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Through all this fog, let's find a glimmer of hope.

Okay, we DEFINITELY know that ATT (as expected), buzzkilled the SH*T out of the accessories for the Atrix. But, let's see possibilites of the future.
First off, I believe the phone can still be $149 if bought from CostCo/Bestbuy with the 2 year contract (hence, the proof of pictures and Amazon), and $199 through ATT. The accessory docks though... yeah, blew us out of the water.
Although, it's a tad bit early to say the least, to give up on these accessories (as for most people, the REAL deal killer is ATT's idiotic mindset that it is considered tethering your phone to an object that works only as good as my flashlight (laptop dock)). We have lots of brilliant minds waiting to get their hands on the dock (hopefully, if the pricing still wasn't enough to kill it), and there may be possible solutions for not having to get the tethering add-on price to it.
We all know many of us here already tether with our grandfather unlimited smartphone plan, what's the loss in trying it out with webtop.
Prerequisities:
We would have to find ways to buy the laptop dock not through ATT so they don't force change our precious current plans
Ideal:
We can use the laptop dock (regardless of price paid for the accessory) and we wouldn't have to be paying for the tethering add-on.
Possible Problems:
ATT and Motorola have figured out a way to "lock" laptop dock usage without the tethering plan. I've not the slightest clue as to how they will do it, but it's very possible.
Possible Solution:
Some devs find a way to bypass those requirements and we'd be able to use the dock scott-free. After that, we can treat it as how we treat how we tether our laptops.
So, we can look up to this, buy the Atrix for 149 or 199 JUST for now, and hope that in a couple of months there will be a solution to this madness. Hell, ATT may put it on sale because of low sell rate, or just competitive pricing, and by then some devs have figured out some ROMs that let us use the webtop app.
NOT ALL IS LOST YET GUYS..... WE DON'T NEED ATT!

Mark my words, bootloader will be locked far worse than on DroidX. They will encrypt the **** out of it.
This is the last straw, I'm spending my last days with AT&T and switching to VZW with MUCH better network, LTE, Xoom and Bionic.

I mean, it's still a bad ass phone by itself. I didn't plan on getting the docks either way, so I'll take my Atrix along with my unlimited data and have one of the best phones out there spec wise

antioch216 said:
I mean, it's still a bad ass phone by itself. I didn't plan on getting the docks either way, so I'll take my Atrix along with my unlimited data and have one of the best phones out there spec wise
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My thoughts, exactly (well, I don't have an unlimited data plan, but it's still a bad ass phone, and its price is OK).

PuerkitoBio said:
My thoughts, exactly (well, I don't have an unlimited data plan, but it's still a bad ass phone, and its price is OK).
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It's still a really good phone. Basically a bionic with 1gb ram and finger scanner.
What happened to the 1gb ram thing is it actually 1 gb ram.
If not can some developers hack it so all the 1gb is used for android?

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you can be all pissed off at AT&T and be pessimistic about everything or you can take it for what it is.... a very powerful phone with a great display, lots of memory, lots of battery etc.

DarkDvr said:
Mark my words, bootloader will be locked far worse than on DroidX. They will encrypt the **** out of it. Xoom and Bionic.
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The Xoom and Bionic won't be locked down? Weird reasoning.

opensourcefan said:
x4
you can be all pissed off at AT&T and be pessimistic about everything or you can take it for what it is.... a very powerful phone with a great display, lots of memory, lots of battery etc.
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And a useless, horribly expensive laptop dock. Tethering? Hell no.
I'm torn, man. Pissed at the situation, but torn on what to do.
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For me, the glimmer of hope is that the most powerful and impressive phone to date can be bought on contract for $150-$200.
I never had a use for either dock.

