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Stutter in screen scrolling

Right now with all the new kenels with have manage to approach 60fps. But it will never be smooth enough if we dont get the stutter fix.
Before u begin and say that your phone does not have the stutter, well it does. The problem is at any window such has contact if u swipe u get a very smooth scrolling but if you hold your finger and scroll very slowly u will see microstutter and not a smooth scrolling.
Im not sure if this has been posted before and dont know if it might be the screen or actual Os
Im holding the zune hd & iphone. Both device does not suffer from this microstutter
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Strange I have no stutter using fresh 3.2 with stock kernel.
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eduardmc said:
Before u begin and say that your phone does not have the stutter, well it does.
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MaliciousOne said:
Strange I have no stutter using fresh 3.2 with stock kernel.
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Strange I do have stutter using fresh 3.2 with stock kernel.
And I agree with OP. I knew I wasn't the only one who noticed this. When flicking through homescreens on launcher pro (or even sense) the scrolling is completely smooth. When you hold your finger on the screen and move it, it stutters and makes very tiny jumps. It's not appealing. It's great we've been able to crack the 30fps limit despite HTC's unhelpful attitude. I think the next step would be to get rid of the stuttering.

I have the same exact issue and have noticed this from day one. It's quite annoying. I thought the fix for fps would stop it, but I was wrong. I've tried to ignore it, but such a thing cannot be ignored by my eyes. It's noticeable every time and more annoying each time.
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I have been bothered by this since day one also. its the only negative thing a colleague of mine (blackberry user) has to say when he compares iphone to evo. its there wether you notice or not

When "slowly" dragging my finger to change screens I see that initial stutter but I'm not seeing the "jumping." Or is it that initial stutter?
Usually flicking through the screens as fast as my finger can go and it looks smooth as a babies .... bowel movement.

conqu1stador said:
When "slowly" dragging my finger to change screens I see that initial stutter but I'm not seeing the "jumping." Or is it that initial stutter?
Usually flicking through the screens as fast as my finger can go and it looks smooth as a babies .... bowel movement.
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it won't be noticeable until you have an iphone or zune hd, who ever saids that it's not there is because they have not notice it at all. i have use all fresh roms and still have it.
Go to a website or to contacts and swipe to scroll, you will see a very butter smooth scrolling. Have a iphone on hand and do the same, you'll that the smoothness is about the same. Now grab the screen with your finger and slowly without let in go of the finger scroll up or down. You'll see a microstutter which is very obvious when you compare it to a OS like iphone or Zune HD (and from video do not see it in wm7). Is very annoying. I have the iphone 4g next to me and can tell you that the scrolling between home screens are about the same smoothness wise (using launcher pro with king's kenel #8). But the microstutter is so obvious between devices that is to hard not to notice.
like i said, i'm not sure if this is due to the screen or what, i'll try it on my sister nexus but is good that could take a development look into this problem aswell.

Maybe a nova/epson difference. Because my nova does not stutter.
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Maybe a nova/epson difference. Because my nova does not stutter.
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Nova is what i have at the moment and this happens. running Evio, my friend with me right now has an epson running fresh and does it has well.

The people who claim they don't have it are simply not seeing it, but it's definitely there. It's on my brother's evo, mine, and my friends.
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Honestly have to say I forgot what the sense contacts evn look like..if even different from aosp cm6...but if memory serves it is slightly and I get a smooth scroll. Went to some image heavy sites and notices that pictures sorta pixelate a bit when slowly scrolling but text bodies and links scroll smooth when inching along. Using dolphin HD over stock if that counts for anything. Like I said I see a slight stutter on homescreens initially but it scrolls smooth and as said maybe the aosp isn't giving me issues. Not sure?
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Honestly have to say I forgot what the sense contacts evn look like..if even different from aosp cm6...but if memory serves it is slightly and I get a smooth scroll. Went to some image heavy sites and notices that pictures sorta pixelate a bit when slowly scrolling but text bodies and links scroll smooth when inching along. Using dolphin HD over stock if that counts for anything. Like I said I see a slight stutter on homescreens initially but it scrolls smooth and as said maybe the aosp isn't giving me issues. Not sure?
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i have tried CM6 and still there. It will always be smooth with any rom, even more with cm6, but this is something else. Is something with how the screen detects the scrolling touch while holding it.
like i said before, you'll not really notice it much until you see an iphone and compare both side by side. Then you'll see the problem i'm talking about.

as a previous iPhone user, this was the first thing I noticed when I got the phone. the scrolling just isn't as smooth.

build.prop edits for droid x:
To enable better scrolling speed through lists, I changed
windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=55
to
windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=60
Scrolling through the app drawer and contacts and any lists really is now smoother
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771232

Very cool hopefully fix is implemented in are customs fast

cnstarz said:
build.prop edits for droid x:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771232
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Awesome, dude. Thanks a lot. Just did exactly what the post said, so I'll be testing this.
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i dont know if this will work for the evo. i dont really notice a difference using cm6. perhaps others will have better luck.

