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Xiaomi MI2S : A couple of questions to those who know/tried it

Hi all,
I do hope I am asking it in the right place (I didn't want to make a new thread at first, but the closest one I found was locked, so...).
I am willing to buy a Xiaomi MI2S phone. I already know it is only be sold in China (that isn't a problem, actually). I am mostly interested in the 32Gb version, it has really awesome specs.
I have been making a lot of research about this phone and, from what I've seen so far, feedback is positive. That is comforting, to me, but on the same page, I am directly addressing towards people who actually own this phone (or at least have tried it), what are its fails ? Is that phone as perfect as it looks ? Are there some serious flaws/inconveniences with it ?
Second, I also know that the device comes with a specific ROm (MIUI, available in both English and Chinese). I am totally fine with that, as I had a previous positive experience with MIUI roms. But I'd also like to know if, actually, it is possible to customize the phone ? I mean bootloader unlock, root ? Are there some custom roms (well I do mean Cyanogen support, or Cyanogen ports) for Xiaomi MI2S ? These aspects remains a bit unclear, and any piece of information would be much appreciated.
Thanks reading.

i'm willing to buy this phone too. When my good old LG O2x wil die (Can happen every minute ) So i also did some research.
In my langauge (Dutch) There is a lot of information about it. there is a topic on tweakers.net with lots of users who own the device. They are all very happy with it. Here you go... Ok, it's dutch.. But with the use of a translator.. I guess you can get some interesting things out of it. If not.. I could translate some pieces of text for you to english. Just PM me. Not the whole forum of course
About the ROM's. For as far as i know.. There are still no roms without MIUI.. But i'm not suprised if there are roms without MIUI. Maybe in china..
That's all i can help you with atm..
Good luck with researching

miui was modify from cm
and no other rom for mi2s now.

Hello,
I know is my first post here, but i own a MI2 (almost same specs as MI2S, last one using krait processor, better camera) since december this year.
So far nothing to complain about:
- with MIUI V5 battery last 2 full days (wi-fi on, push e-mail on, gps on)
- gps accurate about 2-3 meters
- no problem with gsm/3G signal
- display is very sharp, resistant to scratches, maybe some kind of ACG glass (drop it few times on the concrete, last time i forgot it on the top of my car and i go only plastic frame around display deform)
- sometimes it`s shut off by himself (dunno why, maybe i mess around with secondary recovery partition when it was on MIUI V4)
- no laggy at all (over 72 apps instaled)
- overall a good phone, and i like it
- i use it with the native rom and i get via OTA some updates at 2-3 weeks
sorry for my bad english, hope that helps

buy
Hi, on what website can you buy this phone, to make sure it's original an all?
I saw it on aliexpress, but there are so many sellers, I don;t know if it will be ok.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!

desdekid said:
Hi, on what website can you buy this phone, to make sure it's original an all?
I saw it on aliexpress, but there are so many sellers, I don;t know if it will be ok.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
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According to the people i refered to in my previous post..www.ibuygou.com is the best shop for the Xiaomi Mi2S device, when it comes to shipping. Some people in holland say that it takes only 1 day to ship, others complain that it takes more than 3 weeks. It depends on the amount of devices they have in stock.
The prices are great btw, 300 euro / 400 dollar for the 16gb, 350 euro / 450 dollar for the 32gb variant. And max 20 dollars for import
They also have accesoires like back covers, cases, batteries etc.

How fast is the GPS locking on the Mi2S?
This is really the perfect phone, with the exception it doesnt have LTE (does it?)

I had a mi 2
Its the best smartphone in 4.3" formfactor
Fast, stable
Very good camera
Long lasting akku on (gps wlan,edge)
Out of the box fast and stable no need for custom rom
Beside miui there is a stockandroid rom with english and chinese language
Cons
3g akku drain
Thick and high weight in comparison to s3, htc one
Bad support in fact of defect or something
Sometimes bad reception
Sometimes microphone issues ( mayve only my device)
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app

Hi all,
First of all, thanks for the positive feedback.
Well, Ibuygou seems to be a popular (and good) choice as a way to purchase the phone.
I'll consider that. Thanks for the tip.
Well, I still don't have much information about the second part of the question though. I am looking for information in the actual state-of-art on modding the phone : is there some safe ways for bootloader unlock, phone rooting ? Are there custom roms actually for Xiaomi devices, or at least, devs working on that ?
These aspects still remain a bit unclear to me, and i'd like to be enlighten on this.
Thanks in advance.
PS: Well it seems i missed natoleon's answer on that:
miui was modify from cm
and no other rom for mi2s now.
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Anyway, i'll be glad if anyone can expand on this.

