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Can someone convince me to keep my tab..

I bought this a few months back don't get me wrong its a excelebt device. But im finding it slow and anoying to the poiny i want to get rid of it, im fed up with how apps can run on there own without permission and slow the hell out of the tab and kill battery i fibd it silly how the default launcher widgets dobt fit the screen. Apps dont look good at times due to the screen resolution etc. Can someone convince me otherwise ps i do use other laubchers they just lag. Only way you get a lag free tab.is if you have no apps
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Not sure why your lagging so badly my tab never lags maybe u got to much stuff installed u dont need id look at getting a task manager app and reducing the apps you have open at once.

I dont have loads of apps open i was trying to use.the one built in.go launcher i dont evan.have loads of apps installed my nexus has far more apps installed and its insane
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What are you running? If stock then carrier had probably crippled it even with their junk ware. Suggest running overcome kratos, or stock non-carrier gingerbread-can find both in the dev section. They work very fast with no bad lag.
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Convince us first why there is a need for us to convince you.

I'm running gingerbread stock, no kernals just plain stock.
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Run the ROM/Kernel from Overcome and you will have your speed back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1205990

Or we could send around 4 big blokes with various tablet devices to show you the error of your ways....

Overcome is good, but I prefer CyanogenMod, completely sans TouchWiz. Both are great, and you should definitely switch to one of them. You will gain a lot of performance and battery life back, for sure.

Might be a rogue app. I run the 'Fast Reboot' to dump stuff before and after a game, seems to help. The 2.3.3 update made things far smoother too.

Thanks for the replys cm put me right off i used it with my nexus i had constant reboots and a greenish screen animation bug
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formerglory said:
completely sans TouchWiz.
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........?
Whats "sans TouchWiz"

SANS means "Without (French)"
http://www.internetslang.com/SANS.asp

I'm running the old gingerbread prep rom that came packaged with the overcome rom. I had such great speed from this that I didn't even bother to move onto overcome.
Apart from the occasional stutter, everything is very smooth, particularly web browsing. This prep rom is just stock ginger with root, and it's almost perfect. All of the ginger builds are largely identical so I can't see how you could have ginger and bad lag unless you have an app bogging it down.
Have you tried a factory reset and started fresh?

Use Fast Reboot
its free on the market, it made my tab run whole lot faster than it was.
ofcourse after installing Kratos and overclocking to 1.3Ghz it runs a lot better, but i still use Fast Reboot. it simulates a restart without doing one, causing all processes to close and come back up.
very nice app.
you can buy the paid one for scheduling it to run at times when memory usage is too high

I dont like doing factory resets my uses the tab for them farm like money games and its anoying starting from scratch
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keep your tab bro. still so many areas to explore your tab.

i see what you mean op....my tab is a beautiful device.... hardware wise.. but going from mango to sluggish android is horrible... how i wish i could install wp7 or windows 8 on my tab....

or u can try task650 rom too

ATN24 said:
or u can try task650 rom too
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It looks nice, but I expect it won't work on the P1000 (7") Tab.

Poor Multitasking

Anybody experience apps being killed by OS when multitasking?
For example, I have 2 tabs open in Opera. I received a mail and opened Gmail. After reading the mail and return to Opera, Opera is killed and all the tabs have to reload. This happens all the time even when there are plenty of RAM available! (<550MB/766MB)
*Note: This doesn't occur on my SGS2 that is running Gingerbread. My SGS2 multitasks flawlessly.

Yeah, I too have this problem just by switching from one app to another and back. I will pay more attention to see what else I can notice about it.
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Mine was with Dolphin HD and some other app.

I have not had this problem. But I only use the stock browser.

likewise, when using Dolphin HD with at least 3 tabs opened, then an SMS will come via GO SMS, when I return back to Dolphin, all tabs were loading

i used to have windows mobile phone (Not windows phone)
i used a application called Alt+tab and set a hard key to it.
and works like a charm.
that's almost 10 years ago.. but this top of the line tablet still cant do proper switch running app action.

