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Hi,
I just recieved my Note 3 this morning , but have a few questions about rooting on it...
Not sure what information is required, but my phone is on Android 4.3 and its a SM-N9005.
I don't really have any plans about installing custom roms as such, but I do want it to be rooted and I want to stick to official samsung firmware. (At least for now, it may change in the long term future). I'm wanting to update to KitKat too (When its available in the UK anyway, doesn't seem to be out here yet anyway)
I'm pretty scared about this Knox flag I'm hearing about too... Not so sure about it, but I hear its essentially makes your warranty void, which I don't want this early in.
Anyone have any advice for me based on this?
Thanks
XLAAX said:
Hi,
I just recieved my Note 3 this morning , but have a few questions about rooting on it...
Not sure what information is required, but my phone is on Android 4.3 and its a SM-N9005.
I don't really have any plans about installing custom roms as such, but I do want it to be rooted and I want to stick to official samsung firmware. (At least for now, it may change in the long term future). I'm wanting to update to KitKat too (When its available in the UK anyway, doesn't seem to be out here yet anyway)
I'm pretty scared about this Knox flag I'm hearing about too... Not so sure about it, but I hear its essentially makes your warranty void, which I don't want this early in.
Anyone have any advice for me based on this?
Thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498850
Rosli59564 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498850
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Ah thanks for that. Was reading up on it but couldn't see something as detailed as this.
I'm guessing its saying I can't root without tripping the Knox yet... which is a bummer...
My Baseband ends in MJ7
My build number ends in MK2
Does this mean I can't root at all without tripping the knox yet?
If so is there any sort of...development in this area?
XLAAX said:
Does this mean I can't root at all without tripping the knox yet?
If so is there any sort of...development in this area?
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No and no.
If you are worried about knox, then don't root, yet.
But as far as I know, under European laws, Samsung cannot refute warranty even if your knox is tripped.
Read around. Or ask other people from Europe about this. @radicalisto
XLAAX said:
Ah thanks for that. Was reading up on it but couldn't see something as detailed as this.
I'm guessing its saying I can't root without tripping the Knox yet... which is a bummer...
My Baseband ends in MJ7
My build number ends in MK2
Does this mean I can't root at all without tripping the knox yet?
If so is there any sort of...development in this area?
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Fraid not, only way you can root is by tripping KNOX. Now the way Europe handles KNOX warranty is a massive grey area, if you encounter Hardware issues it'll probably get fixed, but don't take that as solid.
My advice, stick with stock for 2-4 weeks, see if you have any HW issues, if not go ahead and trip it only if you want root and/or custom ROMs.
Do a ton of reading in the couple of weeks while you're waiting and look at the issues and risks
Hello, does anybody know if we are close to a potential knox friendly root release for 4.4.2? I know that they pached 4.3 kernel and saferoot will not work on kitkat anymore..but because of this patch, will it be possible to root again while keeping knox 0x0? Or just say goodbye to saferoot and void our waranties?
I am asking because my GT-I9505 is starting to lag because of bloats and i would like to root it, am i waiting for a ''safe root'' that actually never going to be released? if yes im about to use cf autoroot right now.
feel free to express your opinion:good:
The unique way for root the phone is using CF- autoroot at this moment. This method void ur warranty, sorry :highfive:
Joku1981 said:
The unique way for root the phone is using CF- autoroot at this moment. This method void ur warranty, sorry :highfive:
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I already knew that cf root voids warranty. All i ask is if a ''saferoot'' method is now an impossible scenario due to the kernel patch....Or it's not? Any dev here to give an answer? I am sure there are many people waiting anxiously...
Dmoustakas said:
I already knew that cf root voids warranty. All i ask is if a ''saferoot'' method is now an impossible scenario due to the kernel patch....Or it's not? Any dev here to give an answer? I am sure there are many people waiting anxiously...
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I'm telling u that Saferoot worked for android 4.3 and no will all firmwares. Saferoot is dead atm. Do u think are the first asking for it? :highfive:
Joku1981 said:
I'm telling u that Saferoot worked for android 4.3 and no will all firmwares. Saferoot is dead atm. Do u think are the first asking for it? :highfive:
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I know everything you say, I just ask if it is impossible for ''saferoot'' or ''root de la vega'' or any similar root that is be able to bypass knox without tripping it in the near future, not now!....i know that these root methods do NOT work in the present, all i ask is for the near future, that is why i asked for a dev to give us a more specialized answer.
