Hello, does anybody know if we are close to a potential knox friendly root release for 4.4.2? I know that they pached 4.3 kernel and saferoot will not work on kitkat anymore..but because of this patch, will it be possible to root again while keeping knox 0x0? Or just say goodbye to saferoot and void our waranties?
I am asking because my GT-I9505 is starting to lag because of bloats and i would like to root it, am i waiting for a ''safe root'' that actually never going to be released? if yes im about to use cf autoroot right now.
feel free to express your opinion:good:
The unique way for root the phone is using CF- autoroot at this moment. This method void ur warranty, sorry :highfive:
Joku1981 said:
The unique way for root the phone is using CF- autoroot at this moment. This method void ur warranty, sorry :highfive:
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I already knew that cf root voids warranty. All i ask is if a ''saferoot'' method is now an impossible scenario due to the kernel patch....Or it's not? Any dev here to give an answer? I am sure there are many people waiting anxiously...
Dmoustakas said:
I already knew that cf root voids warranty. All i ask is if a ''saferoot'' method is now an impossible scenario due to the kernel patch....Or it's not? Any dev here to give an answer? I am sure there are many people waiting anxiously...
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I'm telling u that Saferoot worked for android 4.3 and no will all firmwares. Saferoot is dead atm. Do u think are the first asking for it? :highfive:
Joku1981 said:
I'm telling u that Saferoot worked for android 4.3 and no will all firmwares. Saferoot is dead atm. Do u think are the first asking for it? :highfive:
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I know everything you say, I just ask if it is impossible for ''saferoot'' or ''root de la vega'' or any similar root that is be able to bypass knox without tripping it in the near future, not now!....i know that these root methods do NOT work in the present, all i ask is for the near future, that is why i asked for a dev to give us a more specialized answer.
Thank you for your answer but please understand what i say
Cheers
Dmoustakas said:
i ask is for the near future,...
Thank you for your answer but please understand what i say
Cheers
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Of curse in near future the 4.4.2 ROMs will be rooted without tripping the KNOX and warranty flag.
I can assure you that ETA is around 24 months, so what you need to do is to sit and wait.
spamtrash said:
Of curse in near future the 4.4.2 ROMs will be rooted without tripping the KNOX and warranty flag.
I can assure you that ETA is around 24 months, so what you need to do is to sit and wait.
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xD
spamtrash said:
Of curse in near future the 4.4.2 ROMs will be rooted without tripping the KNOX and warranty flag.
I can assure you that ETA is around 24 months, so what you need to do is to sit and wait.
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Sarcasm never helped anyone. Thanks.
Dmoustakas said:
Sarcasm never helped anyone. Thanks.
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Do you want serious approach?
Be my guest. Current circumstances are:
1. Samsung announced about in near future 4.4.3 release for G4;
2. sometime ago S5 was released.
1+2=less and less devs have interest in work with G4 4.4.2, therefore it is very unlikely that it will be any breakthrough, if something universal (like common trick, let's say for Note 3+G4) would emerge, Even Samsung is not approaching the 4.4.2 seriously (known GLONASS bug, problems with data connections, drains etc are remaining unfixed).
Conclusion: because of the above, you can sit and wait, as I stated in previous post, having hope that something may appear.
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Hi,
I just recieved my Note 3 this morning , but have a few questions about rooting on it...
Not sure what information is required, but my phone is on Android 4.3 and its a SM-N9005.
I don't really have any plans about installing custom roms as such, but I do want it to be rooted and I want to stick to official samsung firmware. (At least for now, it may change in the long term future). I'm wanting to update to KitKat too (When its available in the UK anyway, doesn't seem to be out here yet anyway)
I'm pretty scared about this Knox flag I'm hearing about too... Not so sure about it, but I hear its essentially makes your warranty void, which I don't want this early in.
Anyone have any advice for me based on this?
Thanks
XLAAX said:
Hi,
I just recieved my Note 3 this morning , but have a few questions about rooting on it...
Not sure what information is required, but my phone is on Android 4.3 and its a SM-N9005.
I don't really have any plans about installing custom roms as such, but I do want it to be rooted and I want to stick to official samsung firmware. (At least for now, it may change in the long term future). I'm wanting to update to KitKat too (When its available in the UK anyway, doesn't seem to be out here yet anyway)
I'm pretty scared about this Knox flag I'm hearing about too... Not so sure about it, but I hear its essentially makes your warranty void, which I don't want this early in.
Anyone have any advice for me based on this?
Thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498850
Rosli59564 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498850
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Ah thanks for that. Was reading up on it but couldn't see something as detailed as this.