That is why we need ICS. I have no big problem with HC but that reloading of tabs are really annoying. On my Note with ICS i can do so much more without the frustration. They have virtually the same specs so only thing i can do is wait for ICS.
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c4Lvin said:
That is why we need ICS. I have no big problem with HC but that reloading of tabs are really annoying. On my Note with ICS i can do so much more without the frustration. They have virtually the same specs so only thing i can do is wait for ICS.
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Perhaps. I do suspect HC is the issue too. My SGS2 running Gingerbread multitasks without issues unless it is running out of RAM while the issue occurs all the time even if there are plenty of RAM available on my SGT 7.7!

I'm having the same problem. What makes it worse, is I got this thing as a sketchpad, and wanted to screencast my drawings....I've successfully completed a few, but I've had a few crash on me. Not just annoying....FRUSTRATING. I was really hoping this was going to be the answer to apples thrust toward "production-level" devices.
I'm needing too many work-arounds to make it so...
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exactly, multitasking in HC really annoys me especially when i'm browsing!
i guess, we will only need to wait for ICS. =(

Same here, Even small apps close if they are in the background,
SAMSUNG WE NEED ICS!!

JFSG,
Try this: under developers option in settings - at the bottom under category "apps", see if the box next to "don't keep activities" is checked.
If it is checked then un-check it.
This is just an idea, since I don't have a 7.7 and haven't messed with honeycomb in a while, but I thought I would throw it out there. I had a similar problem and found that I had checked this option.
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They're no développer options in HC ;-)

I'm wondering if this is related to how the stock tablet has always had such low free memory even when all the background tasks are closed. Someone brought it up in another thread and got the excuse of how android is soo efficient and it frees up memory as you need it, blah blah. That may be right, but I don't feel a top tier device should be such that switching tasks like this causes the background tasks to be wiped just because the free memory is already so low. I may be wrong, but I'm just wondering.
My Razr Maxx w/ Eclipse and CM9 Touchpad both start w/ over 500MB free memory and i don't see this issue on those devices.

ICS Impressions, please share

Ok so for those that have been able to upgrade to ICS (P6800 owners) what are your toughts?
Now this is what i am looking for:
A) What you like
B) Don't like
C) What would you like to have seen included but wasn't (if anything)
And since having the update what are you looking forward to doing that you couldn't or wouldn't with HC.
Please don't post any issues you have after updating, that is not what this post is intended for.
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Well i don't think that i don't like anything but i haven't really found something that is faulty. It is definitely faster as i immediately noticed that it took less ram, than honey comb, to run. Feels pretty fast with go launcher HD to me and i love it completely. Although i thought that there would be camera improvements as tab 2 7.0 has the same 3 mega pixel camera but does 1080p recording. So i thought that it might be done with tab 7.7 as well with an ics upgrade.

