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Android 5.0 L for Z3

Greeting, if anyone knows when it will be available to Android 5.0 for Xperia Z3?
Something was discussed, it should come this year or next (Q1/2015)... It would be good if Sony starts thinking forward about the new android L...
Or we'll get a new update on Z3, while out new Z4..

zujko said:
Greeting, if anyone knows when it will be available to Android 5.0 for Xperia Z3?
Something was discussed, it should come this year or next (Q1/2015)... It would be good if Sony starts thinking forward about the new android L...
Or we'll get a new update on Z3, while out new Z4..
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Wait for Sony to announce their update roadmaps in the next few days

Probably we will all get in in Q1/2015
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http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/10...d-5-0-lollipop-to-the-entire-xperia-z-series/

Bäcker said:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/10...d-5-0-lollipop-to-the-entire-xperia-z-series/
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So that means we will get it 3 months from when the nexus devices get theirs. Its not fast update but its on par with other OEM's i guess.

Wow, Sony means xperia z will get android L update.... Fantastic!!!!

Good news. I will be holding onto my Nexus 5 until Christmas then, usually the carriers have devices on sale around then and also my upgrade fee will be less. SAWEEET!

viking2.0 said:
So that means we will get it 3 months from when the nexus devices get theirs. Its not fast update but its on par with other OEM's i guess.
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LOOL.... Nexus get out 6 of november, lollipop will land few days later on older nexus and GPE version of phone.
So it means sony have just one and half month to bring it to Z3 if they want to realease it for Z3 series, and you say its slow?
And for compare
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HTC One (M7) - Android 5.0 Lollipop update in 90 days
HTC One (M8) - Android 5.0 Lollipop update in 90 days
HTC One mini - Android 5.0 Lollipop update, schedule TBA
HTC One mini 2 - Android 5.0 Lollipop update, schedule TBA
Motorola have 4-5 phones, samsung few phones, lg 2 maybe and sony will update entire Z series.
This is briliant

Chance for better 3rd party camera apps?
Since several of the features in 5.0 look quite interesting for photography purposes, any guesses if these could be used for better 3rd party camera apps?
As seen on http://www.android.com/versions/lollipop-5-0/ :
A range of new professional photography features for Android Lollipop that let you
Capture full resolution frames around 30 fps
Support raw formats like YUV and Bayer RAW
Control capture settings for the sensor, lens, and flash per individual frame
Capture metadata like noise models and optical information

electrash said:
LOOL.... Nexus get out 6 of november, lollipop will land few days later on older nexus and GPE version of phone.
So it means sony have just one and half month to bring it to Z3 if they want to realease it for Z3 series, and you say its slow?
And for compare
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HTC One (M7) - Android 5.0 Lollipop update in 90 days
HTC One (M8) - Android 5.0 Lollipop update in 90 days
HTC One mini - Android 5.0 Lollipop update, schedule TBA
HTC One mini 2 - Android 5.0 Lollipop update, schedule TBA
Motorola have 4-5 phones, samsung few phones, lg 2 maybe and sony will update entire Z series.
This is briliant
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Sony states 5.0 will be released beginning of 2015. So assuming its end of Jan or early Feb then it is 3 months from the release of 5.0 to nexus devices. This could be the time frame for all the other OEM's except motorola which might release it in december. I would call that fast. I knew this before buying the device so i am not really bothered about it.

At least they have announced an intention to update those phones. Unlike Samsung...

Bäcker said:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/10...d-5-0-lollipop-to-the-entire-xperia-z-series/
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Wow, I am positively surprised that even my Xperia tablet z will get official lollipop. I thought that Sony was supposed to be bad at updating. Compared to my old Asus I feel that I am treated like a princess.
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So will there be any changes for an update for Z3 to Lollipop? When I had a Samsung/HTC update to 4.0, there weren't any major changes. Will the Z3 be able to run ART with even better battery saving capabilities? Anyone know what features might be added? Im interested to know if there will be any major changes, or if I should just wait for a Z4/Nexus 6 that will have the latest features instead of getting a slimmed down update.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks

Richie5767 said:
So will there be any changes for an update for Z3 to Lollipop? When I had a Samsung/HTC update to 4.0, there weren't any major changes. Will the Z3 be able to run ART with even better battery saving capabilities? Anyone know what features might be added? Im interested to know if there will be any major changes, or if I should just wait for a Z4/Nexus 6 that will have the latest features instead of getting a slimmed down update.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks
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If I read it correctly ART is the default runtime in lollipop so yeah... Guess it'll be able to run ART. And nobody knows what the exact changes will be... only sony.