Thank you for your answer but please understand what i say
Cheers
Dmoustakas said:
i ask is for the near future,...
Thank you for your answer but please understand what i say
Cheers
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Of curse in near future the 4.4.2 ROMs will be rooted without tripping the KNOX and warranty flag.
I can assure you that ETA is around 24 months, so what you need to do is to sit and wait.
spamtrash said:
Of curse in near future the 4.4.2 ROMs will be rooted without tripping the KNOX and warranty flag.
I can assure you that ETA is around 24 months, so what you need to do is to sit and wait.
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xD
spamtrash said:
Of curse in near future the 4.4.2 ROMs will be rooted without tripping the KNOX and warranty flag.
I can assure you that ETA is around 24 months, so what you need to do is to sit and wait.
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Sarcasm never helped anyone. Thanks.
Dmoustakas said:
Sarcasm never helped anyone. Thanks.
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Do you want serious approach?
Be my guest. Current circumstances are:
1. Samsung announced about in near future 4.4.3 release for G4;
2. sometime ago S5 was released.
1+2=less and less devs have interest in work with G4 4.4.2, therefore it is very unlikely that it will be any breakthrough, if something universal (like common trick, let's say for Note 3+G4) would emerge, Even Samsung is not approaching the 4.4.2 seriously (known GLONASS bug, problems with data connections, drains etc are remaining unfixed).
Conclusion: because of the above, you can sit and wait, as I stated in previous post, having hope that something may appear.
Hello all,
I searched the forums round and round, and couldn't find my answers so I hope you will be able to help me out.
i'm looking for a new phone and decided I want to go with the S5. that was before i learned about KNOX and it's wonderful ways.
i'm a heavy modder, who will most definitely use a custom recovery and ROM/kernel.
my questions are:
1. would it be possible to flash a custom recovery / rom / kernel / modem despite KNOX being preset?
2. other then getting this 0x1 and voiding my official warranty, are there any other result to this? will something not work?
3. assuming I get an unlocked international phone, is there any need to mess/change my FW? or is that just part of guides for rooting without tripping KNOX ?
Basically, I want to be sure that I could do whatever I want to the phone without getting stuck or turning it unusable because of KNOX. my current phone is a Nexus 4 and it has been heaven. I want to preserve this feeling
thanks for the help guys, appreciate it!
Did you tried Towelroot method for rooting your device? I heard that doesn't trigger knox..
I would imagine my rooting the phone is the least of my worries.
as far as I know - and this is one of my questions - flashing a custom recovery and or rom will 100% trip KNOX.
not that I care, I just need to know if this is true..and my other questions as well
thanks!
A brief answer
If you - as you say "i'm a heavy modder" Samsung phones are not for you
I've heard tales of people having issues flashing modems when knox is triggered. I have not checked that out for myself Joe have I searched any further into the matter.
I plan on breaking knox soon though because screw knox.
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chainbr3ak said:
A brief answer
If you - as you say "i'm a heavy modder" Samsung phones are not for you
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This answer really worries me to be honest.
could you elaborate?
I don't really care about KNOX, and as long as I can mod away and jump back and forth between modems/roms/kernels - I don't care for the warranty.
If indeed there is truth in the matter, and modem flashing will become a problem if KNOX is tripped, then this would be a deal breaker for me on this phone.
anyone care to add more info here?
Amornik said:
This answer really worries me to be honest.
could you elaborate?
I don't really care about KNOX, and as long as I can mod away and jump back and forth between modems/roms/kernels - I don't care for the warranty.
If indeed there is truth in the matter, and modem flashing will become a problem if KNOX is tripped, then this would be a deal breaker for me on this phone.
anyone care to add more info here?
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You can, but you will always have problems like network, connection,calls, bugs and so on
Samsung devices do not provide the old pleasure as previously
Knox killed freedom of developers and people who like customizations
I would really appreciate an answer from someone who knows for sure.
does tripping KNOX disables the option to upgrade/downgrade the modem?
