lollipop and never have had strange battery drains so far. Its normal that a lot of system apps are running in the background, thats why they call it a smartphone. Just auto greenify your user apps and disable all services you don't use in android settings. And don't use wakelock detectors, because it only makes you crazy seeing how much services are running in the background which is completely normal. You can auto hibernate user apps without root, only takes a little longer to hibernate.
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bablu048 said:
no, you don't even need to root... just go to settings--apps--show system and start disabling according to the guide whatever you don't need.
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You should go through the article once, clearly talks about custom recovery, running commands. There is no option to run command from stock recovery.
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You should go through the article once, clearly talks about custom recovery, running commands. There is no option to run command from stock recovery.
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That is for removing Google products totally... Go to the end of the article it has a list of products which you can disable without causing any problems.
Have successfully removed all the google apps. Only issue is Ola cabs app doesnt work without play services and still looking for a proper standalone YouTube app. Plus contacts synchronisation app if available.. Rest I have replaced allmost all.
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Hi all,
I have a question regarding the new app permission management in Marshmallow 6.0.1. In Lollipop (5.1.1) we used to have the option to prevent an app from waking up the device or keeping it awake. I used to uncheck that box for Google Play services as this was constantly running and eating up my battery. When I go through the new extended Marshmallow app management, I get several options that i can allow or deny (body sensors, calendars, camera, contacts, location, etc. see attached screenshot). But nowhere can I find the option to prevent the app/service from waking up or keeping the device awake.
Anyone know where I can find this or how to do this in Marshmallow?
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Hi all,
I have a question regarding the new app permission management in Marshmallow 6.0.1. In Lollipop (5.1.1) we used to have the option to prevent an app from waking up the device or keeping it awake. I used to uncheck that box for Google Play services as this was constantly running and eating up my battery. When I go through the new extended Marshmallow app management, I get several options that i can allow or deny (body sensors, calendars, camera, contacts, location, etc. see attached screenshot). But nowhere can I find the option to prevent the app/service from waking up or keeping the device awake.
Anyone know where I can find this or how to do this in Marshmallow?
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Use latest package disabler for preventing apps to awake the phone or updated through Google play
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Use latest package disabler for preventing apps to awake the phone or updated through Google play
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Is that the only way for now?
That's the appropriate way I know
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That's the appropriate way I know
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What I can find in the Play Store is Package Disabler Pro (Samsung). From the description and the screenshots I see you can enable/disable apps/services. I can do that already with Titanium Backup. But I can't disable the Google Play services, I just want to keep them from waking up the device, or keeping it awake while screen is off.
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What I can find in the Play Store is Package Disabler Pro (Samsung). From the description and the screenshots I see you can enable/disable apps/services. I can do that already with Titanium Backup. But I can't disable the Google Play services, I just want to keep them from waking up the device, or keeping it awake while screen is off.
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Yes but with Package Disabler Pro for Samsung you can do things, that you can't with TTB, in one word it's more powerful
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Yes but with Package Disabler Pro for Samsung you can do things, that you can't with TTB, in one word it's more powerful
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TB does what it needs to do for me, as I'm not looking for anything beyond what it can do. Just freeze apps/services I don't use and every once in a while a backup. I just need something good that can prevent an app from waking up device, just like the basic functionality we had in Lollipop in the app management section.
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Yes but with Package Disabler Pro for Samsung you can do things, that you can't with TTB, in one word it's more powerful
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You're completely missing his point. He doesn't want to disable google play services, he wants to prevent it from waking up the phone.
Package Disabler Pro is more powerful than TB? I hope you're trolling.
OneTruth said:
TB does what it needs to do for me, as I'm not looking for anything beyond what it can do. Just freeze apps/services I don't use and every once in a while a backup. I just need something good that can prevent an app from waking up device, just like the basic functionality we had in Lollipop in the app management section.
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As far as I can tell, the doze feature is supposed to be in charge of preventing wakelocks and keep your phone from staying awake. So Google probably thought that denying the stay awake permission isn't needed anymore. Tbh, it denying 'stay awake' in app permissions in previous builds on android didn't do much for battery life, at least for me. Some things you could try is cleaning google play services data, and deleting google now if you dont use it.
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You're completely missing his point. He doesn't want to disable google play services, he wants to prevent it from waking up the phone.
