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should i buy zenfone5 or not ??

hello .. m planning to buy a fone n this Asus Zenfone 5 A501CG came to my mind but like wanted to know the opinion of the users of this fone so asking here like wat are the flaws in this and should i buy this or there is some better one u could suggest ?
dont wana spend much coz have samsung note 4 already . but still want atleast 2gb ram fone

Zenfone 2 Laser will be better choice

Just stay away from any phone with Intel chip.

thanks a lot

@SunnyGrewal11 I would recomend you to buy other phones, intel is not the best choice, only if you want to play in emulators, zenfone 5 does an awesome job at psp and other's emulators, I recomend you zenfone 2 laser, or redmi note 3

Yes, but Redmi Note 3's software is a piece of crap. Lots of bloatware and unnecessary options are present. Just wait for Moto G4 Play to arrive at the same price as this. It'll be the best choice. It's going to be launched in a few days (In India).

Never buy a phone with intel processor in it cuz they drain battery faster . Go for moto g4 and dont do the same mistake which i did

nheolinkin said:
Just stay away from any phone with Intel chip.
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yes

should not now!
- intel processor support game not good
- asus not support rom
- low memory
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dienbinhthuong said:
should not now!
- intel processor support game not good
- asus not support rom
- low memory
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What do u mean?? Intel processors support almost all the games on playstore and theres alot of custom roms available for zenfone 5 Infact i have RRMM right now and as for low memory u can simply buy a micoSD card

SunnyGrewal11 said:
hello .. m planning to buy a fone n this Asus Zenfone 5 A501CG came to my mind but like wanted to know the opinion of the users of this fone so asking here like wat are the flaws in this and should i buy this or there is some better one u could suggest ?
dont wana spend much coz have samsung note 4 already . but still want atleast 2gb ram fone
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Consider buying some other phone. This is already an old model.

Don't buy this device - MediaTek CPU

No development towards this device.. it is a mediatek device..

You have to be bit patient as I think it takes time to work out something for this device.
Thanks
kulankit97 said:
No development towards this device.. it is a mediatek device..
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Yeah Patience should work...

roftl, i just bought this device but not research it first, and what i found is the motorola it self seems not intend to work any update os, shame i buy this device, i only buying this device cuz of 4gb of ram, no custom rom developer, or any major mods to upgrade this device performance, i guess i will stick to this device as 2nd daily driver, i will still use my old redmi 4x

Help!! Leeco lemax 3

Got my hands on the unreleased lemax 3 (don't ask how) but the eui sucks and the phone has too many bugs, I just wanted to know that is there any rom in which I could use it
PICS AND SCREENSHOT:-https://imgur.com/gallery/c8RiH
Specs :- sd 821, 13mp dual cam nd 16 front, 6gb ram 64 gb storage, 2k display

You got that phone...? How?! It's unreleased! Please give me detailed specifications of the device. If not here, then PM me.
Also, as for the answer to your question, you won't find any ROMs for that device right now cause.. well, it's unreleased

Well i was just thinking that I can install the rom of lemax 2 or pro 3,
as for the device I got it from a company worker as u can see in the pics it has some serial no printed in the whole phone
It's specs are :- 2560*1440 resolution 5.7 inch screen, Android 60.1, snapdragon 821 with 6 gb ram 64 gb storage, 4000 mah battery 13 mp dual cam secondary is black and white cam front 16mp.

How will you install the ROM? Since it's unreleased, there's no recovery. Moving on, you can try installing a ROM from the Le Pro 3 forums, but it'll surely be extremely unstable and buggy. Probably even more so than your EUI. Still, if you're determined.. try this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/development/rom-paranoid-android-t3635168
And finally, I had been planning to buy a Le Pro 3 this Christmas, but now if the Le Max 3 is coming.. Do you know when will the phone release and what will be the expected price??
Lastly, if I helped you in any way, please press my thanks button. It slightly helps

@anmolsraj Where did you purchase the phone, from what reseller? Please don't say TinyDeal.. I was about to order one there, it might have saved me from a doomed day.
Please let us know from what source you got your device. It looks like a weird model because those models normally have one camera sensor and not two (in the rear)? Yeah the cool dual has two cams but the x7xx models should not have them?

