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Will mate 8 get Android O ?

Android O seem very impressive for especially the under the hood stuff and performance increase with running apps.
I am sure if Mate 8 Got Android 0 it would get a second life, it would feel like you would get kirin 960.

Android Nougat sucks ... it drains more batteries then marshmallow .... Marshmallow was perfect ...

iamSHANTO said:
.... Marshmallow was perfect ...
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is perfect; B192 ..

I guess the answer is nO.
i started to feel that my phone slowed down. gotta rollback soon from N to MM.

blackinfinity said:
Android O seem very impressive for especially the under the hood stuff and performance increase with running apps.
I am sure if Mate 8 Got Android 0 it would get a second life, it would feel like you would get kirin 960.
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Android Nougat sucks ... it drains more batteries then marshmallow .... Marshmallow was perfect ...
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harryhase said:
is perfect; B192 ..
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danterape said:
I guess the answer is nO.
i started to feel that my phone slowed down. gotta rollback soon from N to MM.
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Personally to answer at all that.
I think Marshmallow was the best for the battery.
I've no issue with Nougat, except maybe like lot, the battery is less efficient. But I don't disturb with it because it works for the day. No need more. We shouldn't wait more of a phone with a big size. Say that 'O' could be worse with its consumption. Many new systems are less energy-consuming than their predecessors.
The only thing which will do that we won't have this new system, certainly, it's because the Android system doesn't do more than one or two update(s) on the devices. In addition, like it's a phone which is not followed, no one will develop unOfficial 'O' like LineageOS or AOSP on this phone. And I regret because this phone could work fine with this OS.
Sorry to say you! YOU, ME... WE had chosen the wrong phone to hope to have lot of updates!!!!
Until now, I was with Samsung Galaxy S serie, for that, this phone was really well desserved. Only thing which disturbs me was this damn knox. Now I almost regret it.
B.R

I agree franz , mate 8 is the perfect phone with almost of non related imperfections not pertaining to the phone its self lol. This is where the p9 kernel can be adudited and run Lin. If I could run mm with now let's say oreo animations ,boot , splash, shutdown like I found from a mate 9 fw for oreo ..

Yeah mate 8 is perfect phone but Huawei sucks with update and the really need to talk with their customers ....

iamSHANTO said:
Yeah mate 8 is perfect phone but Huawei sucks with update and the really need to talk with their customers ....
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Mate 7 got 3 updates, kitkat, lollipop,marshmallow, mate 8 have only got marshmallow and nougat so far so I expect one more major upgrade.

Yeah I know that ... But I don't talk about the OS jumped .... I'm talking about the os ota for region and ... update problem ... they don't fix every problem at once ... they fix 2 problem and with next update they give u 4 problem ... that's I'm talking about .... Android also security update sucks ...

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Yeah I know that ... But I don't talk about the OS jumped .... I'm talking about the os ota for region and ... update problem ... they don't fix every problem at once ... they fix 2 problem and with next update they give u 4 problem ... that's I'm talking about .... Android also security update sucks ...
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Android O promise easier upgrades for manufactures. So once on Android o it might be easier for them to upgrade to newer version also

Let's hope so

Yes , until I get new OTA for nougat c636B580 update last week . It solve the battery drain problem and it was perfect now . So guy get your latest patch or update then you will feel the different
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It is possible to get Android O.because it's GPU is same as galaxy s7(just different is in cores). Huawei reason for nougat for mate 7 was gpu.but I don't think Huawei will update mate 8 to O.

Ww222 said:
It is possible to get Android O.because it's GPU is same as galaxy s7(just different is in cores). Huawei reason for nougat for mate 7 was gpu.but I don't think Huawei will update mate 8 to O.
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Personally I would find it very strange and also a brand suicide to not give Mate 8 Android O.
Mate 8 is still one of the most fast performing phones and have that reputation. It is a top notch device minus the camera, but not every one care about camera, it is the screen, speed of software and form factor that counts for me..and it looks damn sexy to I think (I recently modded mine to mocha brown).
I will say this if Mate 8 does not get android o I will not buy Huawei again..
In terms of Mate 7 I can understand, it still got , kit kat, then lollipop then marshmallow it was kind of a lot of updates...even though I personally think mate 7 would really had benefited from nougat and android o.