Amornik said:
I would really appreciate an answer from someone who knows for sure.
does tripping KNOX disables the option to upgrade/downgrade the modem?
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No, KNOX tripping is only at the moment a warranty void solution for samsung. its like the flash count flags.
basically if you trip knox. you're already in it. you do what you want
Amornik said:
I would really appreciate an answer from someone who knows for sure.
does tripping KNOX disables the option to upgrade/downgrade the modem?
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I bought my phone with ANCE firmware and the KNOX was tripped in the first hour by CF-AutoRoot. Now I'm on ANG2, flashed with Odin and the modem is updated correctly.
Dark_Avenger said:
I bought my phone with ANCE firmware and the KNOX was tripped in the first hour by CF-AutoRoot. Now I'm on ANG2, flashed with Odin and the modem is updated correctly.
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Now i'm a bit confused when you say you upgrade the FW, you mean the modem baseband, right ?
Amornik said:
Now i'm a bit confused when you say you upgrade the FW, you mean the modem baseband, right ?
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Exactly, but with full stock image flush (including bootloader). The full stock tar.md5 form sammobile includes the modem/bootloader/rom. I think that the important thing is to have a modem which is compatible with the bootloader (same version). Didn't try to mix different bootloader/modem(baseband) versions.
Tripping KNOX will only disable the feature which allows you to store some data on a encrypted part of the device (Mostly comercial use) when KNOX is tripped any data stored on the 'special' partition is destroyed.
So there are only 2 things that will be affected, your warranty (Not a problem in Europe) and the special partition that I explained earlier.
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Thanks guys, excellent replies !
So...I did it !
I went and bought a brand new S5, and tripped KNOX within the hour. Man, did it feel sooo good !
custom recovery up, rom up, here we go!
Hello,
I was wondering if the application "kingroot" is a good and trustable option to trust my device?
I also saw a site "oneclickroot.com" that looked intresting but after research I saw it's not trustable that they are out of your money.
Or what would you guys advice me?
It's not for intalling roms and so on. Just for other options that I want to root my device.
Greetings
CF-Auto-Root. It's the only way to go. And you can't without a PC.
ah owkey, and "kingroot" is unsafe then?
Oh and what about unrooting the device is that also possible with cf auto root?
And what about towelroot??
http://gs4.wonderhowto.com/how-to/root-any-samsung-galaxy-s4-one-click-0155622/
Avanox said:
And what about towelroot??
http://gs4.wonderhowto.com/how-to/root-any-samsung-galaxy-s4-one-click-0155622/
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Towelroot will simply not work on 5.0 (will reboot the phone after a while from clicking "make it ra1n" but no root access delivered)
For 4.4 you need GNF1 or older kernel for it to work - see HERE if you have newer version but still KK.
Ah ok and kingroot is also no option?
I m searching for the easyest way.
And is your way also possible to unroot?
The easiest way is CF-Autoroot, period. Flash it with the Odin software, let it deliver its payload, and you're done. If you want to unroot afterward, simply uninstall SuperSU.
Ah owkey so it's possible to unroot the device.
Will my warranty then not be rooted.
It's about galaxy s4
Some people talk about "trig Knox flag to 0x1?"
What is that???
Is it something with the warranty???
Because I don't want that my warranty is woided.
If I use your method and I must remove it with time the root.
Is this the application that I will need to reset the trig knox flag to 0x0 ???
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway
Greetings
I believe it was @zelendel who brought this up on another thread, but he asks people what root is and why they need it. Since you're clearly new at this, I'm taking a page from his book.
1. What is root?
2. Why do you need root?
If you cannot answer both questions, you have no business nor need of rooting your S4. That said, there is an entire thread on Knox in the General forum that you should be reading if you want to know more. However, regardless of the methods used, if you root the Knox flag will be tripped. Once tripped, it stays tripped. There is no way to reset it, period.
Avanox said:
Ah owkey so it's possible to unroot the device.
Will my warranty then not be rooted.
It's about galaxy s4
Some people talk about "trig Knox flag to 0x1?"
What is that???
Is it something with the warranty???
