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Android 5.0 L for Z3

Greeting, if anyone knows when it will be available to Android 5.0 for Xperia Z3?
Something was discussed, it should come this year or next (Q1/2015)... It would be good if Sony starts thinking forward about the new android L...
Or we'll get a new update on Z3, while out new Z4..

zujko said:
Greeting, if anyone knows when it will be available to Android 5.0 for Xperia Z3?
Something was discussed, it should come this year or next (Q1/2015)... It would be good if Sony starts thinking forward about the new android L...
Or we'll get a new update on Z3, while out new Z4..
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Wait for Sony to announce their update roadmaps in the next few days

Probably we will all get in in Q1/2015
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http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/10...d-5-0-lollipop-to-the-entire-xperia-z-series/

Bäcker said:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/10...d-5-0-lollipop-to-the-entire-xperia-z-series/
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So that means we will get it 3 months from when the nexus devices get theirs. Its not fast update but its on par with other OEM's i guess.

Wow, Sony means xperia z will get android L update.... Fantastic!!!!

Good news. I will be holding onto my Nexus 5 until Christmas then, usually the carriers have devices on sale around then and also my upgrade fee will be less. SAWEEET!

viking2.0 said:
So that means we will get it 3 months from when the nexus devices get theirs. Its not fast update but its on par with other OEM's i guess.
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LOOL.... Nexus get out 6 of november, lollipop will land few days later on older nexus and GPE version of phone.
So it means sony have just one and half month to bring it to Z3 if they want to realease it for Z3 series, and you say its slow?
And for compare
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HTC One (M7) - Android 5.0 Lollipop update in 90 days
HTC One (M8) - Android 5.0 Lollipop update in 90 days
HTC One mini - Android 5.0 Lollipop update, schedule TBA
HTC One mini 2 - Android 5.0 Lollipop update, schedule TBA
Motorola have 4-5 phones, samsung few phones, lg 2 maybe and sony will update entire Z series.
This is briliant

Chance for better 3rd party camera apps?
Since several of the features in 5.0 look quite interesting for photography purposes, any guesses if these could be used for better 3rd party camera apps?
As seen on http://www.android.com/versions/lollipop-5-0/ :
A range of new professional photography features for Android Lollipop that let you
Capture full resolution frames around 30 fps
Support raw formats like YUV and Bayer RAW
Control capture settings for the sensor, lens, and flash per individual frame
Capture metadata like noise models and optical information

electrash said:
LOOL.... Nexus get out 6 of november, lollipop will land few days later on older nexus and GPE version of phone.
So it means sony have just one and half month to bring it to Z3 if they want to realease it for Z3 series, and you say its slow?
And for compare
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HTC One (M7) - Android 5.0 Lollipop update in 90 days
HTC One (M8) - Android 5.0 Lollipop update in 90 days
HTC One mini - Android 5.0 Lollipop update, schedule TBA
HTC One mini 2 - Android 5.0 Lollipop update, schedule TBA
Motorola have 4-5 phones, samsung few phones, lg 2 maybe and sony will update entire Z series.
This is briliant
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Sony states 5.0 will be released beginning of 2015. So assuming its end of Jan or early Feb then it is 3 months from the release of 5.0 to nexus devices. This could be the time frame for all the other OEM's except motorola which might release it in december. I would call that fast. I knew this before buying the device so i am not really bothered about it.

At least they have announced an intention to update those phones. Unlike Samsung...

Bäcker said:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/10...d-5-0-lollipop-to-the-entire-xperia-z-series/
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Wow, I am positively surprised that even my Xperia tablet z will get official lollipop. I thought that Sony was supposed to be bad at updating. Compared to my old Asus I feel that I am treated like a princess.
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So will there be any changes for an update for Z3 to Lollipop? When I had a Samsung/HTC update to 4.0, there weren't any major changes. Will the Z3 be able to run ART with even better battery saving capabilities? Anyone know what features might be added? Im interested to know if there will be any major changes, or if I should just wait for a Z4/Nexus 6 that will have the latest features instead of getting a slimmed down update.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks

Richie5767 said:
So will there be any changes for an update for Z3 to Lollipop? When I had a Samsung/HTC update to 4.0, there weren't any major changes. Will the Z3 be able to run ART with even better battery saving capabilities? Anyone know what features might be added? Im interested to know if there will be any major changes, or if I should just wait for a Z4/Nexus 6 that will have the latest features instead of getting a slimmed down update.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks
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If I read it correctly ART is the default runtime in lollipop so yeah... Guess it'll be able to run ART. And nobody knows what the exact changes will be... only sony.

