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Web browsing performance? smooth scroll?

So, any browsing lag like described here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=873364

gogol said:
So, any browsing lag like described here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=873364
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I havent had anything even relating to lag since i started using this phone at 8 , i love it ,, sorry Nexi, you will never been forgotten <3

Start at 2:05
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=scawEG9dryA
Flash enabled though.

It has something to do with the fact that the Hummingbird SoC is not optimized for flash acceleration.

Someone post a video scrolling around Android central zoomed out like that with Flash disabled so we can tell how much of that lag is actually caused by Flash.

I went to both anandtech.com and androidcentral.com to try to replicate the issues witnessed in those videos.
No problems whatsoever. Scrolling is fine, even when not zoomed in. Pinch-to-zoom is fast. Flash is enabled.

mmas0n said:
I went to both anandtech.com and androidcentral.com to try to replicate the issues witnessed in those videos.
No problems whatsoever. Scrolling is fine, even when not zoomed in. Pinch-to-zoom is fast.
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What's your definition of fine? It would still be great to get a video so we can judge for ourselves.
Fine like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkZZXeF5uV8

gtg465x said:
What's your definition of fine? It would still be great to get a video so we can judge for ourselves.
Fine like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkZZXeF5uV8
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Not fine like that, no.

SADLY: the LAG in the browser is indeed there - and it shows up only after you have installed a decent number of apps (i have 67).
This is EXACTLY how it was on the SGS until Samsung released a fix.
Out of the box, it hardly lags - but as soon as i install some apps the lag starts. not always, but it is there.
shame.

67 apps and you complain about the lag?

Highl1 said:
67 apps and you complain about the lag?
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Seriously?
YES i complain about lad with 67apps installed where my droid X has 100apps and there is zero lag.
My Nexus one has 110apps and there was no lag.

Solution:
Stick with Droid X or Nexus One. I use my phone heavily for work (2 Exchange accounts used all the time, 1 GMail) and I develop Android apps and have never had the need for more than 20-25 apps. Out of those 67, 30-40 can be useful tops, but 67, no way jose

Web browsing is smooth and fast. I think I like this phone better than the Vibrant. So far so good, no issue.

My mytouch 4g was definitely smoother when it comes to scrolling. It also automatically re-wrapped the text when I used pinch to zoom. With the nexus s it only re-wrapps text when I use the zoom control buttoms on the display.
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When I finish my exam tomorrow I will try to post a video. There is a lag sometimes but foe this site it's. Almost as smooth as what u posted.
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What's your definition of fine? It would still be great to get a video so we can judge for ourselves.
Fine like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkZZXeF5uV8
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c_licious said:
My mytouch 4g was definitely smoother when it comes to scrolling. It also automatically re-wrapped the text when I used pinch to zoom. With the nexus s it only re-wrapps text when I use the zoom control buttoms on the display.
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Pinch zoom and then double tap the text for reflow. The standard way.

I think lag is caused by using more app in the background. It will be very smooth but if u open like 10 apps or so you will get some lag. So try to test it with and without that many apps running ...
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raeef said:
I think lag is caused by using more app in the background. It will be very smooth but if u open like 10 apps or so you will get some lag. So try to test it with and without that many apps running ...
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I said installed apps. Not running apps. Of course I don't run 67apps in the background...not even one to be honest.
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Browser is not at all improved from my Nexus One. EXTREMELY disappointed and the main reason why I will probably return this phone within the 30 days.

what i noticed is that flash (mostly ads) is causing the lag on my phone. i dont need flash all of the time so it went into the browser settings>enable plugins> and set it to on demand. that way flash isnt loading all of the time, only when i click on a certain flash element that i want to watch. makes pages load faster and probably saves battery too.

