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Battery Drain from Google search

As the title implies, Google Search has been accounting for about, 19% of battery usage. I have cleared data and cache. App can be stopped, but it restarts. I see no option to disable. Phone is stock and unrooted. Any ideas?
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Root it root it lol there's no option to disable in settings>personalize? Or u can download advance task killer from the playstore https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rechild.advancedtaskkiller
HTC ONE M8?

Best way to rid yourself of battery robbers is root it (if you dont mind loosing warranty) and use titanium backup to freeze it...(and others) along with greenify and wake lock detector to find other stuff that keeps the phone awake.....

Thanks, guys. I agree the only real solution would be to root. I'll probably be upgrading before too long anyway.
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Root, Facebook, and battery life

After rooting my H810, I was unable to Greenify Facebook, as it was recognized as a system app (preinstalled bloat), and seemed to be a major battery hog. I was also limited on how I could limit its permissions.
I used Titanium Backup to delete that FB app, then reinstalled it from the market. That version was able to be Greenified, and there is more control over permissions. Since then, I have seen a considerable improvement in battery life. I've been unplugged since 6:20 this morning and I'm still at 76% right now at 2:26! I don't know if there was something rogue going on with the FB app behind the scenes, but I see a huge improvement. Far too significant to be a placebo.

What permissions did you limit?
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Supersanborn said:
What permissions did you limit?
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Every single one except location. I usually have that turned off on my phone anyway.

Eric618 said:
Every single one except location. I usually have that turned off on my phone anyway.
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How do you update permissions?

Eric618 said:
After rooting my H810, I was unable to Greenify Facebook, as it was recognized as a system app (preinstalled bloat), and seemed to be a major battery hog. I was also limited on how I could limit its permissions.
I used Titanium Backup to delete that FB app, then reinstalled it from the market. That version was able to be Greenified, and there is more control over permissions. Since then, I have seen a considerable improvement in battery life. I've been unplugged since 6:20 this morning and I'm still at 76% right now at 2:26! I don't know if there was something rogue going on with the FB app behind the scenes, but I see a huge improvement. Far too significant to be a placebo.
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Then if so get the premium version of greenify which lets you hibernate system apps

Apps like facebook and clean master eats up the major system resources and put a heavy load on the ram and processor..this is a proven thing..and not a personal opinion..
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There's Debloater, so you don't even need root to get rid of the bloat. I also noticed a huge improvement in battery life and responsiveness after clearing out a ton of crap!

I haven't tested this. But I thought I saw someone mention that even if you Debloat an included bloatware app, you can't simply install a replacement (updated version). The phone considers it already installed.
My apologies if a have this wrong. But it sounded like root would be required to replace apps that cannot normally be uninstalled, as was described above.

Did you freeze the Facebook system app or completely uninstall it?
I'm afraid of getting security errors on boot if a system app is missing

RedOCtobyr said:
I haven't tested this. But I thought I saw someone mention that even if you Debloat an included bloatware app, you can't simply install a replacement (updated version). The phone considers it already installed.
My apologies if a have this wrong. But it sounded like root would be required to replace apps that cannot normally be uninstalled, as was described above.
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That may be true. I think Debloater does the same as going to the app in the Apps menu and disabling it. I disabled Facebook that way, and it showed up as blocked in Debloater before I'd ever actually blocked anything. (But Debloater lets you disable apps that the menu doesn't.) I don't use Facebook so I haven't tried to install another version.

I completely uninstalled it with TI, rebooted, then installed it fresh from the market. Then I locked down permissions and Greenified.

Eric618 said:
I completely uninstalled it with TI, rebooted, then installed it fresh from the market. Then I locked down permissions and Greenified.
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How do you change the permissions?

elsamuraiguapo said:
How do you change the permissions?
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I use App Ops by Nowsky. It's available in the Play Store.