I'm pretty sure Z3 will get L in late Jan - early Feb

viking2.0 said:
Sony states 5.0 will be released beginning of 2015. So assuming its end of Jan or early Feb then it is 3 months from the release of 5.0 to nexus devices. This could be the time frame for all the other OEM's except motorola which might release it in december. I would call that fast. I knew this before buying the device so i am not really bothered about it.
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Aye, let the Nexus users be the guinea pigs and do the testing for us - hopefully by that time it will be bug free is the way I see it

rooting lollipop may need a custom kernel ? (according to chainfire) this will make bootloader unlock and drm issue all the more interesting hehe
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CandyAndy said:
Wow, I am positively surprised that even my Xperia tablet z will get official lollipop. I thought that Sony was supposed to be bad at updating. Compared to my old Asus I feel that I am treated like a princess.
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Ah, yes, but because of the frequency of new models being released, it's easy to forget that the Z and Tablet Z actually only came out about 18 months ago - so are pretty much within the '18 month' window of getting supported.

I actually don't want Android 5 / L before it has stabilized. KitKat needed 5 iterations to settle (remember all the connectivity issues up and including 4.4.3?!).
Hence, completly agree with zoomee, let Nexus users do some testing and Google do some fixes first

Meanwhile, the Z2 STILL doesn't have 4.4.4

Android M and Sony Xperia Z3

So, Android M has been out for more than two hours now and so far there is not a single topic/thread asking when will we finally get it?
I mean, the dozing stuff is quite cool. Too bad we have (likely producing the exact same results) Stamina mode already.
But the automatic app data backup is quite amazing (http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...eynote-automatic-app-data-backup-and-restore/).
So, what do you guys think? Will we even get the update in the end? What are the features you would really like to have it for?

I do think we'll eventually get Android M on our Z3's but we'll probably be waiting around a year or so (roughly 6 months till most nexus devices get it then another 6 months or so while Sony fine tunes and tests). Let's not forget today's release is just a developer preview and a lot of new functions aren't even working yet.
I'm looking forward to having dark theme setting available, keyboard undo/redo shortcuts (sounds useful) and granular app permissions. Sd card also appears to be back in favour with the new adoption feature and battery historian v2 should give us much better stats

I reckon Sony will release Android M around April / May 2016.

user91 said:
So, Android M has been out for more than two hours now and so far there is not a single topic/thread asking when will we finally get it?
I mean, the dozing stuff is quite cool. Too bad we have (likely producing the exact same results) Stamina mode already.
But the automatic app data backup is quite amazing (http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...eynote-automatic-app-data-backup-and-restore/).
So, what do you guys think? Will we even get the update in the end? What are the features you would really like to have it for?
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Backup restore is like Titanium backup?
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I reckon Sony will release Android M around April / May 2016.

shawnaye said:
Backup restore is like Titanium backup?
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Yes, the app data up to 25MB per app. Backed up to GDrive.

Myself, I would be pretty shocked if we get official M from Sony. We just barely went from KK to LP and I am not so happy with 5.0.2 and I want 5.1.x ASAP.

Man lol, I'm still enjoying Kit Kat for our Z3.. Don't even look forward to an update as the phone keeps chugging along fine. If M does come though, I wouldn't mind it.

Hopefully we get Android M. If not that would be quite disappointing. Also hope that they go with Macaroon for Android M name

I think it will be Marshmallow
But the screenshots are disappointing. Looks exactly like Lollipop.
I don't like the new way Google makes their Software. There are too much updates and changes so the modding and Developer Community will die slowly.

I like the new look and feel of Android L. And I will be very very happy if there would be Android M for the Z3.
Wasn't there the guarantee from Sony, that they would upgrade to two major releases?

