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Waiting 4.2..

Hi all,
we have just stopped to wait for the 4.1 Jelly Bean... and there are already some rumors about the 4.2 K release in November.
Do you think we will see an official 4.2 update for our Nexus S?

I'm guessing Key Lime Pie will be announced with the new Nexus phone(s) sometime before the end of this year. If you have a Nexus device then you will get the update eventually. That's the assurance of buying a Nexus phone*.
*Unless you bought a CDMA Nexus.
But really even if the Nexus S is a bit old, it would be a sad to see Google stops supporting it when the hardware is still capable.

giaomnitel1 said:
Hi all,
Do you think we will see an official 4.2 update for our Nexus S?
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I'm going to guess no.. Nexus S is EOL and Google has to stop wasting resources on it sooner or later and I'm going to guess 4.1.1 was just that. Android Police server logs show 4.2 running on Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7, and two other non-nexus devices. Nothing showing up for Nexus S running 4.2 though.

If this is the case, we can hope the drivers from 4.1.1 will be usable in 4.2.
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The current Android version for Nexus S (4.1.1) is too much bugged to be the last release. I expect a 4.1.2 or a 4.2 version. Or a Lumia 920.

I'd still like to think that my Nexus S will get the KLP update. After all, 4.2 is not that big an update from 4.1. If however, for some reason Google chooses to drop support for the crespo for that, I won't really blame them as the Crespo has definitely seen better days, and as a veteran for the Android cause, no one can say it hasn't been utilized to its fullest.
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In my opinion Jelly Bean is, with high probability, the last update we will receive.
Anyway I don't think Google will announce another Android version since the 4.1 was release only 3 months ago!

Well,
This is just rumor
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...w-phone-and-a-new-nexus-tablet-both-motorola/
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Someone's trolling Android Police's server logs. JOO92 is an invalid build number. Build numbers don't go higher than 90. JOO92 would be JOP02. Notice in the Android Police article, they show both JOO92 AND JOP02. Hmmm...sounds like someone realized the build number wasn't right, updated it, and hit the site again. This is total troll material.
Another piece of circumstantial evidence (though it may mean nothing)..."O" is a heretofore unseen branch identifier. We know "R" (like JRO03C, GRJ22, etc) is the release branch. We've also seen T (GTJ61), F (JFN53N), W (HWI69, GWK74), C (ICL53F), M (IML74K), and maybe a few others, but I don't think "O" is one that has been used before. Again, doesn't necessarily mean Google doesn't use it for something, but whatever.
The only point here is that the troll gave himself up with JOO92. Fail. BS.

ekerazha said:
The current Android version for Nexus S (4.1.1) is too much bugged to be the last release. I expect a 4.1.2 or a 4.2 version. Or a Lumia 920.
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I do not think it is "too much bugged", but there is still something not working properly...
As you said, it would not be so much good if JB 4.1.1 is the latest build for our Nexus S...

After just getting a Nexus 7 I'm even more convincing the Nexus S will never see 4.2.. Jellybean is absolutely amazing on high end hardware... Ermagerd! Love my Nexus S but I just had a reality check. :laugh:

styckx said:
After just getting a Nexus 7 I'm even more convincing the Nexus S will never see 4.2.. Jellybean is absolutely amazing on high end hardware... Ermagerd! Love my Nexus S but I just had a reality check. :laugh:
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Yeah, Jelly Bean runs amazingly well on the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 7. It turned the Xoom into a brand new tablet. The Nexus S, not so much. You can tell the hardware has a hard time with it.

styckx said:
After just getting a Nexus 7 I'm even more convincing the Nexus S will never see 4.2.. Jellybean is absolutely amazing on high end hardware... Ermagerd! Love my Nexus S but I just had a reality check. :laugh:
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Realized the same and sold my nexus s and got a gnex
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Can we at least wait until the next update is announced before saying we want it? Or a least shown in some way or another.