Roland_Y said:
Hi all,
First of all, thanks for the positive feedback.
Well, Ibuygou seems to be a popular (and good) choice as a way to purchase the phone.
I'll consider that. Thanks for the tip.
Well, I still don't have much information about the second part of the question though. I am looking for information in the actual state-of-art on modding the phone : is there some safe ways for bootloader unlock, phone rooting ? Are there custom roms actually for Xiaomi devices, or at least, devs working on that ?
These aspects still remain a bit unclear to me, and i'd like to be enlighten on this.
Thanks in advance.
PS: Well it seems i missed natoleon's answer on that:
Anyway, i'll be glad if anyone can expand on this.
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There is no developers support due to lack of source code for the kernel as they refuse to follow the GPL laws. Also. Ok real development team has any respect for the MIUI crew as it is well known they take code from others and don't give anything back. For the these reasons this device will not see any development or forums here.
Wayne Tech Nexus

You can find a AOSP for Xiaomi Mi2/Mi2S here. It uses the same kernel though.
http://miui.es/index.php/topic,6678.0.html
It's a spanish forum, but the rom is multilanguage. You can use Google Translator to get an idea of it's said.

desdekid said:
Hi, on what website can you buy this phone, to make sure it's original an all?
I saw it on aliexpress, but there are so many sellers, I don;t know if it will be ok.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
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Hi, I just bought in ALEGRECOMPRA (spanish site) is a very serious page, based on the comments in all forums.
This is my firts purchase on this page, Im waiting (about 3weeks) for mi Mi2s

I Bought my xiaomi mi2s 32gb from this seller
http://skeep.en.alibaba.com/product...MP_2MP_Ram_2GB_Rom_16GB_or_32GB_in_Stock.html
I can assure you she is selling 100% original phone cheapest price with great support. If you want you can contact her.

Xiaomi MI2S root after can't read the file after, what reason is this?

Mi-2S vs Mi-2
Does anyone know if the Mi-2s also has dragontrail glass like the Mi-2 ??

which series to choose ?
Hi guys, i dont want to deviate from the topic, i want to ask one question regarding Xiaomi
should i go for Mi2S or Mi2 ?
i am really confused about it. help me... what is the major difference between 2 of them ?
help me in deciding which one to buy soon...
thanks in advance...

plikmuny said:
Hi guys, i dont want to deviate from the topic, i want to ask one question regarding Xiaomi
should i go for Mi2S or Mi2 ?
i am really confused about it. help me... what is the major difference between 2 of them ?
help me in deciding which one to buy soon...
thanks in advance...
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simple answer, get MI2S 32GB, it's better in every way
I have ordered this Friday Mi2S 16GB because of "crazy discount" on ibuygou: http://www.ibuygou.com/crazy-discount/
I am really looking forward for this phone, I love MIUI

Hi, thanks for your prompt reply....
i heard a rumor that Mi3 is getting launched by august 16th... is that true ? also with full HD & octa core CPU ?
above all it is priced at 320$ !!!
I am very excited & i am kind of lets wait no matter even if the earthquake happens.... what should i do man ???

Hi,
I it's up to you.
The question is, do you want BIG and heavy phone (MI3, 5" screen, fullHD) or relatively small but still veeery fast (Mi2S, 4,3" screen, 720p).
Both phones are so fast that rest of parameters doesn't matter, you don't feel the difference....
I am very happy that MI2S have only 4,3" screen, not 4,5" or bigger because I want "compact" but fast phone with 2GB ram.
So I don't care about MI3.

stillka said:
Hi,
I it's up to you.
The question is, do you want BIG and heavy phone (MI3, 5" screen, fullHD) or relatively small but still veeery fast (Mi2S, 4,3" screen, 720p).
Both phones are so fast that rest of parameters doesn't matter, you don't feel the difference....
I am very happy that MI2S have only 4,3" screen, not 4,5" or bigger because I want "compact" but fast phone with 2GB ram.
So I don't care about MI3.
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There you go, thanks for helping me....
now i will go ahead & book Mi2S 32GB version & i will get it from a person who has been shipping this from china to europe since long time.. many have voted him as one of the best....
so i will be placing an order by tomorrow or day after maximum once the chinese boat festival is over....
will update once i get progress regarding this... can i see ur Mi2S ? & which ROM r u using currently ? what r all the must have apps to be installed & what crap wares to be uninstalled ? it is better we chat through PMs.... what do u say ?

[ROM] MIUI‬ 8 Global Stable ROM for Redmi Note 4 (MTK) - Released!

