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All About KNOX (discussions,questions,new information etc.)

from mj2 rom release (leak,pre official) there is knox integrated in system and shows one counter in download mode like Official bit = 0
so i made this thread for our beloved note 2 's newer firmwares knox issues and informations.
you can also contribute to help people of note 2 community worldwide and solving this issue.
hope i can update this thread as soon as i can.
and all the info for knox for now can be found in below sites.
Wiki knox
Reasearch thread from s4 forum
Samsung.com
all about knox from samsung
samsungknox.com
and i know theres knox research thread for s4 but i think its reasonable to have for note 2 too bcoz its very diff device and here local help can be available other then asking on s4's thread.

As far as I know there is a specific chip on the motherboard where knox increments the flashing.
1st of all since this is a "feature" that came with the note 3, I think we are kind of safe since that specific cip was not integrated on the mb. I'm not sure that even the s4 has one.
Non the less the counter some how could be emulated in the bootloader and thus tricking us in thinking that knox is emplemented.
Some more experienced people sooner or later will figure it up.
My advice is that if you still have warranty think twice before flashing.
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Pezmet said:
As far as I know there is a specific chip on the motherboard where knox increments the flashing.
1st of all since this is a "feature" that came with the note 3, I think we are kind of safe since that specific cip was not integrated on the mb. I'm not sure that even the s4 has one.
Non the less the counter some how could be emulated in the bootloader and thus tricking us in thinking that knox is emplemented.
Some more experienced people sooner or later will figure it up.
My advice is that if you still have warranty think twice before flashing.
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u are right to wait.
but knox is integrated in all kernels, framework and bootloaders. so it may rise a flag as in s4 and note 3 roots,downgrading and etc.
they have this since one exact month and theres no way they can reset it and they got warranty voided.
and s4 doesnt have this kind of efuse chip on mb but still they have all flags i think.

Are you sure that our note2 has an efused inside?
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I am almost sure that it does not
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Javi55 said:
Are you sure that our note2 has an efused inside?
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i didnt say efuse is there neither have s4 as he said.

Pezmet said:
I am almost sure that it does not
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Me too mate.
Ragards from Spain!

I don't have any problems with KNOX. I mean almost.
I have done more than 3 factory resets since i'm using 4.3
The only problem i have with KNOX (i like it) is that after i install it
my Note start to tell me after update on some basic apps
"External StorageSpace left 1.55 MB".
Without KNOX i don't have this massage.

gencho81 said:
I don't have any problems with KNOX. I mean almost.
I have done more than 3 factory resets since i'm using 4.3
The only problem i have with KNOX (i like it) is that after i install it
my Note start to tell me after update on some basic apps
"External StorageSpace left 1.55 MB".
Without KNOX i don't have this massage.
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The current firmware mi6 doesn't have knox integrated, it is just an app but in the new pre official leak mj2 has knox integrated into the bootloader.. Which is hard to bypass as the firmware won't boot with any older bootloader thus there will be knox counter raise on flashing custom recovery or rooting the device.. I haven't still got into details myself but there should be a way of downgrading to older boot and firmware for claiming warranty.. And I guess the s4 community will probably get some work around as they are in deeper problems with official 4.3 has realese for them. It's just a matter of waiting and watching now.
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Custm rom & easy root it let us to choose Samsung device after knox ma b change our lovely brand to another , coz Samsung follow htc steps .
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Just curious if flashing the new MJ2 or the future official ROM from Samsung will reset my already raised counter?

phochiom said:
Just curious if flashing the new MJ2 or the future official ROM from Samsung will reset my already raised counter?
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Use triangle away or a jig to reset counter before you flash the new bootloader
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the new release MJ2 contains TEE (trusted execution environmen) by MobiCore !! in the ( tz.bin ) in BL provided here http://d-h.st/Bhz .
more info here :
http://www.sensepost.com/blog/9114.html
source code here :
https://code.google.com/p/tee-mobicore-driver/
i hope this may help DEV's/Modders to crack this ..

sumeshd said:
Use triangle away or a jig to reset counter before you flash the new bootloader
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Is the jig working on Note 2 ? Didn't know. I use to reset my S2 with it. Thanks

hey guys, are there any limitations in flashing after updating to FW containing Knox? I mean, i don't care if it sets knox flag to 1, i already don't have any warranty. I'm just asking because people everywhere are speaking only about warranty when it comes to Knox. But are there any other restrictions like missing possibility of downgrade, or unability of flashing custom ROMs?
Thanks.

From what I'm reading if you downgrade you can't then upgrade ever again to an official 4.3
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Wow that's pretty scary... Damn Samsung :/
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sawdoctor said:
From what I'm reading if you downgrade you can't then upgrade ever again to an official 4.3
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Is this true? I mean... who in their right mind would go official after being on xda for any reasonable amount of time?... but the possibility that such a restriction could be enforced on our device is deeply troubling.