Andromadus beta 5 ideas

I like andromadus a lot. its the best rom ive ever had but i think i have some ideas for the next versions of it:
-themes, i would love a sense 4 or touchwiz or even a iOS theme
-more processor speed options, i mostly onderclock my Android. but there should be more "low speeds" options, like 600mhz.
-USB options, like the internet USB options in android 2.3x
-Beats Audio, maybe?
-The old music player, this one is not as easy as the one in beta 3
-Gmail update? it says everytime at opening that it hasn't been synced
-games, temple run is always buggy. Fix maybe?
-when at lockscreen, and then holding the lock button, you can still make screenshots or shutdown or phone, happend to me 2 times. fix that please
i will have more but this is it for now. what do you think?

mazdarati2 said:
I like andromadus a lot. its the best rom ive ever had but i think i have some ideas for the next versions of it:
-themes, i would love a sense 4 or touchwiz or even a iOS theme
-more processor speed options, i mostly onderclock my Android. but there should be more "low speeds" options, like 600mhz.
-USB options, like the internet USB options in android 2.3x
-Beats Audio, maybe?
-The old music player, this one is not as easy as the one in beta 3
-Gmail update? it says everytime at opening that it hasn't been synced
-games, temple run is always buggy. Fix maybe?
-when at lockscreen, and then holding the lock button, you can still make screenshots or shutdown or phone, happend to me 2 times. fix that please
i will have more but this is it for now. what do you think?
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last thing you said: it has always been like that.
themes pretty much difficult and there are cyano theme you can use
they're trying, I think, to keep the rom as much similar as possible to stock/cyano ics and and to add new features when they may be useful, but not to completely change it. Beats audio: it's mostly for sense roms, you can flash a zip if you want it. they can't update gmail themselves, google should.

mazdarati2 said:
-themes, i would love a sense 4 or touchwiz or even a iOS theme
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AAB4 supports theme. I think the place you should look at is the market. In case you really want sense 4, there're Sense 4 ROMs.
mazdarati2 said:
-more processor speed options, i mostly onderclock my Android. but there should be more "low speeds" options, like 600mhz.
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Set CPU, the dev release it for free somewhere in this forum.
ROM Tool Box Lite, in the Market, free, doesn't let you create profile if you don't pay though
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-USB options, like the internet USB options in android 2.3x
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Never saw that in Stock GB.... but you can always do it in the settings
mazdarati2 said:
Beats Audio, maybe?
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You can flash it yourself, just as the Wifi-calling. It's somewhere in this forum
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-The old music player, this one is not as easy as the one in beta 3
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I think Apollo is way better, it runs smoother, faster and plays more file types. The old one was really crappy. I have no idea why you would prefer that one over Apollo.
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-Gmail update? it says everytime at opening that it hasn't been synced
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This is a known issue, I can't recall what causes this but it is solved by wiping the cache/gmail cache. Go to account & sync to check if the email sync is actually checked. Not AAB4's fault though.
Overall, I think a lot of things you ask for you can get it if you do some extra work instead of asking the dev to do some more work.

KyraOfFire said:
AAB4 supports theme. I think the place you should look at is the market. In case you really want sense 4, there're Sense 4 ROMs.
I think Apollo is way better, it runs smoother, faster and plays more file types. The old one was really crappy. I have no idea why you would prefer that one over Apollo.
Overall, I think a lot of things you ask for you can get it if you do some extra work instead of asking the dev to do some more work.
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sense 4 rom does not have working camera's and camcorders.
Apollo is more laggy than the old one for me
Im a noob at denvelop. and im not gonna customize this rom because i can let my HTC crash very easy. and i like this thing

This is pointless, honestly. Some people would like these changes, some wouldn't. They can't take a stock experience and change it drastically just for you, and if you must, please PM them your "Sense based" ideas.

Not sure on your other points but have to agree about Apollo. Not sure how anyone with a Desire Z would prefer that over the old music player when it does so much in Portrait rather than landscape....