Because I don't want that my warranty is woided.
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Knox is some kind of security crap from Samsung. You can find more about it in the s4 general section or by googling it.
Knox default status is 0x0.
Tripping knox to 0x1 will voind your warranty.
1. rooting the the device is to have acces to the root of the phone so you can do more with your phone.
2. I want to root it because I want to have following options enabled at my phone.
* Moving programs to my sd card (not possible anymore without rooting)
* More control over 3G/4G/Wifi/Gps (from my computer) when phone is lost
* Set a security code on the phone factory reset (with avast root edition)
* Using less battery to let greenpower auto disable the 3G or wifi and so on.
At the moment this are the most important things for me.
Flashing roms and so on doesn't intrest me now , because everything is working fine.
Greetings Avanox
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I believe it was @zelendel who brought this up on another thread, but he asks people what root is and why they need it. Since you're clearly new at this, I'm taking a page from his book.
1. What is root?
2. Why do you need root?
If you cannot answer both questions, you have no business nor need of rooting your S4. That said, there is an entire thread on Knox in the General forum that you should be reading if you want to know more. However, regardless of the methods used, if you root the Knox flag will be tripped. Once tripped, it stays tripped. There is no way to reset it, period.
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Fantastic. The reason I asked was to get you to slow down a bit and think about what you're doing. Your previous posts in the thread were all over the place and gave the impression that you didn't know what you were doing.
Back to Knox, do you still have a warranty on the S4? Most units will be out of warranty, in which case it won't matter if you trip the Knox flag. If you're trying to preserve your warranty, it probably will not be possible due to changes to Android.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Fantastic. The reason I asked was to get you to slow down a bit and think about what you're doing. Your previous posts in the thread were all over the place and gave the impression that you didn't know what you were doing.
Back to Knox, do you still have a warranty on the S4? Most units will be out of warranty, in which case it won't matter if you trip the Knox flag. If you're trying to preserve your warranty, it probably will not be possible due to changes to Android.
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Well yes I do have 2 year warranty because I did bought the galaxy s4 just 2 weeks ago, that's why I don't want to root it.
But if I could root it and still have the warranty on one or other way or set it back to normal , well that changes everything.
There are to much cool featers with this rooting stuff.
And also because I can't copy any files anymore to the sd card , stupidest change in android I've seen :'o
Greetings Avanox
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Fantastic. The reason I asked was to get you to slow down a bit and think about what you're doing. Your previous posts in the thread were all over the place and gave the impression that you didn't know what you were doing.
Back to Knox, do you still have a warranty on the S4? Most units will be out of warranty, in which case it won't matter if you trip the Knox flag. If you're trying to preserve your warranty, it probably will not be possible due to changes to Android.
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Ah owkey np.
Well yes I do have 2 year warranty because I did bought the galaxy s4 just 2 weeks ago, that's why I don't want to root it.
But if I could root it and still have the warranty on one or other way or set it back to normal , well that changes everything.
There are to much cool featers with this rooting stuff.
And also because I can't copy any files anymore to the sd card , stupidest change in android I've seen :'o
Greetings Avanox
So apparently you're still on Android 4.4.2, since Android 5.x removed the MicroSD card restriction. Is that correct?
As long as you are NOT on Android 5.x, you can root without tripping Knox, by downgrading the bootloader and modem to an earlier version, then running Towelroot. The drawback is that you won't be able to upgrade to Android 5.x. OTA updates won't function, and using Odin to upgrade wipes the /system partition, which will cost you root.
Regardless of the warranty, I personally would trip Knox and not lose any sleep over it.
Hey
Sorry for my double post.
Euh no, android 5.0.1 was already pre installed on this phone.
It is galaxy s4 black edition gt-i9515
Hmm maybe I must wait for a moment maybe there will come new safer methods
Greetings
The fact you have a value edition S4 changes things. You might as well flash CF-Autoroot now, because there are no safe methods for you. There are no custom ROMs either, but I digress.
@darrendude1: Rule number 1 of this site is to search before you post. The entire reason the rule is present is to avoid having people ask the same questions over and over again, simply because the question has likely been already answered. It applies regardless of whether you are a noob, senior member, recognized developer, or any other title the site may bestow.