I'm guessing its saying I can't root without tripping the Knox yet... which is a bummer...
My Baseband ends in MJ7
My build number ends in MK2
Does this mean I can't root at all without tripping the knox yet?
If so is there any sort of...development in this area?
XLAAX said:
Does this mean I can't root at all without tripping the knox yet?
If so is there any sort of...development in this area?
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No and no.
If you are worried about knox, then don't root, yet.
But as far as I know, under European laws, Samsung cannot refute warranty even if your knox is tripped.
Read around. Or ask other people from Europe about this. @radicalisto
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Ah thanks for that. Was reading up on it but couldn't see something as detailed as this.
I'm guessing its saying I can't root without tripping the Knox yet... which is a bummer...
My Baseband ends in MJ7
My build number ends in MK2
Does this mean I can't root at all without tripping the knox yet?
If so is there any sort of...development in this area?
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Fraid not, only way you can root is by tripping KNOX. Now the way Europe handles KNOX warranty is a massive grey area, if you encounter Hardware issues it'll probably get fixed, but don't take that as solid.
My advice, stick with stock for 2-4 weeks, see if you have any HW issues, if not go ahead and trip it only if you want root and/or custom ROMs.
Do a ton of reading in the couple of weeks while you're waiting and look at the issues and risks
So my brand new s4 has just arrived, i was all hyped about rooting it and installing roms to it until i found about this knox warranty void thing, i know i should be searching for data and avoid posting a new thread but to make it short, i tried to search the forums but i found nothing but theories, nothing solid. So just wondering if there is anyway to root my s4 i9500 without voiding my warranty. ? Thanks.
Please try to avoid answers such as google it or similar cause i already did. Thanks !
running android 4.4.2
Poroto said:
So my brand new s4 has just arrived, i was all hyped about rooting it and installing roms to it until i found about this knox warranty void thing, i know i should be searching for data and avoid posting a new thread but to make it short, i tried to search the forums but i found nothing but theories, nothing solid. So just wondering if there is anyway to root my s4 i9500 without voiding my warranty. ? Thanks.
Please try to avoid answers such as google it or similar cause i already did. Thanks !
running android 4.4.2
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There are 2 threads in the i9505 forums that have everything you could ever want to know. One is all about Knox in general an dhow it works and what it does. (It's even a sticky, man.) The other is titles something like "Knox and warranty". I assure you it's all there.
there is no saferoot method for 4.4.2 you are out of luck
if you want to root you will trip knox
RubbaBand said:
there is no saferoot method for 4.4.2 you are out of luck
if you want to root you will trip knox
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Oh okay, that was the type of answer i was expected, simple and straight to the point. Guess ill be staying on pure stock then, thanks!
I have a samsung galaxy s4 i9500 and i am waiting for a root method without tripping knox. Is there any update? Unfortunately towelroot doesnt support my device.
Nope
Arjoni said:
I have a samsung galaxy s4 i9500 and i am waiting for a root method without tripping knox. Is there any update? Unfortunately towelroot doesnt support my device.
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Of course it is a HUGE progress, and the root is ready for some days in General thread. And, as it causes most of attraction, it is on first page of this section.
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Of course it is a HUGE progress, and the root is ready for some days in General thread. And, as it causes most of attraction, it is on first page of this section.
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WITHOUT tripping knox. i have checked a lot and didn't find anything.
spamtrash said:
Of course it is a HUGE progress, and the root is ready for some days in General thread. And, as it causes most of attraction, it is on first page of this section.
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wat ?
No, if towelroot doesnt work on your device, im adraid there's no other method to root without tripping knox
Hi,
Please don't flame. If the other user has been rude for you, please just report him instead of starting a verbal war. Also, never speak like that again, after all XDA is not a mess because of them .
Regarding your issue, I'm sorry, but afaik the only non tripping method out there for now is towelroot, but still doesn't support your model. If I recall correctly there was another method, not sure if still works... I believe you can find it in the Galaxy s4 Help Thread OP.
~Lord
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okay sorry for this. Sorry to the other user too.
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Hello and respects, got 2 doubts, if i Just root my i9500, the flash counter or the knox, know it? And the second, why theres so little development for this phone?, only 2 pages..... Thanxs in advance.
Your flash counter or Knox won't trip if you use towelroot method.. Any other method will trip as far as I know.. And there is probably little development for that device because Samsung did not manufacture as many units as the other models so not many devs got their hands on one
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Your flash counter or Knox won't trip if you use towelroot method.. Any other method will trip as far as I know.. And there is probably little development for that device because Samsung did not manufacture as many units as the other models so not many devs got their hands on one
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Thankyou, can i unroot then with this method?