I'm pretty sure Z3 will get L in late Jan - early Feb

viking2.0 said:
Sony states 5.0 will be released beginning of 2015. So assuming its end of Jan or early Feb then it is 3 months from the release of 5.0 to nexus devices. This could be the time frame for all the other OEM's except motorola which might release it in december. I would call that fast. I knew this before buying the device so i am not really bothered about it.
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Aye, let the Nexus users be the guinea pigs and do the testing for us - hopefully by that time it will be bug free is the way I see it

rooting lollipop may need a custom kernel ? (according to chainfire) this will make bootloader unlock and drm issue all the more interesting hehe
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CandyAndy said:
Wow, I am positively surprised that even my Xperia tablet z will get official lollipop. I thought that Sony was supposed to be bad at updating. Compared to my old Asus I feel that I am treated like a princess.
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Ah, yes, but because of the frequency of new models being released, it's easy to forget that the Z and Tablet Z actually only came out about 18 months ago - so are pretty much within the '18 month' window of getting supported.

I actually don't want Android 5 / L before it has stabilized. KitKat needed 5 iterations to settle (remember all the connectivity issues up and including 4.4.3?!).
Hence, completly agree with zoomee, let Nexus users do some testing and Google do some fixes first

Meanwhile, the Z2 STILL doesn't have 4.4.4

SONY XPERIA Z IS GETTING THE Android 5.0 Lollipop

"We’re bringing Android 5.0; Lollipop to the entire Xperia Z Series " SAID SONY today !!!
"You’ve probably seen Google unveil Android version 5.0; Lollipop…
Since the initial reveal of the Android “L” Developer Preview, we’ve seen lots of questions on our upgrade roadmap about our plans – so, here goes…
We’ll be making Sony Mobile’s Android “L” upgrade available for the entire premium Z series*: including Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia ZR, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia Z1, Xperia Z1S, Xperia Z Ultra, Xperia Z1 Compact, Xperia Z2, Xperia Z2 Tablet, Xperia Z3, Xperia Z3v, Xperia Z3 Compact and Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact. Sony Z Ultra Google Play edition devices will be first up – we’ll be back with more details on that soon.
We’ll start the upgrade at beginning of 2015 for the core Xperia Z3 and Xperia Z2 series – continuing thereafter for all remaining devices above.
We’ve been working hard to bring this major update to as many of our Z Series devices as we can, as quickly as we can. We’re really excited about the new Sony features & functionality and the improvements we’ve made to the user experience – and we’ll be sharing more soon… so stay tuned to the blog and @SonyMobileNews for all the latest and greatest.
*Software rollouts are a phased process – timings & availability will vary by market/operator. Most models supported but some operator/market exceptions will apply"
i love you Sony ! they really supported this device fair enough ) #respect for them
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/10/16/were-bringing-android-5-0-lollipop-to-the-entire-xperia-z-series/

Didn't expected android L on our Z, good job Sony

Sony the best

Amazing work Sony!!! You're rock!
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Thank you SONY ?

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Yep. -MOD EDIT-
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I was as well With that done by them my next device will be Sony for sure
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Any news about galaxy s4 Android Lollipop?
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All hail Sony!
Awesome that we are still getting the update. :good:

The Z is one of the best supported devices by Sony. I was happy with this unbelievable phone for 18 month and just bought an Z3 as a support for Sony great work. Keep it up

If I'm happy? yes.
But too bad we gonna get it about a year after the official release, just like every Android update =\

Wow that is awesome sony is the best:good:

woohoo! thank you sony!