SoberGuy said:
And a useless, horribly expensive laptop dock. Tethering? Hell no.
I'm torn, man. Pissed at the situation, but torn on what to do.
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yep I agree, IF the dock is not around $150 it's too much BUT I would forget about it and just look at the phone by itself. If alone the phone is not enough then I say move on, meaning, wait for a better phone to hit in a month or so. To me the phone alone seems like a great phone...as long as it itself is not too expensive... Time will tell I guess for all of us.
It is easier to be positive in my neck of the woods though cause I don't think Bell will block sideloading and tethering etc..

opensourcefan said:
yep I agree, IF the dock is not around $150 it's too much BUT I would forget about it and just look at the phone by itself. If alone the phone is not enough then I say move on, meaning, wait for a better phone to hit in a month or so. To me the phone alone seems like a great phone...as long as it itself is not too expensive... Time will tell I guess for all of us.
It is easier to be positive in my neck of the woods though cause I don't think Bell will block sideloading and tethering etc..
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They didn't block sideloading for Samsung's Galaxy S. Can't see why they'd do it for the Atrix. And waiting for a better phone in Canada may take way more than a month The only other "big phone" announced is Telus' Desire HD! That's so 2010...

The reason the laptop dock will require tethering is because it uses a full desktop Firefox browser, hence you will be loading full desktop websites. If you were to use your standard dataplan, loading full desktop websites will immediately eat into your data usage.
My $.02.

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The reason the laptop dock will require tethering is because it uses a full desktop Firefox browser, hence you will be loading full desktop websites. If you were to use your standard dataplan, loading full desktop websites will immediately eat into your data usage.
My $.02.
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nope...don't buy it....if that was the case why doesn't the multimedia dock "need" tethering...because you can use the same full firefox browser on that....

xamievilx said:
nope...don't buy it....if that was the case why doesn't the multimedia dock "need" tethering...because you can use the same full firefox browser on that....
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Yep, that's ATT counterproducing itself. It's stupidity at it's finest.
I can picture how ATT thought about the pricing:
"Oh hey, the internet is mostly excited about the laptop dock and we are getting such a huge fanbase on our Atrix... Let's jack up the price of the laptop dock and add the so-called tethering on it... that'll DEFINITELY kill their joy."

amnigo said:
For me, the glimmer of hope is that the most powerful and impressive phone to date can be bought on contract for $150-$200.
I never had a use for either dock.
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Yea, if you aren't interested in the laptop dock then the phone is still a legit deal; I really, really wanted it though and the fact that it requires a tethering plan eliminates the possibilty of me geting it.
Captivate 2.2.1 Paragon

DarkDvr said:
Mark my words, bootloader will be locked far worse than on DroidX. They will encrypt the **** out of it.
This is the last straw, I'm spending my last days with AT&T and switching to VZW with MUCH better network, LTE, Xoom and Bionic.
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So efing true, But Im not going to CDMA, prob gonna wait for the Pyramid for TMOBILE

PuerkitoBio said:
They didn't block sideloading for Samsung's Galaxy S. Can't see why they'd do it for the Atrix.
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I realize you're talking about Bell here, but after talking to some folks with AT&T, I can confirm that sideloading is blocked on the Atrix, at least the AT&T version.

corneliusm said:
I realize you're talking about Bell here, but after talking to some folks with AT&T, I can confirm that sideloading is blocked on the Atrix, at least the AT&T version.
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It was on my Captivate, too. Until I got home and fixed that.
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johnnydeathmatch said:
It was on my Captivate, too. Until I got home and fixed that.
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Yeah, it's easy to fix using Sideload Wonder Machine or Droid Explorer.

xamievilx said:
nope...don't buy it....if that was the case why doesn't the multimedia dock "need" tethering...because you can use the same full firefox browser on that....
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I agree. I think the reasoning for the tethering requirement is quite simple: economics.
Look at it this way: If Motorola prices the dock at $500, and AT&T subsidizes the price down to $300 (if bought as a package), where will the $200 come from? Obviously it isn't in their interest to give away something for nothing, and AT&T obviously subsidizes devices in exchange for a contract. So I'm sure AT&T is figuring that the $200 discount should be made up for by paying for tethering.
The fact that Moto thinks the dock is worth $500 is still idiotic, however. The real dealbreaker of the tethering plan is the loss of unlimited data that's required for those of us that have it.
I would bet that the laptop dock drops in price pretty rapidly, especially since AT&T/Motorola are going to sell about four of them at that price.