NiTrOwow said:
@anmolsraj Where did you purchase the phone, from what reseller? Please don't say TinyDeal.. I was about to order one there, it might have saved me from a doomed day.
Please let us know from what source you got your device. It looks like a weird model because those models normally have one camera sensor and not two (in the rear)? Yeah the cool dual has two cams but the x7xx models should not have them?
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That's because that phone is an Le Max 3. An unreleased phone. The OP must've got it from a friend who's related to LeEco. Don't expect to get it as of now.
If I helped you in any way, please hit the thanks button.

adityabanerjee1303 said:
That's because that phone is an Le Max 3. An unreleased phone. The OP must've got it from a friend who's related to LeEco. Don't expect to get it as of now.
If I helped you in any way, please hit the thanks button.
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I looked at TinyDeal on uhm trustpilot. Not going to buy it there haha..
Looks like they buy and ship after buying stock hence the price they also declare the item as its real value. Meaning that customs will rape ya.

Too bad.. I was hoping that this phone would work with Android Nougat, so that we could extract the ROM from it.
We could then have port it on the Max2 or Pro3.

GalaxyUser said:
Too bad.. I was hoping that this phone would work with Android Nougat, so that we could extract the ROM from it.
We could then have port it on the Max2 or Pro3.
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Check these >>> https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74226826&postcount=39
>>> https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74228179&postcount=41

anmolsraj said:
Got my hands on the unreleased lemax 3 (don't ask how) but the eui sucks and the phone has too many bugs, I just wanted to know that is there any rom in which I could use it
PICS AND SCREENSHOT:-https://imgur.com/gallery/c8RiH
Specs :- sd 821, 13mp dual cam nd 16 front, 6gb ram 64 gb storage, 2k display
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I am pretty sure posting information about unreleased device is illegal will get you in trouble according to NDA.
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eUI is the best UI ever use it as it is.

bbN said:
Check these >>> https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74226826&postcount=39
>>> https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74228179&postcount=41
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Wow thanks i'll try to find a download link and then try to port it on our LeMax2

er.davinder said:
eUI is the best UI ever use it as it is.
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Each to their own, not sure many people would agree though.

Hi, are there news about Le Max 3's ROMS ?! Thx

Le Max3
↓$200
sunsky-online.com

Anything to know before buying the - ZE552KL - version of the Zenfone 3?

So my LG is dead, and I came across this phone.
What attracted me was the looks of it, it really looks nice! (and then it had some nice specs as well )
*But, it only has 3000 mAh battery, so I wonder how this phone does on a daily usage? I came from an LG G2 D802 with 3000 mAH as well, but smaller screen. So what do you think about the battery life, and if you have any other device to compare it with ?
I am planning to buy it on Aliexpress, but before I buy, I want to know if this phone has - like many other devices a "Chinese" version that the sellers on Aliexpress flash ROM on before shipping? Or this device has actually only 1 model? I also saw that Asus has an official store on Aliexpress so I am less worried, but still
Thanks!

verynoob said:
So my LG is dead, and I came across this phone.
What attracted me was the looks of it, it really looks nice! (and then it had some nice specs as well )
*But, it only has 3000 mAh battery, so I wonder how this phone does on a daily usage? I came from an LG G2 D802 with 3000 mAH as well, but smaller screen. So what do you think about the battery life, and if you have any other device to compare it with ?
I am planning to buy it on Aliexpress, but before I buy, I want to know if this phone has - like many other devices a "Chinese" version that the sellers on Aliexpress flash ROM on before shipping? Or this device has actually only 1 model? I also saw that Asus has an official store on Aliexpress so I am less worried, but still
Thanks!
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Hi verynoob,
ZenFone 3's CPU is Snapdragon 625 (14nm FinFET) which has good battery life & good performance thanks to Adreno 506 GPU. Well ZenFone 3 has 2 versions (ZE520KL & ZE552KL). Both has same CPU but the difference is the RAM and storage. I have listed the specifications below:
ZE520KL: 3GB RAM + 32GB ROM, 5.2 inch Full HD screen with 2650mAh battery capacity
ZE552KL: 4GB RAM + 64 GB ROM, 5.5 inch Full HD screen with 3000mAh battery capacity
*Note: Different market/region, different RAM/ROM configurations & different LTE speeds & bands
If you buy ZenFone 3 from China/Taiwan/Japan, most probably the seller will change SKU to WW (which means no OTA upgrades and you can only update your device manually)
And ASUS just released Android Oreo for our device
Hope this helps