hammer of thor said:
Well i don't think that i don't like anything but i haven't really found something that is faulty. It is definitely faster as i immediately noticed that it took less ram, than honey comb, to run. Feels pretty fast with go launcher HD to me and i love it completely. Although i thought that there would be camera improvements as tab 2 7.0 has the same 3 mega pixel camera but does 1080p recording. So i thought that it might be done with tab 7.7 as well with an ics upgrade.
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Yea 1080p would have been a nice addition, but 720p is still good.
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Well I love it to and made it up with Samsung:
- first with ICS that tablet really rocks it already did but now it's almost perfect
- smoother faster it seems especially the OOM killer seems more smart, and less memory used it seems
- no more problem with Itap rdp right click with bt mouse
- something I never mentioned. : I developed or try to develop a clone of pronto remote and debug using adb wireless
With HC I could not connect via adb on the computer using ethernet to adb wireless wifi due to packet loss... So had to disable ethernet and enable wifi. With ics no longer this issue...
- I used to have frequent sleep of death for the moment none
- I listen radio everyday through tunein somehow at around 1pm HC always rebooted by itself. Never bothered to figure out why... Now this no longer happen...
- no wifi issue ( some ICS user reported problems). I never had neither with HC except sleep of death or reboot that might be related to wifi?. I use Friztbox 7340 AP.
- my 100+ aps. Seems to all works (of course did not test deeply since yesterday) except gmd gesture control to hide the control bar
-once in a while but quite frequently using HC my EXCHANGE account would vanish...had to re-create every time... waiting to see on this one...Could be my remote application leaking....
So all in all very very happy with this tab and Samsung... Patience was what I missed
- I did wipe and did not have any problem if we refer to brick bug... But you never know...
What I like less
- dialog box theme gray without frame around
- it seems Samy addressed bur-in doing the bar black now....
I preferred it before and I don't have noticeable burn-in ( since march and extensive uses) except using color filter and brightness turned all down then I see slight yellow discoloration... Nothing to complain for me as the TAB HW screen etc are just so great IMO and outweight for me this small detail.
Seriously the TAB rocks for me...
Can you imagine 7.7 with quad core and dream about a 1080p SAMOLED display in a 7'7 TAB for me the perfect size!
I guess I continue buying Samsung.... Despite some of my previous comments... Waiting for the ICS on 8.9 now for my girl friend
Thanks and cheers
A now happy again Samsun tab 7.7 user
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My first impression
i installed the firmware through odin. it was not available on kies. so if i have to claim warranty ( god forbid ) then i guess i have to flash my country's HC firmware back
what i liked is that it is noticibly faster than HC. Apps load faster. lag is less. starting button lag is less. there have been no FC's and almost all of my games are compatible.
what i dislike or rather disappointed is that it does not look or feel much different than HC. no added functionality except Face unlock. what i would have liked is some features of S3.
i am running this for almost 24 hrs now. battery usage is same as HC.

I like that this device is actually usable now. I think I'm going to use it as my main tablet now. I didn't use it with HC because it was just so slow compared to my gt8.9 (running ICS rom).

My first impression: TouchWiz seems much smoother, Go Launcher HD feels the same. Under heavy usage of widgets TouchWiz is still great but Go Launcher HD not. I do love some Go Launcher features so I played around a lot and also tested the new 1.11 beta. But is still less responsive.

It's like a faulty motherboard replaced by a newer and faster one.
Seriously, like a new device, snappy, responsive, seems less battery hungry.
There is one 'custom rom" available, where EDaN has deodexed and removed some bloatware. I took that rom and took out everything social,photo and video editor, and some other minor crap.
Having 60 apps installed and tested it's like Christmas.
- dislike
had to discover I must install busybox to get Titanium working
had to install supersu myself, no biggy
no software based CWM, havent found compatible one, but one thats reboots to recovery anyway.
No powermenu at powerbutton
ugly blueish tint around quickmenu (with shortcuts for bt.wifi etc)
This all will be fixed when chefs get source or get impatient and offer CWM zips

Chainfire3d night mode seems to be not working...
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my only gripe so far is that if you increase the font size to Large, some apps (mostly system apps) seem to have the font go to 'super large' e.g. google play, settings menu, whilst some apps its perfect.
Conversely, going down to medium, most apps are back to Honeycomb tiny font problem, whilst the system apps are fine
Seems like Sammy tweaked the touchwiz stock UI to display fine on medium size, without thinking that 'hey most apps the user will be using needs it set to large hmmmm'. Hoping AOSP ROMs will get around this issue

The tab is more responsive overall. Feels like a new device. But still not loving touchwiz--wish this is a pure Google device. Installing Nova Launcher partially fixes that. Only app not working out well so far is Battery Monitor Widget Pro--the mA usage keeps showing "0". Just about everything else survived the upgrade with no issues.
Add: mA information in Battery monitor widget works is set to "estimation" rather than automatic. So that problem is solved...