Sprint Note 4 thread

Looks like we now have official model number, rumors confirmed SM-N910P
www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N910PZKESPR
...anybody get any responses yet from the pre-registration?

I have not yet. I even check the spam box.

lovekeiiy said:
I have not yet. I even check the spam box.
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Right. I'm hoping, since sprint supposedly is the only carrier that currently has signed up for VR and Note 4, that they do some sort of deal on the two for early adopters.

Can't wait for this. My s3 needs to be retired
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I'm only seeing black and white colors

ohbreeeezy said:
I'm only seeing black and white colors
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You wanted the pink?

fatboypup said:
You wanted the pink?
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Bronze Gold

evolone said:
Right. I'm hoping, since sprint supposedly is the only carrier that currently has signed up for VR and Note 4, that they do some sort of deal on the two for early adopters.
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I suspect we won't see any notifications till October. My guess, the phone will probably release around mid-October and they'll start preorders about two weeks prior to release. The good news is that since Samsung has a page on the variant and a model number, It probably going through the FCC review, if not already, and supports an October release.
As the VR headset, I'm not sold on it. I think it'll be interesting device, but I think it'll be very limited in support. I just can't see it having a large enough install base to make it popular for a lot developers to devote time to develop or modify applications for it. And the $200US price tag seems high for a device that may so limited. It's only usable, as we know thus far, just on the phone. No external power source, so just your phone's battery. No way to use with your PC for those games. In fact, there was an article I read that showed that getting an Octulus for the PC was cheaper than the Note 4 and VR. If they throw it in free, I'll get one. If it was $50 or less, most likely, over $100, not likely.
Plus, I wonder how the VR works. I have issues--lazy eye and colorblindness--so I have no idea if it'll work for me. The new 3D technology does not work at all for me. I have 3D TV and Playstation3, and got the active 3D glasses to check out. The 3D did not work at all. I only saw a lower resolution picture since the 3D tech uses one's cross reference between the two eyes to create the depth perception. I use one eye significant more over the other. There's a reason why I've taken a few baseballs to the throat; yes it hurt. So, on the top of the support, you can understand my skepticism for my own potential experience with it.
I'm actually more curious about the S Gear in regards to the US or Sprint. I think that may be more a more useful device. I would have preferred it to run Android, or Android Wear. I like the hardware it's bringing, and hope it'll bring manufactures to do similar. My other concerns with it, will it work with devices that do not have TouchWiz? What about the glass? Is it crystal like a good watch, or some kind of gorilla glass. Watches tend to get scratched if they're any kind of glass. If they have some kind of bundle where they offer the Gear S on the cheap side, say about $100, I would probably go with something like that.
Ah, it's exciting times for new toy(s).

lovekeiiy said:
As the VR headset, I'm not sold on it. I think it'll be interesting device,...
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It'll probably work for you since the device shows both eyes live feed (no shutter/no anaglyph). Also there are a bunch of programs that allow you stream PC games to the phone. They are not samsung supported/designed products but they do work (TriDef3D for example, there are also a bunch of android games that support the splitview 3D) I currently have a note 2 and built a custom "google cardboard" vr headset and it works great but the resolution is not so great. So, at least for me, I am accustomed to this type of headset and enjoy it quite a bit for games like Skyrim. In short, you can do everything with an android phone (any of them) that you can do with the Oculus, as there is software and hardware (DIY for most, but we have Galaxy VR now) that supports it.
Also, all US variants of the Note 4 have passed FCC as of a few days ago.

evolone said:
... Also, all US variants of the Note 4 have passed FCC as of a few days ago.
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that is excellent news. I hadn't heard Verizon and a couple other hadn't going through yet, but ATT and Sprint had.
And if what you say is true about the VR and my vision, that would be excellent. There's nothing like handing over the 3D glasses to my mother and asking, "is this working? Do you see a 3D picture" And her response, "yes, and it's so cool. wow look at the sky.." it should be noted, this has been the case with most 3D stuff such as 3D rides. The old 3D tech with the blue and red paper glasses worked a little bit, but I've never had that in your face image coming out of the screen. The sad part, if it actually works and does so well, I would probably buy just because of that fact.

