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[Q] 4.4.2 Root keeping knox 0x0 progress?

Hello, does anybody know if we are close to a potential knox friendly root release for 4.4.2? I know that they pached 4.3 kernel and saferoot will not work on kitkat anymore..but because of this patch, will it be possible to root again while keeping knox 0x0? Or just say goodbye to saferoot and void our waranties?
I am asking because my GT-I9505 is starting to lag because of bloats and i would like to root it, am i waiting for a ''safe root'' that actually never going to be released? if yes im about to use cf autoroot right now.
feel free to express your opinion:good:

The unique way for root the phone is using CF- autoroot at this moment. This method void ur warranty, sorry :highfive:

Joku1981 said:
The unique way for root the phone is using CF- autoroot at this moment. This method void ur warranty, sorry :highfive:
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I already knew that cf root voids warranty. All i ask is if a ''saferoot'' method is now an impossible scenario due to the kernel patch....Or it's not? Any dev here to give an answer? I am sure there are many people waiting anxiously...

Dmoustakas said:
I already knew that cf root voids warranty. All i ask is if a ''saferoot'' method is now an impossible scenario due to the kernel patch....Or it's not? Any dev here to give an answer? I am sure there are many people waiting anxiously...
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I'm telling u that Saferoot worked for android 4.3 and no will all firmwares. Saferoot is dead atm. Do u think are the first asking for it? :highfive:

Joku1981 said:
I'm telling u that Saferoot worked for android 4.3 and no will all firmwares. Saferoot is dead atm. Do u think are the first asking for it? :highfive:
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I know everything you say, I just ask if it is impossible for ''saferoot'' or ''root de la vega'' or any similar root that is be able to bypass knox without tripping it in the near future, not now!....i know that these root methods do NOT work in the present, all i ask is for the near future, that is why i asked for a dev to give us a more specialized answer.
Thank you for your answer but please understand what i say
Cheers

Dmoustakas said:
i ask is for the near future,...
Thank you for your answer but please understand what i say
Cheers
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Of curse in near future the 4.4.2 ROMs will be rooted without tripping the KNOX and warranty flag.
I can assure you that ETA is around 24 months, so what you need to do is to sit and wait.

spamtrash said:
Of curse in near future the 4.4.2 ROMs will be rooted without tripping the KNOX and warranty flag.
I can assure you that ETA is around 24 months, so what you need to do is to sit and wait.
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xD

spamtrash said:
Of curse in near future the 4.4.2 ROMs will be rooted without tripping the KNOX and warranty flag.
I can assure you that ETA is around 24 months, so what you need to do is to sit and wait.
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Sarcasm never helped anyone. Thanks.

Dmoustakas said:
Sarcasm never helped anyone. Thanks.
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Do you want serious approach?
Be my guest. Current circumstances are:
1. Samsung announced about in near future 4.4.3 release for G4;
2. sometime ago S5 was released.
1+2=less and less devs have interest in work with G4 4.4.2, therefore it is very unlikely that it will be any breakthrough, if something universal (like common trick, let's say for Note 3+G4) would emerge, Even Samsung is not approaching the 4.4.2 seriously (known GLONASS bug, problems with data connections, drains etc are remaining unfixed).
Conclusion: because of the above, you can sit and wait, as I stated in previous post, having hope that something may appear.

[Q] General inquiry about KNOX and FW types

Hello all,
I searched the forums round and round, and couldn't find my answers so I hope you will be able to help me out.
i'm looking for a new phone and decided I want to go with the S5. that was before i learned about KNOX and it's wonderful ways.
i'm a heavy modder, who will most definitely use a custom recovery and ROM/kernel.
my questions are:
1. would it be possible to flash a custom recovery / rom / kernel / modem despite KNOX being preset?
2. other then getting this 0x1 and voiding my official warranty, are there any other result to this? will something not work?
3. assuming I get an unlocked international phone, is there any need to mess/change my FW? or is that just part of guides for rooting without tripping KNOX ?
Basically, I want to be sure that I could do whatever I want to the phone without getting stuck or turning it unusable because of KNOX. my current phone is a Nexus 4 and it has been heaven. I want to preserve this feeling
thanks for the help guys, appreciate it!

