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Thoughts about JB on PT-3113

So what are your thoughts about JB. So far i havent played with it alot and it seems a bit snappier but not alot though

I think its ok bit dont like the notification bar. The phone look doesnt soot the tab prefer the layout of ics. Performancenis very good though no lag
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improved wi-fi
I'm not sure, but I think the wi-fi reception has improved.

screen rotation
I disable the screen rotation but the lock screen still rotates
Does anyone meet the same problem?

I personally don't see much difference in performance. With the status bar moving to the top and performance about the same,I'd have to score it a -1 or a 0 at best.

i never saw any performance issue with ICS so i don't see any improvement in JB. I do love the google now / voice search stuff though.

I think some of you need to check you're TAB's.. I, like some here, have been running stock ICS (P-3113) & updated the other day (after the long wait for the official Jelly Bean update) & I noticed quiet a bump in performance. One thing that might have helped me was the fact that I did a Wipe/Factory Data Reset before I updated. I also didn't do a restore from backup, I actually reinstalled everything fresh & everything is running great so far! One thing that helps it feel faster is the fact that everything is so much smoother & jitter free now, I also notice apps open a lot quicker now.. no more little pause after touching an icon.
.:Things I like:.
Performance: The tab seems much "snappier" now.
Project Butter: The "stutter" is gone.. everything IS Buttery Smooth now!
Battery: Run time seems to have improved a little bit.. I was getting two days of light use on ICS, with JB I'm now on the third day at 44%.
Phablet UI actually isn't to bad, I thought I was going to have to use the tab in portrait mode all the time.. nope, put in landscape, disable screen rotation, done.
.:Things I don't like:.
I could do without the "shortcuts"? row on the right side in landscape mode.. Phablet UI.
I wish they would have left the soft buttons at the bottom where they were.. although, I am starting to get used to their new location now.
Notification bar at the top, really.. OKAY!?
Q: Is the root method the same as it was for ICS or has something changed.. if so, point me to the post w/the new method please. Thanks.
The TAB 2 now feels like a useful device I look forward to using every day. AWESOME.
Later, Phil B.

I'll agree with the post above. I first upgraded via kies and really didn't notice any performance improvement. But after a full wipe and reinstallation with Odin I see a marked improvement in performance. The whole UI is much "snappier" and the performance of demanding apps like NFS Most Wanted is also noticeably improved!
For those like me who hate the "phablet" look I posted a method here that will pretty much get you back to what you are used to.:good:
Oh and CF-Auto-Root still works for me!

MM2222 said:
I disable the screen rotation but the lock screen still rotates
Does anyone meet the same problem?
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I have that same problem.

MM2222 said:
I disable the screen rotation but the lock screen still rotates
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yes, I have the same problem on my galaxy tab 2 7.0 but this is not really a problem. I have larger problems after the update to JB today:
1- I can't connect my galaxy tab 2 7.0 to PC, and I've installed the Kies but no help.
2- I hadn't have much free internal memory on Ice Cream Sandwich, but it used to work properly without any app to stop responding. But JB uses much more internal memory and this made the device very slow and it stopped working frequently (apps and even touch-wiz stops working) and I had to restart it every 2-3 minutes (even the keyboard on lock screen didn't appear to enter my password). So I had to uninstall lots of apps to free the storage and now I have 487 MB free, It had improved a lot but it's still slower than the past (with Ice Cream Sandwich). the apps starts slowly and sometimes they stop working and I have to restart the device.
here are my questions:
1- 478MB free internal storage is not enough for the JB? you have more free memory on your devices?
2- I've read that some have reset the device then update it and then reinstall everything, do you think this will help?
3- what about the problem of not connecting to PC? anybody has the same problem?
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P.S. I've just master rest my device and install all my apps again and it worked, the problems are solved and JB looks good.