Wakelock Detector app (not rooted)

Hi all! I have been experiencing unexplained battery drain with Android OS, Android System and Google Play Services in top 3 along with Screen. I need some app to detect which app/service is causing the Wakelocks so that I can take action. I cannot root due to restrictions on my corporate apps and they will stop working after root, which doesn't help. So I am looking for some app which can show wakelocks when I am not rooted.
Previously on Nexus 5 I had used 'Wakelock Detector' app, which had ADB workaround to make the app work even if your are not rooted. But unfortunately after Marshmallow update it stopped working.
BR//Sumit

Thanks

sumit0110 said:
Hi all! I have been experiencing unexplained battery drain with Android OS, Android System and Google Play Services in top 3 along with Screen. I need some app to detect which app/service is causing the Wakelocks so that I can take action. I cannot root due to restrictions on my corporate apps and they will stop working after root, which doesn't help. So I am looking for some app which can show wakelocks when I am not rooted.
Previously on Nexus 5 I had used 'Wakelock Detector' app, which had ADB workaround to make the app work even if your are not rooted. But unfortunately after Marshmallow update it stopped working.
BR//Sumit
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you may try this-
ww.teamandroid.com/2012/07/30/how-to-set-up-adb-fastboot-with-android-sdk/2/[/url]

Wakelock Detector works fine for me

Greenifying Motorola System Apps

Everyone around uses greenify, but I am on stock and not rooted. I have greenified almost every other system app. Anyone who has a decent hold over knowledge when it comes too greenifying system apps can tell me which ones are safe and which ones shouldnt be greenified ? Thanks in advance.

i greenifying motorola update, device management, Rescue Add-on:Motorola, initializing services motorola; and deleted moto care/int .
motorola modality services its for "moto screen" and shouldnt disable if u use that.
i want to know more too ;D

ProudRed said:
Everyone around uses greenify, but I am on stock and not rooted. I have greenified almost every other system app. Anyone who has a decent hold over knowledge when it comes too greenifying system apps can tell me which ones are safe and which ones shouldnt be greenified ? Thanks in advance.
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I don't think its necessary anymore to greenify system apps since android 6. Its better to disable the moto and google services in settings > apps. Disabling also prevents the services to start when booting and saves more power and memory.

Even I have disabled these apps but battery keeps draining as most of the system apps are awake all the time. So to save more and squeeze more battery life I was wondering if its safe to hibernate motorola services and apps.
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ProudRed said:
Even I have disabled these apps but battery keeps draining as most of the system apps are awake all the time. So to save more and squeeze more battery life I was wondering if its safe to hibernate motorola services and apps.
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follow this to disable even more system apps www.xda-developers.com/setting-up-android-marshmallow-without-google/
just greenify all user apps and turn auto hibernation on that should be enough IMO.

bablu048 said:
follow this to disable even more system apps www.xda-developers.com/setting-up-android-marshmallow-without-google/
just greenify all user apps and turn auto hibernation on that should be enough IMO.
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Link not working. However I know about automated hibernation.. But with no root device there is hardly any scope for deep hibernation.
Edit : worked from laptop.
PS : This needs custom recovery ?
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ProudRed said:
Link not working. However I know about automated hibernation.. But with no root device there is hardly any scope for deep hibernation.
Edit : worked from laptop.
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just google "setting up marshmallow without Google xda ". or open that link in PC or another browser because it is opening in my browser.

bablu048 said:
just google "setting up marshmallow without Google xda ". or open that link in PC or another browser because it is opening in my browser.
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Done, this needs custom recovery ? I am on stock and not rooted.

ProudRed said:
Done, this needs custom recovery ? I am on stock and not rooted.
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no, you don't even need to root... just go to settings--apps--show system and start disabling according to the guide whatever you don't need.