It's only been about ten minutes since my last post but I don't see a HUGE difference. IMO this isn't worth doing. I wonder if this problem will ever be fixed. Oh well.
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I cant find that windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=55 in my build.prop file

potrait in 3.2!

i just found that launcher in 3.2 is now as smooth s butter when running at potrait mode. browser speed is also increased slightly. great news to xoom owners

Yeap, in portrait is working really smooth now, I did not use the browser jet... hahahaha
Just one thing, when you change from portrait to landscape or otherwise it still takes some time to adapt, a few seconds but after that... it goes really smooth....
I did tried some mkv files, but they did not work fine for me... I have seen other users that tried them and work fine for them.. I do not know why...

What about upside down? It used to lag badly upside down.
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thats weird my xoom doesn't lag when upside down...I do it often took....well only when I'm charging and am using a dock

binglut9 said:
thats weird my xoom doesn't lag when upside down...I do it often took....well only when I'm charging and am using a dock
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Its typically on desktop during screen rotation. I know I'm not the only one whose experienced it, I've seen it mentioned a few times before. Its really odd because being upside down should be no different, at least I assume.
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sirius b said:
Its typically on desktop during screen rotation. I know I'm not the only one whose experienced it, I've seen it mentioned a few times before. Its really odd because being upside down should be no different, at least I assume.
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You're definitely not the only one. It was a known issue. Happy to say it's fixed now. Though there's a part of me that still wonders how an issue like that ever made it into a major release in the first place.

i think it turns ALOT faster now. Like, I dont mind turning it because it barely takes time anymore.

hatworthy said:
You're definitely not the only one. It was a known issue. Happy to say it's fixed now. Though there's a part of me that still wonders how an issue like that ever made it into a major release in the first place.
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Good to hear, and you and me both wonder that, not only an official release but multiples, from 3.0 through 3.1.
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Thanks for reporting this. It was the only thing I was scanning all the 3.2 posts for, and no one else had chimed in on the matter quite yet.

hatworthy said:
You're definitely not the only one. It was a known issue. Happy to say it's fixed now. Though there's a part of me that still wonders how an issue like that ever made it into a major release in the first place.
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It was explained at Google I/O I think. Basically Tegra 2 couldn't handle rotation, so they were forced to do it in software. They've probably come up with some clever tricks to optimize things since then, thus the boost in performance.

i still get lag in launcher at portrait mode. not as bad as before, but still lagging.
On the other hand, its very smooth upside down.
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yeah now that I've installed 3.2 I don't see much of a difference at all. Still too laggy for me.

how about trying few times of reboot? cause mine really as smooth as butter now.. removed adw too

Laggy browsers

I'm on stock jvs and the browser I'd really laggy when scrolling on some websites. it takes ages to respond. How do I fix it? I've tried stock browser and dolphin
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Have you tried wiping the cache and history... I've found formatting the internal sd after a while helps, obviously you will loose everything on it, but just back up what you need..
If that dont work try some of the tweaks in the stickes

What ROM are you using?
I really enjoy the layout of Opera Mobile, and I find it to have absolutely no lag whatsoever; even while pages are loading, I can freely scroll around as I please. Granted, I'm using CM7 and have a highly tweaked phone. In general, my phone doesn't really lag at all.

seeraj15 said:
I'm on stock jvs and the browser I'd really laggy when scrolling on some websites. it takes ages to respond. How do I fix it? I've tried stock browser and dolphin
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What websites?

The truth is that every browser lags once a while, we cant help it. Dolphin hd is the best browser without a doubt but it also lags a bit sometimes.
hit thankxx if i helped. sent from my mind through telepathy (ya its possible)!

Browser is laggy when your page is loading, try to wait when it is loaded at full, also when browser loading it is killing apps in background deppending on your page size. Also it is normal that browser laggs with "heavy" pages, there you can do nothing, it will lagg with every browser in this situation.
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Websites such as sky sports and fantasy premier league take ages to respond when I'm trying to scroll.
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seeraj15 said:
Websites such as sky sports and fantasy premier league take ages to respond when I'm trying to scroll.
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Well you can do one thing, use dolphin browser hd its the best and it has kill ad in which can be downloaded from market and then on the side bar of dolphin browser their is a 1 click option to kill background apps which browsing faster.
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No problems with semaphore kern
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seeraj15 said:
Websites such as sky sports and fantasy premier league take ages to respond when I'm trying to scroll.
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Both sites work perfectly fine on my phone. I have the complete ability to scroll, zoom in, etc. while the site is loading. No lag whatsoever.