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Hello everyone and Redmi Note 4 users,
the global ROM is out, time to flash it. I have been using MIUI 8 global for a long time now on the Mi5 it's a must have, get it.
Link to phone, if you are interested: Redmi Note 4 (MTK)
Flash it or update to it to get the latest MIUI8 with play store and awesome language support. Please ask questions if you have any.
Link to recovery: Recovery Rom for Redmi Note 4 - V8.0.4.0 -new
Link to fastboot: Fastboot ROM for Redmi Note 4 - V8.0.3.0 -new
------------ old files ------------
Link to recovery: Recovery Rom for Redmi Note 4 - V8.0.3.0 -old
Link to fastboot: Fastboot ROM for Redmi Note 4 - V8.0.3.0 - old

TheUltrametricSpace said:
Hello everyone and Redmi Note 4 users,
the global ROM is out, time to flash it. I have been using MIUI 8 global for a long time now on the Mi5 it's a must have, get it.
Link to phone, if you are interested: Redmi Note 4 (MTK)
Flash it or update to it to get the latest MIUI8 with play store and awesome language support. Please ask questions if you have any.
Link to recovery: Recovery Rom for Redmi Note 4 - V8.0.3.0
Link to fastboot: Fastboot ROM for Redmi Note 4 - V8.0.3.0
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Really considering the Note 4 Pro, is this Global rom compatible with the model in the link below?
I think that's the cheapest I can find the pro model for, been debating between the Note 3 Pro, which is slight cheaper and also still looks like a great handset but I like the build and look of the note 4 better. How do you find the camera performance in the latest update? I've seen a couple of reviews where the camera was rated quite poorly? It's not a deal breaker for me as long as its usable which it appears to be.
http://www.tinydeal.com/xiaomi-redm...7-deca-core-android-60-4g-phone-p-161395.html
Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

gsmyth said:
Really considering the Note 4 Pro, is this Global rom compatible with the model in the link below?
I think that's the cheapest I can find the pro model for, been debating between the Note 3 Pro, which is slight cheaper and also still looks like a great handset but I like the build and look of the note 4 better. How do you find the camera performance in the latest update? I've seen a couple of reviews where the camera was rated quite poorly? It's not a deal breaker for me as long as its usable which it appears to be.
http://www.tinydeal.com/xiaomi-redm...7-deca-core-android-60-4g-phone-p-161395.html
Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
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Hey,
yes this ROM is for the phone you linked. Right now there is only the Redmi Note 4, the "pro" was given to it by the shop.
Don't buy from tinydeal! Stay away from tinydeal!
For price check use kimovil: kimovil xiaomi-redmi-note-4-3gb-32gb
Geekbuying has the 32GB right now on a sale, in general the price for it is around 210$ on all shops.
When the phone isn't on sale then Gearbest is the cheapest (as kimovil proves), link here: Gearbest Redmi Note 4 - 32GB
... so tinydeal is more expensive and not trust worthy, please stay away from it.
Concerning the camera, later next week (probably on the weekend) I will do a low light camera comparison between Mi5, Moto G4 Plus and the Redmi Note 4, have a look at it and judge. (I don't like to share opinions, it's best if people can judge themselves.)

TheUltrametricSpace said:
Hey,
yes this ROM is for the phone you linked. Right now there is only the Redmi Note 4, the "pro" was given to it by the shop.
Don't buy from tinydeal! Stay away from tinydeal!
For price check use kimovil: kimovil xiaomi-redmi-note-4-3gb-32gb
Geekbuying has the 32GB right now on a sale, in general the price for it is around 210$ on all shops.
When the phone isn't on sale then Gearbest is the cheapest (as kimovil proves), link here: Gearbest Redmi Note 4 - 32GB
... so tinydeal is more expensive and not trust worthy, please stay away from it.
Concerning the camera, later next week (probably on the weekend) I will do a low light camera comparison between Mi5, Moto G4 Plus and the Redmi Note 4, have a look at it and judge. (I don't like to share opinions, it's best if people can judge themselves.)
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Already bought it from tinydeal , It's already shipped out via ARAMEX.
Once I receive it, I'll report here!

timrun1 said:
Already bought it from tinydeal , It's already shipped out via ARAMEX.
Once I receive it, I'll report here!
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Please share the outcome, hope it works out alright.

TheUltrametricSpace said:
Hey,
yes this ROM is for the phone you linked. Right now there is only the Redmi Note 4, the "pro" was given to it by the shop.
Don't buy from tinydeal! Stay away from tinydeal!
For price check use kimovil: kimovil xiaomi-redmi-note-4-3gb-32gb
Geekbuying has the 32GB right now on a sale, in general the price for it is around 210$ on all shops.
When the phone isn't on sale then Gearbest is the cheapest (as kimovil proves), link here: Gearbest Redmi Note 4 - 32GB
... so tinydeal is more expensive and not trust worthy, please stay away from it.
Concerning the camera, later next week (probably on the weekend) I will do a low light camera comparison between Mi5, Moto G4 Plus and the Redmi Note 4, have a look at it and judge. (I don't like to share opinions, it's best if people can judge themselves.)
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Thanks I've bought previously from tiny deal and the phone was fine although it had potential spy ware on it, which was removed with the flash of firmware. I'll check out the other links though thanks.
I thought that was the 'pro' version as it's the 64gb model? Thanks again I'll look for your further review.
Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