Lol I made a sense 4 themed andromadus rom in the dev section. Just made it today haha
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mazdarati2 said:
-more processor speed options, i mostly underclock my Android. but there should be more "low speeds" options, like 600mhz.
-The old music player, this one is not as easy as the one in beta 3
-Gmail update? it says everytime at opening that it hasn't been synced
-games, temple run is always buggy. Fix maybe?
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I dislike how most CPU governors start slow and build up after wake. If the wake speed isn't high enough moving the lock circle on the lock screen seems very laggy and not fluid.
Music player is so very easy to change. If we are talking about custom roms, you can easily delete .apk files in /system/app because you have root access. I do this to ensure only my favorite browser is always used for instance.
I wish known issues like Temple Run crashes, camera focus is off, 3g doesn't always recover after wifi signal dropped were mentioned on the 1st post as "not working". I believe that post is misleading otherwise. Perhaps his 2nd reserve post could be used for a list of "issues" to be resolved.

skewty said:
I dislike how most CPU governors start slow and build up after wake. If the wake speed isn't high enough moving the lock circle on the lock screen seems very laggy and not fluid.
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Which ones are you thinking of? To my knowledge, all the ICS roms released use kernels that default to the smartassV2 governor. SmartassV2 automatically hits an ideal wake frequency immediately after turning the screen on (768mhz in Andromadus). From there it will ramp up or down appropriately.
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83nn0 said:
Not sure on your other points but have to agree about Apollo. Not sure how anyone with a Desire Z would prefer that over the old music player when it does so much in Portrait rather than landscape....
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I suggest Google Play Music. It's much faster than the old player while maintaining the same look and feel. It also tries into Google Music, but I haven't tried that since I'm not in the USA.
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blk_jack said:
Which ones are you thinking of? To my knowledge, all the ICS roms released use kernels that default to the smartassV2 governor. SmartassV2 automatically hits an ideal wake frequency immediately after turning the screen on (768mhz in Andromadus). From there it will ramp up or down appropriately.
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I'm using Interactive governor since it move slowly up & down. For better less lag on my g2 andromadus b4. Thanks devs. I'm lovin this rom.
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blk_jack said:
I suggest Google Play Music. It's much faster than the old player while maintaining the same look and feel. It also tries into Google Music, but I haven't tried that since I'm not in the USA.
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Not the first time Ive heard that and i thought i was going crazy not being able to find it in market, however just looking on the web version of Google Play and i get ''This app is incompatible with your 3 HTC HTC Vision.''
Something to do with me being on the network 3 uk?

83nn0 said:
Not the first time Ive heard that and i thought i was going crazy not being able to find it in market, however just looking on the web version of Google Play and i get ''This app is incompatible with your 3 HTC HTC Vision.''
Something to do with me being on the network 3 uk?
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Yea it's only available to networks in the US. There are tons of mirrors out there though so just sideload it onto your phone (like I do)

It will be great if you add the possibility to switch hardware keyboard language.

nikanorov said:
It will be great if you add the possibility to switch hardware keyboard language.
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I actually think you already can. I believe CM added the ability, somewhat recently, in some capacity. Worth looking into..

blk_jack said:
I actually think you already can. I believe CM added the ability, somewhat recently, in some capacity. Worth looking into..
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Are you shure? I don't see any option in b4.

nikanorov said:
Are you shure? I don't see any option in b4.
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It's not accessible via the menu which is why I couldn't refer you to something right away, I saw it committed in a patch but didn't look into it too carefully..
https://github.com/Andromadus/andro...mmit/85510e7ddf23abd99250f6b14cf38749d0027d26
Sorry now in retrospect I realize it's not what you were asking for, my bad

usb host mode?

blk_jack said:
I suggest Google Play Music. It's much faster than the old player while maintaining the same look and feel. It also tries into Google Music, but I haven't tried that since I'm not in the USA.
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i cant find Google Play Music. when im searching for that, i can find winamp and ringpod etc. but no specific app that is called: google play music. help me please

mazdarati2 said:
i cant find Google Play Music. when im searching for that, i can find winamp and ringpod etc. but no specific app that is called: google play music. help me please
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533816

Facebook replacements?

Hi,
heard that the official app doesn't work that well, so curious to hear if there are any alternatives out there that work properly.

Facobook Touch is working really good in WP7.8. 0.99€ on marketplace.

Generally speaking alternative Facebook-Apps regularly have problems because people's privacy settings affect what data is available to them unlike the official App which is treated the same as the Homepage.

Facebook touch is just a wrapper for http://touch.facebook.com , as far as I know
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If your looking for speed I recommend stream for Android. Otherwise friend Caster
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The official app on WP7 doesn't work well.
The official app on WP8 looks similar, but works much better. Its much faster, more stable, and definitely provides a wide variety of features (not all features), and reliable push notifications.