Im reading in the forum and people say it dont work on i9500....
maxxxz said:
Im reading in the forum and people say it dont work on i9500....
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Sorry about that, I thought it may or may not but wasn't sure.. I don't think there is another way to root it without tripping anything at the moment then
Hello all,
I searched the forums round and round, and couldn't find my answers so I hope you will be able to help me out.
i'm looking for a new phone and decided I want to go with the S5. that was before i learned about KNOX and it's wonderful ways.
i'm a heavy modder, who will most definitely use a custom recovery and ROM/kernel.
my questions are:
1. would it be possible to flash a custom recovery / rom / kernel / modem despite KNOX being preset?
2. other then getting this 0x1 and voiding my official warranty, are there any other result to this? will something not work?
3. assuming I get an unlocked international phone, is there any need to mess/change my FW? or is that just part of guides for rooting without tripping KNOX ?
Basically, I want to be sure that I could do whatever I want to the phone without getting stuck or turning it unusable because of KNOX. my current phone is a Nexus 4 and it has been heaven. I want to preserve this feeling
thanks for the help guys, appreciate it!
Did you tried Towelroot method for rooting your device? I heard that doesn't trigger knox..
I would imagine my rooting the phone is the least of my worries.
as far as I know - and this is one of my questions - flashing a custom recovery and or rom will 100% trip KNOX.
not that I care, I just need to know if this is true..and my other questions as well
thanks!
A brief answer
If you - as you say "i'm a heavy modder" Samsung phones are not for you
I've heard tales of people having issues flashing modems when knox is triggered. I have not checked that out for myself Joe have I searched any further into the matter.
I plan on breaking knox soon though because screw knox.
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A brief answer
If you - as you say "i'm a heavy modder" Samsung phones are not for you
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This answer really worries me to be honest.
could you elaborate?
I don't really care about KNOX, and as long as I can mod away and jump back and forth between modems/roms/kernels - I don't care for the warranty.
If indeed there is truth in the matter, and modem flashing will become a problem if KNOX is tripped, then this would be a deal breaker for me on this phone.
anyone care to add more info here?
Amornik said:
This answer really worries me to be honest.
could you elaborate?
I don't really care about KNOX, and as long as I can mod away and jump back and forth between modems/roms/kernels - I don't care for the warranty.
If indeed there is truth in the matter, and modem flashing will become a problem if KNOX is tripped, then this would be a deal breaker for me on this phone.
anyone care to add more info here?
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You can, but you will always have problems like network, connection,calls, bugs and so on
Samsung devices do not provide the old pleasure as previously
Knox killed freedom of developers and people who like customizations
I would really appreciate an answer from someone who knows for sure.
does tripping KNOX disables the option to upgrade/downgrade the modem?
Amornik said:
I would really appreciate an answer from someone who knows for sure.
does tripping KNOX disables the option to upgrade/downgrade the modem?
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No, KNOX tripping is only at the moment a warranty void solution for samsung. its like the flash count flags.
basically if you trip knox. you're already in it. you do what you want
Amornik said:
I would really appreciate an answer from someone who knows for sure.
does tripping KNOX disables the option to upgrade/downgrade the modem?
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I bought my phone with ANCE firmware and the KNOX was tripped in the first hour by CF-AutoRoot. Now I'm on ANG2, flashed with Odin and the modem is updated correctly.
Dark_Avenger said:
I bought my phone with ANCE firmware and the KNOX was tripped in the first hour by CF-AutoRoot. Now I'm on ANG2, flashed with Odin and the modem is updated correctly.
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Now i'm a bit confused when you say you upgrade the FW, you mean the modem baseband, right ?
Amornik said:
Now i'm a bit confused when you say you upgrade the FW, you mean the modem baseband, right ?
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Exactly, but with full stock image flush (including bootloader). The full stock tar.md5 form sammobile includes the modem/bootloader/rom. I think that the important thing is to have a modem which is compatible with the bootloader (same version). Didn't try to mix different bootloader/modem(baseband) versions.
Tripping KNOX will only disable the feature which allows you to store some data on a encrypted part of the device (Mostly comercial use) when KNOX is tripped any data stored on the 'special' partition is destroyed.
So there are only 2 things that will be affected, your warranty (Not a problem in Europe) and the special partition that I explained earlier.
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Thanks guys, excellent replies !
So...I did it !
I went and bought a brand new S5, and tripped KNOX within the hour. Man, did it feel sooo good !
custom recovery up, rom up, here we go!