Thank you, I see you also have the same name as the phone haha, nice
So There is no way to make it OTA update, by flashing an official ROM somehow? Or that's not possible, and it's hardware thing

verynoob said:
Thank you, I see you also have the same name as the phone haha, nice
So There is no way to make it OTA update, by flashing an official ROM somehow? Or that's not possible, and it's hardware thing
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i think is a hardware and policy things, dont worry you can still upgrade it manual if you aint got ota, zen3 worth to buy ?

verynoob said:
Thank you, I see you also have the same name as the phone haha, nice
So There is no way to make it OTA update, by flashing an official ROM somehow? Or that's not possible, and it's hardware thing
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Haha. Usually, ZenFone 3 that comes from China will use CN SKU and Japan will use JP SKU. On the other hand, the serial number is attached with the SKU. Once the seller changed to WW SKU, ASUS can't provide you updates. So, manual update is only way to upgrade firmware.

indunrise said:
i think is a hardware and policy things, dont worry you can still upgrade it manual if you aint got ota, zen3 worth to buy
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Thank you, it does seem worth to buy, that's why I'm so skeptic before buying it, because from some reason I never heard of it before, until I accidentally encountered it on Aliexpress. And I dont know anyone who do know about it
It seem too good, even has USB-C, Gorlla glass, it's IPS+, and a great camera, and it's not too expensive. (Although 3000mAH isn't the best comparing to Xiaomi Redmi Note 4).
It has to have some flaws! Come on guys

So, would it make sense to buy it right now? Here in Italy I could get the ZE520KL from amazon at 220€ ( 273$ )

verynoob said:
So my LG is dead, and I came across this phone.
What attracted me was the looks of it, it really looks nice! (and then it had some nice specs as well )
*But, it only has 3000 mAh battery, so I wonder how this phone does on a daily usage? I came from an LG G2 D802 with 3000 mAH as well, but smaller screen. So what do you think about the battery life, and if you have any other device to compare it with ?
I am planning to buy it on Aliexpress, but before I buy, I want to know if this phone has - like many other devices a "Chinese" version that the sellers on Aliexpress flash ROM on before shipping? Or this device has actually only 1 model? I also saw that Asus has an official store on Aliexpress so I am less worried, but still
Thanks!
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One thing you should take a look into, if you're planning to use Custom ROMs on this phone you will be disappointed, since not many ROMs available for this phone and not so many devs are working on it either (no offcial ROMs for it if I'm not mistaken).

Spinaz said:
So, would it make sense to buy it right now? Here in Italy I could get the ZE520KL from amazon at 220€ ( 273$ )
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The better version (5.5 inch with 3000 mAH is on 250-260$) right now on Aliexpress if you wish
And for that little price difference, perhaps you should consider the Samsung Galaxy A5 2017, which some of my friends have, and it looks great, great screen, great battery life. I had a Full HD Lg G2 on a 5.2 inch display, And the A5 is also FHD on a 5.2 display, yet it looks better in my opinion, and battery life is better. I dont know how Samsung does it, much better battery life with the same capacity
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One thing you should take a look into, if you're planning to use Custom ROMs on this phone you will be disappointed, since not many ROMs available for this phone and not so many devs are working on it either (no offcial ROMs for it if I'm not mistaken).
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It's OK I've used my LG G2 with the stock ROM ever since, I just don't have time to mess with my phones currently, although it is fun

Mi A1 VS Nokia 6.1 (2018)

Hi Guys,
i'm thinking between mi a1 and nokia 6.1 (2018), mi a1 has 1 gb more ram na dual camera but nokia 6.1 have snapdragon 630 which is almost 25% better that 625, also build design is almost premium on the nokia.
Can u please tell me what are u thinking?
BR

I would start with SW part. Do you need/want to unlock bootloader (easy root, custom kernels, custom ROMs, ..)? If yes, forget Nokia.