I believe Mate 8 get Android O (last update maybe). Huawei already working on new "O" system.
https://galagram.com/2017/06/kakie-smartfony-obnovyatsya-do-android-8-0/

Mate 8 should get O, because its a 64 bit processor. Android O, is built on 64bit.
I hope its module driven, that way, it'll just built itself by downloading drivers for the hardware on the phone. Updates would become very easy, and bugs with things like the camera could be squashed really quick.

I don't know if this is a reliable source, but it says that we will be getting Android O in November 2017:
https://www.gammerson.com/2017/04/list-huawei-honor-devices-getting-android-oreo-update.html

Well... Will we get Oreo? I couldn't find any info....

No chance. Huawei abandoned this model already.
I am hoping for at least the Wi-Fi Krack fix through Android security patch but I am not very optimistic.

What do you mean by wifi crack?
Do you have the same problem with slow wifi connection?

Who is developer of Android one?

Hi, i wanted to buy Xiomi A1 instead of my le pro3 x720 as it seemed to be cheap pixel so it does not hurt to drop the phone, but now i'm super confused, because it does not have android oreo.
So who is developer of the OS? Is it google or xiaomi?
What android does it run? Google android? Or modified AOSP?
BTW le pro3 cost same as A1, I bought it for battery life and i'm not disappointed, but still having Google Android would be wort it for me.

Xiaomi is the developer of the OS, and the latest version ( 2nd October Update) is 7.1.2 AOSP + 2/3 Mi apps that can be uninstalled.
The android oreo update is supposed to come before the end of the year, so maybe in the end of November/start of December, it isn't really clear yet.

Well it comes with Gmail and some launcher and stuff so not aosp, I guess it is some Xiaomi android again. But what is Android one then, really?

android one ? you can google that mate

Not really, not on wiki, not on Google, no real information

Ehh, its close enough to AOSP, its AOSP + GAPPs + Mi apps, other than that it has no other significant differences I think

When we simplify it yes. But I don't get the point. If Xiaomi still needs to release is, what is all the Android one fuss about. What is different about it. I would understand if Google did is and Xiaomi just it's all package, but this seems like another marketing wank with no real improvement in updates.

a little bit of both.. I guess, but who knows?!

https://android.googlesource.com Kamefrede answres is correct - no android one branch in aosp, so i guess just another marketing wank, solved for me

Community development strength

You're a power user. Can the Honor V10 keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Honor V10. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I like the mobile myself but I have no idea if this company releases kernel sources or allows unlocked bootloaders easily.

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Looking at the past experience with devices like Honor 8 still stuck on nougat I don't want to encourage Honor brand owing to its poor developer friendly nature and broken promises
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dude, how many phones did get oreo ? even the recently launched op5t (next to pixel in software updates ) has nougat pre installed . wait for 2018, you will surely get. and believe me, Oreo already has battery drain bug and that's why 8.1 launched recently .
consider famous brands like s8 and note 8 , they are still using nougat.
Of all oreo devices out there now is in beta phase only.
so.. do you want slow update STABLE os or do u want fast update BUGGY os ? believe me, i have used honor 6 and oneplus 3 and i certainly felt like you before switching to oneplus 3 but the weekly or frequent updates made a headache for me. well that's may be just me. but it's also a fact. neither am against a company nor am favouring anyone but i just stated my point

I don't know if everybody here thinks wrong, or I am wrong . Honor v10 comes with Oreo out of the box.