Android M preview is now out for the Z3, Z3 Compact, Z3 Tablet Compact, Z2, Z2 Tablet, Z1, Z1 Compact, Z Ultra, E3, M2, T2 Ultra and T3: http://developer.sonymobile.com/kno...eveloper-preview-for-unlocked-xperia-devices/

user91 said:
So, Android M has been out for more than two hours now and so far there is not a single topic/thread asking when will we finally get it?
I mean, the dozing stuff is quite cool. Too bad we have (likely producing the exact same results) Stamina mode already.
But the automatic app data backup is quite amazing (http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...eynote-automatic-app-data-backup-and-restore/).
So, what do you guys think? Will we even get the update in the end? What are the features you would really like to have it for?
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Probably because M hasn't been out for more than two hours. M won't be out until late Fall (October/November). Just like the L developer preview came at I/O but L didn't go live until early November.
However, Google pushed more of the M dev preview source to AOSP than they did for L dev preview (there was no way anyone could even think about building AOSP for L-preview), but it is still fairly incomplete. So don't expect anything other than proof-of-concept hacks that aren't usable for a daily driver until sometime after October/November when M goes live officially. For example, the "Now On Tap" feature seems to be completely missing from AOSP in the M-preview branches.

Entropy512 said:
Probably because M hasn't been out for more than two hours. M won't be out until late Fall (October/November). Just like the L developer preview came at I/O but L didn't go live until early November.
However, Google pushed more of the M dev preview source to AOSP than they did for L dev preview (there was no way anyone could even think about building AOSP for L-preview), but it is still fairly incomplete. So don't expect anything other than proof-of-concept hacks that aren't usable for a daily driver until sometime after October/November when M goes live officially. For example, the "Now On Tap" feature seems to be completely missing from AOSP in the M-preview branches.
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Will this be helpful for both devs and OEM to release M sooner than Lollipop?
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Is M a right firmware or are they just binaries? Might think read something about it...
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vittogn said:
Will this be helpful for both devs and OEM to release M sooner than Lollipop?
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It depends on how much more Google changes internally before M goes live in October/November. So far changes from L to make AOSP "m-preview" work weren't significant, but that's partly because a lot of the "M-preview" source is closer to L than to M as the source is incomplete.
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Is M a right firmware or are they just binaries? Might think read something about it...
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90% certain they're using the same blobs as L. Haven't had time to look at the M build info yet, honestly not really planning on bothering with it vs. fixing remaining AOSP L issues.

No marshmallow upgrade for Z1 or Z1 compact!!

Sony are busy congratulating themselves about bringing the new android 6 Marshmallow upgrade to Sony devices.
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow/
Think it's pretty crappy that the Z1 and Z1 compact are not included. Great expected life cycle for their products. Most new handsets in UK are on a 2 year contract. Shame they can't provide updates for at least that long before expecting you to get a shiny new phone (with another 2 year contract).
Seriously thinking that the Z1C will be my last Sony product.
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marshmallow z1c
asmad said:
Sony are busy congratulating themselves about bringing the new android 6 Marshmallow upgrade to Sony devices.
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow/
Think it's pretty crappy that the Z1 and Z1 compact are not included. Great expected life cycle for their products. Most new handsets in UK are on a 2 year contract. Shame they can't provide updates for at least that long before expecting you to get a shiny new phone (with another 2 year contract).
Seriously thinking that the Z1C will be my last Sony product.
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That would be really a shame, the z1c isn't "old" and there are no hardware limitations for getting an update. z1c was released in Europe January/February 2014.

I was opitimistic until today that my device would get the Marshmallow update. I'm curious if they will at least deliver security fixes for 5.1.1.
When you say that you will now switch to another brand - well, please tell me, who sells a smartphone < 4,7 " with high end hardware and better support?

Good question grisu59964. Hopefully by the time my contract is up in May 2016 something new and shiny will catch my eye.
I've had Sony phones since they bought into Ericsson and to be honest they're not always great. Loved the 1st Walkman phone. (still have it in a drawer) But the Xperia U stands out as a particularly bad example. It couldn't even run Sonys own update to ICS.
Still, even with its faults like not locking the screen while its against my ear during a call, or the mysterious battery drains, random restarts, music player volume and the previous shoddy updates I do kind of like my Z1C.
I guess it's nearly time to root and add a nice custom 6.0 rom.

