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I am thinking about getting a nexus7 and these kind of new devices don't have an SD.
Usually the app manager allows me to shift apps to SD. I can also do this with titanium backup at ease.
What happens on no-SD devices? Can I use the 16/32 GB only for music and stuff .. or will app2sd simply shift to this internal ram.
daniello8 said:
I am thinking about getting a nexus7 and these kind of new devices don't have an SD.
Usually the app manager allows me to shift apps to SD. I can also do this with titanium backup at ease.
What happens on no-SD devices? Can I use the 16/32 GB only for music and stuff .. or will app2sd simply shift to this internal ram.
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You will not be able to use app2sd to move stuff because there is no SD card. It simply won't work. Also, on a stock 16 GB Nexus 7 you will have ~13GB free because of the system taking up some of the space. RAM is not for storing programs permanently because it is cleared at boot. You can, however, mount a USB flash drive by using a USB OTG cable and the app stickmount. That is the only way to "add" storage to the device.
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EvanA said:
You will not be able to use app2sd to move stuff because there is no SD card. It simply won't work. Also, on a stock 16 GB Nexus 7 you will have ~13GB free because of the system taking up some of the space. RAM is not for storing programs permanently because it is cleared at boot. You can, however, mount a USB flash drive by using a USB OTG cable and the app stickmount. That is the only way to "add" storage to the device.
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I think there is a misunderstanding .. the 13 GB should not be cleared at boot .. and this is where I would want to put apps instead of the sd. Would that work?
there is a nand flash chip in the nexus 7. on this chip it contains several Partitons / folders.. One of them is /DATA.. IN there is a symlink folder called SD.. this is where your content will be..
its actually data/ media . but this is to give you a idea of how it works.. Thou there is not a sd card in the device the internal storage (user storage space ) is separated from the the /system folders . There is just no external sd ..
SO I think your questions is DOES IT Have user apps/ media/ music storage space .. YES it does.. its Data/ media partion folder..
Hope this helps . the above is only a example paths are not true but close..
Good Luck . Just buy it.. ger 32 gb if you can ..
daniello8 said:
I think there is a misunderstanding .. the 13 GB should not be cleared at boot .. and this is where I would want to put apps instead of the sd. Would that work?
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Correct. The 13 GB is the device's storage, which is where your data/apps go.
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EvanA is correct. N7s simply designate a subdirectory as /sdcard, and that's all that's available for storage on the average unrooted N7. Rooted users can add storage via USB flash drives and memory cards cabled to their N7, but there's only one reasonably easy way to store apps data in true external storage using an N7. That's an app called Directory Bind, for rooted devices.
I think we're getting there but I don't have it yet (feeling dumb). I know I can put music anywhere .. my worries are the apps. I have a desire HD and I am looking at so many apps that memory is full and I have to divert to sd using app2sd. This of course allows me to use much more space for apps than regularly available. I don't need to restore them .. they just work (sd is a bit slower but they work).
How does this work with N7. If it addresses app space to have most of the 32 gig available .. that would be perfect .. then app2sd is definitely not needed.
the app storage space is on the same flash chip as the system and runs at the same fast speed. your apps will run from there as they are installed. Your thinking to much into this..
picture the app storage on the nexus the same as the original storage on your phone.. ONLY MUCH LARGER.. Depending on your phone of course.
32 gb can hold alot of apps . Depending on there data size of course.. Some games like bards tale and horn can consume 2 gb plus data..
Picture a windows computer with 1 hard drive your system is in c/windows folder.. your apps are c/ xxxx c/program files .. but still using the same hard drive . xxx amount of space... Shared .. drive different folders.
There is no need to move nothing.. Well unless you decide to use usb storage.. then well thats a big different. We will skip that for now...
Great .. this is exactly what I was hoping for. Thanks for the heads-up!
Hello guys, my internal storage is running out of space for no apparent reason, so I downloaded DiskUsage to see what's wrong, screenshot is attached, it shows a segment called system data which is taking up around 4gb of space, I use Omega 10, aren't system files supposed to be sharing part of the 16 gbs available internal memory and that's why only around 9 are free? or did I miss something?
Hey man try using this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2468596
I used this on my s3 and it was awesome I turned my 16 GB s3 into a 64 GB s3
reckoner_85 said:
Hello guys, my internal storage is running out of space for no apparent reason, so I downloaded DiskUsage to see what's wrong, screenshot is attached, it shows a segment called system data which is taking up around 4gb of space, I use Omega 10, aren't system files supposed to be sharing part of the 16 gbs available internal memory and that's why only around 9 are free? or did I miss something?
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Did you transfer file from your computer and failed?. if yes.. Go to Setting, More, Storage miscellaneous files find the file that you transfer from your computer and delete.. that will make your storage free saome space..
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Did you transfer file from your computer and failed?. if yes.. Go to Setting, More, Storage miscellaneous files find the file that you transfer from your computer and delete.. that will make your storage free saome space..