saliksack said:
I don't know if everybody here thinks wrong, or I am wrong . Honor v10 comes with Oreo out of the box.
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lmao yes it does

ben cherian said:
dude, how many phones did get oreo ? even the recently launched op5t (next to pixel in software updates ) has nougat pre installed . wait for 2018, you will surely get. and believe me, Oreo already has battery drain bug and that's why 8.1 launched recently .
consider famous brands like s8 and note 8 , they are still using nougat.
Of all oreo devices out there now is in beta phase only.
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dude, what about Nokias, HTC U11, U11+, some Honors already, Xperia XZ1, Compact, Xiaomi, and many others, not mentioning all with Android One program? And "consider famous brands like s8 and note 8 , they are still using nougat..." Well, thats just Samsung, never been so fast with updates, nor it's a famous brand, the s8 or note 8 (but you've meant models, not brand, right?).

Honor v10 comes with oreo and treble support, so you can't even compare that to pre oreo phones that were born with nougat. In theory the treble support and the fact that Huawei released the kernel sources for this phone straight away, should allow for some decent community development
On top of that, I think Huawei was just giving out 100 free devices to willing developers because they want to strenghth the custom rom community for this phone

I think honor really trying to compete with one plus by helping developers by providing all the hardware details and documentation to develop custom Roms for the Honor View 10 and with the treble support soon we will get many custom Roms. I hope developers will take interest in this device.

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so.. do you want slow update STABLE os or do u want fast update BUGGY os ? believe me, i have used honor 6 and oneplus 3 and i certainly felt like you before switching to oneplus 3 but the weekly or frequent updates made a headache for me. well that's may be just me. but it's also a fact. neither am against a company nor am favouring anyone but i just stated my point
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What stable os are you talking about..
I bought the view 10 recently .. it was all good till i got the recent face unlock update..
The touch lag is pathetic ( couple of other member's here pointed it out too )
Before the update it was fantastic , but now for a person who types fast its very annoying..

adzn said:
What stable os are you talking about..
I bought the view 10 recently .. it was all good till i got the recent face unlock update..
The touch lag is pathetic ( couple of other member's here pointed it out too )
Before the update it was fantastic , but now for a person who types fast its very annoying..
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Me too have bought same view 10 and got updated os. No touch lag problem for me. Did you do format after the update ?

ben cherian said:
Me too have bought same view 10 and got updated os. No touch lag problem for me. Did you do format after the update ?
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Yes , wiped chache and even full reset , still i can notice the lag .
I thought it was just my mobile but found out in this forum couple of other guys too have the same issue ..
Can anyone post their touch latency figure's ?
If anyone could do before and after update it would be highly appreciated

Which community? Since the bootloader is locked this device is crap for me. I will replace my Honor view 10 with an OnePlus . Cu

Dead.. Community development is bad.
Broken recoveries.
Difficult and buggy flash procedures that render different results.
What works on one phone isn'tguaranteed to work on the next of the same make and model.
Really nice hardware.. Just tedious flash procedures.
Many other companies willingly help developers... While honor steals improvements and then locks down their phones.
If you really want a flash friendly phone.. Huawei and honor isn't.
My next phone will be a Samsung Galaxy note 10 international version.

If you're looking for a development-friendly phone, Honor is not the solution for you. We do have a program where we give out bootloader unlock codes to a select number of people every once in a while, but there is no official support for unlocking your bootloader. This results is a very small development community.

End of OS upgrades and maybe security updates support for Mi A1

This is not as question, but as discussion about our phone official support. And yes Mi A1 won't get Android Q:crying: According to Google answer Pixel/Android One phone receive at least 18 month for OS upgrade support. And as today (March 2019) it's already passed. It's about OS upgrades. Now about security updates. According to Google in past the Android One should have at least 3 years security updates support. But on October 2018 Google gave an official mandate about taking 2 years of security updates for popular Android phones (later in December 2018 Google change rules for Android One as well to 2 years). But since Xiaomi doesn't really care about Mi A1, it shows that the end of support is near (maybe 1 or 2 months).
Links:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/724ij3/android_one_update_period_18_vs_24_months_and_who/
https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/24/18019356/android-security-update-mandate-google-contract
https://www.indiatoday.in/technolog...e-is-deleted-from-its-site-1418261-2018-12-27