Im eligible to upgrade now with Sprint but Should i get in on preorder list or wait until black friday to order the phone with deep discount price? decision decision..

SptMogul said:
Im eligible to upgrade now with Sprint but Should i get in on preorder list or wait until black friday to order the phone with deep discount price? decision decision..
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Somebody correct me if I'm wrong here, I'm just going on what I've observed in the past. I've never noticed any savings during holiday season/black friday on phones (maybe the lower end / not as popular ones to get more subscriptions) but the newly released high-end phones usually don't get discounts (the year old Note 3 probably will get a liquidation price). I thought that's why manufacturers released phones around this time of the year is because people "have money" or are willing to spend less frugally than other times in the year, meaning full price on the phone. If you're buying the phone without subscription discount (~$800), the full price/non-contract phone might be discounted during the holidays.

SptMogul said:
Im eligible to upgrade now with Sprint but Should i get in on preorder list or wait until black friday to order the phone with deep discount price? decision decision..
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If you want to wait, why not wait. What's the worst that will happen? You won't get the phone on release day?
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Somebody correct me if I'm wrong here, I'm just going on what I've observed in the past. I've never noticed any savings during holiday season/black friday on phones (maybe the lower end / not as popular ones to get more subscriptions) but the newly released high-end phones usually don't get discounts (the year old Note 3 probably will get a liquidation price). I thought that's why manufacturers released phones around this time of the year is because people "have money" or are willing to spend less frugally than other times in the year, meaning full price on the phone. If you're buying the phone without subscription discount (~$800), the full price/non-contract phone might be discounted during the holidays.
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A quick search showed that a number of popular phones were discounted during Black Friday the past 2 years.
http://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/shopping/2013/best-black-friday-samsung-galaxy-note-3-deals/
http://dealnews.com/features/black-friday/predictions/smartphones/

If I could have held out on my upgrade. Got the S5 a week after release nowni want the note4 lol maybe I could just sell myS5 and my old S3 and get it

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I'm a Verizon customer and want to jump ship. Sprint note 4 should have an unlocked bootloader if history repeats itself. Any long time Sprint customers want to fil me in on some pointers? Which plan is the best? Throttling on certain plans? Etc. Etc. I do have Sprint lte in my area soooo I'm very tempted.

droidrev71 said:
I'm a Verizon customer and want to jump ship. Sprint note 4 should have an unlocked bootloader if history repeats itself. Any long time Sprint customers want to fil me in on some pointers? Which plan is the best? Throttling on certain plans? Etc. Etc. I do have Sprint lte in my area soooo I'm very tempted.
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If you're looking for an individual plan then sprint is going to be offering a $60 unlimited everything plan with a note 4 purchase.
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droidrev71 said:
I'm a Verizon customer and want to jump ship. Sprint note 4 should have an unlocked bootloader if history repeats itself. Any long time Sprint customers want to fil me in on some pointers? Which plan is the best? Throttling on certain plans? Etc. Etc. I do have Sprint lte in my area soooo I'm very tempted.
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If you're looking for an individual plan then sprint is going to be offering a $60 unlimited everything plan with a note 4 purchase.
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thearch1tect said:
If you're looking for an individual plan then sprint is going to be offering a $60 unlimited everything plan with a note 4 purchase.
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Isn't that one throttled (optimized)? I think the Framily isn't. On Verizon I can swap my SIM around into any phone with no issues at any time. Can you do that with Sprint too?

droidrev71 said:
Isn't that one throttled (optimized)? I think the Framily isn't. On Verizon I can swap my SIM around into any phone with no issues at any time. Can you do that with Sprint too?
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I don't believe it is throttled. The framily plan doesn't exist anymore. The new family plans are called family share pack and they have a bucket of 20gb that you share so not unlimited.
The quickest way to swap phones on sprint is by logging into your account and entering the imei of the new phone. Takes just a minute or two but not as simple as swapping sims.
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I don't believe it is throttled. The framily plan doesn't exist anymore. The new family plans are called family share pack and they have a bucket of 20gb that you share so not unlimited.
The quickest way to swap phones on sprint is by logging into your account and entering the imei of the new phone. Takes just a minute or two but not as simple as swapping sims.
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I just actually read in the fine print that the bandwidth is optimized. There are still Framily plans they just aren't advertised. Thanks for the SIM swap info that helps cause a person at Sprint said I needed to come in the Swype.