_mysiak_ said:
I would start with SW part. Do you need/want to unlock bootloader (easy root, custom kernels, custom ROMs, ..)? If yes, forget Nokia.
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simple as that
on the other side, nokia 6.1 will get android p and android q, and one more year of security updates.
pick which thing is most important to you
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spaha-bih said:
on the other side, nokia 6.1 will get android p and android q, and one more year of security updates.
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Maybe Mi A1 also? :cyclops:
- Mi A1 is released Sep. 2017
- "with Android One, your phone will receive at least two years of OS upgrades to the latest version of Android"
- Nougat and Oreo were released in August, it seems P will be too
...which means, the Xiaomi Mi A1 will get Android Q for shure - if Q is officially released by Google till 31st August 2019.
It´s in the two-years-time-frame

44quattrosport said:
Maybe Mi A1 also? :cyclops:
- Mi A1 is released Sep. 2017
- "with Android One, your phone will receive at least two years of OS upgrades to the latest version of Android"
- Nougat and Oreo were released in August, it seems P will be too
...which means, the Xiaomi Mi A1 will get Android Q for shure - if Q is officially released by Google till 31st August 2019.
It´s in the two-years-time-frame
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Don't hope too much because its Xiaomi, hoping will only lead you to disappointment.

44quattrosport said:
Maybe Mi A1 also? :cyclops:
- Mi A1 is released Sep. 2017
- "with Android One, your phone will receive at least two years of OS upgrades to the latest version of Android"
- Nougat and Oreo were released in August, it seems P will be too
...which means, the Xiaomi Mi A1 will get Android Q for shure - if Q is officially released by Google till 31st August 2019.
It´s in the two-years-time-frame
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Mi A1 will get Android P and that's it.
Two major updates, and one more year for security updates.
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44quattrosport said:
Maybe Mi A1 also? :cyclops:
- Mi A1 is released Sep. 2017
- "with Android One, your phone will receive at least two years of OS upgrades to the latest version of Android"
- Nougat and Oreo were released in August, it seems P will be too
...which means, the Xiaomi Mi A1 will get Android Q for shure - if Q is officially released by Google till 31st August 2019.
It´s in the two-years-time-frame
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Yes, we will receive Android Q...unofficially, Xiaomi can provide Android P (Maybe, i'm not really sure) then only security patches, nothing more, and for a 200€ phone i'm already Happy with Oreo 8.1 ?

Android One includes:
- 18 months of software support
- One major update
- Several small security updates.
We already received:
- One major update
- One minor update
- Monthly security updates
And we were promised Android P when the device launched (a second major update). I'd say we're getting our money's worth with this device
Source

I´m with you all that there will be no official "Q" for Mi A1
But Xiaomi says "Mi A1 ships with Android Nougat, and will receive 2 years minimum of OS upgrades."

_mysiak_ said:
I would start with SW part. Do you need/want to unlock bootloader (easy root, custom kernels, custom ROMs, ..)? If yes, forget Nokia.
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Tnx 4 the answer, i dont want to root install roms etc.. (simple no time for that ). My only question was what is better to trade +1gb ram (mi a1) or better chipset sd 630 Nokia also build quality?

44quattrosport said:
I´m with you all that there will be no official "Q" for Mi A1
But Xiaomi says "Mi A1 ships with Android Nougat, and will receive 2 years minimum of OS upgrades."
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i also agree with u.

klanistok said:
Tnx 4 the answer, i dont want to root install roms etc.. (simple no time for that ). My only question was what is better to trade +1gb ram (mi a1) or better chipset sd 630 Nokia also build quality?
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If u are okay with stock(no root,no custom roms,no bootloader unlock) go with nokia..but remember after 2 years u won't get any update on nokia.. but with mi a1 u will still get custom roms based on Q?