Time to move to a custom ROM

At least, means it will get no less than 18 months new OS releases.
On the other side, i think it will sure get the new ''whatever-iteration-may-have'' Q version of android because there will be no major difference in OS and will be easy enough for developers to adapt.

punktnet said:
At least, means it will get no less than 18 months new OS releases.
On the other side, i think it will sure get the new ''whatever-iteration-may-have'' Q version of android because there will be no major difference in OS and will be easy enough for developers to adapt.
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Not sure for it. 18 months has passed just now. I don't have any hopes for xiaomi to make new update, just because they already showed how much quality they put in upgrate of phone (Android pie for exp.) Making android Q doesn't makes them any profit. And in their interest to get customers buy new devices.

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Yep. It is. There are already new march security update out. Customs get it almost instantly. While official there's no any guarantee to even get any further updates at all.

I'm already on LOS. 9.0 push me to LOS 15.1 and I'm sure I will never come back to stock.

Never_Sm1le said:
I'm already on LOS. 9.0 push me to LOS 15.1 and I'm sure I will never come back to stock.
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I am on stock. No root. No nothing. And I really love my Mi A1. But every time I see people talking about loving custom ROMs I wonder what am I missing?

Does anyone have a solid official confirmation from Xiaomi that they won't be continuing to support the Mi A1 in terms of major OS updates? I'm thinking about moving to a custom ROM but I want to ensure that there won't be any major official updates coming anymore.

caolan said:
I am on stock. No root. No nothing. And I really love my Mi A1. But every time I see people talking about loving custom ROMs I wonder what am I missing?
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you miss a lot, but not need per se a custom rom, is enough root + all the goodies will come with root and customization.
force doze, custom kernel, magisk modules, google camera and so on.

caolan said:
I am on stock. No root. No nothing. And I really love my Mi A1. But every time I see people talking about loving custom ROMs I wonder what am I missing?
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To others, there is a lot. But to me, there is only 1 thing: stock doesn't support Ex-fat sd cards, and the only kernel that offer true Ex-fat support is custom roms only. On stock 8.1 I can live with a Magisk module that support Exfat but 9.0 is the main reason I jumped ship.

The unofficial los 16 by flex is an amazing rom don't let the unofficial bit put you off, it's the perfect daily driver, more customisation than stock but not ott like some roms

I am happy to have gotten 2 major updates, previously at this price point we would have been lucky to get 1, so android 1 program has increased value with updates. I was hoping to get 3 years of security updates, so disappointed Google has changed the requirement, but perhaps Xiaomi will honour the expectations when the device was released.
Even at 2 years I would still have bought the phone, but annoyed if it's changed after purchase.
I currently use Stock unrooted Rom, the first phone I haven't at least rooted, but I am sure the community will keep the phone going for another couple of years at least.

I bough this phone on Nov 2017 (if note mistaken) and I'm quite satisfy with the update from Nougat to Pie. But if you buy the phone later than that you probably feel not enough update (because you only receive Oreo to Pie update) but I believe you have received price drop compare to the initial release.
I prefer stable rather than updated OS. This device is already more than 1 year and new android OS will optimize new hardware, smartphone hardware obsolete very fast compare to PC or other device. There's no other choice if you want to optimize your phone to the latest android OS except buying new phone. I like to stay to the stock rom (with Magisk of course) till the end just to get full experience of Android One. I'm not gonna denied that Android One is a bit mess up either from manufacture side and Google itself. I will probably buy Android One device again in the future (few years from now) and see how much Android One will improve.

Feriol said:
... I currently use Stock unrooted Rom, the first phone I haven't at least rooted, but I am sure the community will keep the phone going for another couple of years at least. ...
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Same here, first ever un-touched stock. I'm still satisfied with this mid-low budget phone and that the OS is (pretty) free from "customization".
It is (was) a good bang for the buck when bought in Nov. -17 and still does it's job.
Features like GCam and similar were never promised or supported so that wasn't an issue for me nor a reason to root...