I never greenify system apps since android lollipop and never have had strange battery drains so far. Its normal that a lot of system apps are running in the background, thats why they call it a smartphone. Just auto greenify your user apps and disable all services you don't use in android settings. And don't use wakelock detectors, because it only makes you crazy seeing how much services are running in the background which is completely normal. You can auto hibernate user apps without root, only takes a little longer to hibernate.

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bablu048 said:
no, you don't even need to root... just go to settings--apps--show system and start disabling according to the guide whatever you don't need.
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You should go through the article once, clearly talks about custom recovery, running commands. There is no option to run command from stock recovery.

ProudRed said:
You should go through the article once, clearly talks about custom recovery, running commands. There is no option to run command from stock recovery.
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That is for removing Google products totally... Go to the end of the article it has a list of products which you can disable without causing any problems.

Have successfully removed all the google apps. Only issue is Ola cabs app doesnt work without play services and still looking for a proper standalone YouTube app. Plus contacts synchronisation app if available.. Rest I have replaced allmost all.
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Marshmallow 6.0.1 App permission (waking up device)

Hi all,
I have a question regarding the new app permission management in Marshmallow 6.0.1. In Lollipop (5.1.1) we used to have the option to prevent an app from waking up the device or keeping it awake. I used to uncheck that box for Google Play services as this was constantly running and eating up my battery. When I go through the new extended Marshmallow app management, I get several options that i can allow or deny (body sensors, calendars, camera, contacts, location, etc. see attached screenshot). But nowhere can I find the option to prevent the app/service from waking up or keeping the device awake.
Anyone know where I can find this or how to do this in Marshmallow?

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Hi all,
I have a question regarding the new app permission management in Marshmallow 6.0.1. In Lollipop (5.1.1) we used to have the option to prevent an app from waking up the device or keeping it awake. I used to uncheck that box for Google Play services as this was constantly running and eating up my battery. When I go through the new extended Marshmallow app management, I get several options that i can allow or deny (body sensors, calendars, camera, contacts, location, etc. see attached screenshot). But nowhere can I find the option to prevent the app/service from waking up or keeping the device awake.
Anyone know where I can find this or how to do this in Marshmallow?
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Use latest package disabler for preventing apps to awake the phone or updated through Google play
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zizon65 said:
Use latest package disabler for preventing apps to awake the phone or updated through Google play
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Is that the only way for now?

That's the appropriate way I know
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That's the appropriate way I know
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What I can find in the Play Store is Package Disabler Pro (Samsung). From the description and the screenshots I see you can enable/disable apps/services. I can do that already with Titanium Backup. But I can't disable the Google Play services, I just want to keep them from waking up the device, or keeping it awake while screen is off.

OneTruth said:
What I can find in the Play Store is Package Disabler Pro (Samsung). From the description and the screenshots I see you can enable/disable apps/services. I can do that already with Titanium Backup. But I can't disable the Google Play services, I just want to keep them from waking up the device, or keeping it awake while screen is off.
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Yes but with Package Disabler Pro for Samsung you can do things, that you can't with TTB, in one word it's more powerful
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zizon65 said:
Yes but with Package Disabler Pro for Samsung you can do things, that you can't with TTB, in one word it's more powerful
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TB does what it needs to do for me, as I'm not looking for anything beyond what it can do. Just freeze apps/services I don't use and every once in a while a backup. I just need something good that can prevent an app from waking up device, just like the basic functionality we had in Lollipop in the app management section.

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Yes but with Package Disabler Pro for Samsung you can do things, that you can't with TTB, in one word it's more powerful
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You're completely missing his point. He doesn't want to disable google play services, he wants to prevent it from waking up the phone.
Package Disabler Pro is more powerful than TB? I hope you're trolling.
OneTruth said:
TB does what it needs to do for me, as I'm not looking for anything beyond what it can do. Just freeze apps/services I don't use and every once in a while a backup. I just need something good that can prevent an app from waking up device, just like the basic functionality we had in Lollipop in the app management section.
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As far as I can tell, the doze feature is supposed to be in charge of preventing wakelocks and keep your phone from staying awake. So Google probably thought that denying the stay awake permission isn't needed anymore. Tbh, it denying 'stay awake' in app permissions in previous builds on android didn't do much for battery life, at least for me. Some things you could try is cleaning google play services data, and deleting google now if you dont use it.