upichie said:
Both sites work perfectly fine on my phone. I have the complete ability to scroll, zoom in, etc. while the site is loading. No lag whatsoever.
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Pretty much true.
The only exception, and I've seen this on other sites, are the pages that have large rotating images (JavaScript, not Flash) that fade in and out.
Those pages sometimes experience slowdowns... other than that, both sites are completely smooth for me. (Odexed JVR)

seeraj15 said:
I'm on stock jvs and the browser I'd really laggy when scrolling on some websites. it takes ages to respond. How do I fix it? I've tried stock browser and dolphin
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Perhaps your rom is deodexed. Most deodexed browsers lag. Try using dolphinn browser or opera mobile. Opera isn't as good as dolphin, but it allows you to download from sites like filesonic.

mate i've been over different roms, and different kernels, overclocking etc. There's just some pages where it has always lagged for me. Most seem to be ok, but some are just impossible.. Usually use stock browser, have tried others but for some sites dont think it really matters, it's going to lag either way.
There's an australian footy site over here which has a bit of flash content etc and it takes ages to load even on wifi and can lag bigtime at times. Would be extremely impressed (and jealous) if anyone doesn't have lag on their phones on it.
www.afl.com.au

Yeah some pages the phone with stock browser (or dolphin hd) just can't handle smoothly. Too much going on, need more power like in the SGS2 to really handle it (opera might be better than stock or dolphin hd but I didn't like the interface when I tried it). IIRC the SGS2 has enough juice to play embedded 720p flash video, where 320p is a stretch for the SGS.

westcoastricho said:
mate i've been over different roms, and different kernels, overclocking etc. There's just some pages where it has always lagged for me. Most seem to be ok, but some are just impossible.. Usually use stock browser, have tried others but for some sites dont think it really matters, it's going to lag either way.
There's an australian footy site over here which has a bit of flash content etc and it takes ages to load even on wifi and can lag bigtime at times. Would be extremely impressed (and jealous) if anyone doesn't have lag on their phones on it.
www.afl.com.au
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Definitely a lot going on at that page. It probably took a solid 10 seconds to fully load it on Wifi, haha. Surprisingly, there were a couple hiccups while it was loading on my phone—but only three very minor hesitations in scrolling in the entire 10 seconds of load time.
Sounds like you guys just need to tweak your phones a little.

With my SGS I get lag in the stock browser, where my Atrix is fine (which I'm guessing has to do with the extra ram).
For any sites on my SGS that lag, (which does include XDA at times) I try to go Opera Mobile whenever possible and that usually is enough for me...
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The browser lags on aforementioned websites. I also experience lag on phonearena.com, pocketnow.com and rebtel.com. This might be related to the ram problem.
The sites don't lag on my zte blade which has 512 MB too. But maybe that has more free ram.
Wonder if galaxy S plus suffers from the same problem. Anyone have experience with SGS Plus or have heard anything about this?

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Definitely a lot going on at that page. It probably took a solid 10 seconds to fully load it on Wifi, haha. Surprisingly, there were a couple hiccups while it was loading on my phone—but only three very minor hesitations in scrolling in the entire 10 seconds of load time.
Sounds like you guys just need to tweak your phones a little.
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yeh it's a heavy site, thought there would of been some problems. but seems yours performed still a bit better than mine. hopefully will get it worked out sometime.

Nothing wrong with your phones dudes, more that enough firepower to browse smoothly.
Just poorly optimized coding imo. To prove this you need to try Opera Mobile.
Same phone, same websites, different browser, NO LAG WHATSOEVER.
- no lag scrolling even while loading
- no lag zooming even while loading
- no lag whatsoever anywhere including that site www.afl.com.au (it just takes a while to load cos its huge, but no lag still)
- flash works great (this MAY lag a bit but that's flash for you on this phone, not opera's fault)
Doesn't matter what android version/kernel you're running either. I tried almost every rom/kernel combo out there (2.2.x, 2.3.x, custom, stock, semaphore, darky, talon, etc), makes no difference for this, really.
That said, other developers need to work better on their software. Opera has just proven it's perfectly possible to browse lag-free and it's not the hardware that's lacking. Although, to be fair, i'm not sure what more could i ask from a browser that opera doesn't provide already.

Interesting one of the sites that lagged really bad in dolphin hd, canadacomputers.com, was much smoother in the stock browser. Odd I though they were pretty the same, although I do notice that stock browser does the white/grey checkerboard thing (also the thing where zooming in blurs until it 're-renders') while dolphin does not. I hate how 'tabs' work in the stock browser though, maybe I'll give opera another shot.

