No Sticky tutorial for rooting on the current firmware? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

just thought would be a good idea for someone with the vast knowledge on rooting and the different options
all there is
[Video Guide] How To Root Galaxy S4 I337 / I337m Easy & User Friendly [ 1 2 3 ... Last ] which just shows motochoper and is super old
im wondering if there is a root that wont trip knox an updated rooting sticky would be usefull to alot i believe
from what iv read so far was u can still us
cf autoroot but that will trip knox
iv been searching threw some other topics as once again no current stickies
anyways whats up with this method KINGO
this is a " " from someone else but not sure what to make of it is this a NEW safe method to root a mk6 bell s4 without tripping knox??
Kingo, against xda policy. Google kingo root, you'll find it. Cancel the knox pop up during root. After reboot, update supersu binaries, via normal method, and choose not to let supersu disable knox. Install titanium backup, freeze all knox processes using guides found here. Busybox, etc all works. If u install custom recovery, youll trip knox. Right now, just root is safe. Not responding to more root stuff, use the help forum for that, this thread is for stock fw. Lets not hijack it
anyways long story short a few updates stickys on rooting current firmware and the good and the bad would help
id post them myself but im only 3 months into android so just learning
thanks

duboisbrian said:
just thought would be a good idea for someone with the vast knowledge on rooting and the different options
all there is
[Video Guide] How To Root Galaxy S4 I337 / I337m Easy & User Friendly [ 1 2 3 ... Last ] which just shows motochoper and is super old
im wondering if there is a root that wont trip knox an updated rooting sticky would be usefull to alot i believe
from what iv read so far was u can still us
cf autoroot but that will trip knox
iv been searching threw some other topics as once again no current stickies
anyways whats up with this method KINGO
this is a " " from someone else but not sure what to make of it is this a NEW safe method to root a mk6 bell s4 without tripping knox??
Kingo, against xda policy. Google kingo root, you'll find it. Cancel the knox pop up during root. After reboot, update supersu binaries, via normal method, and choose not to let supersu disable knox. Install titanium backup, freeze all knox processes using guides found here. Busybox, etc all works. If u install custom recovery, youll trip knox. Right now, just root is safe. Not responding to more root stuff, use the help forum for that, this thread is for stock fw. Lets not hijack it
anyways long story short a few updates stickys on rooting current firmware and the good and the bad would help
id post them myself but im only 3 months into android so just learning
thanks
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The reason no stickies have been made/updated is probably because there are no confirmed safe methods. Kingo claims to have removed malicious code but it is still banned from XDA. There is a safe root available in the Verizon section that I believe works: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
The reason this hasn't been linked here is probably because it's new and few people check both sections for development progress. Also, I'm not sure if it's confirmed for us either.

DeadlySin9 said:
The reason no stickies have been made/updated is probably because there are no confirmed safe methods. Kingo claims to have removed malicious code but it is still banned from XDA. There is a safe root available in the Verizon section that works: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
The reason this hasn't been linked here is probably because it's new and few people check both sections for development progress.
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It's been linked multiple times, just a matter of time before the root guides get updated.
Wait a a few days, and it'll happen.

jh64dsb877r said:
It's been linked multiple times, just a matter of time before the root guides get updated.
Wait a a few days, and it'll happen.
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I meant linked in the actual guides, but yeah, I'm sure it will.

iv searched and read
that kingo addressed the imei issue xda had with them
what other issue does xda have with kingo that they are yet to address..??

duboisbrian said:
iv searched and read
that kingo addressed the imei issue xda had with them
what other issue does xda have with kingo that they are yet to address..??
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There were a few concerns between VROOT and Kingo, both connecting to a Chinese server, and the sending of IMEI's and other phone information along with pulling some binaries and the suspicious superuser app from VROOT. Another reason is that despite saying they are safe and have been fixed, they are both closed source and the devs will not reveal their methods. So basically it's all been shady business and XDA has left it up to users to decide if they want to take the risk and not endorse the program at all themselves.

okay i see
and i dont blame them for not wanting to reveal there methods as there is obviously some sort of money in doing this for them
and if they opened it up to xda devs then anybody can make another root process and kingo would loose all the traffic on there site
wondering why no xda devs can figure out root process when china can
guess shina smarter again lol
anyways thanks for all the info and help
love this forum