[Q] Is it worth getting the Droid Turbo?

I'm coming from an older Motorola Droid phone (Bionic) and I was wondering if this phone is worth the money compared to any other phone on the market? I have an unlimited data package so whatever phone I get i'm going to have to buy full price and i'm just trying to figure out if I should look elsewhere for a new phone?

If you're paying full price I'd do a Droid MAXX (XT1080M) from swappa for $240 or so. You get most of the turbo experience (battery life, active notifications, etc) for less than half the price.
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I'm quite happy with mine. Granted, I haven't had reason to test the camera a whole lot and hear mixed reviews about it. Otherwise everything else is outstanding.

Heavy usage since sunday.
I love this phone. I would recommend getting it. Ive had my Turbo since Sunday and have only charged it once. The screen is amazing. A majority of anyones complaints are things that will be fixed via updates. The only reason i almost didnt get my Turbo is because i hate waiting for exploits to come out. Fortunately i dont think i even need to root this phone to satisfy my needs. Its been running 4.4.4 flawlessly for me and ive been nonstop video recording, web browsing, and navigation w/ bluetooth music in my car.
I managed to get 30 hours on one charge with 5 hours screen on time. Thats insane coming from an S4.
This phone also comes with a free replacement if the screen breaks.

Coming from the M7 I can say that I'm not sure its worth the $650+ for this device. I'm in the same boat with unlimited data and decided to purchase the phone outright.
The big 3 for me are battery life, screen, and pure speed of the turbo. The battery life is amazing. Its weird going to bed sitting with 50%+ battery after being unplugged for 17 hours. But my HTC m7 was around 15ish so I'm not sure of the benefit if the longer battery life as battery life hasn't been an issue. The screen is clearer sure and the speed is quicker but I'm not sure its $650 quicker.

I came from a Galaxy S3 so, for me, the difference is insane

I think it depends on what you value in a phone. I'm coming from a Galaxy Nexus which ran stock 4.4.4. I'm definitely missing some of the features like Google's Caller ID and dialer search. The camera on the Turbo has not really impressed me with it's laggy shutter. I don't know how I will feel about not having an unlocked bootloader until this phone is left behind on updates. On the other hand, the phone is ridiculously fast has an amazing screen and great battery life. I bought it outright to keep my unlimited data and I'm happy so far.

I do miss caller ID, not going to lie

I dont think caller ID went anywhere
xkape said:
I do miss caller ID, not going to lie
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I still have caller ID on my Droid Turbo, transferred over from my S4. Its a completely redesigned app from verizon.

Maybe I'm missing turning on an option or something. I was running KitKat on my S3 and if a person called, it always showed me their name and the icon for them was the state they were calling from

Definitely
Me and my whole family had the Droid Bionic and switched to the Turbo. We decided to renew our plan to get the cheaper price, losing the unlimited and going to 30GB (6 devices). I love the phone and so far it hasn't lagged. For the AnTuTu Benchmark I got 44942, which is the better than the average for any other phone.

Screen Replacement
ccheww said:
I love this phone. I would recommend getting it. Ive had my Turbo since Sunday and have only charged it once. The screen is amazing. A majority of anyones complaints are things that will be fixed via updates. The only reason i almost didnt get my Turbo is because i hate waiting for exploits to come out. Fortunately i dont think i even need to root this phone to satisfy my needs. Its been running 4.4.4 flawlessly for me and ive been nonstop video recording, web browsing, and navigation w/ bluetooth music in my car.
I managed to get 30 hours on one charge with 5 hours screen on time. Thats insane coming from an S4.
This phone also comes with a free replacement if the screen breaks.
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Taken from the Verizon Press release
"DROID Turbo customers who experience a damaged screen during their 2 year contract can replace it once for free. Customers who purchase through Verizon Edge are also eligible."
I read that like it means only people on the upgrade cycle when buying the phone. My verizon rep didn't know for sure, which usually is a bad sign. If your rep tells you that you can buy at full price and get screen replacement, try to get it in writing or actually show you the text.
Also the phone trade in $100 credit is not valid on full retail, FYI.

