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I'm upgrading tonight and finally ditching the Droid X. I'm either getting the HTC Rezound or the Droid Razr Maxx. Both have tons of pros and cons. I need your opinions. Please help!
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Maxx from a prior owner of one should of never got rid of that thing
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Have you tried the rezound as well?
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Yes from a friend
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I went from a Droid X to a Razr Maxx... what a great phone. I can't say enough good things about it.
Is it easy to root the maxx? Or has Motorola made it a pain in the ass to deal with the bootloader?
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I haven't used either, but from a pure hardware POV, the Rezound dominates. Dual core clocked at 1.5, better screen PPI IIRC, dual LED flash, better FFC, plus the unlockable boot loader allowing for a much larger, more active dev community. If it hasn't received official ICS yet, I believe some leaked ROMs are out there and like the Razr, it's going to get official ICS sooner rather than later.
If you're looking to rom and tweak the Rezound would probably be the better bet.
But if you're just looking for great battery life and a solid stock software build, go with the Razr Maxx.
Or you could always get a Galaxy Nexus.
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I am on Verizon - the only reason I would like to root is to avoid the tether fee... would like to occasionally hook up my laptop or android tablet through the WiFi... like a large screen... Thanks - Dan
If the Razr is at all like the D3 (and newer Moto phones IIRC), tethering is blocked and even the apps don't work without first manually rewriting the radio's hex signatures. The Rezound can most likely take custom kernels and thus have native tethering.
Hello, my verizon contract is expiring and that means time to get a new android device! I previously had an xperia play, and I probably won't be missing it very much since it never got anything official past gingerbread. Anyways I really wanted to know is how moddable the razr is, like if I were to get on with my new contract would the current root and bootloader exploits work? I've read a little about motorola devices never having an unlocked bootloader and motorola didn't seem to be a modder friendly company. I've built some android for my xperia play, up 4.2.2 and I want to make sure whichever phone I get, I can play around with the software on it if I don't like it.
phew, what a mouthful.
The RAZR M is very mod-able. The bootloader is easily unlocked now, and it is also easy to root. However, there aren't as many roms for the RAZR M compared to other phones.
I own a RAZR M and I like it a lot, but at this point with your upgrade discount, I might recommend the Galaxy S4 if you're concerned with modding. I'm sure the bootloader will be unlocked for it very soon if not already. And I'm sure it will be rooted soon as well. And the kicker is that there will be a lot more roms for the GS4 than the RAZR M.
At this point, I like the stock software a lot since it is very close to vanilla Android AOSP. I am currently using a custom yet stock rom that has all the verizon bloatware already removed.
I would recommend the RAZR M.
Bootloader unlocked able, and you can root and mod to your hearts content.
I really appreciated the work you did in the R800x forums.
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Hey cj! I also remember your work on the Play. I went with the Razr M and have had zero issues and zero regrets. It's sweet even running stock, especially after you kill the bloat
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Cool, I like the roms in the development forum I might be getting one. And hi guys funny seeing you here
cj360 said:
Cool, I like the roms in the development forum I might be getting one. And hi guys funny seeing you here
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It seems ATTACK joined the XT907 bandwagen as well.
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Only issue is internal memory its 8gb but moto has it partitioned down to 4gb unless I'm told you buy the dev edition otherwise its a great phone
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Usmcamc32 said:
Only issue is internal memory its 8gb but moto has it partitioned down to 4gb unless I'm told you buy the dev edition otherwise its a great phone
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No reason it would be different on the Dev edition. They're the same phone except that on one of them, fastboot oem unlock doesn't fail out...
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I updated my RAZR m to the latest release from Verizon, and since I had not unlocked my bootloader yet, I know I cannot unlock it at the moment. Even if I rsd to the original 4.1.2 I still will be unable to unlock, correct?
Is there any work being done on a new unlock? I'm relatively happy with stock for now, but once cm10.x is more stable, and motors stops updating the RAZR m, I'd like to be able to flash something cool.
Thanks,
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tronjojo said:
I updated my RAZR m to the latest release from Verizon, and since I had not unlocked my bootloader yet, I know I cannot unlock it at the moment. Even if I rsd to the original 4.1.2 I still will be unable to unlock, correct?
