I just got my Z3c over the weekend, and since it was working perfectly on AT&T with LP 5.0.2 I was reluctant to do the whole downgrade/unock/relock/root/flash/upgrade/etc. root method.
Fortunately the latest version of Kingroot will root the phone with OTA Lollipop upgrade working and unlocked bootloader. I have 23.1.A.1.28 rooted without even having to enable ADB or do anything but install and run the Kingroot app.
EDIT: Editing here by request on this thread. There is another thread on this forum dealing with Kingroot in detail. Some suggest that the Kinguser app transmits the phone's IMEI and this introduces some risk. For me, I managed to get rid of the Kinguser app and install SuperSU instead. My phone works fine, rooted, with SuperSU (which was installed via recovery/flash method). I have no comment about how risky Kinguser app is, whether anyone is trying to steal something from you, or what your risk level might be with Kingroot method. Buyer beware.
I would say, if Kingroot can do this without the downgrade/unlock/relock/upgrade method then so can non-KR devs.
Does it work with a locked bootloader?
We already have a thread about Kingroot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/kingroot-4-0-t3105593
It's not being stickied because it's a very shade rooting method, very little is known about how it works and what more it does behind the scenes except for rooting. And Kinguser cannot be replaced by SuperSU by any normal, conventional means.
Yes, it worked on my phone with a locked bootloader.
Sorry for the confusion. I didn't realize Kingroot was such a bad thing. It's also very difficult to remove.
FWIW what I did to get rid of Kingroot and the Kinguser app (which is the real beast to remove) is after rooting with KR, I installed the dual recovery and then flashed the pre-rooted LP from TWRP. That totally eliminated the KR and etc. so if anyone has taken my potentially bad advice and rooted with KR, that's how to undo and retain root with SuperSU. I still think it is easier/simpler than the "tried and true" method of rooting for those who have already upgraded to LP/5.0.2.
mr72 said:
Sorry for the confusion. I didn't realize Kingroot was such a bad thing. It's also very difficult to remove.
FWIW what I did to get rid of Kingroot and the Kinguser app (which is the real beast to remove) is after rooting with KR, I installed the dual recovery and then flashed the pre-rooted LP from TWRP. That totally eliminated the KR and etc. so if anyone has taken my potentially bad advice and rooted with KR, that's how to undo and retain root with SuperSU. I still think it is easier/simpler than the "tried and true" method of rooting for those who have already upgraded to LP/5.0.2.
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Thank you so much for information. I'm ready to do and i saw your post. Thank you so much again.
mr72 said:
I just got my Z3c over the weekend, and since it was working perfectly on AT&T with LP 5.0.2 I was reluctant to do the whole crazy downgrade/unock/relock/root/flash/upgrade/etc. root method.
Fortunately the latest version of Kingroot works great to root the phone with OTA Lollipop upgrade working and unlocked bootloader. I have 23.1.A.1.28 rooted without even having to enable ADB or do anything but install and run the Kingroot app.
IMHO someone should update the sticky threads. This is a much simpler method to get rooted LP on your Z3c. Just upgrade as usual and then root with Kingroot. Couldn't be easier.
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Its not so tricky to root with giefroot. Just downgrade, root install dualrecovery and flash pre rooted lollipop. Thats all. Personal i dont trust kingroot. Nobody know how they do the root and there are always discussion about some data sending to servers. But its everyone choice
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Sorry for the confusion. I didn't realize Kingroot was such a bad thing. It's also very difficult to remove.
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https://www.google.pl/search?q=repl...-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=BSaPVbTJNszbU-L2g8AG
followed the method in the first link, worked perfectly.
Super-sume on the play store does that with one click to remove kingroot
1) I suggest you change the title or just close this thread
2) I suggest you install a clean new stock firmware through Flashtool and root it via Giefroot ONLY (I know downgrading is boring and a bit harder, but that is still the safest method)
Kingroot is the simplest method, maybe not the most safe.
Giefroot is the longest, maybe the most safe.
Both of them have the same effect, root the phone.
No need to close the thread, I don't care Chinese developers need my IMEI to root my phone..