Thanks everybody for the information. I bought a Droid Turbo 64GB today. So far i'm loving this phone. All I need now is a root method and i'll be completely satisfied.

I went into Verizon for two minutes tonight just to see the size of the phone and the ballistic backing. I liked it. Slightly larger than my Droid Maxx. Didn't check anything else out when they said they no longer offer the device payment plan.
I will hold out for a price drop, Developer Edition, or a Nexus 6.

Coming from a bionic, you will be STUNNED by the difference.
Phone is awesome, no complaints (well, except missing simultaneous voice ans data, but the updste in a few weeks will resolve that).
Though, if you're completely budget concious i have to agree with the dude that suggested the maxx on swapp, but to that i would add ebay and MAKE SURE YOU GET THE 32GB ONE NOT THE DOWNGRADED 16GB MODEL. And when i say downgraded, im not only talking about the memory, they downgraded the build quality too.

bwheelies said:
I went into Verizon for two minutes tonight just to see the size of the phone and the ballistic backing. I liked it. Slightly larger than my Droid Maxx. Didn't check anything else out when they said they no longer offer the device payment plan.
I will hold out for a price drop, Developer Edition, or a Nexus 6.
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What do you mean they don't have a payment plan. Not even on the edge program?

is it worth getting it?
Phone yes
Verizon service? NO!

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What do you mean they don't have a payment plan. Not even on the edge program?
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Edge yes re: payment plan.
Those of us with unlimited data used to be able to do device payment plan. 12 months of payments plus 2$/month finance charge. Stopped it July of 2014.

bwheelies said:
Edge yes re: payment plan.
Those of us with unlimited data used to be able to do device payment plan. 12 months of payments plus 2$/month finance charge. Stopped it July of 2014.
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Motorola does financing if you buy direct from them

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Motorola does financing if you buy direct from them
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Until they come out with a Dev Edition they send you directly to Verizon's website for consumer edition Turbos.

So long Sprint

After 12 yrs and crappy service I finally switched to Verizon.

Im thinking about it too. I been with them 9 years! Finally gonna make the switch either T-Mobile Or Verizon
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good luck
unlimited data and the cheapest service around is better than dropping a couple calls here and there gl and you will most likely be back

errat1c said:
unlimited data and the cheapest service around is better than dropping a couple calls here and there gl and you will most likely be back
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It goes beyond that. He'll my bill went from about $150 for two phone to a magical $286 with no explanation. Sorry not coming back.

doubledragon5 said:
It goes beyond that. He'll my bill went from about $150 for two phone to a magical $286 with no explanation. Sorry not coming back.
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Seems like you should request an explanation. No such thing as something happening for no reason. I have 2 phones, and I pay right around $150.

Wrong place for this thread

sputnik767 said:
Seems like you should request an explanation. No such thing as something happening for no reason. I have 2 phones, and I pay right around $150.
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I have on multiple occasion. Mine use to be around $150. Seems someone fd up and it never got fixed. I tried but told them after 12 yrs no more.

Let me tell you, from first hand experience, Verizon isn't all that. Work started paying for my phone, so I had to make the switch. My wife's is still on Sprint. Her download speeds across the board are faster. Not to mention, Verizon locks the crap down on these phones. If it wasn't a free work phone, I'd still be over on Sprint.