I never used tw always adw launcher ex on this device, everything is smoother with ics now we just need some custom roms and kernels so it can catch up to my galaxy note and asus prime

Anyone notice the clipboard function is gone?
In HC, when ublong tap to paste, there are 2 options to choose, PASTE & CLIPBIARD.
in ICS, there's only PASTE.
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I love this new upgrade. The lag is mostly gone, and it's actually more functional. And Chrome looks awesome on the screen.

matsuru said:
Anyone notice the clipboard function is gone?
In HC, when ublong tap to paste, there are 2 options to choose, PASTE & CLIPBIARD.
in ICS, there's only PASTE.
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It only seems to work with the Samsung keyboard. I thought that was also the case in 3.2?

I'm truly loving this tab with ICS. One huge problem is with my WiFi. I experienced once again as it just disconnected and never connected again until I shut it down completely and turned it back on. Logged onto another AP. I hate this problem as I thought I had fixed it. It seems like the WiFi module is overheated and shutdown or something....*SIGH*

when browsing, going back to the previous tabs is still being reloaded. That is my only gripe so far.
Other than that, everything is smoothhhhhh...

I agree. Smooth interface. :-D
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I am using multiling keyboard and the function is there.
Anyway, because of this, I found an app that does more -> Clipper+
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Impressions.
It's good stuff!
First: Hotmail seems to be staying put. Had big bothers with this as account would dissapear from tab. Seems to be fixed now, but need more time.
Second: SD Card behaving. Sweet.
Third: No waiting around for unlock screen to pop up when power button pressed. WTF was that anyway?
Fourth: Swype behaving itself. Kept on getting beeps before, and i would have to change to Samkey and back to swype. One crash so far in google translate.
Fifth: Browser no longer reloading all the time to homepage. seems more stable.
Sixth: Youtube actually responds when choosing a vid. If you hit back before and chose another, it was no longer responsive.
Seventh: AR much more responsive. 1sec response time. instead of 3-4. Overall response time much boosted. Has crossed the line from WTF? to hey... Sweet!
0'ed: Sammy did our super bloody expensive tab first. THANK YOU!
PS: flashed XL4 (United Arab Emirates) with Austrian version.(ODIN 1.85) Not a problem. Did Full Reset before flashing though. All went smooth. Im a very happy camper! Hope i could help.

Project Butter on SGS3

I thought it would make sense for us to have a dedicated topic for discussion of Project Butter on Jelly Bean SGS3 rather than drown it in the other JB threads with everything else.
This is a really critical feature that we are expecting from Samsung in JB and so far it doesn't seem to be quite there. What amazes me is how Samsung have not even optimized the basic apps such as Dialer and Contacts, it's painfully slow and is such a let down on this stellar hardware... And that's on ICS as well.
With all our Quad Core power is it really that hard to get flawless performance everywhere (including widgets drawer) when a Nexus device is able to do that with now ancient hardware.
What are your thoughts?
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You misunderstood the whole thing.
Project Butter deals with how the GUI is rendered.
It doesn't speed up apps and isn't supposed to do that.
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tanseerj said:
I thought it would make sense for us to have a dedicated topic for discussion of Project Butter on Jelly Bean SGS3 rather than drown it in the other JB threads with everything else.
This is a really critical feature that we are expecting from Samsung in JB and so far it doesn't seem to be quite there. What amazes me is how Samsung have not even optimized the basic apps such as Dialer and Contacts, it's painfully slow and is such a let down on this stellar hardware... And that's on ICS as well.
With all our Quad Core power is it really that hard to get flawless performance everywhere (including widgets drawer) when a Nexus device is able to do that with now ancient hardware.
What are your thoughts?
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Project butter is present. I suggest you use an ICS Rom for a few days, then flash the latest JB leak, you will definitely notice a difference. Now we still don't have something final so chances are good that Samsung is gonna do more and more optimization before the final build. Also we can't compare the S3 with a skin ( touchwiz) vs a galaxy nexus or a nexus 7 which are running "pure" android but even with that in consideration, the S3 is still fast as hell with jelly bean. I do agree there's still a little work left to be done like the widget drawer which by the way doesn't lag for me on ics, that tells you it's just optimization.
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Latest leak, contacts load pretty much instantaneous
Not fussed about the app drawer, only go there rarely and would rather not have all those pictures cached in memory taking up space when I use it so rarely, and everything else is fast....job done