Did you tried Towelroot method for rooting your device? I heard that doesn't trigger knox..

I would imagine my rooting the phone is the least of my worries.
as far as I know - and this is one of my questions - flashing a custom recovery and or rom will 100% trip KNOX.
not that I care, I just need to know if this is true..and my other questions as well
thanks!

A brief answer
If you - as you say "i'm a heavy modder" Samsung phones are not for you

I've heard tales of people having issues flashing modems when knox is triggered. I have not checked that out for myself Joe have I searched any further into the matter.
I plan on breaking knox soon though because screw knox.
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chainbr3ak said:
A brief answer
If you - as you say "i'm a heavy modder" Samsung phones are not for you
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This answer really worries me to be honest.
could you elaborate?
I don't really care about KNOX, and as long as I can mod away and jump back and forth between modems/roms/kernels - I don't care for the warranty.
If indeed there is truth in the matter, and modem flashing will become a problem if KNOX is tripped, then this would be a deal breaker for me on this phone.
anyone care to add more info here?

Amornik said:
This answer really worries me to be honest.
could you elaborate?
I don't really care about KNOX, and as long as I can mod away and jump back and forth between modems/roms/kernels - I don't care for the warranty.
If indeed there is truth in the matter, and modem flashing will become a problem if KNOX is tripped, then this would be a deal breaker for me on this phone.
anyone care to add more info here?
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You can, but you will always have problems like network, connection,calls, bugs and so on
Samsung devices do not provide the old pleasure as previously
Knox killed freedom of developers and people who like customizations

I would really appreciate an answer from someone who knows for sure.
does tripping KNOX disables the option to upgrade/downgrade the modem?

Amornik said:
I would really appreciate an answer from someone who knows for sure.
does tripping KNOX disables the option to upgrade/downgrade the modem?
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No, KNOX tripping is only at the moment a warranty void solution for samsung. its like the flash count flags.
basically if you trip knox. you're already in it. you do what you want

Amornik said:
I would really appreciate an answer from someone who knows for sure.
does tripping KNOX disables the option to upgrade/downgrade the modem?
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I bought my phone with ANCE firmware and the KNOX was tripped in the first hour by CF-AutoRoot. Now I'm on ANG2, flashed with Odin and the modem is updated correctly.

Dark_Avenger said:
I bought my phone with ANCE firmware and the KNOX was tripped in the first hour by CF-AutoRoot. Now I'm on ANG2, flashed with Odin and the modem is updated correctly.
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Now i'm a bit confused when you say you upgrade the FW, you mean the modem baseband, right ?

Amornik said:
Now i'm a bit confused when you say you upgrade the FW, you mean the modem baseband, right ?
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Exactly, but with full stock image flush (including bootloader). The full stock tar.md5 form sammobile includes the modem/bootloader/rom. I think that the important thing is to have a modem which is compatible with the bootloader (same version). Didn't try to mix different bootloader/modem(baseband) versions.

Tripping KNOX will only disable the feature which allows you to store some data on a encrypted part of the device (Mostly comercial use) when KNOX is tripped any data stored on the 'special' partition is destroyed.
So there are only 2 things that will be affected, your warranty (Not a problem in Europe) and the special partition that I explained earlier.
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Thanks guys, excellent replies !
So...I did it !
I went and bought a brand new S5, and tripped KNOX within the hour. Man, did it feel sooo good !
custom recovery up, rom up, here we go!

Rooting without tripping Knox?