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I don't understand the question, as far as I know I had no file transfer issues, besides the data that was taking up the space wasn't visible anywhere on the device storage, anyway I've solved the issue by formatting the internal storage and re-installing rom, but I would still like to know what caused this to happen, DiskUsage now shows only around 400mb used as system data instead of 4000mb, so it's back to normal I guess.
At what percentage ?
Hi I'd like to know at what percentage of storage do we get the " Storage running out" Notification in a regular Android smartphone ?
Hello,i have a lot of HD games which i would like to play on my nexus 7 8gb....i dont have enough memory.I want to know if there is any method to mount the game data folder from usbdrive to internal memory on android 4.2.2. This used to work fine on 4.1.2.
I have tried foldermount and this method: http://mymindsmap.wordpress.com/201...-4-2-2-how-to-run-games-from-external-sdcard/
Is it possible to port nexus player's android m developer preview to NVidia shield tv 16/500 variants ? I would like to test the new internal storage increase feature on the NVidia shield tv
I tested it on the nexus player and i can say that is good. The only one problem is that if you use the external storage as expansion of your internal storage, you can't use it on your pc or on any other device. you can use this crypted external storage only on device that initialize it.
so it's good in terms of performance, but not convenient. I prefer also on Android M like in Android L the app Folder Mount.
You can copy paste all your obb files more easily from and to a pc and at same time you can use it also like a storage for media.
With Folder Mount you can move your apps / games to an sdcard and also to an usb HDD also on Android L, and you can move all apps.
But is a good functionality of Android M. I like it. It is a step forward.
About the port:
The source code of Android M is not completely available now, and the Shield Console is not a Nexus device with all source code in AOSP. This mean that the Shield Console have many proprietary things that Nvidia not publish. So you have to wait for an official firmware before have a custom android M firmware.
zulu99 said:
I tested it on the nexus player and i can say that is good. The only one problem is that if you use the external storage as expansion of your internal storage, you can't use it on your pc or on any other device. you can use this crypted external storage only on device that initialize it.
so it's good in terms of performance, but not convenient. I prefer also on Android M like in Android L the app Folder Mount.
You can copy paste all your obb files more easily from and to a pc and at same time you can use it also like a storage for media.
With Folder Mount you can move your apps / games to an sdcard and also to an usb HDD also on Android L, and you can move all apps.
But is a good functionality of Android M. I like it. It is a step forward.
About the port:
The source code of Android M is not completely available now, and the Shield Console is not a Nexus device with all source code in AOSP. This mean that the Shield Console have many proprietary things that Nvidia not publish. So you have to wait for an official firmware before have a custom android M firmware.
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thank you for your reply, then lets wait till somebody port it, im looking forward to it, now regarding moving app's data to sd, what app can i used and do i need to have root to do that?
zulu99 said:
I tested it on the nexus player and i can say that is good. The only one problem is that if you use the external storage as expansion of your internal storage, you can't use it on your pc or on any other device. you can use this crypted external storage only on device that initialize it.
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Hi mate, can you just clarify, with Android M can you use exteral usb hdd to to extend internal storage or just the micro sd? There seems to be mixed reports.
and is there a guide to do this, is it using the sd?
what software apk files do i need?
thanks
I'm using default option to transfert apps on SdCard (after installing), on menu setting/applications.
does that transfer the big obb/data files?
kyrusdemnati said:
does that transfer the big obb/data files?
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It did with Doom 3. All 4GB transferred to my SD card.
But YMMV depending on the app of course
I have bought Tales From the Borderlands, which BTW plays really nice with the Nvidia-controller. Whereas the app itself is installed on the microSD-card, the game data it self (e.g. the different seasons - and those are several megabytes) will load internally. That's sad.
Apps to externals HDD
ive been trying to figure out how to move apps from the internal memory to an external HDD i alread used the drive to create a TWRP backup, i can also see the drive in ES file explorer but i cant find any apps or method to move app OBB/DATA to an external HDD there are plenty for apps to SD but i need APP to HDD. can anyone shed some light on this? do you have this kind of thing working?
beefy143 said:
ive been trying to figure out how to move apps from the internal memory to an external HDD i alread used the drive to create a TWRP backup, i can also see the drive in ES file explorer but i cant find any apps or method to move app OBB/DATA to an external HDD there are plenty for apps to SD but i need APP to HDD. can anyone shed some light on this? do you have this kind of thing working?
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I believe Apps to USB storage will be available when we get an Android M update for the Shield TV.
any news on android m ?
If you happen to have xposed
Theres a module thats purpose is to "reroute" those internal folder contents to its counterpart on external sd card
Theres no mention of usb harddrive, but those in this situation thats willing to test and find out......
"Change path to internal SD card on OS level! Android Storage API tweaks.
This module changes path to internal SD card.
You can: change path to internal SD which is returned by System API, change path to obb dirs, app files, download dir (you can have everything on SD card!)
Control it in app settings."
[Xposed][MODULE][4.0+] XInternalSD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/xposed-disablesignaturecheck-t2789267
Github
https://github.com/pylerSM/XInternalSD
If there are and it works, im sure future readers in this situation would appreciate the confirmation assuming theres no other way
Xposed
I'll try that out don't have xposed installed yet but I guess that will have to be the next thing on my list.
on full android i use link2sd.