Package Disabler Pro is more powerful than TB? I hope you're trolling.
As far as I can tell, the doze feature is supposed to be in charge of preventing wakelocks and keep your phone from staying awake. So Google probably thought that denying the stay awake permission isn't needed anymore. Tbh, it denying 'stay awake' in app permissions in previous builds on android didn't do much for battery life, at least for me. Some things you could try is cleaning google play services data, and deleting google now if you dont use it.
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You did not understand me either! What I've said is that Package Disabler Pro not only can prevent app from waking up the phone, but can prevent such app from updated by Google play service.
I also maintain that Package Disabler Pro is more powerful than TTB in terms of preventing an app from doing anything even operating in the background.
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@Bhavpreet I think for me it did quite the thing. Before I disabled apps/services I didn't need I saw Google Play Services popping up in the battery stats a lot. Once I hit the switch and didn't allow the service to wake up the phone or keep it awake, it disappeared from the battery stats.
Currently, from what I can see in the battery stats, the play service is running 4 things:
- Google Service Framework
- Google Play Services
- Google Backup Transport
- Google Account Manager
I have the backup to cloud enabled for contacts/notes/etc. Which one of the above is safe to freeze without interfering in that process?
@zizon65 Are you talking about freezing/disabling an app? Or only stopping it from waking up the device, but leaving the service/app intact for when you manually open it?
@OneTruth it could be achieved by using xposed for the module appopsxposed though I only tested it under cm13 on another phone
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You did not understand me either! What I've said is that Package Disabler Pro not only can prevent app from waking up the phone, but can prevent such app from updated by Google play service.
I also maintain that Package Disabler Pro is more powerful than TTB in terms of preventing an app from doing anything even operating in the background.
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He does not want to disable it, he just wants to stop it from waking the device. Disabling google play services effectively transforms your device into a dumb phone, whats the point?
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@Bhavpreet I think for me it did quite the thing. Before I disabled apps/services I didn't need I saw Google Play Services popping up in the battery stats a lot. Once I hit the switch and didn't allow the service to wake up the phone or keep it awake, it disappeared from the battery stats.
Currently, from what I can see in the battery stats, the play service is running 4 things:
- Google Service Framework
- Google Play Services
- Google Backup Transport
- Google Account Manager
I have the backup to cloud enabled for contacts/notes/etc. Which one of the above is safe to freeze without interfering in that process?
@zizon65 Are you talking about freezing/disabling an app? Or only stopping it from waking up the device, but leaving the service/app intact for when you manually open it?
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You wont be able to remove any of those 4 services without breaking google play services as a whole afaik. I don't even use google for my backup account, but i still have backup transport eating at my battery. Google Services, on average, uses 1-4% of my battery, usually on the lower end. Like I said, clear its data and cache, give it a restart, and see if that helps. I also recommend turning off auto update in the playstore, and deleting google now data and app and reinstalling it.
Last option, and this will definitely work considering you upgraded, factory reset the device.
Also, PDP disables apps, meaning it completely gets rid of them from your device until theyre enabled again, which is not a solution to your problem.
@Bhavpreet How com this was possible in Lollipop without breaking anything? Everything was running perfectly for me, without Google Play Services ever showing up in the battery stats. So I won't be factory resetting. Clearing cache already did that, no result. Will try out @Zenroid solution.
I think this is doing the trick. Will post back with results after the next full charge.
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@OneTruth it could be achieved by using xposed for the module appopsxposed though I only tested it under cm13 on another phone
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Hi
my P8 automatically kills apps that are running for longer than one hour. For example if I use Google Maps Navigation, or Runkeeper to track my runs.
In settings i have 'Performance' selected in the Power Savings Menu, I added Google Maps, Runkeeper, etc. to the protected apps and i don't have any third party app for battery saving, task killing or something like that. I also locked the app in the app switcher by swiping down on it, so that the lock icon appears.
Nevertheless after running for just over an hour this morning, Runkeeper was killed anyway.
Does anybody have the same problem and knows a solution?
Thanks
anarki
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my P8 automatically kills apps that are running for longer than one hour. For example if I use Google Maps Navigation, or Runkeeper to track my runs.