Lets post that we need it
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Soft...arshmallow-Which-Xperias-will-be/td-p/1033227
And comment here
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow/

Seems that the Z1 will be included in the second batch, so hopefully that means that the Z1C will be included as well.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Comp...ow-leaks-includes-Samsung-Sony-and-LG_id74400

Thats sad. I still hope 6.0 will come to z1 even if its not in the list. Like some said, there is no sence on leaving the z1 behind with a Snap 800. I would like very much to see the efficiency of the battery saving that has been developed in 6.0.

yes, it is sad, but I hope there will be CyanogenMod 13 very soon

I was just about to buy a z1c too lol, guess I'll go with the samsung alpha.

Do your duty! - https://www.change.org/p/sony-mobile-company-android-6-0-marshmallow-for-sony-xperia-z1-compact

Kendosis said:
I was just about to buy a z1c too lol, guess I'll go with the samsung alpha.
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/Complete-list-of-phones-to-get-Android-6-Marshmallow-leaks-includes-Samsung-Sony-and-LG_id74400
This link said Z1/Z1c actually will be in second batch but guess that will be in the middle of 2016.
I've got a S6 and Z1c. In my experiences, Samsung camera focus speed blows Z1c away(picture quality indeed Z1c still doing good though not as nice as S6) but if you need waterproof and microSD then Z1c better and much cheaper. Alpha is a bit expensive, you should compare it with Z3c in this price range.

grisu59964 said:
I was opitimistic until today that my device would get the Marshmallow update. I'm curious if they will at least deliver security fixes for 5.1.1.
When you say that you will now switch to another brand - well, please tell me, who sells a smartphone < 4,7 " with high end hardware and better support?
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Quiet simple : xiaomi is the choice i will change to. It's a software engineer, using the phones as a bridge between user and software. They're producing without win merges, the only contra is the online selling and the shipping duration. Regarding price - hardware related stuff it's the best at the moment.

WieserZ1C said:
Quiet simple : xiaomi is the choice i will change to. It's a software engineer, using the phones as a bridge between user and software. They're producing without win merges, the only contra is the online selling and the shipping duration. Regarding price - hardware related stuff it's the best at the moment.
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Unfortunately, Xiaomi has only devices starting at 5" display size (size comparison). And who says that Xiaomi will provide software support in two years? Unfortunately, not really an alternative.
For now, I hope that CM 13 will make us forget that we use officially obsolete hardware.

heck. Z1 Compact is exact same specs of Nexus5 and not getting Android 6.x?
Z1C is more than capable. its just that Sony wants us to upgrade to Z5 Compact, so they won't make official marshmallow rom for it.
its the usual term : planned obsolesence.

As the updates are flowing in, i feel we've been followed much closely now, so on second thoughts, I'd go back to symbian and have Linux based laptop, sorted. Why can't we port gingerbread on contemporary handset? An OEM will never be complete and a custom rom would never match OEM's algorithms, catch 22. Look where CM had started and what now it has become same sh*t in different way.
Every company wants control but I have faith in Developers, especially independent. And all this "security" thing is overrated, what are trying to hide anyway? rather from whom? I mean, as a consumer.

Have you signed this petition?
https://www.change.org/p/sony-mobile-company-android-6-0-marshmallow-for-sony-xperia-z1-compact
Go for it. Takes just a few seconds.
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Z1c is mini Z1, witch is 95% Z2. why oh why not do it.
I get the original Z that has S4 pro processor ... but Z1 has SD800 and Z2 SD801 witch is same just bumped up frequencies ...
Meh ..
Side question, If I Bootloader unlock my Z1c, i know i lose the DRM keys, but what exactly i lose in functionality ? lower camera performance like on Z3c?

It would be shame if Sony would just drop Z1c. Leaving it with Stragefright 2.0... The phone should get the update.

I won't change this phone for at least another 1 1/2 years, so marschmallow would be great to stay with...
shame on sony, if they drop the suppport..

Dancanplay said:
It would be shame if Sony would just drop Z1c. Leaving it with Stragefright 2.0... The phone should get the update.
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I thought 5.1 fixed it - http://www.ibtimes.com/android-511-...ria-z1-z1-compact-z-ultra-rolling-out-2096910 - or is there another one?