UnbredHalflingers said:
If I'm happy? yes.
But too bad we gonna get it about a year after the official release, just like every Android update =\
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Come on now, let's not be silly. :silly:
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/06/19/whoa-android-4-4-4-factory-images-posted-as-build-kut84p/
4.4.4 released the 19th of June. We got it the beginning of September, well ahead of many other OEM's devices. Less than 3 months to bring up, produce, test, certify and release. Great going by Sony.
They could promise to support this device for the next 5 years and some people would still be negative.
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I'm actually shocked. Didn't expect another update whatsoever. Not that I'll probably make use of it due to my new upgrade in the new year but I'm happy that this phone is not being dropped

kingvortex said:
Come on now, let's not be silly. :silly:
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/06/19/whoa-android-4-4-4-factory-images-posted-as-build-kut84p/
4.4.4 released the 19th of June. We got it the beginning of September, well ahead of many other OEM's devices. Less than 3 months to bring up, produce, test, certify and release. Great going by Sony.
They could promise to support this device for the next 5 years and some people would still be negative.
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Agree with you. You deserve one Thanks..

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees Just SONY

When can we expect the update for Xperia Z?

CyrilThomas92 said:
When can we expect the update for Xperia Z?
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Is it so hard for you to read the first post entirely?
We’ll start the upgrade at beginning of 2015 for the core Xperia Z3 and Xperia Z2 series – continuing thereafter for all remaining devices above.[/QUOTE said:
Beginning could be the first 3 months of next year and then you have to wait 2 or 3 months more , just like with 4.4.4.
So probably in half a year you will have Lollipop 5..0.
Anytime sooner will be better, leys just be happy we got 4.4.4 at all and that now the 5.0 is comming.
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Maybe like KitKat. We receive 4.4 on May
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How about UI?
Its really a great news indeed. Thankful to Sony for their continuous support to Z especially.
Google's Android 5.0 Lollipop is completely a new UI, well known as Material design. Sony and other OEMs will build their own Stock ROM and interface. Now my question is, which may be too early to ask but yet a thought came in.. Will they retain L's material design? or they going to continue with their UI.
Well time can answer, will wait and see!

Google Announces Android M - Will Xperia Z1 Ever Get The Update?

Google announced the Android M update at I/O 2015 keynote. Android M takes Android L and optimizes the **** out of it.
- Better battery life
- Android Pay
- Fingerprint support
- USB Type-C
- Enhanced Google Now
- App Permissions
That's a power-packed features list, eh? More about Android M features here. Also, the Android M Developer Preview is already available.
I wonder if the Xperia Z1 would ever get the Android M update, seeing that the Android 5.1 Lollipop update itself won't arrive until August 2015.

highly doubt it!

Yes, an the Android XL also.

If the z had received lollipop, maybe z1 will get android m.......should be possible....

I also highly doubt Z1 will get it. As of right now, I only hope Z1 will receive a fully stable no bug (no battery drain, no sound vollume problem, etc.) 5.1. Besides, I don't think Z1 can get much benefits from M anyway (like those fingerprint support or usb-c or even Android Pay since it's clearly not available everywhere)

palkia171993 said:
I also highly doubt Z1 will get it. As of right now, I only hope Z1 will receive a fully stable no bug (no battery drain, no sound vollume problem, etc.) 5.1. Besides, I don't think Z1 can get much benefits from M anyway (like those fingerprint support or usb-c or even Android Pay since it's clearly not available everywhere)
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But under the hood improvements are always welcome
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But under the hood improvements are always welcome
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Sure an update is always welcomed. It's just that we shouldn't really get our hopes up. In my opinion, It's already Sony's best effort for Z1 if it get 5.1. By the time M is official released, Z1 will probably be way over the 18 month support period by Sony. But who know, just my guess, maybe Sony will surprise us (in a good way )

BTW, is there any dev working on porting Android M developer preview for the Xperia Z1?

I'd like Android M, but if we don't get it then 5.1 had better solve the issue with the mobile radio staying active and causing ridiculous amounts of battery drain.
I guess one thing to keep in mind is that the Z got 5.0.2, so perhaps they will only drop support for the Z given how different the hardware is, while the Z1, Z Ultra and Z1C all share very similar hardware. From what I can tell, the hardware hasn't changed all that much since the Z Ultra aside from the Z3+/Z4 which is using an octa-core S810 compared to the quad-core S800/S801 inside most of the rest of the Z series. Whether that has much sway on development time I wouldn't have any idea.

If they can include Auto Backup for Apps http://developer.android.com/preview/backup/index.html Also using your micro SD card as internal storage.... http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...or-accessed-normally-with-no-additional-apps/
That would be great for those who don't root their handset

Even Z can get updated to 5.1 i think Z1 can at least get 2 more major updates. So yes

Of course not. I understand we all love our devices, but guys, it's just marketing. However, let's hope someone ports it to our Z1, otherwise, we may need to buy something new in the near future.