Hi all,
I am stuck, I have google authenticator which I can not move from rooted note2 to the note4 (unrooted)
The only concern is voiding warranty, as with the note2 I could simply reflash an official samsung ROM.
My question is, should I wait a few weeks to see what the geniuses here can do? I saw another device was able to get rooted without tripping knox, is this plausible for this to occur on Note 4?
Thanks in advance

geohots root towelroot - This was a root for Note3 that doesnt trip Knox, I hope this dev is on a note 4...

Don't hold your breath waiting for an workaround.
An efuse gets tripped when rooting that sets off knox and its impossible to reverse.
I don't think the note 3 was dealing with an efuse.

I have to second this^
I think we will be waiting a long while. Maybe a BIG bounty for the Dev who cracks this will help but yes if E-fuse gets tripped then there is no going back so very curious what work-a-round will come... If any. I personally don't care if knox tripped.. Not always but often.. If phone under warranty and the hardware defect was NOT caused by rooring/tweaking.. Sammy will fix or replace anyways.. At least in GTA location.
For me, bottom line- I want FULL control of my phone and to have it setup and functioning the way I want so Root is a non question.. Warranty goes, then so be it. Sucks but is the way it is now.. Damn manufacturers
Sent from my *ROOTED* Note 4 SM-N910W8

In the meantime, I am trying to maintain a thread about non-root solutions. Check it out!

About rooting galaxy s4

Hello,
I was wondering if the application "kingroot" is a good and trustable option to trust my device?
I also saw a site "oneclickroot.com" that looked intresting but after research I saw it's not trustable that they are out of your money.
Or what would you guys advice me?
It's not for intalling roms and so on. Just for other options that I want to root my device.
Greetings

CF-Auto-Root. It's the only way to go. And you can't without a PC.

ah owkey, and "kingroot" is unsafe then?
Oh and what about unrooting the device is that also possible with cf auto root?

And what about towelroot??
http://gs4.wonderhowto.com/how-to/root-any-samsung-galaxy-s4-one-click-0155622/

Avanox said:
And what about towelroot??
http://gs4.wonderhowto.com/how-to/root-any-samsung-galaxy-s4-one-click-0155622/
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Towelroot will simply not work on 5.0 (will reboot the phone after a while from clicking "make it ra1n" but no root access delivered)
For 4.4 you need GNF1 or older kernel for it to work - see HERE if you have newer version but still KK.

Ah ok and kingroot is also no option?
I m searching for the easyest way.
And is your way also possible to unroot?

The easiest way is CF-Autoroot, period. Flash it with the Odin software, let it deliver its payload, and you're done. If you want to unroot afterward, simply uninstall SuperSU.

Ah owkey so it's possible to unroot the device.
Will my warranty then not be rooted.
It's about galaxy s4
Some people talk about "trig Knox flag to 0x1?"
What is that???
Is it something with the warranty???
Because I don't want that my warranty is woided.

If I use your method and I must remove it with time the root.
Is this the application that I will need to reset the trig knox flag to 0x0 ???
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway
Greetings

I believe it was @zelendel who brought this up on another thread, but he asks people what root is and why they need it. Since you're clearly new at this, I'm taking a page from his book.
1. What is root?
2. Why do you need root?
If you cannot answer both questions, you have no business nor need of rooting your S4. That said, there is an entire thread on Knox in the General forum that you should be reading if you want to know more. However, regardless of the methods used, if you root the Knox flag will be tripped. Once tripped, it stays tripped. There is no way to reset it, period.

Avanox said:
Ah owkey so it's possible to unroot the device.
Will my warranty then not be rooted.
It's about galaxy s4
Some people talk about "trig Knox flag to 0x1?"
What is that???
Is it something with the warranty???
Because I don't want that my warranty is woided.
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Knox is some kind of security crap from Samsung. You can find more about it in the s4 general section or by googling it.
Knox default status is 0x0.
Tripping knox to 0x1 will voind your warranty.