So if you agree with this idea, where is the problem? We are free to choose if we are informed to that.
fabjazz said:
No need to close the thread, I don't care Chinese developers need my IMEI to root my phone..
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The right thread with the right title and the right OP is already here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/kingroot-4-0-t3105593
That's why I suggested they close this one.
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So if you agree with this idea, where is the problem? We are free to choose if we are informed to that.
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I can't see any information about risks inside the OP of this thread and that's the only post a noob usually reads!
Please search the meaning of the verb "to suggest": it's not imperative and gives freedom of choice.
In this case, this one already exists :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3107461
[ROOT ANDROID][2.x-5.0] KINGROOT: The One-Click Root Tool for Almost All Devices
Maybe, I suggest to close all double threads(or seems to be)... I suggest to all noob peoples to keep all questions for themselves... Great for a forum ! ?
Don't feel assaulted, just I think to ask a same question differently gives another answers, it depends who is asking and the point of view.
But you are right for the risks with IMEI.
We don't know if there is a risk or not, but it's just my opinion. ?
I think to help and share experiences are the good way.
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Rooted with kingroot, installed dual recovery and removed kingroot/kinguser with super-sume app (on play store).
All these steps with locked bootloader and last LP firmware
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I got my S4 on release day and I have been really reluctant to root because I am happy with the way the phone is. But now I am tempted to root for 2 reasons. I want to be able to use every app in the multi window view and to be able to move stuff to the SD card.
So my question is....If i just root my phone but dont put and rom or recovery on it what would I need to do if Android or Samsung released an update? The update would not work if I was rooted correct? Can someone link me on the process I would need to do to be able to install such an update?
I believe there are root method which allows OTAs but you ll loose the root and you might need to re root again. If the root doesnt support OTAs then you will have to flahs stock firmware then update then root again.
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chris_marsh said:
I believe there are root method which allows OTAs but you ll loose the root and you might need to re root again. If the root doesnt support OTAs then you will have to flahs stock firmware then update then root again.
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Ok so for example if I followed QB Kings video in the Android Development Forum on rooting my S4 do you know if that root would allow for OTA's? I going back in forth in my head on if I should root or not. On one hand I would want these extra features I mentioned but on the other hand is it worth the hassle of dealing with the OTA update process.
Based on my limited knowledge, it is possible that if you take OTA, you may not be able to root again (if the OTA patches that root exploit). Hopefully the awesome Devs on here will be able to find another exploit, but it is possible that you may not be able to re-root.
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Ok so for example if I followed QB Kings video in the Android Development Forum on rooting my S4 do you know if that root would allow for OTA's? I going back in forth in my head on if I should root or not. On one hand I would want these extra features I mentioned but on the other hand is it worth the hassle of dealing with the OTA update process.
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Sorry no idea about that method. You should ask in that thread you might will get proper info. And BTW OTA for now are provided fast but as everybody knows it takes a while for Samsung to roll out important OTAs so you might as well root than sit hoping for OTA while missing all the modding action.
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Sorry no idea about that method. You should ask in that thread you might will get proper info. And BTW OTA for now are provided fast but as everybody knows it takes a while for Samsung to roll out important OTAs so you might as well root than sit hoping for OTA while missing all the modding action.
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Very good point in not waiting around for an OTA...they do take long as hell to push out....and I will ask in the QB King thread to see how OTAs work with that root process...Thanks so much
just thought would be a good idea for someone with the vast knowledge on rooting and the different options
all there is
[Video Guide] How To Root Galaxy S4 I337 / I337m Easy & User Friendly [ 1 2 3 ... Last ] which just shows motochoper and is super old
im wondering if there is a root that wont trip knox an updated rooting sticky would be usefull to alot i believe
from what iv read so far was u can still us
cf autoroot but that will trip knox
iv been searching threw some other topics as once again no current stickies
anyways whats up with this method KINGO
this is a " " from someone else but not sure what to make of it is this a NEW safe method to root a mk6 bell s4 without tripping knox??