Hard Reset & Root my Note 3 - Advice Please

Hello experts, :highfive:
I want to hard reset and root my Galaxy Note 3.
It is the N9005 model.
What is the best and safest way to do it and what you need to consider?
It is better to hard reset first and then root or otherwise.
Thank you very much for the tips.
Waiting for your replies :good:

Factory reset, then root. Makes no difference which order you do it. You don't even need to reset to root.
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Nomadzx said:
Hello experts, :highfive:
I want to hard reset and root my Galaxy Note 3.
It is the N9005 model.
What is the best and safest way to do it and what you need to consider?
It is better to hard reset first and then root or otherwise.
Thank you very much for the tips.
Waiting for your replies :good:
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You should first check with *#1234# your current versions for firmware, and if all are before MJ3 you can root with Universal Root De La Vega and you will still have knox 0x0 - read for more details the specific threads on that.

thank you so much for the answers, :good:
It's the first time I go to reset my phone, so I wonder to know the risks and what I have to take into account and whether it's worth rooting the device.
I have installed many useless apps and the hard reset I'll do it anyway, so, will the root serve me?
thank you!!!

Nomadzx said:
thank you so much for the answers, :good:
It's the first time I go to reset my phone, so I wonder to know the risks and what I have to take into account and whether it's worth rooting the device.
I have installed many useless apps and the hard reset I'll do it anyway, so, will the root serve me?
thank you!!!
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It depends on what you want to do when you root, do you need to root? if not, then don't. If so. Read more.

It's better to think about what do you need root to do before cracking your phone. For an average user, root is not necessary.
If you decide to do it, check CF-Autoroot in the note 3 original development forum. It's easier but make sure you understand everything in that post first.
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ouankou said:
It's better to think about what do you need root to do before cracking your phone. For an average user, root is not necessary.
If you decide to do it, check CF-Autoroot in the note 3 original development forum. It's easier but make sure you understand everything in that post first.
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Vielen Dank ouankou

Mate, if you need to ask if you need root then you don't need it...
Do yourself a favour and leave well enough alone....

ultramag69 said:
Mate, if you need to ask if you need root then you don't need it...
Do yourself a favour and leave well enough alone....
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Thats what im gonna do mate, thanks.

[Q] How to trick Samsung Co that I never rooted my Galaxy S4 GT19505??

Hi,
So I have this very much annoying problem which I have made a thread about it before and it's that I have always to choose either to use Touchwiz Home or Touchwiz easy home or knox, and even though I always choose Touchwiz home and make sure to check ALWAYS, it will come back asking me the same question when I hit home button.
The only solution to this problem was to reset the phone which helps, but the problem will appear again after few days or weeks.
I called Samsung Support and I spoke to a very nice person and I was told that the cause of this problem has to do with the kernel and some corrupted files there.
He said, my only solution is to change the motherboard, because if they put a new software, the problem will come back and the cost of the motherboard is 90% of the device value and since my phone was rooted before, I will have to pay the full price.
I told the guy that in status it shows now original and not custom, is there is a way that they can find out that my phone was once rooted before? He said yes, they will find it out because there is something that will show them history of the phone, something like that.
My question is, how can I clean up those files, how can I trick Samsung into thinking that my phone was never rooted before.
Thanks a lot guys in advance

clouds73 said:
Hi,
So I have this very much annoying problem which I have made a thread about it before and it's that I have always to choose either to use Touchwiz Home or Touchwiz easy home or knox, and even though I always choose Touchwiz home and make sure to check ALWAYS, it will come back asking me the same question when I hit home button.
The only solution to this problem was to reset the phone which helps, but the problem will appear again after few days or weeks.
I called Samsung Support and I spoke to a very nice person and I was told that the cause of this problem has to do with the kernel and some corrupted files there.
He said, my only solution is to change the motherboard, because if they put a new software, the problem will come back and the cost of the motherboard is 90% of the device value and since my phone was rooted before, I will have to pay the full price.
I told the guy that in status it shows now original and not custom, is there is a way that they can find out that my phone was once rooted before? He said yes, they will find it out because there is something that will show them history of the phone, something like that.
My question is, how can I clean up those files, how can I trick Samsung into thinking that my phone was never rooted before.
Thanks a lot guys in advance
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just clear ur binary using triangle away(by chainfire)
if u have Knox,well,bad luck,there is not a way yet to reset it..
To check Knox,go to download mode,there should be something like Knox warranty there...
Or,if u ever installed samsung's 4.3 update u will have Knox..
if u have Knox and its tripped,install a custom rom and enjoy.
btw,be confident in front of Samsung care executives,they will most likely try to convince that u did mess up and u will have to pay.they did this to me,but at end they had to take my phone under full warranty...
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anu.cool said:
just clear ur binary using triangle away(by chainfire)
if u have Knox,well,bad luck,there is not a way yet to reset it..
To check Knox,go to download mode,there should be something like Knox warranty there...
Or,if u ever installed samsung's 4.3 update u will have Knox..
if u have Knox and its tripped,install a custom rom and enjoy.
btw,be confident in front of Samsung care executives,they will most likely try to convince that u did mess up and u will have to pay.they did this to me,but at end they had to take my phone under full warranty...
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Thanks man.
Actually just few minutes ago, I found a thread about Triangle away and I did reset that counter. It shows now original.
I'm heading to Samsung services and see what crap they will pull on me now!! hehe
cheers