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I'm not sure, but I think the wi-fi reception has improved.
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I would agree with that also. I was at the Gym yesterday morning when i updated my tablet .i get a wifi signal from the restaurant next door the signal was always weak when running on ICS but after i updated it to JB the connection seemed to be better The device seems to be snappier but i think im going to do a factory reset anyway and see what difference it makes.

Way better. I like the new layout as it unifies the Android experience. Faster and snappier. Was going to sell it soon if the Note 7 comes out but I may keep it. Via OTA. Battery seems longer too. Like the status bar percentage. Like the Video Player pop out to multi task. It's just great IMHO.
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Dont like the fact that swiping between pages in menu is sort of slow!! Not laggy just slow
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Without Allshare cast, the upgrade was not worth much to me.

I like it, using cryogen would love to get the peel app back, runs smoother and faster. New to android but have been a long time fan.
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Post lag videos?

Whoever can show their lag on the clip. This would help me and others. I'm now curious since I've been on my Nexus 4 with 4.2.2 for a while now that I'm so used to lag that I dont even notice it.

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Whoever can show their lag on the clip. This would help me and others. I'm now curious since I've been on my Nexus 4 with 4.2.2 for a while now that I'm so used to lag that I dont even notice it.
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Here is mine. The lag is not bad, but pretty much everywhere. Obviously an issue with 4.2.2. I don't know. When it doesn't lag the phone is super smooth. I hope they fix this soon.
Samsung obviously didn't optimize their software to run properly on 4.2.2. Makes me miss how fluid the UI was on the Note 2.
Not the best quality, but still good enough to see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPiHs2yacs8&feature=youtu.be

Why would you clear your ram...
With 2 gb theres no need to. Plus its fluid when you leave it alone. Thats like using a task manager from the play store.

j510 said:
Why would you clear your ram...
With 2 gb theres no need to. Plus its fluid when you leave it alone. Thats like using a task manager from the play store.
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For tests like this, it's best to clear ram so you're starting with an empty plate. Just like if you were benchmarking, running browser speed tests, etc.
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I dont see a whole lot of lag in that video.

I wouldn't say it looks laggy. It's more sluggish. But its pretty minor.
It's not as fluid as I want it to be. I might get annoyed.
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I heard if you turn off all those gimikey features. IE eye detections ect. it should fix the lag a bit.

Since that video I've performed a factory reset. Gonna do another video soon.
new video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHZ8cTxXrqM&feature=youtu.be

MattMJB0188 said:
Since that video I've performed a factory reset. Gonna do another video soon.
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Can you do one after the reset. And another one with ALL the gimick features off? Thanks.

Noticed exactly the same on my mates gs3 - it was unusable, up to 3 seconds till home launcher and frequent redraws.
Samsung completely kills androids performance, and for that price and hardware its a shame.
Thats why many people prefer apple - my iPod Touch with 200 apps still runned better than my mates gs3 for almost the double price with 50 apps. Android is getting very, very slow after some use. Calls, sms, apps, after every month you'll loose lets say 10% of performance, related to how you use your phone, more performance loss in the beginning, less after some use.
And touchwiz makes everything sloooww :/
You only notice, when you install 300 apps on iPhone and gs4. Gs4 will lag, I can gurantee.
Especially 4.2.2 was a kind of downgrade, lots things are "tasty" things, you may like or not.
IF Google could bring beak Gingerbreads performance and ram managment + project butter and some new features on android 5.0, I would marry them

I just did this video about 10 minutes ago and would like to get some input on it. I will try to do when in more depth video when I have time.

MattMJB0188 said:
I just did this video about 10 minutes ago and would like to get some input on it. I will try to do when in more depth video when I have time.
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on your second video i notice the sluggishness start around 55 seconds.
What settings did you turn on? S beam, NFC, Air Gesture... ETC ???
Is your Model made in China or Korea?

hyghonryce said:
on your second video i notice the sluggishness start around 55 seconds.
What settings did you turn on? S beam, NFC, Air Gesture... ETC ???
Is your Model made in China or Korea?
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All of those were off and my model was made in Korea.