Just asking, why those things aren't possible in Nokia 6.1? Is there no official kernel source of that phone?

apexashwin said:
If u are okay with stock(no root,no custom roms,no bootloader unlock) go with nokia..but remember after 2 years u won't get any update on nokia.. but with mi a1 u will still get custom roms based on Q
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2 years is long period i will change the phone after 1 year .

klanistok said:
Tnx 4 the answer, i dont want to root install roms etc.. (simple no time for that ). My only question was what is better to trade +1gb ram (mi a1) or better chipset sd 630 Nokia also build quality?
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I prefer more RAM than slightly better chipset. From my experience, more RAM has bigger positive impact on usage than a bit faster/more effective chipset.

As mi a1 user I wouldn't recommend this **** to anyone. Newest downgrade (8.1) brought SMS wipe and throttling. I'm pretty sure this **** is like the only phone on Snapdragon 625 throttling. I tried to play music through Bluetooth speaker and used Facebook messenger and device was almost unusable, typing was laggy like hell.
Xiaomi is disappointment, I don't get why is this brand shilled so much over internet. I just wanted a phone with android one, and I got piece of **** that gets worse and worse every ****ing "update".

ГАСООП said:
As mi a1 user I wouldn't recommend this **** to anyone. Newest downgrade (8.1) brought SMS wipe and throttling. I'm pretty sure this **** is like the only phone on Snapdragon 625 throttling. I tried to play music through Bluetooth speaker and used Facebook messenger and device was almost unusable, typing was laggy like hell.
Xiaomi is disappointment, I don't get why is this brand shilled so much over internet. I just wanted a phone with android one, and I got piece of **** that gets worse and worse every ****ing "update".
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Do you have the 32gb or 64gb model.

klanistok said:
2 years is long period i will change the phone after 1 year .
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just dont make mistake and buy chinese version, go with the android one model

_mysiak_ said:
I prefer more RAM than slightly better chipset. From my experience, more RAM has bigger positive impact on usage than a bit faster/more effective chipset.
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Maybe ur right but u must consider that snapdragon 630 have LPDDR4 dual channel on 1333MHz and SD 625 is single channel LPDDR3 on 933 Mhz, this means SD 630 have faster ram and lower power consumption (better battery). Also here is X12 LTE vs X9 LTE, Quick charge 4.0 vs 3.0, and more important Adreno 508 vs 506 which 508 have 30% better performances.
How u can see SD 630 have a lot of advantage, i think if u have SD 625 VS 626 then maybe is smarter to get +1 ram unlike chipset, but how i said SD 630 is one generation at front 625 in all aspects.
Thank u for ur help and suggestions.
BR

klanistok said:
Maybe ur right but u must consider that snapdragon 630 have LPDDR4 dual channel on 1333MHz and SD 625 is single channel LPDDR3 on 933 Mhz, this means SD 630 have faster ram and lower power consumption (better battery). Also here is X12 LTE vs X9 LTE, Quick charge 4.0 vs 3.0, and more important Adreno 508 vs 506 which 508 have 30% better performances.
How u can see SD 630 have a lot of advantage, i think if u have SD 625 VS 626 then maybe is smarter to get +1 ram unlike chipset, but how i said SD 630 is one generation at front 625 in all aspects.
Thank u for ur help and suggestions.
BR
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While memory interface is faster, there is no reason why the power consumption should be better, in fact the Nokia 6.1 has poorer battery performance in the gsmarena review. There is no practical benefit from X12 lte vs X9 or faster QC 3.0 vs 4.0. The real world differences is very slight or zero. The MiA1 does not have QC at all which I do not see as a downside since QC degrades the battery faster especially lower capacity ones like the MiA1.
The big plus of the A1 is the larger and more involved modding community compared to the nearly zero Nokia forum activity which was probably why you chose to post here. There is help for many issues like low light camera performance whereas Nokia doesn't even have an official (almost zero unofficial, probably buggy) TWRP.
And since you aren't interested in modding or rooting and going to upgrade the phone in 1yr, why is the raw performance of the SOC so important? You shouldn't be bothered if its a 625 or 630 at all in that case since the difference is so slight. You sound like you are keeping it for 10yrs by fussing over the small differences in GPU/LTE etc.