@tailslol
Thanks for the tip with the app:good:
Apps to externals HDD
For apps to HDD you need folder mount tested and working
beefy143 said:
For apps to HDD you need folder mount tested and working
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I made a post about it here on xda in shield android tv general.
Why does Nvidia even keep putting 16GB options in these tablets and STB? I swear 32GB should be the absolute minimum.
Sub-Negro said:
Why does Nvidia even keep putting 16GB options in these tablets and STB? I swear 32GB should be the absolute minimum.
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Anyway the beta 6.0 is comming with native app to SD support.
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Anyway the beta 6.0 is comming with native app to SD support.
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Does the apps to SD support in 6.0 move everything? Obb and Data.
Also will it support moving to USB or external HDD?
If not I would say it's still pretty useless to me.
beefy143 said:
Does the apps to SD support in 6.0 move everything? Obb and Data.
Also will it support moving to USB or external HDD?
If not I would say it's still pretty useless to me.
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Everything,yes but sd only,not USB.
It mount USB as a external device.
There is no "best way" until we can figure out a way to get the Shield TV to support EXT4 file system.
I installed a custom kernel on my Galaxy Note 10.1 v2014 16GB tablet so I can use my 64GB external micro SD as "internal" storage. It works fairly well. It's not perfect, but it works well.
Once I got my tablet to recognize EXT4 file system, I was able to format my micro SD to EXT4 use a Windows app, there are several.
Then, I used Link2SD to mount the card as "internal storage".
My internal storage has only 10gb free when it's stock with no apps installed. I cleaned out the bloat and managed to recover another 0.4gb.
Using Link2SD, I'm able to install another 11gb of apps and games onto my tablet. My real internal storage now is about 8.82gb free. The rest of the data is stored on the micro SD.
For a lot of apps, it's able to store 100% of the app's data onto the micro SD.....I mean 100%!
BUGS:
Because of the way my tablet mounts the micro SD, if I ever have to reboot my tablet, then I have to reboot it twice. First, I do a "hard" reboot". Second, I do a "soft" reboot. The first reboot mounts the micro SD. But, because Links2SD loads before the micro SD mounts, it doesn't see it. So, I do a "soft" reboot, which only reboots the Android UI. Links2SD has a built-in feature to do this. After the soft reboot, Link2SD sees it. You have to buy the paid version to move 100% of the data to the micro SD but it was only $2-3.
Once in a blue moon, my NOVA launcher acts weird. I just do the process above and it resets it.
Without directory linking, which is how Link2SD works, then there is no BEST WAY to do this because there's no way Android will move 100% of the app to the external storage. Link2SD creates symbolic link on the internal storage, so when you look at the App Manager, it still thinks it's internal and even gives you the option to MOVE TO SD but don't do that! It's already on the SD.
So, bottom line, if you want this to work for our Nvidia Shield TV's, then you need to spread awareness to Nvidia and devs here about EXT4 file system support and hope that someone can port it to our machines!
Neo3D said:
There is no "best way" until we can figure out a way to get the Shield TV to support EXT4 file system.
I installed a custom kernel on my Galaxy Note 10.1 v2014 16GB tablet so I can use my 64GB external micro SD as "internal" storage. It works fairly well. It's not perfect, but it works well.
Once I got my tablet to recognize EXT4 file system, I was able to format my micro SD to EXT4 use a Windows app, there are several.
Then, I used Link2SD to mount the card as "internal storage".
My internal storage has only 10gb free when it's stock with no apps installed. I cleaned out the bloat and managed to recover another 0.4gb.
Using Link2SD, I'm able to install another 11gb of apps and games onto my tablet. My real internal storage now is about 8.82gb free. The rest of the data is stored on the micro SD.
For a lot of apps, it's able to store 100% of the app's data onto the micro SD.....I mean 100%!
BUGS:
Because of the way my tablet mounts the micro SD, if I ever have to reboot my tablet, then I have to reboot it twice. First, I do a "hard" reboot". Second, I do a "soft" reboot. The first reboot mounts the micro SD. But, because Links2SD loads before the micro SD mounts, it doesn't see it. So, I do a "soft" reboot, which only reboots the Android UI. Links2SD has a built-in feature to do this. After the soft reboot, Link2SD sees it. You have to buy the paid version to move 100% of the data to the micro SD but it was only $2-3.
Once in a blue moon, my NOVA launcher acts weird. I just do the process above and it resets it.
Without directory linking, which is how Link2SD works, then there is no BEST WAY to do this because there's no way Android will move 100% of the app to the external storage. Link2SD creates symbolic link on the internal storage, so when you look at the App Manager, it still thinks it's internal and even gives you the option to MOVE TO SD but don't do that! It's already on the SD.
So, bottom line, if you want this to work for our Nvidia Shield TV's, then you need to spread awareness to Nvidia and devs here about EXT4 file system support and hope that someone can port it to our machines!
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you are a bit late but this is ok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtPGPBN5PJQ