Z3 compact will NOT get Nougat upgrade

according to this blog post by Sony: http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/08/23/sony-xperia-and-android-7-0-nougat/
We will make Android 7.0, Nougat available for: Xperia Z3+, Xperia Z4 Tablet, Xperia Z5, Xperia Z5 Compact, Xperia Z5 Premium, Xperia X, Xperia XA, Xperia XA Ultra and Xperia X Performance
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najodleglejszy said:
according to this blog post by Sony: http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/08/23/sony-xperia-and-android-7-0-nougat/
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If that’s true, unless an Xperia play 2 comes out, I won’t buy a Sony phone again.

z3 will get Nougat,since even Z got it's Lollipop 5.1 updates

Bye sony hello new nexus...

YongJeah said:
z3 will get Nougat,since even Z got it's Lollipop 5.1 updates
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it won't, sorry for that. Announced by Sony developers

Sebasmt said:
Bye sony hello new nexus...
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Same here

Wtf the Z3 gets dev preview but doesn't get official update,that is the bigger bulls*it ever

Hold your [email protected], people...
I think it's not a final word from them... remember that original Xperia Z received the updates being 2 years old. Just relax and wait, maybe they'll change their mind.
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I don't see it having developer builds and not the final one

What option do we have for longtime support for Z3 Compact? There is no official Cyanogen mod support either?

This sucks. Just bought another z3 because I smashed the screen on my last one. Still my all time fave Android phone.

i used sonymobile 3 product
play no upgrade to 4
SP no upgrade to 4.4
and last z3c no upgrade to 7 due to use cpu 32 bit
i think next mobile is Nexus Sailfish
but i waiting see xperia XR if it has speed shutter
may be buy sony again hahahaha

This is from concept google+ community:
Regarding Nougat Android 7.0 update
We know that you all hoped for a N release and we really wanted to give you one but instead we have to tell you that we won't be able to.
The reasons are both technical and legal. If you followed the N Developer Preview program you know that we didn't release the final DP5. That program ran into some unforeseen limitations (1) that could not be resolved.
This is the reason that both concept and official won't be upgraded to Android N (2).
(1) https://developer.sony.com/2016/07/...ed-for-xperia-z3/comment-page-2/#comment-1025
(2) http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/08/23/sony-xperia-and-android-7-0-nougat/

pekingG said:
This is from concept google+ community:
Regarding Nougat Android 7.0 update
We know that you all hoped for a N release and we really wanted to give you one but instead we have to tell you that we won't be able to.
The reasons are both technical and legal. If you followed the N Developer Preview program you know that we didn't release the final DP5. That program ran into some unforeseen limitations (1) that could not be resolved.
This is the reason that both concept and official won't be upgraded to Android N (2).
(1) https://developer.sony.com/2016/07/...ed-for-xperia-z3/comment-page-2/#comment-1025
(2) http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/08/23/sony-xperia-and-android-7-0-nougat/
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must sux for the sony devs. looks like they tried to pull it off but execs came and said no.

Please read again the link, it says and i quote,
"We’ve been working hard to bring this major update to as many of our devices as possible, as quickly as we can. We’re really excited about the new Sony features & functionality and the improvements we’ve made to the user experience – and we’ll be sharing more soon… so stay tuned to the blog and @SonyMobileNews for all the latest news on timings and features."
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/08/...id-7-0-nougat/

Seems that Google removed the support for Snapdragon 800/801 from the Kernel, that's what they call unforeseen limitations (the Nexus 5, Snapdragon 800 don't get the update either).

Such an unpopular decision for a very popular device, like z3(c).

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Seems that Google removed the support for Snapdragon 800/801 from the Kernel, that's what they call unforeseen limitations (the Nexus 5, Snapdragon 800 don't get the update either).
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pekingG said:
This is from concept google+ community:
Regarding Nougat Android 7.0 update
We know that you all hoped for a N release and we really wanted to give you one but instead we have to tell you that we won't be able to.
The reasons are both technical and legal. If you followed the N Developer Preview program you know that we didn't release the final DP5. That program ran into some unforeseen limitations (1) that could not be resolved.
This is the reason that both concept and official won't be upgraded to Android N (2).
(1) https://developer.sony.com/2016/07/...ed-for-xperia-z3/comment-page-2/#comment-1025
(2) http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/08/23/sony-xperia-and-android-7-0-nougat/
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Can someone please pin these in the main post?