I think the ns will get 4.2, maybe a 'light' version, but I think we will get it. But if they release something like 5.0, there's no way
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Most of the rumors I have heard are saying that 4.2 will still be jellybean. Try googling "project roadrunner"
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hlxanthus said:
Most of the rumors I have heard are saying that 4.2 will still be jellybean. Try googling "project roadrunner"
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If the 4.2 is still Jelly Bean, we can still hope we will get it ...

guys, the n1 just lost support with jb, and afaik, the devs even still managed to hack the crap out of it to make it load....I think it'll be a cold day in hell before devs give up on ns since it's still under 2 years old.

hp420 said:
guys, the n1 just lost support with jb
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Incorrect. The Nexus One lost support with Ice Cream Sandwich. The N1's last official OTA from Google was Gingerbread, 2.3.6/GRK39F.
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I think the Nexus S is done, but I'm happy with the two major updates we got (ICS & JB). We've gotta be thankful that the Nexus S/4G got more support over it's lifetime than most manufacturers do with their whole line of phones. :good:

No lime pie 5.0 for nexus 7

http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...o-Galaxy-Note-8-0-Galaxy-S4-S3-and-few-others.
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i think they are referring to samsung devices only

its a list from samfirmware
about samsung devices only
did you really think only samsung devices would get keylime pie?:silly: :laugh:

No pessimism allowed.
It's a Nexus, and less than a year old at that. Have faith...

pcarenza said:
It's a Nexus, and less than a year old at that. Have faith...
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No pessimism allowed... indeed... and AGREED!
Of course there's going to be a version of KLP for the Nexus 7!
Seems to me to be inevitable.
Not a case of 'if', but 'when' ... which of course, is the metaphorical Six Million Dollar Question.
So, I would recommend people just enjoy whatever ROM/Kernel configuration they currently have installed on this terrific little device... and instead of attempting to gainsay the future... let the future take care of itself - (it usually does, you know).
And when KLP eventually shows up for the N7, (as I'm sure it will, at some point)... we'll enjoy it all the more.
(And this is from a cynical, hardcore pessimist).
Rgrds,
Ged.

i am only basing this on gut instinct but i have a feeling our beloved nexus 7 might not get 5.0

hey mate!! im hoping your right

Its one of many Google babies that have yet to grow up and move on. We will get it, just a matter of time.
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chrisnewton said:
i am only basing this on gut instinct but i have a feeling our beloved nexus 7 might not get 5.0
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It's still well within the life cycle for official updates.
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I'm quite sure that the Nexus 7 will get KLP... If you look at the "Factory Images for Nexus Devices", you can see the other Nexus devices and how long they have been officially updated...

This thread is a waste of time, lock it down.
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I do believe we will get the Android 5.0. First of all, this is a nexus device, google's flagship line of devices. Second, nexus devices will get the latest updates FIRST before any other carriers. And Third, I think that the Nexus 7 has the capacity to run the KLP( I mean its still quad core right?).

Nexus 7 will deffo get KLP.
This is a samsung specific report, they are the devices in samsungs line that will recieve it.
Google isn't going to make KLP and not put it on their own devices.

rwilpstra said:
I'm quite sure that the Nexus 7 will get KLP... If you look at the "Factory Images for Nexus Devices", you can see the other Nexus devices and how long they have been officially updated...
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my nexus 7 and original nexus phone both got jellybean pretty much within a week of release..... and far before my s3

How long google will give update for nexus 4 ?

Hi,
How long Google will provide updates for Nexus 4 after Nexus 5 is out ???
Thanks.

well, let's put it this way: galaxy nexus is technically a 2011 device (q4 2011) and it still gets updates. nexus s is a 2010 device (q4 2010) and it does not. the last update for nexus s was 4.1.2 late last year. I would expect about another year to a year and a half of updates....give or take a few months. Depending on the update schedule in that time period, there's a chance we would see 6.x or a very late 5.x build as our final update.
I'm obviously just speculating, but this is all based on past history with nexii, so please don't start a battle over this, anyone and scream for proof or anything lol

probably untill the end of next year...
It is MUCH more powerfull than Galaxy Nexus, so it may go even further...

hp420 said:
well, let's put it this way: galaxy nexus is technically a 2011 device (q4 2011) and it still gets updates. nexus s is a 2010 device (q4 2010) and it does not. the last update for nexus s was 4.1.2 late last year. I would expect about another year to a year and a half of updates....give or take a few months. Depending on the update schedule in that time period, there's a chance we would see 6.x or a very late 5.x build as our final update.
I'm obviously just speculating, but this is all based on past history with nexii, so please don't start a battle over this, anyone and scream for proof or anything lol
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Hi,
Thanks for the info.