In settings i have 'Performance' selected in the Power Savings Menu, I added Google Maps, Runkeeper, etc. to the protected apps and i don't have any third party app for battery saving, task killing or something like that. I also locked the app in the app switcher by swiping down on it, so that the lock icon appears.
Nevertheless after running for just over an hour this morning, Runkeeper was killed anyway.
Does anybody have the same problem and knows a solution?
Thanks
anarki
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Hi, try Settings>serach: optimalization (ignore app optimalisation or something like that) and select what apps you dont want to be killed, maybe it helps
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Does anybody have the same problem and knows a solution?
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There is no solution. every phone with EMUI works like that. It's intentional to save battery (that's what they say). I heard they fixed it in EMUI 5 (which is closer to stock Android) but P8 is not going to get it. If you really need those apps you have no choice - change your phone.
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There is no solution. every phone with EMUI works like that. It's intentional to save battery (that's what they say). I heard they fixed it in EMUI 5 (which is closer to stock Android) but P8 is not going to get it. If you really need those apps you have no choice - change your phone.
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no true, if you need some app to work in deep sleep, you just have to allow it in manager and disable its optimalization, then it wont be killed
there is an option in settings..called protected apps on or off
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no true, if you need some app to work in deep sleep, you just have to allow it in manager and disable its optimalization, then it wont be killed
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It will be killed but after a slightly longer period of time. No app will last more than 3 hours in the memory. That's how EMUI works.
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It will be killed but after a slightly longer period of time. No app will last more than 3 hours in the memory. That's how EMUI works.
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what version of rom are you using? i have Gratitude V5, gmail works during all night, no problem what so ever, messenger works too even if i selected it to be killed and optimized by system, only thing you have to do is to convert it to system app
Stock B382. It's better than on B200 - before it was killing all apps instantly when the screen was off.
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It will be killed but after a slightly longer period of time. No app will last more than 3 hours in the memory. That's how EMUI works.
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That's not true, I have a number of apps that run in the background and don't get killed. Tasker, Light Flow, Doggcatcher, Gmail, K9mail...
I'm on latest Gratitude and was in the Fromfuture ROMs before.
So it looks like there are many people having issues with the battery optimization feature, which lets me guess oneplus is already aware of the problem. My question is if there is a way to disable the optimization completely for now until oneplus has sorted things out.
Since the last update it is so aggressive, it kills youtube's connection to my chromecast every few minutes, rendering all control features unuseable as I always have to reconnect before I can do anything. This also makes my wearOS watch unuseable as it also depends on the phone keeping the connections alive.
You can turn off Optimization for YouTube and WearOS
Settings > Apps & Notifications > Special app access
You can turn off optimization for any app, and see the advanced in the 3 dot menu. I had the same problem with my watch, turned off the watch app and helper, now works great. I also turned off messenger, no problems now.
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I also would like to know if this is possible in an easy way. I don't want to disable it for 256 apps independently.
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You can turn off Optimization for YouTube and WearOS
Settings > Apps & Notifications > Special app access
You can turn off optimization for any app, and see the advanced in the 3 dot menu. I had the same problem with my watch, turned off the watch app and helper, now works great. I also turned off messenger, no problems now.
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Thanks for the reply!
That setting was the first thing I checked and already disabled optimization for the wearOS and cast apps which work fine now. Unfortunately it won't let me disable it for the youtube app as it handles that one as a system app. As long as youtube is not allowed in the background wearOS has nothing to communicate with so I still can't control it.
That's why my next thought was if I can't disable it for system apps maybe there is a way to completely disable it until oneplus has the problem solved. I know that solution would suck but at the moment I am forced to use another phone to use youtube properly which sucks even more imo.
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Thanks for the reply!
That setting was the first thing I checked and already disabled optimization for the wearOS and cast apps which work fine now. Unfortunately it won't let me disable it for the youtube app as it handles that one as a system app. As long as youtube is not allowed in the background wearOS has nothing to communicate with so I still can't control it.
That's why my next thought was if I can't disable it for system apps maybe there is a way to completely disable it until oneplus has the problem solved. I know that solution would suck but at the moment I am forced to use another phone to use youtube properly which sucks even more imo.