Thinking of making a change

Hello everyone. I currently have a Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 4 and love my phone and what it does. I almost never use the stylus on it so that feature isn't important to me. I've been reading up on the Nexus 6p for months now and with tax returns coming up was thinking of biting the bullet and getting one to swap out my Note 4 for. Before I do that though I wanted to get some feedback from others regarding buying used vs new (if possible), the state of development on a device that's as old as it is (development seems to be going pretty solid from the glimpse into the development threads) and general information regarding the phone and if it's a good idea to make the switch. I use my phone for EVERYTHING. It's the houses WiFi which is extremely important but I don't pay for hotspot usage. Is that unlocked on the ROMs for the Nexus 6p?
Please, any and all input is welcome. I've had this phone for a long time and would like to get my hands on something new (even if it's a phone around the same age). Thank you.
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It's a developers phone so development will always be strong on a nexus phone.
However there are a lot of hardware faults currently known with this phone and as such you shouldn't buy a used one as you won't get the warranty support from google/huawei. And you cannot buy them new anymore due to google releasing their pixel range.

brichardson1991 said:
It's a developers phone so development will always be strong on a nexus phone.
However there are a lot of hardware faults currently known with this phone and as such you shouldn't buy a used one as you won't get the warranty support from google/huawei. And you cannot buy them new anymore due to google releasing their pixel range.
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So if I can find a new one I should go that route? Although Google released the Pixel and pulled them from their store I have seen them in retail stores like Best Buy still (rarely). Buying from a store should still give me a warranty through the store and manufacturer if even for a short period of time shouldn't it?
Thank you for the response.
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wgrant said:
So if I can find a new one I should go that route? Although Google released the Pixel and pulled them from their store I have seen them in retail stores like Best Buy still (rarely). Buying from a store should still give me a warranty through the store and manufacturer if even for a short period of time shouldn't it?
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I would absolutely buy new if you can find one in the capacity that you need. I see BB selling the 32GB version which would be too small for me. The brick and mortar store route would be the safest from a warranty perspective, otherwise it will just be covered by the manufacturer's warranty which from all accounts appears to be really piss poor. Hotspot has always worked well on my device running the stock rom (AT&T).

Also, Newegg still has them in stock. They have a mix of 32, 64, and 128 directly sold by newegg, Brand New. You just have to make sure its shipped and sold by Newegg when purchasing. I purchased mine from Newegg in March

v12xke said:
I would absolutely buy new if you can find one in the capacity that you need. I see BB selling the 32GB version which would be too small for me. The brick and mortar store route would be the safest from a warranty perspective, otherwise it will just be covered by the manufacturer's warranty which from all accounts appears to be really piss poor. Hotspot has always worked well on my device running the stock rom (AT&T).
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I would need at least 64GB since I use my SD card a LOT. I assumed hotspot worked but since I don't pay for hotspot on my plan (most on xda with Sprint note 4 don't) it needs to be unlocked/modded within the ROM somewhere or an app like GalaxyTools needs to be used on the Note 4 in order to use it. Is that not a thing with the Nexus 6p?
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bigblueshock said:
Also, Newegg still has them in stock. They have a mix of 32, 64, and 128 directly sold by newegg, Brand New. You just have to make sure its shipped and sold by Newegg when purchasing. I purchased mine from Newegg in March
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Awesome, thank you. I didn't think about them.
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wgrant said:
I would need at least 64GB since I use my SD card a LOT. I assumed hotspot worked but since I don't pay for hotspot on my plan (most on xda with Sprint note 4 don't) it needs to be unlocked/modded within the ROM somewhere or an app like GalaxyTools needs to be used on the Note 4 in order to use it. Is that not a thing with the Nexus 6p?
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The hotspot has never been an issue on AT&T on the N6P. Someone else will have to confirm whether or not it works on Sprint.

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The hotspot has never been an issue on AT&T on the N6P. Someone else will have to confirm whether or not it works on Sprint.
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I think we may be talking about different things. I'm sure hotspot works without issue. AT&T gives hotspot data on their plans though, Sprint does not (well it does but it's super small). In order to use hotspot without paying for their plan there is a modification done within the ROM (not sure exactly where) that changes the way the hotspot data is reported to the carrier, it shows as regular data instead of hotspot data. I refuse to pay their insane pricing for hotspot usage when I already have unlimited data so having free usage of hotspot is extremely important. If that isn't something done in the Nexus 6p ROMS I made have to skip the phone sadly. Hopefully a Sprint user will come along and weigh in.
I greatly appreciate your input though. The lack of availability on new versions of this phone may put the nail in the coffin unfortunately, we shall see though. Thanks again.
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wgrant said:
So if I can find a new one I should go that route? Although Google released the Pixel and pulled them from their store I have seen them in retail stores like Best Buy still (rarely). Buying from a store should still give me a warranty through the store and manufacturer if even for a short period of time shouldn't it?
Thank you for the response.
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You could go to Fi.google.com, sign up for their cheapest plan ($30/mo) and get one (I'm assuming new and get the warranty). You could cancel the Project Fi service after one month.