gsmyth said:
Thanks I've bought previously from tiny deal and the phone was fine although it had potential spy ware on it, which was removed with the flash of firmware. I'll check out the other links though thanks.
I thought that was the 'pro' version as it's the 64gb model? Thanks again I'll look for your further review.
Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
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Looked at the link. What happened is Tinydeals are using wordplay to label it as "Pro". Just because they are pre installing the Global Rom and its the best hardware configuration available, 3gb of Ram/64gb of storage.
It is however not the Pro version that is rumored and likely to be released in a few months that will feature a Snapdragon processor (likely 652), come factory built with the Global Rom and different Radio Band support (including US lte bands like 2/4).
The other difference is likely going to be battery life and the fact that the real Pro version will be built for Global market and thus get long-term Global Rom official support.
Arguably the biggest difference (as seen between the MTK and SD Redmi Note 3) is software. The SD version has source code released which means custom roms. Also the SD version wont be stuck on MM and likely to be updated to pass Nougat 1 way or another.

YaKillaCJ said:
Looked at the link. What happened is Tinydeals are using wordplay to label it as "Pro". Just because they are pre installing the Global Rom and its the best hardware configuration available, 3gb of Ram/64gb of storage.
It is however not the Pro version that is rumored and likely to be released in a few months that will feature a Snapdragon processor (likely 652), come factory built with the Global Rom and different Radio Band support (including US lte bands like 2/4).
The other difference is likely going to be battery life and the fact that the real Pro version will be built for Global market and thus get long-term Global Rom official support.
Arguably the biggest difference (as seen between the MTK and SD Redmi Note 3) is software. The SD version has source code released which means custom roms. Also the SD version wont be stuck on MM and likely to be updated to pass Nougat 1 way or another.
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Ah yes I see now, hence why people are requesting a pro model featuring a sd processor.
I still might need to get it now as I would be selling my current handset to raise some funds for something else. I'm not bothered by custom rom support if I'm honest, though it is nice to fall back on if xiaomi don't come through with the updates. That's why I'm half considering the redmi note 3 pro, as it seems to tick a lot of boxes.
I've currently got a galaxy S7 which is very good but not perfect (though pretty close). Pretty much nothing will touch it in the camera department, but I find the fingerprint sensor just OK, it fails to match all the time which is annoying and I think xiaomis implementation is better (both placement and tech wise). The audio is also a bit lacking on the s7, it's fine on the loud speaker (although it's a bit lower due to waterproofing). Audio also isn't that great over ear or head phones. Other than that most things are very good, battery isn't bad but again it's even better with xiaomis 4000mah battery.
Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

Is this an official rom from Xiaomi or the community?

Im getting a Cant verify update error... how to fix it ?

gsmyth said:
Ah yes I see now, hence why people are requesting a pro model featuring a sd processor.
I still might need to get it now as I would be selling my current handset to raise some funds for something else. I'm not bothered by custom rom support if I'm honest, though it is nice to fall back on if xiaomi don't come through with the updates. That's why I'm half considering the redmi note 3 pro, as it seems to tick a lot of boxes.
I've currently got a galaxy S7 which is very good but not perfect (though pretty close). Pretty much nothing will touch it in the camera department, but I find the fingerprint sensor just OK, it fails to match all the time which is annoying and I think xiaomis implementation is better (both placement and tech wise). The audio is also a bit lacking on the s7, it's fine on the loud speaker (although it's a bit lower due to waterproofing). Audio also isn't that great over ear or head phones. Other than that most things are very good, battery isn't bad but again it's even better with xiaomis 4000mah battery.
Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
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Ah well the Samsung Galaxy S7 is nice and excel in the hardware department across the board. Only topped by the HTC 10 in certain areas. S7 definitely is the best back camera on the market. However its Software side is a huge shortcoming. It has an expiration date and performance drops in about half a year. It's like having a 4k 3D Smart 60" TV and being able to only watch VHS on it.
The Redmi Note 3 Pro has better battery life, fingerprint scanner, Audio customization but not to be confused with power. It's headphone jack is weaker than most. The loudspeaker placement or volume isn't the best either. But the sound has much better control because Viper4Android is easy to install. Also the battery is better but not as big of a gap as it used to now on Miui 8 Marshmallow. Battery efficiency lowered from Miui 7 Lollipop.
Day to day use, it performs like a beast. No force closes, hiccups or freezing. Definitely the best phone available in the $100 - $350 bracket.

DexterMorganNL said:
Is this an official rom from Xiaomi or the community?
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official by Xiaomi.

TheUltrametricSpace said:
official by Xiaomi.
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So I should be able to flash it without any unlocking of the bootloader? Or how does the process go in work?

DexterMorganNL said:
So I should be able to flash it without any unlocking of the bootloader? Or how does the process go in work?
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Hey, you need the sp flash tools and drivers to make it work. Did you fix it so far? Do you still need help?