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All of those were off and my model was made in Korea.
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Well based on the polls. They said the korean one has lag but it's minimal. and it appears to be quite minimal on your phone. so it's "normal".

Performance update on it's way!

http://androidandme.com/2015/07/new...-3-getting-performance-update-in-coming-days/

Nice. Hope it's a new update and not the one that some people have gotten.
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Sweet!!! Thanks for the news. I wonder what updates will be made to the camera.

Giu didn't mention a source or anything. Just "that we received word" so I am still a little cynical at this point.
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2nd story about update
More info:
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=16092
http://www.talkandroid.com/255569-alcatel-onetouch-idol-3-update-rolling-out-over-the-next-few-days/
Multiple sources makes it seem more legit to me.

this is great news well its not what we expected to be 5.1 update but its something im glad alcatel has actually listened to us especially through that Email that was sent last month hopefully in mind they should release the source code soon or someone to capture the OTA and extract it

gecko702 said:
this is great news well its not what we expected to be 5.1 update but its something im glad alcatel has actually listened to us especially through that Email that was sent last month hopefully in mind they should release the source code soon or someone to capture the OTA and extract it
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As mentioned in the root or update thread, the OTA updates contain only patches to the binary code and not full source. It'll have to come from Alcatel.

well they sure are taking their sweet time pushing it out, its not hitting mine yet.
how many possible users could they be going out to afterall? its not like this phone went mainstream...

mk3 said:
well they sure are taking their sweet time pushing it out, its not hitting mine yet.
how many possible users could they be going out to afterall? its not like this phone went mainstream...
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It's slowly making its way mainstream. It should release this week. I hope it's not one of those updates that break something when trying to do good.

Already had the update last week and the performance is much better now!

Looks like an update is rolling out right now, dated today the 13th....still 5.0.2 unfortunately

Yup - installing right now. Still 5.0.2 ..

Installing right now

After the update try to clear all all opening apps, you will mention that it's without any lag or stutter

usmcnyc said:
Looks like an update is rolling out right now, dated today the 13th....still 5.0.2 unfortunately
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Yup - installing right now. Still 5.0.2 ..
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Borghi said:
Installing right now
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what version of firmware? 5.0.2-01003?
Thk!!

DonnieDoezoe said:
After the update try to clear all all opening apps, you will mention that it's without any lag or stutter
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I am not sure if it is just me - but at least this part is NOT fixed. clearing open apps still has the same stutter that it had before. I restored the animation scale back to 1x and that has not changed anything. Maybe that is how it is supposed to be.
The app launching appears to have improved *slightly* . Whether double tap is more reliable remains to be seen. The update did not reset my launcher setting i.e. it did not revert to the stock launcher .
Overall - so far , I am not seeing anything worth getting too excited about - Not so far at least.
BTW - just to confirm - I now have Android version = 5.0.2 Kernel version = 3.10.49 Build number = 7SQR-UER0

stl1859 said:
I am not sure if it is just me - but at least this part is NOT fixed. clearing open apps still has the same stutter that it had before. I restored the animation scale back to 1x and that has not changed anything. Maybe that is how it is supposed to be.
The app launching appears to have improved *slightly* . Whether double tap is more reliable remains to be seen. The update did not reset my launcher setting i.e. it did not revert to the stock launcher .
Overall - so far , I am not seeing anything worth getting too excited about - Not so far at least.
BTW - just to confirm - I now have Android version = 5.0.2 Kernel version = 3.10.49 Build number = 7SQR-UER0
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Same here, not too much difference noted with this update. Anyone know if Alcatel includes a changelog someplace with these updates?