Is there any work being done on a new unlock? I'm relatively happy with stock for now, but once cm10.x is more stable, and motors stops updating the RAZR m, I'd like to be able to flash something cool.
Thanks,
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Yeah, here's your news; the new update blocked the ability to unlock. You can't unlock, even if you downgrade, but you can still root. The unlock exploit came out in April and people were told to do it, before it was locked up. Dan also said he probably won't ever run another exploit. You can root and use SafeStrap to run older SS compatible ROMs. You're SOL for the AOSP stuff, though. Don't say you weren't warned.
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Yeah, here's your news; the new update blocked the ability to unlock. You can't unlock, even if you downgrade, but you can still root. The unlock exploit came out in April and people were told to do it, before it was locked up. Dan also said he probably won't ever run another exploit. You can root and use SafeStrap to run older SS compatible ROMs. You're SOL for the AOSP stuff, though. Don't say you weren't warned.
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Yeah I Am SOL .... I tried to do the Unlock up then screen froze and accidental update button was pressed. Cries... Bows to Dan... Hope he decides other wise to give us one more chance at Bootloader.
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Yeah I Am SOL .... I tried to do the Unlock up then screen froze and accidental update button was pressed. Cries... Bows to Dan... Hope he decides other wise to give us one more chance at Bootloader.
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If your on Verizon and got the phone through Verizon do what I did before the time runs out... call them request a replacement device go through all the trouble shooting for your "issue"( I said the ear piece speaker intermittently goes out, yet works on speakerphone thus indicating its hardware related) after trouble shooting and problems still occur you get the green light for a replacement. request that they make a note to the warehouse to send you one without the update (I said because the new update caused data drops that didn't happen prior to update)... I hated having to give up my brand new device for a "like new" one but its better then having a locked device... the CSR in the chat said all devices in the warehouse will be updated 2-3 weeks after the update push so... act fast you may still have time left... if you get one with the update call them tell them your phone is working fine now and send the replacement back... or say something like the replacement is defective and again request a note to the warehouse... where there's a will there's a way....good luck
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This ^ I can attest to this actually working.
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This ^ I can attest to this actually working.
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Doesn't Honesty and Integrity mean anything to you guys?
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my method for GSM unlocking for US carriers using CDMA WS. no rooting, romming, bootloader-ing, xml-ing. quick and dirty
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Doesn't Honesty and Integrity mean anything to you guys?
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It did... till you get all those miscellaneous fees... and not to mention the insurance I have paid for close to 6 years and never used...
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i did the OTA today and it totally BRICKED my phone it wont do anything, it had a full charge.
i WAS rooted but rsd back to stock, it was not rooted at all, but still bricked it, since i have no warranty what can i do? nothing??
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Doesn't Honesty and Integrity mean anything to you guys?
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Not feeling like doing that. And i am not a Verizon user, I am with T-Mobile on the RDS/RadioComm Mod.
So I am just gonna suck it up and use it on stock, nothing wrong with it it works i like it. (Bugs me a little bit that i f up =( )
Next phone will be a stock Unlocked Phone so i don't have to worry about this, Been eyeing the HTC one Mini.
Or the Razr I. We will see... too many projects at the moment not enough money to buy a new phone.
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Doesn't Honesty and Integrity mean anything to you guys?
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We're the scum of the Earth
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Germanese said:
Not feeling like doing that. And i am not a Verizon user, I am with T-Mobile on the RDS/RadioComm Mod.
So I am just gonna suck it up and use it on stock, nothing wrong with it it works i like it. (Bugs me a little bit that i f up =( )
Next phone will be a stock Unlocked Phone so i don't have to worry about this, Been eyeing the HTC one Mini.
Or the Razr I. We will see... too many projects at the moment not enough money to buy a new phone.
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Well if your looking to be pure stock but still carrier unlocked I have made a tutorial here in the Q&A. Just flash back to stock and check my thread using CDMA WS method. I even have a nifty video tut posted
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We're the scum of the Earth
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Don't beat yourself up over it or anything lol
Hey guys, let's get a thread going for this. I have an idea of how we might be able to unlock the bootloader of this phone, but I'm not giving promises. First off, we need as much documentation for the chipset as possible (MSM8960), Snapdragon S4 Pro. Also, documentation relating to the boot process is welcomed. I am currently figuring out how the boot process on this phone works. What do you say guys? It should be a team effort to unlock this phone.