Kingo, against xda policy. Google kingo root, you'll find it. Cancel the knox pop up during root. After reboot, update supersu binaries, via normal method, and choose not to let supersu disable knox. Install titanium backup, freeze all knox processes using guides found here. Busybox, etc all works. If u install custom recovery, youll trip knox. Right now, just root is safe. Not responding to more root stuff, use the help forum for that, this thread is for stock fw. Lets not hijack it
anyways long story short a few updates stickys on rooting current firmware and the good and the bad would help
id post them myself but im only 3 months into android so just learning
thanks
duboisbrian said:
just thought would be a good idea for someone with the vast knowledge on rooting and the different options
all there is
[Video Guide] How To Root Galaxy S4 I337 / I337m Easy & User Friendly [ 1 2 3 ... Last ] which just shows motochoper and is super old
im wondering if there is a root that wont trip knox an updated rooting sticky would be usefull to alot i believe
from what iv read so far was u can still us
cf autoroot but that will trip knox
iv been searching threw some other topics as once again no current stickies
anyways whats up with this method KINGO
this is a " " from someone else but not sure what to make of it is this a NEW safe method to root a mk6 bell s4 without tripping knox??
Kingo, against xda policy. Google kingo root, you'll find it. Cancel the knox pop up during root. After reboot, update supersu binaries, via normal method, and choose not to let supersu disable knox. Install titanium backup, freeze all knox processes using guides found here. Busybox, etc all works. If u install custom recovery, youll trip knox. Right now, just root is safe. Not responding to more root stuff, use the help forum for that, this thread is for stock fw. Lets not hijack it
anyways long story short a few updates stickys on rooting current firmware and the good and the bad would help
id post them myself but im only 3 months into android so just learning
thanks
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The reason no stickies have been made/updated is probably because there are no confirmed safe methods. Kingo claims to have removed malicious code but it is still banned from XDA. There is a safe root available in the Verizon section that I believe works: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
The reason this hasn't been linked here is probably because it's new and few people check both sections for development progress. Also, I'm not sure if it's confirmed for us either.
DeadlySin9 said:
The reason no stickies have been made/updated is probably because there are no confirmed safe methods. Kingo claims to have removed malicious code but it is still banned from XDA. There is a safe root available in the Verizon section that works: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
The reason this hasn't been linked here is probably because it's new and few people check both sections for development progress.
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It's been linked multiple times, just a matter of time before the root guides get updated.
Wait a a few days, and it'll happen.
jh64dsb877r said:
It's been linked multiple times, just a matter of time before the root guides get updated.
Wait a a few days, and it'll happen.
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I meant linked in the actual guides, but yeah, I'm sure it will.
iv searched and read
that kingo addressed the imei issue xda had with them
what other issue does xda have with kingo that they are yet to address..??
duboisbrian said:
iv searched and read
that kingo addressed the imei issue xda had with them
what other issue does xda have with kingo that they are yet to address..??
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There were a few concerns between VROOT and Kingo, both connecting to a Chinese server, and the sending of IMEI's and other phone information along with pulling some binaries and the suspicious superuser app from VROOT. Another reason is that despite saying they are safe and have been fixed, they are both closed source and the devs will not reveal their methods. So basically it's all been shady business and XDA has left it up to users to decide if they want to take the risk and not endorse the program at all themselves.
okay i see
and i dont blame them for not wanting to reveal there methods as there is obviously some sort of money in doing this for them
and if they opened it up to xda devs then anybody can make another root process and kingo would loose all the traffic on there site
wondering why no xda devs can figure out root process when china can
guess shina smarter again lol
anyways thanks for all the info and help
love this forum
I'm beginning to get frustrated with this one. Need help!!!!!
oh please ,you can download kingroot(not kingoroot) , on my g360f it works fine
Well it didn't work on my g360v.
Rooting sm-g360v
Yes you can root this phone i just bought one and rooted it with KINGOROOT but use the pc version it has shown to have more success and you may have to try a few times as the program i think trys different methods.......although i am going to warn you if like to customize your phone and flash roms through twrp and you got the phone from Verizon (which i think the sm-g360v is correct me if i am wrong) the bootloaders are locked so rooting it would be pointless bc as far as i know nobodys been able to find a way to unlock the bootloaders....which is why i quickly got rid the phone and went back to my old one.