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Completely new to samsung where to start

hey guys i just picked up an s4 last night and am ready to root and start flashing,im not new to flashing ive been flashing for awhile but all my devices were HTC, from the reading ive done seems pretty similar, can someone point me in the right direction to get rooted, also my device is asking to install latest update is it safe to accept it, i know on htc it was always a no no. Is the samsung method the same as htc unlock root s off? thanks for any help
bayniner said:
hey guys i just picked up an s4 last night and am ready to root and start flashing,im not new to flashing ive been flashing for awhile but all my devices were HTC, from the reading ive done seems pretty similar, can someone point me in the right direction to get rooted, also my device is asking to install latest update is it safe to accept it, i know on htc it was always a no no. Is the samsung method the same as htc unlock root s off? thanks for any help
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Assuming its the MDL update, its fine to install. Then go the Sprint Original Android Dev Forum and find CF's Auto Root thread. Its pretty simple, you just have to get familiar with Odin.
As a former HTC user myself I'll say dont let it intimidate you, rooting using CF's Auto Root is a cinch. Theres a how-to video as well that will walk you through step-by-step.
Link to CF Auto Root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291827
Link to How-To's: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2271793
Don't forget to throw a thanks (and a donation if you can) to Chainfire for his dev work, and to the OP of the how-to vids.
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FanOfSkynyrd said:
Assuming its the MDL update, its fine to install. Then go the Sprint Original Android Dev Forum and find CF's Auto Root thread. Its pretty simple, you just have to get familiar with Odin.
As a former HTC user myself I'll say dont let it intimidate you, rooting using CF's Auto Root is a cinch. Theres a how-to video as well that will walk you through step-by-step.
Link to CF Auto Root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291827
Link to How-To's: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2271793
Don't forget to throw a thanks (and a donation if you can) to Chainfire for his dev work, and to the OP of the how-to vids.
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Thanks i watched the video and its seems easy i will give it a shot tonight, been on htc so long that it all seems so different
Just a note for future readers re MF9
FanOfSkynyrd said:
Assuming its the MDL update, its fine to install. Then go the Sprint Original Android Dev Forum and find CF's Auto Root thread. Its pretty simple, you just have to get familiar with Odin.
As a former HTC user myself I'll say dont let it intimidate you, rooting using CF's Auto Root is a cinch. Theres a how-to video as well that will walk you through step-by-step.
Link to CF Auto Root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291827
Link to How-To's: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2271793
Don't forget to throw a thanks (and a donation if you can) to Chainfire for his dev work, and to the OP of the how-to vids.
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If you are moving from MDL to MF9 update, do this before you use Chainfire. Chainfire works great with MF9, but you have to manually load MF9 and do a bunch of extra steps if you use CF first. Also, the HotSpot mentioned in the CF Auto Root thread doesn't work with MDL and will brick your phone. If this occurs, don't stress there is a QBKing77 Youtube video that tells you how to unroot and reverse it all and start over, including resetting the recovery software from TWRP back to stock. After unrooting did Sprint's OTA update to MDL, followed by OTA update to MF9, then re-install of TWRP, then free HotSpot, with no problems. Links are all here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2257101

New to rooting need help

i'm new to this rooting thing and i was searching the internet on how to root my galaxy s4 but i then ran into a obstacle and that obstacle being which root to use because there are a lot of ways to root can someone please help me choose the most recent way to root and have it work for this app called gamekiller which needs root access and if it wouldnt be too hard break it down step by step please
GalaxyS4- said:
i'm new to this rooting thing and i was searching the internet on how to root my galaxy s4 but i then ran into a obstacle and that obstacle being which root to use because there are a lot of ways to root can someone please help me choose the most recent way to root and have it work for this app called gamekiller which needs root access and if it wouldnt be too hard break it down step by step please
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Really dude. Please take some time to search through this forum, read the stickies and how to's, the general postings, Q&A postings and the development postings AND follow-ups.
Rooting is really simple with this phone; so is adding a custom recovery and kernel too. [in begins with CF]
Seems this question gets asked daily.
However if you are spoon fed you will get the benefit and pleasure of actually learning for yourself.
A great video to start with is right here.
GalaxyS4- said:
i'm new to this rooting thing and i was searching the internet on how to root my galaxy s4 but i then ran into a obstacle and that obstacle being which root to use because there are a lot of ways to root can someone please help me choose the most recent way to root and have it work for this app called gamekiller which needs root access and if it wouldnt be too hard break it down step by step please
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As above post. Questions are ask in Q&A. Also depending what firmware you are in. MDC,MDL,MF9 each has a different way to root. Just takes to search. We arent bashing on you for asking this its just that A LOT of people call themselves noobs and keep asking the same question over and over and over again over time.
GalaxyS4- said:
i'm new to this rooting thing and i was searching the internet on how to root my galaxy s4 but i then ran into a obstacle and that obstacle being which root to use because there are a lot of ways to root can someone please help me choose the most recent way to root and have it work for this app called gamekiller which needs root access and if it wouldnt be too hard break it down step by step please
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Watch this :
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=plpp&v=KBZ6ydFHLX4
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[Q] Root and VERY NOOB questions!