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What kind of information are you looking for?
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Anything that is related to the processor or boot sequence. I'm currently downloading the firmware to take a look at it.
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What would be relevant for the processor? If you give me some direction, I can help searching for info.
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Things such as this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1856327
Personally, I think you're on a wild goose chase or out for a snipe hunt, but best of luck anyway.
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Personally, I think you're on a wild goose chase or out for a snipe hunt, but best of luck anyway.
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Maybe you're just nuts (see what I did there) But anyways, I'm still looking at the boot sequence and how it works. I think we might be able to modify the bootloader exploit for the GS4 since the X and GS4 use aboot and with that we might be able to overwrite the function that checks the value of whether the bootloader is unlocked or not. The aboot partition is loaded into memory first during boot, then the kernel and ramdisk is loaded into memory after on another memory address, whether the kernel/ramdisk is custom or not. There is a custom header in the ramdisk/kernel header that tells it to write to a certain memory address. You can edit the custom header to write to the same address as aboot, overwriting aboot therefore returning the value needed to complete the boot with the custom kernel/ramdisk. I will still have to work out the smaller details but I hope this works
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Very large bounties out there if you succeed.
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kj2112 said:
Very large bounties out there if you succeed.
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I doubt I will haha, but thank you. Not in it for the money
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Good luck. I'm subscribing to this thread just in case.
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Subscribed. That would be awesome to see this even though I just bought a DE on swappa to replace my locked X.
Any luck ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1856327
This might help you
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Sorry I hadn't read through the entire forum anyways how's about this: http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/04/unlocking-motorola-bootloader.html?m=1
If you want to know more about moto bootloaders contact Dan Rosenberg.
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Any news on this?
Another idea would be if someone with a Dev edition moto x could check to see if any of the preloaded Verizon apps/services had root privileges. Then it would only be a matter of finding an exploit in the application itself instead of trying to look for one in the bootloader.
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Another idea would be if someone with a Dev edition moto x could check to see if any of the preloaded Verizon apps/services had root privileges. Then it would only be a matter of finding an exploit in the application itself instead of trying to look for one in the bootloader.
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Obtaining root privileges has nothing to do with the bootloader.
I know but wouldn't gaining root make it easier to find an actual exploit?
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Personally, I'd be all over the $43 dollar unlock codes......while its still an option. Someone at Motorola is gonna get fired hard eventually. Lol
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Is it possible that this is Lenevo doing this?
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Is it possible that this is Lenevo doing this?
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I doubt that. Its Verizon and at&t that never wanted the phones unlocked. Lenovo wouldn't go against their wishes. Plus, Motorola is still Motorola.
The bright side for those who don't unlock now, is maybe they'll be allowed to unlock when the phone is no longer officially supported. At least then they can update through custom roms.
Then again, maybe not.....it is another incentive to get a new phone leaving them locked.
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Like the title states, I was wondering if there is any progress on unlocking the bootloader. I am okay with the way things are, but I would love to run CM11. I appreciate all the work devs do around here. I am just curious to know if anyone is still working on the bootloader, and if there is any progress.
nope. no update that is.. not sure if anyone is working on it behind the scenes with newer devices out there
Sole reason I will never buy a Samsung device on Verizon ever again.
Same here next upgrade I'll go with HTC or Motorola
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Same here next upgrade I'll go with HTC or Motorola
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Motorola isn't a good option if you want an unlocked bootloader either.
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Motorola isn't a good option if you want an unlocked bootloader either.
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I thought it was unlocked. I guess HTC or any phone with unlocked BL
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I thought it was unlocked. I guess HTC or any phone with unlocked BL
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Sunshine worked on the Ultra/Maxx up to 4.4.3 but 4.4.4 is locked down tight, that includes the Turbo and Moto X 2014 as well. The options moving forward are HTC, LG (still able to "unlock" by downgrading firmware) or dropping the $$$ on a dev edition Samsung or the N6.