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You're completely missing his point. He doesn't want to disable google play services, he wants to prevent it from waking up the phone.
Package Disabler Pro is more powerful than TB? I hope you're trolling.
As far as I can tell, the doze feature is supposed to be in charge of preventing wakelocks and keep your phone from staying awake. So Google probably thought that denying the stay awake permission isn't needed anymore. Tbh, it denying 'stay awake' in app permissions in previous builds on android didn't do much for battery life, at least for me. Some things you could try is cleaning google play services data, and deleting google now if you dont use it.
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You did not understand me either! What I've said is that Package Disabler Pro not only can prevent app from waking up the phone, but can prevent such app from updated by Google play service.
I also maintain that Package Disabler Pro is more powerful than TTB in terms of preventing an app from doing anything even operating in the background.
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@Bhavpreet I think for me it did quite the thing. Before I disabled apps/services I didn't need I saw Google Play Services popping up in the battery stats a lot. Once I hit the switch and didn't allow the service to wake up the phone or keep it awake, it disappeared from the battery stats.
Currently, from what I can see in the battery stats, the play service is running 4 things:
- Google Service Framework
- Google Play Services
- Google Backup Transport
- Google Account Manager
I have the backup to cloud enabled for contacts/notes/etc. Which one of the above is safe to freeze without interfering in that process?
@zizon65 Are you talking about freezing/disabling an app? Or only stopping it from waking up the device, but leaving the service/app intact for when you manually open it?

@OneTruth it could be achieved by using xposed for the module appopsxposed though I only tested it under cm13 on another phone

zizon65 said:
You did not understand me either! What I've said is that Package Disabler Pro not only can prevent app from waking up the phone, but can prevent such app from updated by Google play service.
I also maintain that Package Disabler Pro is more powerful than TTB in terms of preventing an app from doing anything even operating in the background.
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He does not want to disable it, he just wants to stop it from waking the device. Disabling google play services effectively transforms your device into a dumb phone, whats the point?
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@Bhavpreet I think for me it did quite the thing. Before I disabled apps/services I didn't need I saw Google Play Services popping up in the battery stats a lot. Once I hit the switch and didn't allow the service to wake up the phone or keep it awake, it disappeared from the battery stats.
Currently, from what I can see in the battery stats, the play service is running 4 things:
- Google Service Framework
- Google Play Services
- Google Backup Transport
- Google Account Manager
I have the backup to cloud enabled for contacts/notes/etc. Which one of the above is safe to freeze without interfering in that process?
@zizon65 Are you talking about freezing/disabling an app? Or only stopping it from waking up the device, but leaving the service/app intact for when you manually open it?
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You wont be able to remove any of those 4 services without breaking google play services as a whole afaik. I don't even use google for my backup account, but i still have backup transport eating at my battery. Google Services, on average, uses 1-4% of my battery, usually on the lower end. Like I said, clear its data and cache, give it a restart, and see if that helps. I also recommend turning off auto update in the playstore, and deleting google now data and app and reinstalling it.
Last option, and this will definitely work considering you upgraded, factory reset the device.
Also, PDP disables apps, meaning it completely gets rid of them from your device until theyre enabled again, which is not a solution to your problem.

@Bhavpreet How com this was possible in Lollipop without breaking anything? Everything was running perfectly for me, without Google Play Services ever showing up in the battery stats. So I won't be factory resetting. Clearing cache already did that, no result. Will try out @Zenroid solution.

I think this is doing the trick. Will post back with results after the next full charge.
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@OneTruth it could be achieved by using xposed for the module appopsxposed though I only tested it under cm13 on another phone
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