Hi there,
I would just like to ask as i'm a complete NOOB. i currently am on baseband N9005XXUFNF2 and build N9005XXUFNF4 EVERYTHING is stock. i would like to root this and then decide what to do later. i saw http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...oot-root-xxufnf4-stock-firmware-knox-t2840150 thread and was a little confused as i was happy with method but confused about the later on updates on several replies posted. so this is what i am going to do please correct me if i am wrong in any way- get towelroot, go to download mode and use ND3 and put it in AP then tick the box and start, once it is done root the phone using towel root, then get NF4 and put it in AP and start. now my phone will be rooted WITH KNOX 0x0???
Here are VERY NOOB questions, sorry, now if i do the steps above will i be able to get updates? i know that sometimes the updates will unroot my phone so i will look here on xda to see how to avoid that and by using supersu features. now i dont know what to do with my rooted phone, any suggestions? what are ROM's and how are they useful? ive seen that i should get xposed framework and then a addition to that called Wanam or something. please do advice me on what to do with my rooted phone like mods roms and kernels and what not and a brief explantion of what they are would be nice and also if my above steps are wrong.
THANK YOU for your help and sorry for the NOOB questions as i literally am a NOOB and would love to know more about Android and my note 3.

[Q] 1st time rooting...newb here and need some help

Moved from general forum.
1st time poster here....Hey everyone am trying to root my spring galaxy s4
specs: sph-l720, l720vpufng2, 4.4.2, kernel 3.4.0..... on july 9, 2014.
I have researched all the threads and am having no luck on which route to try. tried towel root, but device wasnt supported, also tried the 3 different strings. Also have read over these threads extensively.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gala...t2840591/page4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...291827&page=23
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gala...o-ng2-t2836541
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...257101&page=42
I just do not know exactly what i need to try next to download. The main reason that i want to root is to use Wi-Fi Tether. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have exhausted the search button so now I feel it's time to ask. it sucks bein stupid..
You've tried using CF Root discussed in this thread you referenced?:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2257101
CF Root will trip the Knox warranty flag if you care about that.
nobody291 said:
You've tried using CF Root discussed in this thread you referenced?:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2257101
CF Root will trip the Knox warranty flag if you care about that.
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I will try when i get more time. all this is quite confusing to me. thanks. in the meantime i'm downloading the files in the how to root video link. and then i will try to figure it out