I notice it. Flashed my first JB ROM last night and instantly felt the difference!
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I am not expecting it to get faster... But smoother and stutter free.. Yes.
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really can't see any lag or stutter here at all

What's happening here is that we have two project butters'.
One is the one Google announced at Google I/O which involves triple buffering, vsync. ....... blah blah blah.
The other is the one people have imagined, super zomg amazeballs android on crack project butter, where apps open when you think about opening them and finishes all your games with all achievements, automatically.
It also makes coffee.
One is real, one is nonsense.
Most people are expecting/looking for the nonsense one when they flash a JB leak.
All I need to say is, First release of ICS on S3 was stuttery, BLG8 was smooth, there werw a load of releases between to get it right.
Give Sammy time, its not even officially released yet. :banghead:
"It's all in the game yo, all in the game..." - Omar Little

Nods is back from the pub! :thumbup::thumbup::beer::beer::beer:

Actually the part that annoys me most is the Dialer, Contacts and Messaging lag.
None of you have noticed that??
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But what i want is super buttery ultra smooth mega no lag at all like iphone which is the best phone in the world.
Lololol
But seriously guys, these JB leaks has some rooms for improvement. So let's wait for Sammy to release the final one.

I agree with OP. The phone dial up, contact is very slow. As soon the final jb announced I will definitely move to AOSP build. This is something Samsung have ignored since gs2.
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Just tried sms/phone/dialer with animations at 0.5 and 1, both ways with all the mentioned cleared from cache, so basically the difference comes down to 0.5 seconds.....I think I can just about live with a half second or so lag, and as I already said,, having these cached unnecessarily is just stupid, it's just the way it is.....it's certainly a lot better than eclair was!

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Nods is back from the pub! :thumbup::thumbup::beer::beer::beer:
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Ha ha, quite the opposite really! Just finished putting insulated slabs in the porch and bleeding the heating system!
Time for the pub now!
"It's all in the game yo, all in the game..." - Omar Little

Well I have the latest leak LI7 with latest siyah kernel, I have tweaked it and OC to 1.6ghz. i am getting high 6500+ quadrant scores and yes its the smoothest i have seen my phone run. But even with all these tweaks and such there is hardly any difference at all in UI performance it performs just like the best of ICS, I mean i don't understand what this project butter is all about what am i supposed to feel. The OP is correct there is a few jitters here and there especially in widgets drawer. so samsung whats project butter i am yet to feel it, i over heard articles say we are going to notice a difference. Let me tell you if i had ics installed left my phone on a table and some one changed everything over to what it is now jb+siyah+tweaked and made everything look the same. I can guarantee that I would not know the difference. I mean are we meant to be searching for the difference or is the difference meant to be looking for us?
Edit: And the only reason I have brought this up is because of this so called Project Butter. If that was never mentioned then i would be just like " Everything seems fine works just like its meant to, It not slow . Thats it. But because Project butter was said I am now waiting for a difference in which I would notice

Look I have the nexus 7 and this phone both running either stock jb for the n7 and latest leak for gs3.
Now they both are smooth as butter and I mean soft country crock on toast smooth.
I love the latest leak in fact it made for some reason smart keyboard pro much more smoother too!
So I do thinks its in our latest leaks. And yes compared to any ics rom leak i6 and i7's are almost perfect for me!
Sent from either Galaxy S3 intl or Nexus 7
both on stock at the moment!!