The "pro" after the model name tells you that it's the Chinese version and not the global version. Dunno what will happen once the actual pro version comes out tho
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DexterMorganNL said:
So I should be able to flash it without any unlocking of the bootloader? Or how does the process go in work?
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U probably need to unlock the bootloader first. I suppose it's to deter people from buying the cheaper China version and just installing the global rom on it.

Newbdroidd said:
The "pro" after the model name tells you that it's the Chinese version and not the global version. Dunno what will happen once the actual pro version comes out tho
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U probably need to unlock the bootloader first. I suppose it's to deter people from buying the cheaper China version and just installing the global rom on it.
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Nah, fastboot flash on MTK shall work anyway, doesn't matter if the boot-loader is locked or unlocked.
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Edit: There is no global version of any Xiaomi phone. Doesn't matter if it's "pro" or non "pro". Some phones are made for e.g. India as in India Xiaomi can't sell MTK powered phones....

TheUltrametricSpace said:
Nah, fastboot flash on MTK shall work anyway, doesn't matter if the boot-loader is locked or unlocked.
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Are u sure? I had 6 Redmi Note 4s and i tried to install it via the updater, then recovery, then fastboot and none of them worked. Then I read on miui forums that u need to unlock the bootloader first

Newbdroidd said:
Are u sure? I had 6 Redmi Note 4s and i tried to install it via the updater, then recovery, then fastboot and none of them worked. Then I read on miui forums that u need to unlock the bootloader first
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Yes I am sure, you need to do it with SP Flash tool from fastboot and flash the boot and system.
What exactly did you try?

TheUltrametricSpace said:
Yes I am sure, you need to do it with SP Flash tool from fastboot and flash the boot and system.
What exactly did you try?
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Read my post, fastboot, recovery and updater

Newbdroidd said:
Read my post, fastboot, recovery and updater
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yes I read y our post.
To be more precise: What exactly did you do in fastboot. What tools have you used. What drivers have you installed. What OS do you have on your PC. ... What did not work, what was the error message.
"It doesn't work" is never a valid problem description.

Redmi 4 Prime Global version

Hello,
does anyone here know anything about if the Global version will be released and when (same as what Redmi 3S has)? I tried to Google it but all I found was so many threads about Global ROM, which I don't even understand what is (and certainly it doesn't have anything to do with HW supported LTE bands, does it?)
I would mostly need LTE b20 (Czech Republic)
Thanks

tslnox said:
Hello,
does anyone here know anything about if the Global version will be released and when (same as what Redmi 3S has)? I tried to Google it but all I found was so many threads about Global ROM, which I don't even understand what is (and certainly it doesn't have anything to do with HW supported LTE bands, does it?)
I would mostly need LTE b20 (Czech Republic)
Thanks
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go for redmi 4a. it has b20. other than that no idea

ttheodorou said:
go for redmi 4a. it has b20. other than that no idea
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4X would be better, wouldn't it? I am torn apart between buying this or waiting (indefinitely) until the 4 Prime global comes out, because I can't take any of this dumbphone (Microsoft Nokia number something) stuff anymore - texting on the numerical keyboard, lack of multitasking... It can't even lock keyboard when an app is open...
Thanks for the reply though

tslnox said:
4X would be better, wouldn't it? I am torn apart between buying this or waiting (indefinitely) until the 4 Prime global comes out, because I can't take any of this dumbphone (Microsoft Nokia number something) stuff anymore - texting on the numerical keyboard, lack of multitasking... It can't even lock keyboard when an app is open...
Thanks for the reply though
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go for a huawei something lite. they have a very similar phone to redmi 4 prime with b20 around 200euros in greece if 4g is so important. otherwise i recommend this phone. impressive battery life.

ttheodorou said:
go for a huawei something lite. they have a very similar phone to redmi 4 prime with b20 around 200euros in greece if 4g is so important. otherwise i recommend this phone. impressive battery life.
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I'v been looking at Moto G5 (normal variant) and it also looks very good in the price range. Is it? (sorry for the off topic, I don't wanna open another thread just to ask "is moto g5 good"? )

tslnox said:
I'v been looking at Moto G5 (normal variant) and it also looks very good in the price range. Is it? (sorry for the off topic, I don't wanna open another thread just to ask "is moto g5 good"? )
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decent but that soc... qualcom should bury 4xx series...

ttheodorou said:
decent but that soc... qualcom should bury 4xx series...
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OK, thanks I finally decided to go for Redmi 4X... I just hope that some custom ROMs will come soon

tslnox said:
OK, thanks I finally decided to go for Redmi 4X... I just hope that some custom ROMs will come soon
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The G5 has basically the same SoC. If you are interested in modding and roms, go for the Moto. They release working sources fast, and every device has an official LineageOS.

m4tt94 said:
The G5 has basically the same SoC. If you are interested in modding and roms, go for the Moto. They release working sources fast, and every device has an official LineageOS.
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Too late Already awaiting delivery on the 4X Thanks anyway