It all depends if the technician cares or not.In other threads, they say that Samsung use a special cable to reset knox.

theunderling said:
It all depends if the technician cares or not.In other threads, they say that Samsung use a special cable to reset knox.
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Talking about knox, I really don't know if it's official or not!!
Can you tell from the photo attached?

Knox warranty void: 0x1
So it is tripped and the warranty is void
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clouds73 said:
Talking about knox, I really don't know if it's official or not!!
Can you tell from the photo attached?
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You already void your warranty .... It shows Knox warranty Void 0x1 and you might end up paying them for repair. But if your country is part of EU .. then no need to worry about Knox crap.

It all comes down to Samsung warranty policy and your countrys consumer laws; and if Samsung cares about it.
Youll soon find out lol.

how about if I downgrade to 4.2.2? There was no knox back then.
Is it possible?

A downgrade is not possible afaik
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[Q] 4.4.2 Root keeping knox 0x0 progress?

Hello, does anybody know if we are close to a potential knox friendly root release for 4.4.2? I know that they pached 4.3 kernel and saferoot will not work on kitkat anymore..but because of this patch, will it be possible to root again while keeping knox 0x0? Or just say goodbye to saferoot and void our waranties?
I am asking because my GT-I9505 is starting to lag because of bloats and i would like to root it, am i waiting for a ''safe root'' that actually never going to be released? if yes im about to use cf autoroot right now.
feel free to express your opinion:good:

The unique way for root the phone is using CF- autoroot at this moment. This method void ur warranty, sorry :highfive:

Joku1981 said:
The unique way for root the phone is using CF- autoroot at this moment. This method void ur warranty, sorry :highfive:
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I already knew that cf root voids warranty. All i ask is if a ''saferoot'' method is now an impossible scenario due to the kernel patch....Or it's not? Any dev here to give an answer? I am sure there are many people waiting anxiously...

Dmoustakas said:
I already knew that cf root voids warranty. All i ask is if a ''saferoot'' method is now an impossible scenario due to the kernel patch....Or it's not? Any dev here to give an answer? I am sure there are many people waiting anxiously...
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I'm telling u that Saferoot worked for android 4.3 and no will all firmwares. Saferoot is dead atm. Do u think are the first asking for it? :highfive:

Joku1981 said:
I'm telling u that Saferoot worked for android 4.3 and no will all firmwares. Saferoot is dead atm. Do u think are the first asking for it? :highfive:
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I know everything you say, I just ask if it is impossible for ''saferoot'' or ''root de la vega'' or any similar root that is be able to bypass knox without tripping it in the near future, not now!....i know that these root methods do NOT work in the present, all i ask is for the near future, that is why i asked for a dev to give us a more specialized answer.
Thank you for your answer but please understand what i say
Cheers

Dmoustakas said:
i ask is for the near future,...
Thank you for your answer but please understand what i say
Cheers
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Of curse in near future the 4.4.2 ROMs will be rooted without tripping the KNOX and warranty flag.
I can assure you that ETA is around 24 months, so what you need to do is to sit and wait.

spamtrash said:
Of curse in near future the 4.4.2 ROMs will be rooted without tripping the KNOX and warranty flag.
I can assure you that ETA is around 24 months, so what you need to do is to sit and wait.
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xD

spamtrash said:
Of curse in near future the 4.4.2 ROMs will be rooted without tripping the KNOX and warranty flag.
I can assure you that ETA is around 24 months, so what you need to do is to sit and wait.
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Sarcasm never helped anyone. Thanks.