mwilliams05 said:
You could go to Fi.google.com, sign up for their cheapest plan ($30/mo) and get one (I'm assuming new and get the warranty). You could cancel the Project Fi service after one month.
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Not a terrible idea. Just pull the SIM out and use the sprint one I would need to order. Curious about the hotspot dilemma though. Seeing a lot of results with people needing the carrier provided hotspot plan with this phone and not so much saying otherwise. I use 200-250GB of data a month so paying for that would be insane.
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brichardson1991 said:
you cannot buy them new anymore due to google releasing their pixel range.
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If you mean new as in from the Play Store, then yes, you are correct. Third party vendors still sell them, though. I bought my brand new in box 128GB 6P from B&H Photo in December 2016 for $549, so it is very possible to buy them new, just not from the Play Store.
Amazon still sells them too, but I would be very weary about ordering from them. I originally ordered my phone from them, but they sent me the wrong color/storage size. The brown box they shipped it in was pristine when it arrived at my house, but the actual white box with the phone in it looked like a dog had chewed on it before they packed it...

You can still buy them new on Amazon as well and you get the one year warranty from Huawei. But definitely don't buy one used. You need the warranty, just in case.

I have a sprint service. If you do not pay for Hotspot, Hotspot cannot be turned on.
But, I have heard that you can if you are rooted, not tested.
There are also apps which let you and are quite popular.

TOTALLYHUMAN said:
I have a sprint service. If you do not pay for Hotspot, Hotspot cannot be turned on.
But, I have heard that you can if you are rooted, not tested.
There are also apps which let you and are quite popular.
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Would you be willing to test a build.prop change for me to see if it'll work or are you not rooted?
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If you mean new as in from the Play Store, then yes, you are correct. Third party vendors still sell them, though. I bought my brand new in box 128GB 6P from B&H Photo in December 2016 for $549, so it is very possible to buy them new, just not from the Play Store.
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Looks like they've discontinued the 128GB on B&H Photo but the 64GB is still on there. May go down that route. Thank you for the site name.
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Would you be willing to test a build.prop change for me to see if it'll work or are you not rooted?
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Sorry not rooted but the apps should work. Search Google, many have almost five star ratings. It will be easier if you do not plan to root.

TOTALLYHUMAN said:
Sorry not rooted but the apps should work. Search Google, many have almost five star ratings. It will be easier if you do not plan to root.
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I always root my phone (been a necessity in the past, maybe not going forward though). Phones aren't cheap though and I have to be able to provide hotspot for my house so I've got to get confirmation from someone on Nexus 6P before I go down the route of getting a phone. Appreciate the input though, I'll take a look into the apps.
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Looks like the build.prop editing on this phone just needs the bootloader unlocked from what I'm reading. That's very different but this is a completely different manufacturer than I'm used to.

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Looks like they've discontinued the 128GB on B&H Photo but the 64GB is still on there. May go down that route. Thank you for the site name.
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What color are you looking for? Only black, silver, and white went up to 128GB. If you're looking to buy a gold 6P, they're only available in 32 or 64 gigs.

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What color are you looking for? Only black, silver, and white went up to 128GB. If you're looking to buy a gold 6P, they're only available in 32 or 64 gigs.
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Black is what I wanted, would have settled for silver. Pretty sure 128GB just wasn't available on B&H
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So here's the thing, there is definitely Hotspot functionality. It will work with sprint 100%. The question is not if the Hotspot functionality will work or not, but if you will be able to turn it on without the carrier charging you. If it has worked before, then it should work.
Also, you said you root your phone. What things do you use root for. I know some apps are root only, but what are the benefits of rooting? Am thinking about it