In the case of the OP, you clearly didn't read the thread, because I explained to the OP exactly why I asked the questions. He understood why I asked them, and from there we have continued the conversation. To a noob, I would hope they would take rule 1 to heart, and actually did some research into what root is so they could actually explain why they think they need it.
Hi, I love this phone, but root has spoiled me. There are so many things missing from my device that require root, the most important of all, my precious adblocker :crying:
I know about proxy ad blocking but that doesn't work very well..
My question is, if I do root my phone, will I be able to unroot it and make it look like it was never rooted in case I need to return it while its still in warranty? I was able to do that with my Galaxy S4 by resetting some counters and flashing stock ROM, warranty guys didn't find out and I got my phone replaced. I'm not sure this will be the case with S7 Edge though, maybe Samsung found out ways to make this harder, I searched through google and I found no answers to this question.
re: un-rooting
KoKauH said:
Hi, I love this phone, but root has spoiled me. There are so many things missing from my device that require root, the most important of all, my precious adblocker :crying:
I know about proxy ad blocking but that doesn't work very well..
My question is, if I do root my phone, will I be able to unroot it and make it look like it was never rooted in case I need to return it while its still in warranty? I was able to do that with my Galaxy S4 by resetting some counters and flashing stock ROM, warranty guys didn't find out and I got my phone replaced. I'm not sure this will be the case with S7 Edge though, maybe Samsung found out ways to make this harder, I searched through google and I found no answers to this question.
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After rooting if you want to unroot all you do is go
into your app drawer and uninstall the supersu app
and reboot the phone and you will be unrooted.
Don't worry about warranty, they don't even check
for root.
Good luck,
Have a great day!
Misterjunky said:
After rooting if you want to unroot all you do is
using a file manager or explorer go into your
app drawer and uninstall the supersu app and
reboot the phone and you will be unrooted.
Don't worry about warranty, they don't even check
for root.
Good luck,
Have a great day!
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That differs from country to country.
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Misterjunky said:
After rooting if you want to unroot all you do is
using a file manager or explorer go into your
app drawer and uninstall the supersu app and
reboot the phone and you will be unrooted.
Don't worry about warranty, they don't even check
for root.
Good luck,
Have a great day!
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Hmm, I'm not sure I want to risk it, I remember on my S4 there were some warnings while the phone boots - https://imgur.com/3Eoedfg , which had to be removed before I return it since all they had to do to check if the device is rooted is turning on the phone. Will I be able to do the same thing with S7 Edge?
when u root u trigger the knox counter, and there's no way to return it to 0
technically, with a knox counter 0x1 you already lose ur warranty, but not all countries look for that thing, so check how warranty works in your country
QBerto said:
when u root u trigger the knox counter, and there's no way to return it to 0
technically, with a knox counter 0x1 you already lose ur warranty, but not all countries look for that thing, so check how warranty works in your country
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Thanks for your answer, I'm not sure where to check for how warranties work in my country. When I search in google all I get is info on what Knox warranty void means. I live in London UK, and this is where I replaced my phone that was 0x1 on its KNOX counter which gives me a little hope that they do not check this.
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Thanks for your answer, I'm not sure where to check for how warranties work in my country. When I search in google all I get is info on what Knox warranty void means. I live in London UK, and this is where I replaced my phone that was 0x1 on its KNOX counter which gives me a little hope that they do not check this.
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Don't believe me because I'm not totally sure, but I remember a thread here a while ago (maybe a month after S7 came out) where this knox thing was discussed, and I'm pretty sure an user from UK said that in fact samsung uk doesn't check knox warranty, maybe looking for that thread helps you, the thread was somthing about rooting or knox warranty
QBerto said:
Don't believe me because I'm not totally sure, but I remember a thread here a while ago (maybe a month after S7 came out) where this knox thing was discussed, and I'm pretty sure an user from UK said that in fact samsung uk doesn't check knox warranty, maybe looking for that thread helps you, the thread was somthing about rooting or knox warranty
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Thanks for your help, I will look for this thread but even if they check for it, I might end up rooting my phone soon anyway. I didn't believe life with stock could be that hard