Why the hell Microsoft develop the Facebook app? Facebook develop Android's and iOS. Why not WP? Microsoft is doing an awful job with this app.

prjkthack said:
The official app on WP7 doesn't work well.
The official app on WP8 looks similar, but works much better. Its much faster, more stable, and definitely provides a wide variety of features (not all features), and reliable push notifications.
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I have actually experienced a lot of crashes with the 4.0 WP8 version ... doesn't refresh properly, crashes on opening or refreshing messages .. random crashes ... they really need to fix this.

pencilcase said:
I have actually experienced a lot of crashes with the 4.0 WP8 version ... doesn't refresh properly, crashes on opening or refreshing messages .. random crashes ... they really need to fix this.
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Hmm... the ME Title doesn't work for ya or not enough?
I have the Facebook app installed on my WP7 and soon will be on WP8 but it has only one function for me: Push Notification.

Facobook Touch is working good in wp 7

NlBO said:
If your looking for speed I recommend stream for Android. Otherwise friend Caster
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Erm please. This is the Windows Phone section...
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Dialer and Settings menu lag while entering

Howdie
Does anyone know why Dilaer and Settings menus appear so slow on Jelly Bean ROMs from time to time? I am running 4.1.2 AOSP ROM, MDO by knzo (based on Rasbean Jelly) to be exact but I find this behaviour on every single JB ROM I tried. It is very annoying when you need to make quick call, dialer enters, but not single contact appears for about 2-3 seconds. Same for the settings menu, you get black frame and then you need to wait for few seconds that actual menu items appears. Where is the problem?
Thanks

I might add. Every time I click on a box to type, the keyboard allways takes it sweet time to pop up.
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I agree with you. And this problem is worst in 4.2.1.
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I started a thread on this quite a while ago and no one found any solution to this... But it seems like the lag is not that bad in jellshot... The menu and dialer are appearing without any lag with Beladus 7.3 kernel
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From my experience, after you flash a ROM everything is super fast and smooth! Start restoring back and/or adding apps, then
that's the point of no return! The occasional reboot helps things a little bit. Also if the dialler and settings haven't been accessed
for a while, I find this lag but if they've already been used and you can see them in the list of Recent apps, then they open up
a little faster.

Flash a GB ROM like oxygen (links are in this general section) or cm7 and use holo launcher/a browser with hardware acceleration. Runs super fast. Dialer and keyboard and other lags are nonexhistant on newer phones ( my girl has a Verizon gs3 with the jb update). Its just a 2 year old phone with a very small amount of ram for today's standards. Not much you can do about it.
Its like running windows 8 on a computer from 2004 that was built for windows xp. Difference is cell phones evolve at an alarming rate compared to computers... And the prices suck.
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I was considering Oxygen for a while but I really hate GB browser and complicated UI. What kernel is suitable for Oxygen? I am surely gonna try it when I get some time.
At the moment I am running completely stock odexed 4.1.2, and lag still exists. Its like app enters but it needs few moments for data loads into it. I dont run heavy apps in memory, only ****ty Facebook client and Whatsapp...
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Ted Mosby said:
I was considering Oxygen for a while but I really hate GB browser and complicated UI. What kernel is suitable for Oxygen? I am surely gonna try it when I get some time.
At the moment I am running completely stock odexed 4.1.2, and lag still exists. Its like app enters but it needs few moments for data loads into it. I dont run heavy apps in memory, only ****ty Facebook client and Whatsapp...
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Trinity kernel I was using for a few weeks. Was awesome.
http://derkernel.com/odk/index.html scroll down to last nexus s builds for gb
As for browsing on gingerbread do yourself a favor and get opera browser. Its got proper hardware acceleration and is smooth
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This shows an example of how good opera is. I just nanded back to my oxygen backup to confirm it as well. Smooth as stock browser in ics/jb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cETPUJ0-7sM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Tried Oxygen 2.3.2 with polobunny's launcher fix - partially fixed. Dialer is a lot, and I mean a lot faster, feels lighter to. But settings menu isn't, I think that the speed of opening is pretty much the same as JB, RAM management is killing it from time to time.
Second thing I don't like about GB is lack of butter. It really feels, for instance Facebook app is choppy from time to time, YouTube app is always lagging. Stock Browser, OTOH, isn't that bad as i remember on my other device (Huawei U8650) that i owned previously. Third thing, multitasking, I am not sure is it because of lack of this "bigmem" 60 MB more RAM or something, but multitasking for me is not as good as JB.
Opening some other apps aren't much faster than Jelly Bean. Camera is starting faster, Dialer as i previously mentioned is way more faster, Messaging and Play Store about the same speed, Google Maps and Gallery feels *slower* than JB. I am going to stick with it for couple of days more, but even now I think that there is no point in running GB ROM, custom JB ROM's are pretty darn good on NS.