Simpler Root Method

I just got my Z3c over the weekend, and since it was working perfectly on AT&T with LP 5.0.2 I was reluctant to do the whole downgrade/unock/relock/root/flash/upgrade/etc. root method.
Fortunately the latest version of Kingroot will root the phone with OTA Lollipop upgrade working and unlocked bootloader. I have 23.1.A.1.28 rooted without even having to enable ADB or do anything but install and run the Kingroot app.
EDIT: Editing here by request on this thread. There is another thread on this forum dealing with Kingroot in detail. Some suggest that the Kinguser app transmits the phone's IMEI and this introduces some risk. For me, I managed to get rid of the Kinguser app and install SuperSU instead. My phone works fine, rooted, with SuperSU (which was installed via recovery/flash method). I have no comment about how risky Kinguser app is, whether anyone is trying to steal something from you, or what your risk level might be with Kingroot method. Buyer beware.
I would say, if Kingroot can do this without the downgrade/unlock/relock/upgrade method then so can non-KR devs.
Does it work with a locked bootloader?
We already have a thread about Kingroot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/kingroot-4-0-t3105593
It's not being stickied because it's a very shade rooting method, very little is known about how it works and what more it does behind the scenes except for rooting. And Kinguser cannot be replaced by SuperSU by any normal, conventional means.
Yes, it worked on my phone with a locked bootloader.
Sorry for the confusion. I didn't realize Kingroot was such a bad thing. It's also very difficult to remove.
FWIW what I did to get rid of Kingroot and the Kinguser app (which is the real beast to remove) is after rooting with KR, I installed the dual recovery and then flashed the pre-rooted LP from TWRP. That totally eliminated the KR and etc. so if anyone has taken my potentially bad advice and rooted with KR, that's how to undo and retain root with SuperSU. I still think it is easier/simpler than the "tried and true" method of rooting for those who have already upgraded to LP/5.0.2.
mr72 said:
Sorry for the confusion. I didn't realize Kingroot was such a bad thing. It's also very difficult to remove.
FWIW what I did to get rid of Kingroot and the Kinguser app (which is the real beast to remove) is after rooting with KR, I installed the dual recovery and then flashed the pre-rooted LP from TWRP. That totally eliminated the KR and etc. so if anyone has taken my potentially bad advice and rooted with KR, that's how to undo and retain root with SuperSU. I still think it is easier/simpler than the "tried and true" method of rooting for those who have already upgraded to LP/5.0.2.
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Thank you so much for information. I'm ready to do and i saw your post. Thank you so much again.
mr72 said:
I just got my Z3c over the weekend, and since it was working perfectly on AT&T with LP 5.0.2 I was reluctant to do the whole crazy downgrade/unock/relock/root/flash/upgrade/etc. root method.
Fortunately the latest version of Kingroot works great to root the phone with OTA Lollipop upgrade working and unlocked bootloader. I have 23.1.A.1.28 rooted without even having to enable ADB or do anything but install and run the Kingroot app.
IMHO someone should update the sticky threads. This is a much simpler method to get rooted LP on your Z3c. Just upgrade as usual and then root with Kingroot. Couldn't be easier.
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Its not so tricky to root with giefroot. Just downgrade, root install dualrecovery and flash pre rooted lollipop. Thats all. Personal i dont trust kingroot. Nobody know how they do the root and there are always discussion about some data sending to servers. But its everyone choice
mr72 said:
Sorry for the confusion. I didn't realize Kingroot was such a bad thing. It's also very difficult to remove.
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https://www.google.pl/search?q=repl...-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=BSaPVbTJNszbU-L2g8AG
followed the method in the first link, worked perfectly.
Super-sume on the play store does that with one click to remove kingroot
1) I suggest you change the title or just close this thread
2) I suggest you install a clean new stock firmware through Flashtool and root it via Giefroot ONLY (I know downgrading is boring and a bit harder, but that is still the safest method)
Kingroot is the simplest method, maybe not the most safe.
Giefroot is the longest, maybe the most safe.
Both of them have the same effect, root the phone.
No need to close the thread, I don't care Chinese developers need my IMEI to root my phone..
So if you agree with this idea, where is the problem? We are free to choose if we are informed to that.
fabjazz said:
No need to close the thread, I don't care Chinese developers need my IMEI to root my phone..
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The right thread with the right title and the right OP is already here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/kingroot-4-0-t3105593
That's why I suggested they close this one.
fabjazz said:
So if you agree with this idea, where is the problem? We are free to choose if we are informed to that.
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I can't see any information about risks inside the OP of this thread and that's the only post a noob usually reads!
Please search the meaning of the verb "to suggest": it's not imperative and gives freedom of choice.
In this case, this one already exists :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3107461
[ROOT ANDROID][2.x-5.0] KINGROOT: The One-Click Root Tool for Almost All Devices
Maybe, I suggest to close all double threads(or seems to be)... I suggest to all noob peoples to keep all questions for themselves... Great for a forum ! ?
Don't feel assaulted, just I think to ask a same question differently gives another answers, it depends who is asking and the point of view.
But you are right for the risks with IMEI.
We don't know if there is a risk or not, but it's just my opinion. ?
I think to help and share experiences are the good way.
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Rooted with kingroot, installed dual recovery and removed kingroot/kinguser with super-sume app (on play store).
All these steps with locked bootloader and last LP firmware

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