@tslnox Could you tell me something about the audio quality of the redmi 4x, please? That's the only thing that matters to me because i listen to a ton of music with my headphones, I don't care about camera or other stuff. Let me know when you get it!
ps. Where do you buy it? and how much does it cost? I found out the 32gb version at 127€

thetupacshow said:
@tslnox Could you tell me something about the audio quality of the redmi 4x, please? That's the only thing that matters to me because i listen to a ton of music with my headphones, I don't care about camera or other stuff. Let me know when you get it!
ps. Where do you buy it? and how much does it cost? I found out the 32gb version at 127€
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I bought it in Czech Republic, so the pricing is different, I had it for 4900CZK or cca 185€ with cheap tempered glass as a "gift". I'll answer you when I try listening to some music, I just put the SIM in and connected charger. I hope they will create 4X subforum soon, as now we are technically spamming wrong forum.

Anything to know before buying the - ZE552KL - version of the Zenfone 3?

So my LG is dead, and I came across this phone.
What attracted me was the looks of it, it really looks nice! (and then it had some nice specs as well )
*But, it only has 3000 mAh battery, so I wonder how this phone does on a daily usage? I came from an LG G2 D802 with 3000 mAH as well, but smaller screen. So what do you think about the battery life, and if you have any other device to compare it with ?
I am planning to buy it on Aliexpress, but before I buy, I want to know if this phone has - like many other devices a "Chinese" version that the sellers on Aliexpress flash ROM on before shipping? Or this device has actually only 1 model? I also saw that Asus has an official store on Aliexpress so I am less worried, but still
Thanks!

verynoob said:
So my LG is dead, and I came across this phone.
What attracted me was the looks of it, it really looks nice! (and then it had some nice specs as well )
*But, it only has 3000 mAh battery, so I wonder how this phone does on a daily usage? I came from an LG G2 D802 with 3000 mAH as well, but smaller screen. So what do you think about the battery life, and if you have any other device to compare it with ?
I am planning to buy it on Aliexpress, but before I buy, I want to know if this phone has - like many other devices a "Chinese" version that the sellers on Aliexpress flash ROM on before shipping? Or this device has actually only 1 model? I also saw that Asus has an official store on Aliexpress so I am less worried, but still
Thanks!
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Hi verynoob,
ZenFone 3's CPU is Snapdragon 625 (14nm FinFET) which has good battery life & good performance thanks to Adreno 506 GPU. Well ZenFone 3 has 2 versions (ZE520KL & ZE552KL). Both has same CPU but the difference is the RAM and storage. I have listed the specifications below:
ZE520KL: 3GB RAM + 32GB ROM, 5.2 inch Full HD screen with 2650mAh battery capacity
ZE552KL: 4GB RAM + 64 GB ROM, 5.5 inch Full HD screen with 3000mAh battery capacity
*Note: Different market/region, different RAM/ROM configurations & different LTE speeds & bands
If you buy ZenFone 3 from China/Taiwan/Japan, most probably the seller will change SKU to WW (which means no OTA upgrades and you can only update your device manually)
And ASUS just released Android Oreo for our device
Hope this helps

Thank you, I see you also have the same name as the phone haha, nice
So There is no way to make it OTA update, by flashing an official ROM somehow? Or that's not possible, and it's hardware thing

verynoob said:
Thank you, I see you also have the same name as the phone haha, nice
So There is no way to make it OTA update, by flashing an official ROM somehow? Or that's not possible, and it's hardware thing
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i think is a hardware and policy things, dont worry you can still upgrade it manual if you aint got ota, zen3 worth to buy ?

verynoob said:
Thank you, I see you also have the same name as the phone haha, nice
So There is no way to make it OTA update, by flashing an official ROM somehow? Or that's not possible, and it's hardware thing
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Haha. Usually, ZenFone 3 that comes from China will use CN SKU and Japan will use JP SKU. On the other hand, the serial number is attached with the SKU. Once the seller changed to WW SKU, ASUS can't provide you updates. So, manual update is only way to upgrade firmware.

indunrise said:
i think is a hardware and policy things, dont worry you can still upgrade it manual if you aint got ota, zen3 worth to buy
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Thank you, it does seem worth to buy, that's why I'm so skeptic before buying it, because from some reason I never heard of it before, until I accidentally encountered it on Aliexpress. And I dont know anyone who do know about it
It seem too good, even has USB-C, Gorlla glass, it's IPS+, and a great camera, and it's not too expensive. (Although 3000mAH isn't the best comparing to Xiaomi Redmi Note 4).
It has to have some flaws! Come on guys