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I wonder if the system mover app works on Pie and YouTube? I didn't realize YouTube was a system app since it's from the play store.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.systemappmover
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I wonder if the system mover app works on Pie and YouTube? I didn't realize YouTube was a system app since it's from the play store.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.systemappmover
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I would love to try this but I am unrooted. Youtube should be on the list but it is not, I am guessing that is because it comes preinstalled, the playstore app isn't there as well for example.
I know this is an old thread, but the more I use my new phone, the more I believe this to be the issue with my Gmail app constantly putting my Exchange accounts back to 30 minute fetch. And, I cannot disable battery optimization on Gmail because it's a system app (and I do not want to root). For now, every other day, I have to tell the device that it really is OK for Gmail to remain constantly connected to my Exchange account, that I actually prefer it to be. I've made it to 54 hours with my normal use (OVER 7 HRS S.O.T), not trying to stretch it at all, no battery saving features on whatsoever. So it's safe to say I can afford for Gmail to stay connected with Exchange. The optimization is a bit too aggressive for not allowing system apps to be excluded.
I've also had issues with Google Assistant not reminding me about reminders that are clearly in the list of her reminders, and I think this to be the culprit as well, and again, can't disable it because it's not on the list.
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I know this is an old thread, but the more I use my new phone, the more I believe this to be the issue with my Gmail app constantly putting my Exchange accounts back to 30 minute fetch. And, I cannot disable battery optimization on Gmail because it's a system app (and I do not want to root). For now, every other day, I have to tell the device that it really is OK for Gmail to remain constantly connected to my Exchange account, that I actually prefer it to be. I've made it to 54 hours with my normal use (OVER 7 HRS S.O.T), not trying to stretch it at all, no battery saving features on whatsoever. So it's safe to say I can afford for Gmail to stay connected with Exchange. The optimization is a bit too aggressive for not allowing system apps to be excluded.
I've also had issues with Google Assistant not reminding me about reminders that are clearly in the list of her reminders, and I think this to be the culprit as well, and again, can't disable it because it's not on the list.
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Having exactly same problems with gmail and chrome (html5 push notifications). I am rooted. So I am considering to mark those apps as non system apps, but still not sure if this won't brake future updates or something.
Is anyone else having problems with Gmail (which comes pre-installed as a system app on the Mi 9T) not showing notifications until the phone is "awoken"?
I have accessed developer options, turned off miui optimization, I started Gmail and locked it to recents tab, I turn off battery optimization for Gmail & I manually turned on notifications. I can't autostart the Gmail app as it is a system app and apparently it automatically autostarts. But notifications still will not come through until I "wake" the phone by using it for something else.
I don't have issues with other "push" apps like WhatsApp - only Gmail.
Do others have the same issue? Can anyone recommend a fix?
Me too...
But it's not very often and sometimes affects other apps like WhatsApp etc as well.
Any fix to this?
Its a power saver issue. I think it's with all apps. If an app is awake you get notifications if you close it you get notifications for a while then its put to sleep. I noticed it with Instagram DMs and even though I set Instagram to be (no power restrictions) it still gets put to sleep! this is a really annoying issue! What's a "mobile" phone without instant notifications??
Same here. Gmail notifications are delayed for 2-20 minutes, but when I turn screen on (even without unlocking) notification shows immediately. Do you find any fix?
Just delete it as a system app through Xiaomi ADB/Fastboot tool and install the google play store version. In this way you can set off the power saving miui management
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Just delete it as a system app through Xiaomi ADB/Fastboot tool and install the google play store version. In this way you can set off the power saving miui management
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Already done, no effect.
My pixel didn't send a gmail notification until after turning the screen on too, it's probably not a device issue at least.
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Just delete it as a system app through Xiaomi ADB/Fastboot tool and install the google play store version. In this way you can set off the power saving miui management
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Off topic. For some other reason, I tried uninstalling Google photos via Fastboot tool and when I try to install from play store, it just gets enabled in a second; which means ultimately it didn't delete the system package; just hidden it.
Anybody came across the same issue?
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Anybody came across the same issue?
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Yes, I uninstalled GMail and install it from Google Play - installation was finished in second.
Set Gmail to auto start and make sure it has no battery savings mode applied to it
Gmail is a system app and there are no options to set it to start automatically or change battery restriction.
Removing it via abd does not work.
Btw is this a MIUI issue due to battery "optimization" or android in general?