I feel differently. This update, so far, is great. The lag I had previously is nearly gone and installing apps is much much faster. DTTW has worked everytime (only tried about 7-8 times so far) unlike previously when it hardly ever worked. I don't notice anything different on the camera but I've only played with it for a short period. I've not used this phone as a daily driver since I got it in May because of the user experience, it just lagged and I hate lag - especially compared to my LG G2. Today however, I put my sim card in and will give it a true test, being the daily driver.
I was going to return it initially but held onto it waiting for an update and glad I did. I simply couldn't understand why this phone was not at least as fast (or faster) than my LG G Pro Or HTC One M7 since both of them are running the Snapdragon 600 (vs 615) and slower GPU. Plus both are also running pretty heavy skins yet both were way faster/smoother than the Idol 3. It had to be software and optimization which seems to be what this update addresses. The screen and speakers on this phone are to die for and I'm glad it's now able to be used effectively. I may think differently in a day or so after a real world test but for now I'm excited about this little guy.

I just got the update this morning, and my initial reaction is pretty good. The phone just feels snappier overall. The notification shade seems to come down very smooth all the time now. Previously, when the keyboard was open, the notification shade would drop a lot of frames when you pulled it down. The camera seems to be doing a better job of getting the correct point of focus too. Also, double tap to wake actually works now! This is huge for me because it only worked about once out of ten tries for me before. I'm happy.
Edit: I'm also seeing about 1.5GB of extra free storage. I wonder if the phone wasn't properly moving apps to the sd card before. I have about 12 games installed, and I have them all moved to the sd card.
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Looks like you guys had the update we got last week in europe. It runs much better , cleaning apps doesn't lag anymore and everything runs smoother.
For the people still having problems can you confirm you're in 5.0.2-010 03 ?

Is your OPT feeling pretty slow?

Hey all,
I bought a One Plus 2 yesterday (coming from the Galaxy S6) and immediately noticed how unbearably laggy the Oxygen OS was - am I the only one experiencing this? I get a few moments of fluid animations but then things just get choppy, especially compared to the Galaxy S6. I've since put the Chinese Hydrogen version on and it seems a lot more fluid but I just feel like it should be a lot faster? I've been considering just selling it on but this phone is perfect in nearly every other regard.
I was thinking that maybe this is just how things will be until some decent updates come along? Unless I'm the only person experiencing the choppiness.. Then I suppose I should be pretty worried indeed. As a point of reference, I've also used the Moto X 2014 and Z3 Compact which both seemed considerably smoother in operation. Some input from you guys would be great, along with any tips you might have to get the most out of this amazing phone.
Thanks.

Lol coming from an s6 you think its laggy? I switched from an s6 and compared to that this is the fastest phone I've ever had
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Yes it is laggy as oxygen is still on beta, but you should wait and give time as it is a beast, give some time to one plus and they will fix the issues

You did update it right? The build it comes with is as dog**** as the home button is

Just update to 2.0.2 and u'll be fine.
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Yup.. It usually lags when you switch to airplane mode.
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Phone is brand new. OxygenOS is in beta.. Let some development happen man, these specs dont lie

I updated and just got mine! Excited but it is slow. Some things up

Seems fast to me. I showed the OPT to my coworker who has an S6 Edge and he was impressed. He said it was faster than his S6. I didn't even ask him that.

Lol you obviously didn't use the fingerprint sensor to turn it on then or try to go to the home screen pressing the sensor home button. Jk

I've had several phones with fingerprint scanners and this one is by far the fastest so far and the phone is quick. Home button works great also. Maybe I just got lucky.

Yeah mine's pretty slow. I went into a phone store today and tried out the Huawei Mate 7, which on paper looks way behind the Oneplus 2, and it KILLED my OPT when opening apps.
I often get lag here and there, but this is less of a problem for me. My mane gripe is how long it takes to open an app. Like, I hit the Phone icon and it literally takes up to a second to launch. That Mate 7 was practically instant.
What gives, Oneplus?