Latest leak for me is brilliant, I've come from dli5 and using my phone today has been like using a new phone. No lag, no redraw, my contacts load quick and jumping from letter to letter is immediate unlike on ics when you had to wait a second or 3 for the letter you chose to load.
Everything silky smooth here, maybe some people are just a lot more in tune to every little stutter and pause?
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I'm using omega v25 DLI7 right now. Came from ICS to 23 then 25 and I must say there has been some substantial improvements. Maybe not so much like going from GB to ICS but it really feels smoother to a certain degree and pretty seamless.

tanseerj said:
Actually the part that annoys me most is the Dialer, Contacts and Messaging lag.
None of you have noticed that??
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Indeed... and it amazes me to what level of difference in perception and expectation of the same thing are people capable of being. Project Butter in its essence is a metafor for smoothness and fluidity of the UI. It is not some utopian idea about an instantly responding UI and to look away from these quite evident glitches lags and stutters as a default behavior is to be entirely missing the point of Project Butter and being satisfied with the current Project Stutter. As much as I would like my phone to react instantly I don't need it to. But I would like it to deal with its non-instantenouness gracefully. For example if I open a contact list don't show me a half-baked version of what the contact list should be - show me another piece of UI that says to me that the list is being loaded and once you're done loading the entire lost smoothly animate it into view. No one expects to have a contact list of five hundred people to load up instantly - but also no one should care much about the device advertising it by stitching the list up of cotacts from four corners of the world. You cannot do some loading and then some drawing and then some more of both... load everything and the work your way to fluidly present other to the user.
But here we come to the real culprit: we must assume that the framework for such a graceful UI is there in JB. It is up to the developers to properly utilize it to achieve the desired effect and this is when developers must undergo a paradigm shift. Pasting an old contact app onto the new framework will bring no buttery benefits if it is not relying on the new framework that enables the apps to behave smoothly. This is I think the point at which Samsung is failing thus far. No amount of optimization will supersede the basic qualitative change - in the same way that drag racer will never have the sophistication of a luxury limousine though it will be faster and explode or fall apart every now and then - when it comes to the experience of that elusive thing that leaves the end user with feeling a level of satisfaction just by scrolling up and down the system preference list...
All this is not to say that JB is exempt from criticism as this is only a beta of the first iteration of Project Butter. I know that all would love to have it perfect from the get go and it never is so. Still, some basic stuff should work out of the box...
Sorry for the lengthy post...
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I never experienced any UI lag in ICS, so I haven't seen any difference in JB. The animations are shorter, so events seem to happen faster, but if you turn off animations on ICS and JB both, you see that they are equally fast.

Nexus 4: the most lagfree android device?

Hi all, the nexus 4 is the devices that I want to buy, but I wanted to ask you something: is it the most lagfree device avaible in the market? How is it after installing many apps? I've read in many reviews that's the smoothest android device, but I would like some confirmations
PS: I have a galaxy ace and I know that the nexus 4 will definitely be a super-upgrade

I've got about 100 or so installed apps and it works just fine.
Edit: just checked. I have 129 apps.
From a Nexus 4 bathing in Jelly Beans

Its definitely one of the fastest out there if not the fastest. The pure Google experience that you get with the phone is awesome. If you like to flash your phone there's a huge variety of roms that can be personalized to the tiniest details, and with the right combination of a rom and a decent kernel you will forget what lag is.
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Oh, I know what flashing is and I think I will mess around with that!

The Zel said:
Oh, I know what flashing is and I think I will mess around with that!
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After you flash for the first time, you will become an addict, beware
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With a nexus 4 you won't "need" to flash anything, you can do it if you want some extra customizations, but even the stock rom is lag free. Install apex or nova launcher and boost animation/window speed, and you'll get an even snappier experience.
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I played with HTC One which is claimed to be the fastest, smoothest, and powerful Android phone. Yes it is! But sometimes you will have the stutter feeling when opening apps, just sometimes though, and it is somewhat unpredictable. its fast but not quite like a Nexus. you have to experience it to know what i mean. plus most apps are developed based on a Nexus, so yeah you'll have the best experience.
I have about 113 apps and still no lag. stock everything until last week i flashed franco kernel. planning to jump onto cyanogenmod tomorrow.

With all the things you say, you make me desire more and more the nexus!