1. rooting the the device is to have acces to the root of the phone so you can do more with your phone.
2. I want to root it because I want to have following options enabled at my phone.
* Moving programs to my sd card (not possible anymore without rooting)
* More control over 3G/4G/Wifi/Gps (from my computer) when phone is lost
* Set a security code on the phone factory reset (with avast root edition)
* Using less battery to let greenpower auto disable the 3G or wifi and so on.
At the moment this are the most important things for me.
Flashing roms and so on doesn't intrest me now , because everything is working fine.
Greetings Avanox
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I believe it was @zelendel who brought this up on another thread, but he asks people what root is and why they need it. Since you're clearly new at this, I'm taking a page from his book.
1. What is root?
2. Why do you need root?
If you cannot answer both questions, you have no business nor need of rooting your S4. That said, there is an entire thread on Knox in the General forum that you should be reading if you want to know more. However, regardless of the methods used, if you root the Knox flag will be tripped. Once tripped, it stays tripped. There is no way to reset it, period.
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Fantastic. The reason I asked was to get you to slow down a bit and think about what you're doing. Your previous posts in the thread were all over the place and gave the impression that you didn't know what you were doing.
Back to Knox, do you still have a warranty on the S4? Most units will be out of warranty, in which case it won't matter if you trip the Knox flag. If you're trying to preserve your warranty, it probably will not be possible due to changes to Android.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Fantastic. The reason I asked was to get you to slow down a bit and think about what you're doing. Your previous posts in the thread were all over the place and gave the impression that you didn't know what you were doing.
Back to Knox, do you still have a warranty on the S4? Most units will be out of warranty, in which case it won't matter if you trip the Knox flag. If you're trying to preserve your warranty, it probably will not be possible due to changes to Android.
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Well yes I do have 2 year warranty because I did bought the galaxy s4 just 2 weeks ago, that's why I don't want to root it.
But if I could root it and still have the warranty on one or other way or set it back to normal , well that changes everything.
There are to much cool featers with this rooting stuff.
And also because I can't copy any files anymore to the sd card , stupidest change in android I've seen :'o
Greetings Avanox

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Fantastic. The reason I asked was to get you to slow down a bit and think about what you're doing. Your previous posts in the thread were all over the place and gave the impression that you didn't know what you were doing.
Back to Knox, do you still have a warranty on the S4? Most units will be out of warranty, in which case it won't matter if you trip the Knox flag. If you're trying to preserve your warranty, it probably will not be possible due to changes to Android.
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Ah owkey np.
Well yes I do have 2 year warranty because I did bought the galaxy s4 just 2 weeks ago, that's why I don't want to root it.
But if I could root it and still have the warranty on one or other way or set it back to normal , well that changes everything.
There are to much cool featers with this rooting stuff.
And also because I can't copy any files anymore to the sd card , stupidest change in android I've seen :'o
Greetings Avanox

So apparently you're still on Android 4.4.2, since Android 5.x removed the MicroSD card restriction. Is that correct?
As long as you are NOT on Android 5.x, you can root without tripping Knox, by downgrading the bootloader and modem to an earlier version, then running Towelroot. The drawback is that you won't be able to upgrade to Android 5.x. OTA updates won't function, and using Odin to upgrade wipes the /system partition, which will cost you root.
Regardless of the warranty, I personally would trip Knox and not lose any sleep over it.

Hey
Sorry for my double post.
Euh no, android 5.0.1 was already pre installed on this phone.
It is galaxy s4 black edition gt-i9515
Hmm maybe I must wait for a moment maybe there will come new safer methods
Greetings

The fact you have a value edition S4 changes things. You might as well flash CF-Autoroot now, because there are no safe methods for you. There are no custom ROMs either, but I digress.

@darrendude1: Rule number 1 of this site is to search before you post. The entire reason the rule is present is to avoid having people ask the same questions over and over again, simply because the question has likely been already answered. It applies regardless of whether you are a noob, senior member, recognized developer, or any other title the site may bestow.
In the case of the OP, you clearly didn't read the thread, because I explained to the OP exactly why I asked the questions. He understood why I asked them, and from there we have continued the conversation. To a noob, I would hope they would take rule 1 to heart, and actually did some research into what root is so they could actually explain why they think they need it.