Best phone under 250$ with great Lineage support

Hello!
Last year, decision was very clear for me: Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 (mido). Great specs (battery!), great price and 1st place on this list: https://stats.lineageos.org/
Today for another device that I need, I do not know for sure. What do you suggest?
Criteria:
- under 250$
-Dimensions: Height max ~158mm (not too large phone)
- Great battery (+4000mAh)
- Good camera
- (Year 2017+)
- NOT Samsung.
- Official Lineage support + Lineage for Microg support
Thank you and greetings!

This turned out to be more difficult decision than I was expecting...
Either device has great lineage support and is NOT anymore in store OR it is in store and does NOT have official Lineage support.
Xiaomi MI A1 seems to be the only one to have both.

Xiaomi mi a1 is the best choice for you. I used it for months before i moved to mi a2. It's a nice phone. You can go for it, i believe it'll soon receive Lineage 16 official update.

solace mukhtar said:
Xiaomi mi a1 is the best choice for you. I used it for months before i moved to mi a2. It's a nice phone. You can go for it, i believe it'll soon receive Lineage 16 official update.
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Thank you for an answer!
Now I am tottaly swinging between Redmi Note 4 an Mi A1. Both are quite similar, but Redmi Note 4 has a much better battery (4000mAh vs. 3080mAh).
I have also found Asus Zenphone Max Pro M1 to be a good match (5000mAh), but I has poor camera.
If the price would not be an issue, I would probbaly go for Xiaomi Pocophone F1 (350$). But I really do not see the point. Phones above are good enough for normal use.

I also have mido on los 15.1, I'm thinking of buying rn5pro or rn6pro.

Instead of buying an old phone which already have Lineage OS support, you can buy a new phone which will probably get Lineage OS support.
I am talking about Mi A2. I am pretty sure that once the 2 year update program under android one project ends, it will definitely get the Lineage OS Support.
But if you can't wait for something that might or might not happen, you can go for whyred I guess.
If you ask me I would stretch up a little bit and go for poco F1, I don't think that there is any other phone out there, right now, which offers such a great value for money.
If by any chance you are able to get your hands on a OnePlus device (probably second hand so that it fits your budget), that would be great too.
Decision is yours.

You can get a first gen Pixel XL for under $200, I've loaded LineageOS on it and it's so good that I'm actually selling my Note 9 and going back to the Pixel as my daily driver. Camera is better too, despite being kinda an older phone now.

I picked up a used Oneplus 5 a few weeks ago for $200 and flashed MicroG Lineage to it. Excellent phone so far, I am 100% pleased with it.

Pocophone F1
+ Community
+ Official LineageOS
+ LineageOS with MicroG
+ Performance
+ SD
+ Battery and runtime
+ Camera
+ Price
+ Can be opened with screw instead of glue (to change battery, e.g.)
+ No glas back. Scratched back can be changed on the cheep
+/- No OLED display (means no oled flickering and no burnin)
- No NFC
- Only one camera

In 2020, pocophone is still considered the best option for a good Lineage support? Well, that is nice to hear...
Even so, any other, maybe a little cheaper option? ))

I was also in the same situation... Frankly there is no good phone for this purpose in budget range. My only expectation was redmi 7 getting an official lineage update. But the developers seems to be satisfied with their own unofficial versions. We have two unofficial lineage for this phone but no official ones.
Actually requirement of a budget phone which is on microg (or degoogled) is a social cause... I wish this happened.

alavalathi shaji said:
I was also in the same situation... Frankly there is no good phone for this purpose in budget range. My only expectation was redmi 7 getting an official lineage update. But the developers seems to be satisfied with their own unofficial versions. We have two unofficial lineage for this phone but no official ones.
Actually requirement of a budget phone which is on microg (or degoogled) is a social cause... I wish this happened.
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As others mentioned before, Mi A1 will be the phone of your choice. I just broke mine but will have the screen repaired. I love it.