Papanik said:
Of course not. I understand we all love our devices, but guys, it's just marketing. However, let's hope someone ports it to our Z1, otherwise, we may need to buy something new in the near future.
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Not really possible for me lol I just bought my Z1 1,5 months ago
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http://android.hdblog.it/2015/06/22/Sony-Android-M-Xperia-Z3-C-AOSP/ .. the answer is YES !

the binaries are up in the dev world of sony!
developer.sonymobile.com/downloads/tool/software-binaries-for-aosp-m-developer-preview/

i think it will recive M because the original z will also receve 5.1.1 so probably the z1 will recive the last android version as android M.

That's really nice! At least that smells good!

Sony will sell its mobile business before the Z1 gets M.

Android M for Xperia Z1
Good to know that even Xperia Z1 will get Android M update.
I did google to get some info. Below are some trusted links
neurogadget.com/2015/08/19/sony-xperia-z-z1-z2-z3-z3-compact-with-android-6-0-marshmallow-update/12855
developer.sonymobile.com/2015/06/22/android-m-developer-preview-available-for-xperia-devices-in-sonys-open-device-program/
Also there is tutorial on how to install Android M preview on Z1 at ibtimes.co.uk/how-update-xperia-z1-z2-z3-android-m-developer-preview-freexperia-rom-1510292
Enjoy...

All xperia flagships have lifetime support .

Xperia Z3 won't get Android N

http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/08/23/sony-xperia-and-android-7-0-nougat/
Sadly our device can't get Android N :crying:
[edit] http://www.phonearena.com/news/No-Nougat-for-your-Android-phone-You-might-want-to-blame-Qualcomm_id84543

snailpon said:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/08/23/sony-xperia-and-android-7-0-nougat/
Sadly our device can't get Android N :crying:
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Well, just as I thought. I have some hope on developers here, but considering how little work has been done with AOSP and CM I can't expect too much

ridiculous they were teased with devolved Android n
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Me too.. I will probably sell my D6603, Sony just disappointed me.
Anyway I'm open to suggestions

codeluca said:
Me too.. I will probably sell my D6603, Sony just disappointed me.
Anyway I'm open to suggestions
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Personaly I would go with OP3 or nexus devices. Good specs and developer friendly.

I like OP3 and Xiaomi mi5 but I would miss the SD card... I would consider Huawei P9 or LG G5, but these have poor developer support. Any alternative?
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Thank you Sony for making me absolutely sure that I'll never ever buy a Sony phone again.

Zox09 said:
Thank you Sony for making me absolutely sure that I'll never ever buy a Sony phone again.
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I have hope for the community, we'll make it through with better sources and faster updates than what Sony had to offer us. Hopefully official Cyanogenmod comes our way.

TheAvengingTITAN said:
I have hope for the community, we'll make it through with better sources and faster updates than what Sony had to offer us. Hopefully official Cyanogenmod comes our way.
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I would have hope if it wasn't for the fact that we don't have an official CM13 yet. All the builds of the CM12.1 are even nightlies and don't offer the audio and camera quality that Stock has. Let's be real, Sony sucks at open sourcing and the community can't do magic

Sure it sucks, but why is anyone surprised? The Z3 launched September of 2014, almost two years ago.
You really can't blame Sony, two years is pretty standard for updates. Even Google only gives two years of guaranteed updates for the Nexus line.

iirc the concept developers are trying to release the kernel sources, which would allow the devs on xda to build better roms.
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The Z3 is an really nice device. Sad to see that Sony say goodbye to us. I hope customs ROMS can help.

I have Android Nougat 7 Preview 4 running on my Xperia Z3 (and it spontaneously reboots 24 times a day which is a major problem that hopefully the real version will fix). I mean how can they NOT release a real version of Android Nougat?

Well the user base did come together and made Sony change their minds about Xperia M2 and lollipop update... At first it was cut out after which Sony later decided to roll out lollipop for that model...
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I think z3 shouldn't use mm or lollipop rom. Because the device will be very hot and it'll make touch screen died. I know someboby have to replace thier touch screen.