Maybe its because of chipset is X86

Yasin.Dogan said:
Maybe its because of chipset is X86
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Well.... Z3 and Z3 Compact doesn't use any X86 chipset, it uses a arm-based chipset (Snapdragon 801 namely), and the reason Sony can't bring the upgrade to the Z3 and Z3 Compact is becuase Google removed support for the Snapdragon 801.

Xperia Z3 won't get Android N

http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/08/23/sony-xperia-and-android-7-0-nougat/
Sadly our device can't get Android N :crying:
[edit] http://www.phonearena.com/news/No-Nougat-for-your-Android-phone-You-might-want-to-blame-Qualcomm_id84543

snailpon said:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/08/23/sony-xperia-and-android-7-0-nougat/
Sadly our device can't get Android N :crying:
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Well, just as I thought. I have some hope on developers here, but considering how little work has been done with AOSP and CM I can't expect too much

ridiculous they were teased with devolved Android n
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Me too.. I will probably sell my D6603, Sony just disappointed me.
Anyway I'm open to suggestions

codeluca said:
Me too.. I will probably sell my D6603, Sony just disappointed me.
Anyway I'm open to suggestions
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Personaly I would go with OP3 or nexus devices. Good specs and developer friendly.

I like OP3 and Xiaomi mi5 but I would miss the SD card... I would consider Huawei P9 or LG G5, but these have poor developer support. Any alternative?
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Thank you Sony for making me absolutely sure that I'll never ever buy a Sony phone again.

Zox09 said:
Thank you Sony for making me absolutely sure that I'll never ever buy a Sony phone again.
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I have hope for the community, we'll make it through with better sources and faster updates than what Sony had to offer us. Hopefully official Cyanogenmod comes our way.

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I have hope for the community, we'll make it through with better sources and faster updates than what Sony had to offer us. Hopefully official Cyanogenmod comes our way.
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I would have hope if it wasn't for the fact that we don't have an official CM13 yet. All the builds of the CM12.1 are even nightlies and don't offer the audio and camera quality that Stock has. Let's be real, Sony sucks at open sourcing and the community can't do magic

Sure it sucks, but why is anyone surprised? The Z3 launched September of 2014, almost two years ago.
You really can't blame Sony, two years is pretty standard for updates. Even Google only gives two years of guaranteed updates for the Nexus line.

iirc the concept developers are trying to release the kernel sources, which would allow the devs on xda to build better roms.
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The Z3 is an really nice device. Sad to see that Sony say goodbye to us. I hope customs ROMS can help.

I have Android Nougat 7 Preview 4 running on my Xperia Z3 (and it spontaneously reboots 24 times a day which is a major problem that hopefully the real version will fix). I mean how can they NOT release a real version of Android Nougat?

Well the user base did come together and made Sony change their minds about Xperia M2 and lollipop update... At first it was cut out after which Sony later decided to roll out lollipop for that model...
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I think z3 shouldn't use mm or lollipop rom. Because the device will be very hot and it'll make touch screen died. I know someboby have to replace thier touch screen.

Sony cant release N for z3. Google/ Qualcomm removed msm8974 support from aosp N kernel. Sony would have to revert these commits which is the legal issues that the concept Dec was talking my about on g+

Silent8Strike said:
Sure it sucks, but why is anyone surprised? The Z3 launched September of 2014, almost two years ago.
You really can't blame Sony, two years is pretty standard for updates. Even Google only gives two years of guaranteed updates for the Nexus line.
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Meanwhile, Apple released the last iOS 9.3.4 on the iPhone 4S, released in 2011.
Talk about standards. SMH.

kansasboy001 said:
Sony cant release N for z3. Google/ Qualcomm removed msm8974 support from aosp N kernel. Sony would have to revert these commits which is the legal issues that the concept Dec was talking my about on g+
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This means no device with Snapdragon 800/801 will get N.
That's disappointing considering it was working fine on Dev Preview 3.

brianpee said:
This means no device with Snapdragon 800/801 will get N.
That's disappointing considering it was working fine on Dev Preview 3.
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I imagine it was a decision by Qualcomm to force people to get new phones so they sell more chips. And I bet we don't see and 801 devices get official N. Only 805 and later

moonwalker1 said:
iirc the concept developers are trying to release the kernel sources, which would allow the devs on xda to build better roms.
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That's mean if kernel sources is out, we can build Android 7 rom without Unlock Bootloader?