King root bud
BrianRuckman said:
I'm beginning to get frustrated with this one. Need help!!!!!
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Try King Root 4.9.6. (search kingroot xda in your search engine choose newest build) xda dev gatesjunior has an app on the playstore called SuperSuMe if kingroot bothers isn't your cup of tea
I got it rooted with 4.5.2 kingroot but it was partial so I had to unroot it now it just restarts and doesn't hold root.
Sorry for the confusing title, I'm coming from a Nexus 6 that was one of the easier phones to root and customize. So far I'm on month 3 with my V20 and haven't rooted it yet. If I do and receive a OTA I will obviously lose my root, but once I have an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery installed, can I just reflash SuperSU to reroot?
Thanks.
OTAs on this device overwrite the bootloader and recovery. you WILL lose root. and all methods to get it back.
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OTAs on this device overwrite the bootloader and recovery. you WILL lose root. and all methods to get it back.
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So then rooting is pointless right now?
Should have got the Pixel.
Thanks!
tjlmbklr said:
So then rooting is pointless right now?
Should have got the Pixel.
Thanks!
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Rooting isn't pointless. You still have access to all the exclusive root features you wouldn't normally have of course. Why would you want to take an OTA anyways unless you have some issue with your phone (just curious)? You could just wait for someone to post TWRP flashable updates for your variant of the V20 so that you can keep root access while still updating.
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Rooting isn't pointless. You still have access to all the exclusive root features you wouldn't normally have of course. Why would you want to take an OTA anyways unless you have some issue with your phone (just curious)? You could just wait for someone to post TWRP flashable updates for your variant of the V20 so that you can keep root access while still updating.
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I'm waiting on 7.1 and fear I will finally root and it will come along in a OTA and I will not be able to root again until someone comes up with a new form of root.
I could be way off though, like I said, noob question, I came from a Nexus 6 where root and flashing custom ROMs was a cake walk for a guy like me.
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all you need is someone who can provide updated stock roms like i do on the ls997 On the sprint model we have the latest OTA applied
Yeah but as you know development on the H990ds isn't exactly buzzing.
Neither are the other devices anymore
I guess. Surprises me as the V20 is a fantastic device.
But LG didn't make anything easy for you devs.
"Spyware: KingRoot, KingoRoot, iRoot, etc
Hello everyone! I'd thought I'd make this sticky post to remind you that common one click root apps are known as spyware throughout the community. They gain root access and install bloat on your device. While some people plan to replace these with something such as SuperSU after using them, this method can't be trusted as they still had root access. If you used these it is suggested you flash the stock image for your device. I'd also like to say that whenever one of the 3 programs are now mentioned, AutoMod will automatically comment something similar to what I wrote above.
Sorry this is short but I wrote it during my school lunch period which is about to end. Feel free to ask any questions/add on to what I said below.
Edit: I will also like to add that SuperSU is no longer really trusted. As Chainfire has sold it and is no longer involved in its development. It is still more trustworthy than KingRoot and those apps, but people mainly use Magisk now."
So on all the threads on XDA forums the root instructions all use these spyware apps. What is the current method for rooting a hd fire 10 7th gen without spyware?
vlkns said:
"Spyware: KingRoot, KingoRoot, iRoot, etc
Hello everyone! I'd thought I'd make this sticky post to remind you that common one click root apps are known as spyware throughout the community. They gain root access and install bloat on your device. While some people plan to replace these with something such as SuperSU after using them, this method can't be trusted as they still had root access. If you used these it is suggested you flash the stock image for your device. I'd also like to say that whenever one of the 3 programs are now mentioned, AutoMod will automatically comment something similar to what I wrote above.
Sorry this is short but I wrote it during my school lunch period which is about to end. Feel free to ask any questions/add on to what I said below.
Edit: I will also like to add that SuperSU is no longer really trusted. As Chainfire has sold it and is no longer involved in its development. It is still more trustworthy than KingRoot and those apps, but people mainly use Magisk now."
So on all the threads on XDA forums the root instructions all use these spyware apps. What is the current method for rooting a hd fire 10 7th gen without spyware?
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