Can i root my o2 Samsung galaxy s10+ phone without voiding warranty.

Just the title

EarthMonster said:
Just the title
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rooting a Samsung phone almost always ‘trips Knox’
(permanently blows an e-fuse) and voids the warranty

dezborders said:
rooting a Samsung phone almost always ‘trips Knox’
(permanently blows an e-fuse) and voids the warranty
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Even using magisk + custom recovery? I've heard things like Netflix don't usually work with root but this way it does.

U cant have your cake and eat it too.

Knox being broken shouldn't void warranty under EU consumer laws. But you best do your due diligence and not just take my word for it.
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EarthMonster said:
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The answer is no. At least nothing publicly available.
Theres plenty of USA s10+ owners who would be all over if it was possible since we cant even unlock the BL which means stuck waiting around for alternate root methods

dezborders said:
rooting a Samsung phone almost always ‘trips Knox’
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This is not true. It depends on "how" you root. Finding a way to root without unlocking the BL and using custom boot/recovery usually does not trip Knox. Of course these methods are becoming more and more rare. For example I rooted s8/s8+ USA variants back when they launched which was using a few vulns, certain signed samsung firmware and system root and Knox was fine. They also can root USA Note 8 devices using other means without tripping Knox. I also rooted USA N9 on combo firmware without tripping knox/warranty bit.
Heck even unlocking bootloader sometimes doesnt trip Knox until you actually flash custom firmware. Typically if you use Magisk root or TWRP on an unlocked bootloader then you definitely will trip Knox. Point is that it's possible to root without tripping knox as it has been done many times over the years. Nowadays though most people just buy unlockable variants so it's really all anyone sees or knows about most the time.

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Even using magisk + custom recovery? I've heard things like Netflix don't usually work with root but this way it does.
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Lol
Seeing as how magisk patched firmware and TWRP specifically require an unlocked BL which is exactly what trips knox your answer is no. That will 100% trip your knox flag.
As far as Netflix (and many other companies) they are always trying to be as secure as possible. Theres many who find ways to get around those types of issues. It's just a cat n mouse game sometimes i.e devs get it working then Netflix breaks it again then users find a way to get around it etc etc

elliwigy said:
This is not true. It depends on "how" you root. Finding a way to root without unlocking the BL and using custom boot/recovery usually does not trip Knox. Of course these methods are becoming more and more rare. For example I rooted s8/s8+ USA variants back when they launched which was using a few vulns, certain signed samsung firmware and system root and Knox was fine. They also can root USA Note 8 devices using other means without tripping Knox. I also rooted USA N9 on combo firmware without tripping knox/warranty bit.
Heck even unlocking bootloader sometimes doesnt trip Knox until you actually flash custom firmware. Typically if you use Magisk root or TWRP on an unlocked bootloader then you definitely will trip Knox. Point is that it's possible to root without tripping knox as it has been done many times over the years. Nowadays though most people just buy unlockable variants so it's really all anyone sees or knows about most the time.
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What you say is true anything is “possible”
However as the OP is on the O2 network he has an Exynos chipset.
Is it currently possible to root an Exynos S10+ without tripping Knox ?
I stopped rooting about 5 years ago so don’t know of a way right now

dezborders said:
What you say is true anything is “possible”
However as the OP is on the O2 network he has an Exynos chipset.
Is it currently possible to root an Exynos S10+ without tripping Knox ?
I stopped rooting about 5 years ago so don’t know of a way right now
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ive never owned one.. i imagine most just unlock bl.. but from wat my sources tell me there is easy root on exynos without tripping knox.. I am not able to provide details tho as they are private methods.. they use it for business and such apparently so take it with a grain of salt lol
exynos are notoriously known to b a lot easier to root than SD variants
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