I'm on stock, unlocked and rooted with 700hrs of up-time so far, no crashes other than a couple of 3rd party apps and no lag whatsoever =)
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just grab this amazing phone..
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Had my N4 since Xmas and whilst the UI is smooth scrolling in certain apps is a pain, like XDA or tapatalk or facebook.
I have tried loads of roms, currently using Sabermod which has the least lag but there is still judder issues with some apps, ALL android devices that I have used (N1, S2, S3, N4) have suffered this problem. Until all major apps act as lag free as my launcher I cannot say the N4 is lag free

bentez2003 said:
Had my N4 since Xmas and whilst the UI is smooth scrolling in certain apps is a pain, like XDA or tapatalk or facebook.
I have tried loads of roms, currently using Sabermod which has the least lag but there is still judder issues with some apps, ALL android devices that I have used (N1, S2, S3, N4) have suffered this problem. Until all major apps act as lag free as my launcher I cannot say the N4 is lag free
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The problem there is the app itself
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hey man, I came from cooper too and now I have an N4. It's a really good phone, specially when you flash franco's kernel and CM10.1 nightlys (yeah, you don't have anymore to wait updates from Maclaw, OldDroid or biel ). Battery life is good, and with franco kernel it's even better.
All the UI and system apps are really smooth, but when using some apps it's a pain to scrool (apps's fault). Videos and music also play without interruptions. Buy it, you will not regret.

Well I also have a note 10.1 and I'm not sure I'm noticing the lag you're talking about in the facebook app...

I've had every galaxy s series phone available from the vibrant to the sII then the s3 tried the s4....and absolutely nothing comes close to the Nexus experience period.
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Compared next to the s4 this phone actually opens and closes apps faster by a split second or so, but the dual core s3 is faster than the s4 in my opinion so....
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bentez2003 said:
Had my N4 since Xmas and whilst the UI is smooth scrolling in certain apps is a pain, like XDA or tapatalk or facebook.
I have tried loads of roms, currently using Sabermod which has the least lag but there is still judder issues with some apps, ALL android devices that I have used (N1, S2, S3, N4) have suffered this problem. Until all major apps act as lag free as my launcher I cannot say the N4 is lag free
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You picked the worst apps =p
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bentez2003 said:
Had my N4 since Xmas and whilst the UI is smooth scrolling in certain apps is a pain, like XDA or tapatalk or facebook.
I have tried loads of roms, currently using Sabermod which has the least lag but there is still judder issues with some apps, ALL android devices that I have used (N1, S2, S3, N4) have suffered this problem. Until all major apps act as lag free as my launcher I cannot say the N4 is lag free
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I don't think what you are describing is lag caused by the Nexus 4...
It's lag caused by your data speed.
With your facebook example, scolling sometimes stuters as it downloads the actual data & information from facebook itself.
The facebook app tries to place new information at the top & then it tens to want to automatically jump to the top.
If you were connected to LTE or even a fast WiFi connection that problem would be less noticable.
But as said earlier... it's just bad coding from facebook.
Come on man, the Nexus is amazing...
It has the same amount of RAM as my work computer, & lags less.

Personally I find the Nexus 4 to be a very fast device, I wont say lag free as I can certainly see some lag but is it the fastest device out? You bet, ive played around with a very new note 2 and an s4, the N4 seems to be much faster than the Note2 and marginally faster than the s4 just pressing the home button on those two devices show about .5 seconds slower than my n4 in action.
Battery life? Hmm struggle with mine if I am honest but I get a day now, it seems I get way less than everyone else and I am not sure why but I feel i got unlucky with my device and I pray to god I have a faulty power button or something so I can RMA within the warranty to hope for a new device haha.
Its the best value phone and has pretty much the same specs as the top phones, whats not to like? And its a Nexus .
Maybe I should add that the device is also faster than the iphones/ipads I have used which shocked me as people always praised their performance... lol, the N4 is simply held back by some poorly coded applications but what can you do? Hope Developers get better

rayiskon said:
...but even the stock rom is lag free.
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Strange; I install the factory ROM onto my N4 and N10, and was quickly reminded as to what lag truly was... it was not pleasing :/