Sony cant release N for z3. Google/ Qualcomm removed msm8974 support from aosp N kernel. Sony would have to revert these commits which is the legal issues that the concept Dec was talking my about on g+

Silent8Strike said:
Sure it sucks, but why is anyone surprised? The Z3 launched September of 2014, almost two years ago.
You really can't blame Sony, two years is pretty standard for updates. Even Google only gives two years of guaranteed updates for the Nexus line.
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Meanwhile, Apple released the last iOS 9.3.4 on the iPhone 4S, released in 2011.
Talk about standards. SMH.

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Sony cant release N for z3. Google/ Qualcomm removed msm8974 support from aosp N kernel. Sony would have to revert these commits which is the legal issues that the concept Dec was talking my about on g+
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This means no device with Snapdragon 800/801 will get N.
That's disappointing considering it was working fine on Dev Preview 3.

brianpee said:
This means no device with Snapdragon 800/801 will get N.
That's disappointing considering it was working fine on Dev Preview 3.
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I imagine it was a decision by Qualcomm to force people to get new phones so they sell more chips. And I bet we don't see and 801 devices get official N. Only 805 and later

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iirc the concept developers are trying to release the kernel sources, which would allow the devs on xda to build better roms.
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That's mean if kernel sources is out, we can build Android 7 rom without Unlock Bootloader?

Android P

Do you guys think that the xperia x compact will get the update to Android P?

No. Z5 compact didn't get oreo, so X compact will not get P. Maybe we will get 8.1.

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Do you guys think that the xperia x compact will get the update to Android P?
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Probaly yes. Sony’s official Android upgrade policy, it that premium devices are supported for two years after the device has launched. X compact will complete two years in the end of this year, so probaly yes!

Blue-Haze said:
Probaly yes. Sony’s official Android upgrade policy, it that premium devices are supported for two years after the device has launched. X compact will complete two years in the end of this year, so probaly yes!
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And how can you explain that Z5C, released in late Sept. 2015, didn't get oreo, released in Aug. 2017? Support means security updates and not new Android versions.

Kong2000 said:
No. Z5 compact didn't get oreo, so X compact will not get P. Maybe we will get 8.1.
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Maybe germans will get x compact oreo update? Its a farce. I think P update only for XZ...

kullino said:
Maybe germans will get x compact oreo update? Its a farce. I think P update only for XZ...
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I don't understand. X compact already has oreo 8.0. Maybe it will get 8.1., but not P (9.x).

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And how can you explain that Z5C, released in late Sept. 2015, didn't get oreo, released in Aug. 2017? Support means security updates and not new Android versions.
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Well, first of all, Sony did not have a clear policy of commitment to update the software for a certain period, and decided to adopt two years, endorsing the line of updates made by Google.
In addition, Sandar Pichai, CEO's Google, during Pixel 2's presentation on October 4 last year, has ensured that it will take the necessary steps for manufacturers to make updates for the same period, encouraging frequent updates to the Android system, which is largely not the case yet.
About Z5 and the Z5 compact, I can not say specifically. For example, the Z3 compact did not receive the Android Nougat because of a technical issue related to some unforeseen limitations of the platform that did not allow updating. These include the need for updated devices to have graphics that support Vulkan and OpenGL ES 3.1. Thus, devices running Adreno 3XX graphics - present on Snapdragon 800 and Snapdragon 801 - can not be upgraded, since processors only support OpenGL ES 3.0. As I said earlier, Google has committed to ensure that these contingencies will be reduced within two years period. Thus, it is likely, however, not certain that Sony will be authorized to upgrade its devices to Android P, and following the internal policy of the company to carry out the updates.
So, let's hope

OK, you are obviously better informed than me. So let's see...

also it's worth mentioning that Sony was not very kind to z5 series in terms of upgrading and X series were much better, however let's not forget that X compact has the same processor as the X so it's either they update both these phones to P or they update neither of them because X was released 6 months before Xc (if Im not mistaken) so the support would be over soon if not already...

They did update the Xperia Z to lollipop 5.1, almost 2 and a half years after it was launched, so maybe the X will get Android P as well; then again, 5.1 wasn't a huge update from 5.0, so, the probability is quite low that either the X Compact or the X will get the update.
Let's hope there won't be a performance dip if we do get the update tho.

I don't think so.
I can't be sure, it's more a sensation.
Maybe we'll get 8.1.
Or worse, left to "patched" 8.0.