So, would it make sense to buy it right now? Here in Italy I could get the ZE520KL from amazon at 220€ ( 273$ )

verynoob said:
So my LG is dead, and I came across this phone.
What attracted me was the looks of it, it really looks nice! (and then it had some nice specs as well )
*But, it only has 3000 mAh battery, so I wonder how this phone does on a daily usage? I came from an LG G2 D802 with 3000 mAH as well, but smaller screen. So what do you think about the battery life, and if you have any other device to compare it with ?
I am planning to buy it on Aliexpress, but before I buy, I want to know if this phone has - like many other devices a "Chinese" version that the sellers on Aliexpress flash ROM on before shipping? Or this device has actually only 1 model? I also saw that Asus has an official store on Aliexpress so I am less worried, but still
Thanks!
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One thing you should take a look into, if you're planning to use Custom ROMs on this phone you will be disappointed, since not many ROMs available for this phone and not so many devs are working on it either (no offcial ROMs for it if I'm not mistaken).

Spinaz said:
So, would it make sense to buy it right now? Here in Italy I could get the ZE520KL from amazon at 220€ ( 273$ )
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The better version (5.5 inch with 3000 mAH is on 250-260$) right now on Aliexpress if you wish
And for that little price difference, perhaps you should consider the Samsung Galaxy A5 2017, which some of my friends have, and it looks great, great screen, great battery life. I had a Full HD Lg G2 on a 5.2 inch display, And the A5 is also FHD on a 5.2 display, yet it looks better in my opinion, and battery life is better. I dont know how Samsung does it, much better battery life with the same capacity
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One thing you should take a look into, if you're planning to use Custom ROMs on this phone you will be disappointed, since not many ROMs available for this phone and not so many devs are working on it either (no offcial ROMs for it if I'm not mistaken).
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It's OK I've used my LG G2 with the stock ROM ever since, I just don't have time to mess with my phones currently, although it is fun

Should I buy this phone?

Hi everyone!
As my ZUK Z2 got stolen, I'm currently thinking about buying this phone... But I'd like you all to tell me what the pros and cons are. Also I have this doubt: When it comes to "LeEco Le Pro3" on xda... does it include "elite version"? 'cause the one I'm thinking about is the "x722" one, which is called "LeEco Le Pro3 elite" and I do not know whether all this development belongs to sd821(x720, x725 and x727) or sd820(x722).
Thanks in advance!

The x727 and the x720 are the same phone more or less. I have the x727 and it's been a good phone. However you need to work on it - put a custom ROM for it to really be worth it. Also with Leeco's troubles I'd say a warranty isnt there despite what some sellers lead you to believe. Still it's fast good screen sounds good with stereo speakers.

I'm sorry to hear about your Z2. And there are two distinct development sections for the Pro3 in this forum. One is specifically for the x722. Scroll down.
The x720 and x727 have the Snapdragon 821 and NFC. The Elite (x722) does not, and has a Snapdragon 820. The x722 is a good phone but I often find myself needing more storage. 32 gigs simply isn't enough if you like to listen to music and game on your phone. Performance is good. There are now custom Oreo ROMs for the device.
My only issue is crappy build quality and some screen issues (just read through 2 pages of this Q&A sub-forum and you'll see what I mean) and no official kernel sources. Only the x720's kernel sources were released. We work off those, and that means buggier ROMs. If you can, get the x720 and get a variant with more than 32 gigs of storage. You'll thank me later.
It's also all too easy to brick this phone, and there's no QFIL file to revive it. I know the Z2 has a QFIL file. Well, so does the x720. But the x722 doesn't have one.
And the x720's QFIL doesn't work for the x722. So if your phone gets permabricked somehow... you're screwed forever, unless someone is able to provide us with an alternate solution. Just look at my signature and this forum's sticky.

MaikelAt said:
Hi everyone!
As my ZUK Z2 got stolen, I'm currently thinking about buying this phone... But I'd like you all to tell me what the pros and cons are. Also I have this doubt: When it comes to "LeEco Le Pro3" on xda... does it include "elite version"? 'cause the one I'm thinking about is the "x722" one, which is called "LeEco Le Pro3 elite" and I do not know whether all this development belongs to sd821(x720, x725 and x727) or sd820(x722).
Thanks in advance!
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I wanted to chime in and add to what everyone else has said.
In my opinion you should buy the X727 or the X720. I have 2 X727's and 2 X522 ( my Kids) and I absolutely love these phones, I saved so much money and bought my entire family a phone for less than I paid for just one phone is the past.
I have not seen the X722 in person. But I must say the quality of the X727 is as good as any phone you will find. I also have a Samsung Galaxy S7, it sits in a drawer and never gets used at all, not anymore.
My only complaint with the X727 was the stock software. This was resolved by upgrading to a custom Rom and there is alot to choose from 6 or 7 different versions of Nougat ( Paranoid, Omni, AICP, Revolution Remix, Lineage) and and an equal amount of fully supported roms for Oreo ( Lineage, AICP, AOSIP,Pixel Experience, as well as a few roms that you can find on other sites)
The development community is strong, full of very helpful people that will be glad to help you if you need help or have a simple question. Additionally, with the X727 and X720 you can use the outstanding Pixel ported Camera ( Not sure if it works for the X722)
I hope this helps.
PS: If you buy the phone, consider buy it on Amazon, they provide an excellent warranty and will fully reimburse you if anything goes wrong.