heinhuiz said:
As others mentioned before, Mi A1 will be the phone of your choice. I just broke mine but will have the screen repaired. I love it.
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How can you say that since the official support for MI A1 has been dropped on April 2020?
You see, that exactly is the problem with LineageOS and others costum ROMs. You never know, how long some device will be maintained. That is specially problematic when you would like to choose a device based on official Lineage support. I could buy Pocophone F1, but support may be dropped in few months. YOU NEVER KNOW.
If only there would be few selected devices with long-time official support: https://forum.xda-developers.com/lineage/general/suggestion-provide-long-time-official-t4087499

If you can still get a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 go for that. We have several of these in operation. Works like a charm. I believe the the latest Note 5 is still unsupported.
In case you know what you are doing: broken screen replacement around EUR 15 via e.g. AliExpress (including digitizer). 30 minutes to change. Bunch of spare parts like ringers and loudspeakers in the EUR 2 range available as well.
In general some hazzle with the unlocking but I've been told the process has improved significantly (works only under Windows).

mgw2015 said:
If you can still get a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 go for that. We have several of these in operation. Works like a charm. I believe the the latest Note 5 is still unsupported.
In case you know what you are doing: broken screen replacement around EUR 15 via e.g. AliExpress (including digitizer). 30 minutes to change. Bunch of spare parts like ringers and loudspeakers in the EUR 2 range available as well.
In general some hazzle with the unlocking but I've been told the process has improved significantly (works only under Windows).
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Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 is not officially maintained from april 2020.

what about zenfone 3?

xdaslo said:
How can you say that since the official support for MI A1 has been dropped on April 2020?
You see, that exactly is the problem with LineageOS and others costum ROMs. You never know, how long some device will be maintained. That is specially problematic when you would like to choose a device based on official Lineage support. I could buy Pocophone F1, but support may be dropped in few months. YOU NEVER KNOW.
If only there would be few selected devices with long-time official support: https://forum.xda-developers.com/lineage/general/suggestion-provide-long-time-official-t4087499
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This is the crap. I have a Samsung S7, when I bought it, the Lineage support was perfect. Some months later the support was dropped. Now I think, I buy a IPhone...

HansFreier said:
This is the crap. I have a Samsung S7, when I bought it, the Lineage support was perfect. Some months later the support was dropped. Now I think, I buy a IPhone...
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The S7 is in fact a very good phone for it's age and I am still using it daily with https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...eta-lineageos-17-0-galaxy-s7-build-1-t3980101.
Unofficial yes, but Lineage, good performance and battery life and very stable

GuestK00285 said:
Hello!
Last year, decision was very clear for me: Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 (mido). Great specs (battery!), great price and 1st place on this list: https://stats.lineageos.org/
Today for another device that I need, I do not know for sure. What do you suggest?
Criteria:
- under 250$
-Dimensions: Height max ~158mm (not too large phone)
- Great battery (+4000mAh)
- Good camera
- (Year 2017+)
- NOT Samsung.
- Official Lineage support + Lineage for Microg support
Thank you and greetings!
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Since every other XDA member here posted crap (the best advice was the poco, but it has a very cheap display and is a poor plastic unibody) or ingored your wishes totally, I want to be honest:.
With a litte bit of own research on the supported device list on the LineageOS homepage you could have seen, that the Mi 8 (dipper) would have been the best pick you make with your criteria. I bought one last year for around 200 €. But you're a little bit late for that. It's hard to get dippers with a proper pricetag because they are sold out.
A very interesting LOS-capable, young, high end device is the OnePlus 7 Pro (guacamole). But of course this one is way too much expensive at the moment. If I were you, I'd wait a few months until it get's more affortable and buy it. At least I'm considering to do that.

As an alternative to LineageOS, you might want to consider /e/ https://e.foundation/