18 months is the promised duration. any more than that is a blessing..
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As mentioned above, we would mostly see updates till the latest 5.x build or maybe even the 6.x build. What's interesting though is that starting from 5.0 Google is supposedly focusing on making android a smooth experience even on low power single core 512 MB RAM devices (did the nexus one have similar specs?). So maybe we might even see updates for 2 years or so. Just speculating. Even if we don't, we've always got these amazing devs, hats off to them.
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tiru.adi13 said:
As mentioned above, we would mostly see updates till the latest 5.x build or maybe even the 6.x build. What's interesting though is that starting from 5.0 Google is supposedly focusing on making android a smooth experience even on low power single core 512 MB RAM devices (did the nexus one have similar specs?). So maybe we might even see updates for 2 years or so. Just speculating. Even if we don't, we've always got these amazing devs, hats off to them.
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if they build for 512mb ram all legacy nexus devices are covered
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...-S,Samsung-GALAXY-Nexus/phones/4512,4990,5595

While the Nexus 4 Hardware can handle it.
4.1.2 for the Nexus S made it a little less snappy, that's why it was the latest update for the Nexus S.

muldy said:
While the Nexus 4 Hardware can handle it.
4.1.2 for the Nexus S made it a little less snappy, that's why it was the latest update for the Nexus S.
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yeah, but if the rumors are true, 5.0 will be better optimized for devices like nexus s with low ram. ram consumption is the biggest issue with running jelly bean on older devices right now.

kikloo said:
Hi,
How long Google will provide updates for Nexus 4 after Nexus 5 is out ???
Thanks.
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Until 2015

Since the specs on current gen phones are so good now, the N4 could probably be supported for many years.
Most Android updates need/recommend 1GB of RAM and a basic dual core processor.

[Q] Will Kikat 4.4 be released to Nexus 4?

As above.
I´m quite interrested to get an answer on that question. :laugh:
Thanks!
-Notarmaso

You obviously don't understand the reason of buying a Nexus device. You buy a Nexus device not because of specs but because it runs pure Android and gets updated and supported straight from Google for years to come.
It is one of the sole reasons for owning a Nexus. If Kit-Kat were not to come to the N4 it would ruin everything that the Nexus line stood for.

Notarmaso said:
As above.
I´m quite interrested to get an answer on that question. :laugh:
Thanks!
-Notarmaso
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Yes, GOOGLE NEXUS 4 will be the first device to get the kitkat 4.4 update, provided it is not released with/in Nexus 5.
Press thanks if I helped you. :good:

[email protected] said:
You obviously don't understand the reason of buying a Nexus device. You buy a Nexus device not because of specs but because it runs pure Android and gets updated and supported straight from Google for years to come.
It is one of the sole reasons for owning a Nexus. If Kit-Kat were not to come to the N4 it would ruin everything that the Nexus line stood for.
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I have been a proud owner of my nexus 4 in many month, I know that the nexus would get all updates, but I read 10 Places that it onl y would be released for nexus 5 in october, and that's why I asked in here. Thanks!

No, only for Nexus S.

Logic says that KitKat will be first seen on Nexus 5 on release date, and after that we, nexus 4 owners, will receive it too.
Google would definitely want to show off KK on its new device first. Thats my guess.

Notarmaso said:
I have been a proud owner of my nexus 4 in many month, I know that the nexus would get all updates, but I read 10 Places that it onl y would be released for nexus 5 in october, and that's why I asked in here. Thanks!
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Well that can be correct. No one knows what month it will be released in for the N4. I am sure it will be released first with the N5 and then to the N4 shortly after.
Heck, nothing has even been officially announced yet so no one knows what month anything is being released yet.

Rohit02 said:
Yes, GOOGLE NEXUS 4 will be the first device to get the kitkat 4.4 update, provided it is not released with/in Nexus 5.
Press thanks if I helped you. :good:
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Well I misunderstood something then, I read many different Places that NEXUS 5 would be the first device with Kitkat 4.4
I voted :good:

They won't discontinue the nexus 4 and gnex at the same time
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Notarmaso said:
I have been a proud owner of my nexus 4 in many month, I know that the nexus would get all updates, but I read 10 Places that it onl y would be released for nexus 5 in october, and that's why I asked in here. Thanks!
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What was the reasoning for those statements by those 10 places? Bring a few examples, I want to see how they came up with that. I have heard the opposite, that kitkat will be built so that older and weaker devices could run it also, which is based on one sentence "It's our goal with Android KitKat to make an amazing Android experience available for everybody." - doesnt sound like "its our goal to make it exclusive for the next nexus".

manpildo said:
What was the reasoning for those statements by those 10 places? Bring a few examples, I want to see how they came up with that. I have heard the opposite, that kitkat will be built so that older and weaker devices could run it also, which is based on one sentence "It's our goal with Android KitKat to make an amazing Android experience available for everybody." - doesnt sound like "its our goal to make it exclusive for the next nexus".
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Youtube - Techrader etc.