sk8223 said:
....And the x720's QFIL doesn't work for the x722. So if your phone gets permabricked somehow... you're screwed forever, unless someone is able to provide us with an alternate solution. Just look at my signature and this forum's sticky.
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I do not see the situation so pessimistically. BTW, I checked the hint of tsongming, the MallStop sells on Amazon the Le 3 Pro for $188 the 4/64 GB version. What a steal!
My X722 (Elite/SD820 4/32GB $200) lost its EUI 5.8.020 very quickly - what a load of crap it is!
The Lineage 15.1, albeit in "version 1.0" unlocks the power of the HW perfectly and beautifully. Even Lineage 14.1 (Nougat) is quite usable.
The stand by discharge is 0.2%/hr, fast charging with conservative 2.5 A, adjustable OS performance ... everything works for me just fine.
Exceed my expectations, alright.
Warranty? Who needs the stinky warranty? At that price, I'd toss the bricked phone and buy another one.
Le Eco has a firesale. There won't be many at that price for too long. https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-leeco-letv-le-pro-3-x722

Thank you all guys... What I've seen so far is that I'd be more convenient to buy the x720 one due to its posibility of reviving by QFIL (special thanks to @sk8223 for clarifying about QFIL). I like testing new things over my phones and wouldn't like to mess it up for forever (besides the fact of losing my money)... So I think I gotta set aside more money and buy x720 version.
Thank you all for replying!!

@sk8223 bro i got this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078V3LBDG/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1X9S24G399N9V&psc=1
It's used but many people have told me: "used things on amazon are pretty good". I got this question: since it's the x727 model... Does the qfil from x720 work on x727 version?

MaikelAt said:
@sk8223 bro i got this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078V3LBDG/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1X9S24G399N9V&psc=1
It's used but many people have told me: "used things on amazon are pretty good". I got this question: since it's the x727 model... Does the qfil from x720 work on x727 version?
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Yeah, but it might cause your device to be detected as an x720. But there's a simple build prop fix for that in the x720's QFIL thread.
Also, used phones from third-party sellers on Amazon or from even U.S. retailers aren't necessarily good. There was a thread here a while back about someone who bought an x727 locally in the U.S. through Google Express and their phone ended up BSODing.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/help/bricked-le-pro-3-727-blue-screen-death-t3760266
You always take risks when buying these types of discontinued devices.

sk8223 said:
Yeah, but it might cause your device to be detected as an x720. But there's a simple build prop fix for that in the x720's QFIL thread.
Also, used phones from third-party sellers on Amazon or from even U.S. retailers aren't necessarily good. There was a thread here a while back about someone who bought an x727 locally in the U.S. through Google Express and their phone ended up BSODing.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/help/bricked-le-pro-3-727-blue-screen-death-t3760266
You always take risks when buying these types of discontinued devices.
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I read it completely... I'm a little scared now. I do not want to get a BSOD... I have the option to buy the x722 version at US$159 (totally new) but i wouldn't like to brick it, I'm always testing things on phones and it's not easy for me to set aside money. I thik I'll have to take the risk.
BTW, any page to see discounts on smartphones? (skipping kimovil.com)

MaikelAt said:
I read it completely... I'm a little scared now. I do not want to get a BSOD... I have the option to buy the x722 version at US$159 (totally new) but i wouldn't like to brick it, I'm always testing things on phones and it's not easy for me to set aside money. I thik I'll have to take the risk.
BTW, any page to see discounts on smartphones? (skipping kimovil.com)
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I don't know of any discount pages. Just Google for coupons for the store you plan to buy from. I saw the x722 get discounted to $130 USD and lower with cashback. A definite buy at that price. I bought mine for that price but I now realize that the 32 gig version is simply too little for me. I can barely fit my music collection on there let alone games for emulators like PPSSPP or Android games. Only 3 gigs of storage left so I plan on selling this device now that I have a Redmi Note 4.
Don't get me wrong, it's a good phone with a way better build quality and specs than the RN4 but no headphone jack + expandable storage = massive mistake. I can get used to no headphone jack but not 32 gigs of storage... takes me back to my iPhone 5 days. I wish I could keep it but alas.
If you buy it new online you're still taking a risk, but that risk is mitigated if you pay via PayPal and record your unboxing. Make sure you test every feature possible on camera so you have proof if something goes wrong.

I would not recommend buying this the company who sell this is bad shape.
I should you give them the money if they will not back their product.
I hope they sink the rest of the way!!
Sent from my LEX727 using xda premium