Dmoustakas said:
Sarcasm never helped anyone. Thanks.
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Do you want serious approach?
Be my guest. Current circumstances are:
1. Samsung announced about in near future 4.4.3 release for G4;
2. sometime ago S5 was released.
1+2=less and less devs have interest in work with G4 4.4.2, therefore it is very unlikely that it will be any breakthrough, if something universal (like common trick, let's say for Note 3+G4) would emerge, Even Samsung is not approaching the 4.4.2 seriously (known GLONASS bug, problems with data connections, drains etc are remaining unfixed).
Conclusion: because of the above, you can sit and wait, as I stated in previous post, having hope that something may appear.

I have some question about Knox

Hi
I have bought me a new samsung s5 and I really want to flash a different rom and kernel but now I wonder if someone can tell me if the warranty is gone if I do that (if I understood it right it would trigger the knox)?,is there any way to reset the knox thing?
best regards
Peter
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shysstkille said:
Hi
I have bought me a new samsung s5 and I really want to flash a different rom and kernel but now I wonder if someone can tell me if the warranty is gone if I do that (if I understood it right it would trigger the knox)?,is there any way to reset the knox thing?
best regards
Peter
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Look here http://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/ for instance and KNOX cannot be reset atm. You can root with Towelroot without tripipng KNOX but flashing a kernel or custom recovery will set KNOX on 0x1. Yes, tripping KNOX will void warranty in some regions depending on local laws. In the EU it doesn`t unless the oem can prove that rooting was the cause of the defect.

shysstkille said:
I really want to flash a different rom and kernel but now I wonder if someone can tell me if the warranty is gone if I do that (if I understood it right it would trigger the knox)?,is there any way to reset the knox thing?
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Knox doesn't matter to most people. Samsung will, particularly in North America disavow a warranty if Knox is tripped. But most people don't deal with Samsung for warranty issues. They deal with their carrier and most carriers don't care about Knox.And stronger consumer protection legislation in the EU means that your warranty rights cannot be summarily dismissed. You signature suggests that you may be in the EU in which case it isn't likely an issue for you. Do a forum search to see how your carrier, which you neglected to name, handles warranty claims.
A forum search would have given you better answers to all of your questions. You would find threads demonstrating that Knox can be reset. But it has only been demonstrated in limited and experimental conditions so far. It's not yet clear how widely that could be applied and isn't likely to be easily accessible to you anytime soon. A custom recovery, custom kernel or some older root methods will trip Knox.
If you are unwilling to trip Knox, then use towel root which shouldn't increment Knox and Safestrap to run your ROM. It's a lot more cumbersome and limits your choices. But you pick your poison and drink it.
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fffft said:
Knox doesn't matter to most people. Samsung will, particularly in North America disavow a warranty if Knox is tripped. But most people don't deal with Samsung for warranty issues. They deal with their carrier and most carriers don't care about Knox.And stronger consumer protection legislation in the EU means that your warranty rights cannot be summarily dismissed. You signature suggests that you may be in the EU in which case it isn't likely an issue for you. Do a forum search to see how your carrier, which you neglected to name, handles warranty claims.
A forum search would have given you better answers to all of your questions. You would find threads demonstrating that Knox can be reset. But it has only been demonstrated in limited and experimental conditions so far. It's not yet clear how widely that could be applied and isn't likely to be easily accessible to you anytime soon. A custom recovery, custom kernel or some older root methods will trip Knox.
If you are unwilling to trip Knox, then use towel root which shouldn't increment Knox and Safestrap to run your ROM. It's a lot more cumbersome and limits your choices. But you pick your poison and drink it.
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thanks all for your answer,For the moment I have towelroot in my phone but is there any difference between towelroot and a "normal"root?,I mean is it more limits when I use towelroot?,on my samsung s4 I have a "normal" root.
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shysstkille said:
is there any difference between towelroot and a "normal"root?,I mean is it more limits when I use towelroot?,on my samsung s4 I have a "normal" root.
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No, root is root. Towel root is just a nickname to the latest way to obtain root.
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fffft said:
No, root is root. Towel root is just a nickname to the latest way to obtain root.
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åh,Nice,thanks a lot mate
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How do I check the Knox counter?.... :/
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Toxicoblivion said:
How do I check the Knox counter?
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A forum search would have told you this.. look on the download mode page, in the system properties or install an app like Phone Info.
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shysstkille said:
thanks all for your answer,For the moment I have towelroot in my phone but is there any difference between towelroot and a "normal"root?,I mean is it more limits when I use towelroot?,on my samsung s4 I have a "normal" root.
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Towelroot uses an exploit so it won't trip your KNOX counter.
Using regular root on the GS5 trips KNOX.
But as stated above, flashing a custom recovery, kernel or ROM will trip KNOX regardless.
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Toxicoblivion said:
How do I check the Knox counter?.... :/
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You can either use download mode like the guy who replied to you or download an app off playstore called Phone Info.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo&hl=en