[Q] Nexus 4 (or Android?) stuttering

Hi all,
I premise that I'm an Android fan but.... how it is possible that even on high-end devices, such as my new Nexus 4, stuttering is often there?
I had a Nexus S before, and I knew that with such hardware I could not pretend anymore...
But now, with a QuadCore 1.5Ghz and 2GB Ram... I can say that:
1) Launcher operations, opening/closing apps, multi-tasking operations are really smooth;
2) Web browsing is really smooth...
BUT
3) Gallery often stutters in the grid view
4) Facebook stutters a lot when scrolling
5) Whatsapp stutters when images are in the conversation..
6) Camera sometimes stutters when taking a 1080p video
7) As I already said in another thread, some games (for example, Scopa of Whatwapp ent. which should be a really LIGHT game) stutters a lot (the strange thing is that on some low-end devices it is smooth)
I ran Antutu to verify if there was something wrong.. and I obtained 17,300 points with everything stock and about 20,000 with CM 10.1, which seems great results. I also tried with Franco Kernel..but I cannot notice any improvement.
Do other Nexus 4 owners (or of other high-end devices) have these issues?
Any solution that it is not to wait for Google to rewrite from stratch the way UI is managed?
Thank you

Facebook is a horribly written app and stutters on all Android phones.
Other than FB and the tapatalk app (and perhaps the gallery, as you've said, but that has to be really minor) my phone nerver stutters.

It's in the software. We all have to get used to it. It will never be like iOS and to which is why you chose to buy a Nexus 4.

Mine N4 has recently started stuttering too, :/ I don't really know why and was also quite confused because I know my phone is a higher end device.
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I have to say that the Stock ROM appeared to me much more smooth than CM10.1..
However, I flashed it to have some features I use (different vibration pattern for SMS, customizable tiles, customizable auto brightness, etc.)

Imo 90 % of all glitches/stutters/lags etc are caused by user apps running in the background eating memory and cpu power and not by the OS. Just my 2 cents I have over 200 apps installed and do not xperience any stutters in gallery or in any other app,

gee2012 said:
Imo 90 % of all glitches/stutters/lags etc are caused by user apps running in the background eating memory and cpu power and not by the OS. Just my 2 cents I have over 200 apps installed and do not xperience any stutters in gallery or in any other app,
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I have just a few apps... I list them here... if you see something strange please let me know:
- Whatsapp
- Facebook
- Facebook messenger
- Temple Run, Scopa, Riptide GP
- COL Reminder
- Trovaprezzi
- My190
- Shazam
- Antutu
- Dropbox
- Franco Kernel Updater
- Nova Launcher
- GTasks
Nothing else... I think they are common apps and should not have particular problems..

Maybe it is because of the Nova launcher?
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atabey said:
Maybe it is because of the Nova launcher?
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And which launcher do you suggest?

gee2012 said:
Imo 90 % of all glitches/stutters/lags etc are caused by user apps running in the background eating memory and cpu power and not by the OS. Just my 2 cents I have over 200 apps installed and do not xperience any stutters in gallery or in any other app,
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I see you have the same ROM and Kernel I have...
Have you changed something particular in the kernel settings?
I can see that there are tons of settings about the governor...

giaomnitel1 said:
And which launcher do you suggest?
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The one that came with your ROM.