Notarmaso said:
Youtube - Techrader etc.
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Be concrete. Saying my source is youtube is like saying my source is google.

The Nexus 4 isn't even a year old yet...

kitkat will be released to all nexus 4 besides for yours. yes, goigle is watching you specifically :silly:

Android L for Nexus 7 2012 ?

Anyone think we have a chance for it?

probably not officially, but from what we have xda
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We will have it for sure. But official is kind of unknown atm because only preview images for the nexus 5 and nexus 7 (I guess the 2013 model)will be avalible tomorrow. I guess wait and see what the devs can do overall we are still rocking a nexus device. Right?

I think 4.4.4 is latest officialy update but not last one, we have xda.
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I should have been more clear. I would not assume, nor do I think we will get it officially. BUT....I am not even sure if we will have it unofficially as the ROM has to function with Tegra 3 APIs due to the new graphics abilities. yes/no?

who knows.
the code has not been released yet, so nobody can tell at the moment.

carlo93 said:
who knows.
the code has not been released yet, so nobody can tell at the moment.
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Good point. Just thought is would be fun to theorize about the possibility. It would really "renew" the 2012 models viability.

carlo93 said:
who knows.
the code has not been released yet, so nobody can tell at the moment.
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you can say it for let's say 70% that it will come UNOFFICIAL because most custom roms have a backward compatible framework. So that e.g. drivers that are not supported by a newer android version can still be used in that version or a CPU feature is missing e.g. neon in the 2X. Google stopped the support for non neon devices I think in android 4.2.2 and guess what, the 2X is rocking Android 4.4.4

Think that Nexus 7 (2012) not have ART compilation and Android L is only ART. Not official Android L for N7.
But... the community will bring us Android L

I trust on xda for android L in my nexus :highfive:

Android L developer preview image officially live for "flo" (Nexus 7 2013) here: https://developer.android.com/preview/setup-sdk.html#top
Shall the port begins now?

I think we'll have it, the dev on Google IO session talking about Material Design said they "tested the 60fps performance on the original Nexus 7"
This at least proved they have a L build for us, the matter is will they release it to us.
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If not official I hope devs can come through. I remember honeycomb was being ported to phones so yeah devs here on theses forums are amazing

Don't worry, we'll get it. I asked the Android team during the Android Fireside Chat how L will run on low end devices and they said they began testing and development on the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 7 (2012). So L was actually designed for our tablet and will obviously have an official build! :highfive:

Smith7018 said:
Don't worry, we'll get it. I asked the Android team during the Android Fireside Chat how L will run on low end devices and they said they began testing and development on the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 7 (2012). So L was actually designed for our tablet and will obviously have an official build! :highfive:
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Great info!

I don't know...the nexus 4 is not even receiving any love and its really a smaller N7 2013.
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I agree that L will make it to our 2012 tablets. We are not dead yet and I'm not upgrading until the new nexus 8 is out myself. Good times! ?

dpunx said:
Think that Nexus 7 (2012) not have ART compilation and Android L is only ART. Not official Android L for N7.
But... the community will bring us Android L
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That's not good news I have an old app that I use every day that hasn't been updated in 3 years and doesn't worth with ART

dpunx said:
Think that Nexus 7 (2012) not have ART compilation and Android L is only ART. Not official Android L for N7.
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It has been proven by several custom ROMs that ART runs on the 2012 Nexus 7. So it's just a matter of Google officially enable ART on the 2012 Nexus 7.
But I actually don't think that we'll get the official L Update. Google wants us to upgrade to the newer N7 or even the rumored Nexus 8.

Smith7018 said:
Don't worry, we'll get it. I asked the Android team during the Android Fireside Chat how L will run on low end devices and they said they began testing and development on the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 7 (2012). So L was actually designed for our tablet and will obviously have an official build! :highfive:
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This doesn't really mean anything. Google may work with older devices during development to ensure performance and quality of Material on older hardware, but doesn't necessarily mean they will create an official build for consumers.