Hi guys, i know that you problably answered these questions several times already, but i couldn´t find a exact match for what i want to do.
I have an OTG cable and a 4 port USB hub that i´m using for tests. I´m using stock 4.2 and stock kernel.
1- I´d like to add a flash drive or a external usb hard disk as a default storage device, is there any way to do this without external apps? like the N7 had microSD support? I saw a topic where some user was able to do this, but i can´t find it. Can i install games and everything if i do this? None of my FAT32 cflash drives were recognized. NTFS drives paragon NTFS mounted but it was not recognized by system in storage options.
2- Overclock using SET CPU will work as usual even using stock kernel? Which settings do you recommend me to use?
3- As you can see, i´m a noob considering the rooting possibilities, which more do you recommend me to do to fully use the potential of my Nexus 7, i use it mainly for playing games and emulators, surfing internet and watching movies. The only thing i did was modifying the script to run XBOX360 wireless controller perfectly. Any recommendations to rooting i will be very grateful, thanks!
I am thinking about getting a nexus7 and these kind of new devices don't have an SD.
Usually the app manager allows me to shift apps to SD. I can also do this with titanium backup at ease.
What happens on no-SD devices? Can I use the 16/32 GB only for music and stuff .. or will app2sd simply shift to this internal ram.
daniello8 said:
I am thinking about getting a nexus7 and these kind of new devices don't have an SD.
Usually the app manager allows me to shift apps to SD. I can also do this with titanium backup at ease.
What happens on no-SD devices? Can I use the 16/32 GB only for music and stuff .. or will app2sd simply shift to this internal ram.
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You will not be able to use app2sd to move stuff because there is no SD card. It simply won't work. Also, on a stock 16 GB Nexus 7 you will have ~13GB free because of the system taking up some of the space. RAM is not for storing programs permanently because it is cleared at boot. You can, however, mount a USB flash drive by using a USB OTG cable and the app stickmount. That is the only way to "add" storage to the device.
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EvanA said:
You will not be able to use app2sd to move stuff because there is no SD card. It simply won't work. Also, on a stock 16 GB Nexus 7 you will have ~13GB free because of the system taking up some of the space. RAM is not for storing programs permanently because it is cleared at boot. You can, however, mount a USB flash drive by using a USB OTG cable and the app stickmount. That is the only way to "add" storage to the device.
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I think there is a misunderstanding .. the 13 GB should not be cleared at boot .. and this is where I would want to put apps instead of the sd. Would that work?
there is a nand flash chip in the nexus 7. on this chip it contains several Partitons / folders.. One of them is /DATA.. IN there is a symlink folder called SD.. this is where your content will be..
its actually data/ media . but this is to give you a idea of how it works.. Thou there is not a sd card in the device the internal storage (user storage space ) is separated from the the /system folders . There is just no external sd ..
SO I think your questions is DOES IT Have user apps/ media/ music storage space .. YES it does.. its Data/ media partion folder..
Hope this helps . the above is only a example paths are not true but close..
Good Luck . Just buy it.. ger 32 gb if you can ..
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I think there is a misunderstanding .. the 13 GB should not be cleared at boot .. and this is where I would want to put apps instead of the sd. Would that work?
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Correct. The 13 GB is the device's storage, which is where your data/apps go.
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EvanA is correct. N7s simply designate a subdirectory as /sdcard, and that's all that's available for storage on the average unrooted N7. Rooted users can add storage via USB flash drives and memory cards cabled to their N7, but there's only one reasonably easy way to store apps data in true external storage using an N7. That's an app called Directory Bind, for rooted devices.
I think we're getting there but I don't have it yet (feeling dumb). I know I can put music anywhere .. my worries are the apps. I have a desire HD and I am looking at so many apps that memory is full and I have to divert to sd using app2sd. This of course allows me to use much more space for apps than regularly available. I don't need to restore them .. they just work (sd is a bit slower but they work).
How does this work with N7. If it addresses app space to have most of the 32 gig available .. that would be perfect .. then app2sd is definitely not needed.
the app storage space is on the same flash chip as the system and runs at the same fast speed. your apps will run from there as they are installed. Your thinking to much into this..
picture the app storage on the nexus the same as the original storage on your phone.. ONLY MUCH LARGER.. Depending on your phone of course.
32 gb can hold alot of apps . Depending on there data size of course.. Some games like bards tale and horn can consume 2 gb plus data..
Picture a windows computer with 1 hard drive your system is in c/windows folder.. your apps are c/ xxxx c/program files .. but still using the same hard drive . xxx amount of space... Shared .. drive different folders.
There is no need to move nothing.. Well unless you decide to use usb storage.. then well thats a big different. We will skip that for now...
Great .. this is exactly what I was hoping for. Thanks for the heads-up!
My Nexus Player says the storage is full. I've Asphalt 8 and TVMC installed. Both are taking about 4 GB space. I want to keep both. Any ideas?
Haven't tested it but perhaps Foldermount would work if your np is rooted
You could always install the Android M preview and mount a usb stick/drive as Internal storage..
Not sure if M breaks some apps & features though..
waiting for android tv shield to review? can anyone suggest what the advantages of rooting?
can i sideload any apk games to a usb / sd card and play them?
wakkaday said:
waiting for android tv shield to review? can anyone suggest what the advantages of rooting?
can i sideload any apk games to a usb / sd card and play them?
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Sideloading apps can be done without root. I have full android on my shield (using it right now to type this, and as my main computer), but when I ran the stock OS, the main thing I used root for was foldermount. The 16GB version is just too small without it. I was able to move my bigger games to USB Flash or SD card, even when not supported. I also used stickmount to get access to my 500GB hard drive, which made it a very nice media center. Oh, and I changed the DPI because it was just too huge without that. That's just some of what you can do with root.
when you have full android? do you miss out on the nvidia games? or can these still be played
so the foldermount app lets you install full games on an external hd or sd...
and stick mount lets you access the files on a usb? but isnt this possible anyway withouyt full android... oris this some sotrt of server?
To me this is very weird.
I have a Nvidia 16Gb system with a 1 TB USB 3.0 attached.
It is the older system and I have updated it with the recent patch.
I'm trying to get retroarch to work.
When I get to scan for Roms I end up with the folloing:
1) Application Dir
2) Extended Application Dir
3) Internal Memory
4) /
none of those get me to the USB drive. I use MAME4Droid and that app has no issues with finding the Roms.
I'd like to set it up with games that don't use MAME so I'm trying RetroArch.
Thanks for any help
sirelc said:
To me this is very weird.
I have a Nvidia 16Gb system with a 1 TB USB 3.0 attached.
It is the older system and I have updated it with the recent patch.
I'm trying to get retroarch to work.
When I get to scan for Roms I end up with the folloing:
1) Application Dir
2) Extended Application Dir
3) Internal Memory
4) /
none of those get me to the USB drive. I use MAME4Droid and that app has no issues with finding the Roms.
I'd like to set it up with games that don't use MAME so I'm trying RetroArch.
Thanks for any help
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I too have a 1st generation STV. I updated to 5.0 firmware last week. I just was playing with retroarch and I too cannot see my external SDCARD. It was fine before. Other apps see the sdcard fine. Maybe the update broke something in retroarch. Might have to try the latest nightly build on github.