A lot of the issues I initially had with oxygen were fixed after disabling hardware buttons, including excessive battery drain, heating up, and lag similar to what you're seeing. Maybe it has something to do with grounding? Or maybe I just got used to it :S

This phone is just not meant to be a daily driver with the frustration it brings. If you want to be less mad install cm 12.1. Makes things much better than oxygen

Try flashing OxygenOS 2.0.2 again and then factory reset. You may see a bump in speed. I personally have no quirks with the fluidity of the phone. While it does have some bugs all over the place, never once did the phone feel sluggish. But with that said, the OS does need a lot more polish to really make it feel truly complete. Right now despite all the OTAs OxygenOS still feels incomplete, or maybe its because I'm too used to the versatility of a CM based ROM.

It's slow for about a minute after boot but then things are really fast

Jazza2246 said:
Hey all,
I bought a One Plus 2 yesterday (coming from the Galaxy S6) and immediately noticed how unbearably laggy the Oxygen OS was - am I the only one experiencing this? I get a few moments of fluid animations but then things just get choppy, especially compared to the Galaxy S6. I've since put the Chinese Hydrogen version on and it seems a lot more fluid but I just feel like it should be a lot faster? I've been considering just selling it on but this phone is perfect in nearly every other regard.
I was thinking that maybe this is just how things will be until some decent updates come along? Unless I'm the only person experiencing the choppiness.. Then I suppose I should be pretty worried indeed. As a point of reference, I've also used the Moto X 2014 and Z3 Compact which both seemed considerably smoother in operation. Some input from you guys would be great, along with any tips you might have to get the most out of this amazing phone.
Thanks.
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Actually, the problem is because 2 google apps are using your CPU way too much. Disable the sheets and the slides apps in settings and you should be fine. CPU usage dropped by 40% in cpu-z after disabling these apps.
Update:- actually the CPU now has really less usage after disabling (5% after disabling.).

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Actually, the problem is because 2 google apps are using your CPU way too much. Disable the sheets and the slides apps in settings and you should be fine. CPU usage dropped by 40% in cpu-z after disabling these apps.
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That's something new.. I anyway just remove these apps from my /system..
Im on OOS 2.1.2 rooted.. Having xposed and AK kernel.. No lags.. Super fluid..

For those complaining about the slow app launching, download a 3rd party launcher and you'll see instantly the difference in app launching. I prefer google now launcher to maintain that stock feel.

Mehul.S said:
That's something new.. I anyway just remove these apps from my /system..
Im on OOS 2.1.2 rooted.. Having xposed and AK kernel.. No lags.. Super fluid..
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You see, I saw some lag and I went to developer options>show CPU usage and the most of the CPU usage came from the sheets and slides apps.

S8 is much slower than the Google Pixel?

Hi all,
Just switched to the s8 from a google pixel.
Beautiful phone, but if is noticeably slower, in many ways:
1. Poor screen responsiveness of the keyboard. Typing on SwiftKey is slower on the s8 than the pixel. It seems that take a split second longer to recognise the touch.
2. Scrolling stuttering. The pixel's scrolling is buttery smooth. The s8 seems to be seriously slopping frames for something as simple as scrolling a page of text on chrome!
3. App switcher. It's really very jelly compared to the buttery smooth Pixel.
Anyone else experienced these issues, and /or have any thoughts?

I had moments yesterday where my S8 had skipped or stuttered, but it's been perfect today.

No issues here, and I'm no samsung fan boy. I've got iPhone 7 plus, zte axon 7, lg v20, and I've owned nexus devices. But with My track record with samsung I'd know for sure in 2 weeks lol. Happy so far
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Has been butter smooth for me and I have not noticed any lag on the keyboard or in any screen. Not sure why you are experiencing such poor performance.

Pixel is bare bones and Samsung is full of features and customization (some useful and others a waste). Samsung is know for bloatware which slows the phone down, but my S8 is fluid.

I noticed the same thing
I noticed a delay with my s8 compared to the pixel xl when I happened to switch between apps on both. To test it out I opened up the same two apps and double tapped the toggle window button. The s8 is slower and not as smooth. There may be an animation speed setting that makes it faster but still seems like it wouldn't be as smooth.
Typing this in noticing swift key going slower too.
My battery is at 15% so maybe something is optimizing it and slowing it down...

Started having problems again. Ironically, similar to the problems that caused me to switch from the S4 to the S8 and to what the OP mentions.. Freezing of apps and high battery draw. Stuttering and slow to switch apps and unlock. Problems with keyboard not recording keystrokes. Then it goes b as back to being perfect again.
There is an update ready, but I'm having flashbacks to the update that locked the S4 down. I know this phone is already locked down more than the S4 ever was, but still...

No problems here. It's really fast. Faster than my old S6 Edge.

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No issues here, and I'm no samsung fan boy. I've got iPhone 7 plus, zte axon 7, lg v20, and I've owned nexus devices. But with My track record with samsung I'd know for sure in 2 weeks lol. Happy so far
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Yes to my surprise this sammy built phone hasn't lagged yet but it's too early to tell

I always disable window animation in developer tools. Make it way better for me. I don't like window animation.

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Yes to my surprise this sammy built phone hasn't lagged yet but it's too early to tell
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Yep another week and a half we'll know, hoping it doesn't. But if it's going to I hope its before my return window. I think samsung finally made a good speedy phone.
To anyone wanting to help speed it up and block updates until there sure it's a good update. I disabled updates in developer settings, and set animations to .5x.
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vw65bus said:
Yep another week and a half we'll know, hoping it doesn't. But if it's going to I hope its before my return window. I think samsung finally made a good speedy phone.
To anyone wanting to help speed it up and block updates until there sure it's a good update. I disabled updates in developer settings, and set animations to .5x.
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Yeah I'm not updating cause remapping Bixby is the best for that button... now if we can remap that fingerprint scanner lol

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Yeah I'm not updating cause remapping Bixby is the best for that button... now if we can remap that fingerprint scanner lol
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Lol yep that would be awesome and funny. Ya I have my bixby button set to google now. Wish there wasnt a button there though.
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Mine is noticeably slower than my Nexus 6p even. Love the screen but touchwiz is a joke. Starting to regret my purchase.

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Lol yep that would be awesome and funny. Ya I have my bixby button set to google now. Wish there wasnt a button there though.
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I got a question is there a way to get rid of that ota update symbol on my status bar or do I download the update and just don't install?...i really wanna get rid of that symbol but don't wanna risk the update being accidentally installed

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I got a question is there a way to get rid of that ota update symbol on my status bar or do I download the update and just don't install?...i really wanna get rid of that symbol but don't wanna risk the update being accidentally installed
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Unfortunately, I don't know how to get rid of it. (Yet) I'm pretty sure once you set it up to stop updates it doesn't show up. But same with my case I didn't know the update was going to break bixby button so I stopped it when I found out. Now mine shows, and I've tried to get rid of it by blocking its notifications thru holding down on it and going to its settings. But it still shows up. I'm still working on a work around to get rid of it. Once I do I'll let you know.
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Unfortunately, I don't know how to get rid of it. (Yet) I'm pretty sure once you set it up to stop updates it doesn't show up. But same with my case I didn't know the update was going to break bixby button so I stopped it when I found out. Now mine shows, and I've tried to get rid of it by blocking its notifications thru holding down on it and going to its settings. But it still shows up. I'm still working on a work around to get rid of it. Once I do I'll let you know.
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I can't remember if we can just download it and then once it offers to install maybe we could ignore it but I forgot if that was the case for 7.0 update for s7e

I'm getting stuttery scrolling across various apps. Some are smooth though, and others more like a mid-range phone from a few years ago - not what you'd expect from a flagship device today.

I'm experiencing the stuttering apps. As mentioned in this thread, disabling window animations has helped with this experience.
This is my first android phone since the HTC one X.
Can we expect any custome ROMs? Or updates to improve performance?

Scottland said:
I'm getting stuttery scrolling across various apps. Some are smooth though, and others more like a mid-range phone from a few years ago - not what you'd expect from a flagship device today.
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Not all apps are created equal, some are smoother than others simply because they're written differently.