Stuttering/Not Smooth

Hi, first post here!
I was just wondering if anybody else has noticed a little bit of stuttering/lack of smoothness when doing certain things? For example, scrolling down Facebook is not smooth at all for me, Twitter is a lot better but still isn't perfectly smooth! I also notice a bit of stuttering in games such as Temple Run. Also when I go to the menu and scroll right, the first time it stutters a bit, but then will be perfectly smooth after that!
I'm unsure whether this is just the phone, or there is a problem with mine/something slowing it down? I might have just not noticed it when I first got the phone, but I am sure everything was perfectly smooth before.

I would say, yes... but you said "not smooth at all". Is this even after it has loaded pictures, posts, statuses, etc? Maybe a video of this in action or something could help out.
For now, I'm going to say yes, I have noticed stuttering. It is slight and it occurs because the phone and apps are not perfect.
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Yet.

DecTaylor said:
Hi, first post here!
I was just wondering if anybody else has noticed a little bit of stuttering/lack of smoothness when doing certain things? For example, scrolling down Facebook is not smooth at all for me, Twitter is a lot better but still isn't perfectly smooth! I also notice a bit of stuttering in games such as Temple Run. Also when I go to the menu and scroll right, the first time it stutters a bit, but then will be perfectly smooth after that!
I'm unsure whether this is just the phone, or there is a problem with mine/something slowing it down? I might have just not noticed it when I first got the phone, but I am sure everything was perfectly smooth before.
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Ok, but please: Do not blame your phone for the badliest-programmed-app-on-the-whole-planet-ever, named Facebook.

Really mate... These are app issues and have nothing at all to so with the phone.
I titanium bu to freez the Facebook app. It uses memory and battery 24/7..I use the tabr app for fb and twitter.
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Problems with badly coded apps rather than the phone itself.

Richieboy67 said:
Really mate... These are app issues and have nothing at all to so with the phone.
I titanium bu to freez the Facebook app. It uses memory and battery 24/7..
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Could these apps be effected the rest of the phone though? Like I said the menus can stutter sometimes, where they didn't before, and also scrolling down in everything single app has definitely lost the smoothness it had!

DecTaylor said:
Could these apps be effected the rest of the phone though? Like I said the menus can stutter sometimes, where they didn't before, and also scrolling down in everything single app has definitely lost the smoothness it had!
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I sometimes face this micro stuttering too on entering app center for the first time, entering and swiping the second time after the screen turned off doesn't stutter.
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Have you experienced lag?

Do you experience lag when using the phone. I've experienced lag during basic operations like working with emails in Inbox, app drawer, recent apps, quick menu, scrolling nearly anywhere, etc.

The only lag I've seen thats really bad for me is when swiping to close apps.

X10D3 said:
Do you experience lag when using the phone. I've experienced lag during basic operations like working with emails in Inbox, app drawer, recent apps, quick menu, scrolling nearly anywhere, etc.
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I've only seen it on the keyboard when I'm texting...seems to work fine in every other app though.

Only very occasionally with the keyboard.
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Only very occasionally with the keyboard.
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I wonder if it's the phone or just a Google keyboard issue? Definitely not a big deal, but kinda frustrating

I thought I was the only one seeing small keyboard lag lol otherwise everything else is OK.

I am using SwiftKey and the emoji's lag. In the phone app when scrolling through the history - terrible stutter...I mean really bad! Other than those two..which are not that important...the phone is great!

The contacts list in Hangouts is pretty laggy for me but that's the app, not the phone. I'm very happy with my purchase.

No Lag but I have had several crashes/restarts. I'm trying to figure out if I have an app causing me the problem. I'm using Nova Launcher and may try to use the Stock one for a bit to see if that is the cause.

I'm using nova. No issues like that. I've noticed a change since I did a factory reset. You may try that.

Since we are talking about lag and speed in this thread I figured I'd post this comparison between the Pure and the S6. I recommend you take a look, I was surprised at the results. His second time through the test is pretty telling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdhoK5UQ-eQ

What lag.

I get minimal stuttering whole scrolling through screens here and there but really nothing major
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Coming from a G4 (lag central), I can't tell any lag. I did have one issue where I apparently had too many running apps/processes at once and the phone froze for a few seconds. I cleared all of my running apps, freeing RAM, and haven't had the issue since.
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brholt6 said:
I wonder if it's the phone or just a Google keyboard issue? Definitely not a big deal, but kinda frustrating
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I've been experiencing stuttering around the device, it's not a big deal however. I think the 808 is struggling with the 1440p display.

slibby said:
I've been experiencing stuttering around the device, it's not a big deal however. I think the 808 is struggling with the 1440p display.
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This is what I'm seeing. Although my wife's phone seems pretty smooth.......

Since the Google App updated with the vertical scrolling feature, I am not getting much lag anymore.

I Have had the phone since the 16th and have had maybe one or two times when the multitasking screen lags just a little when 1st opened. That's all I have seen in my week of owning the Moto X.

X10D3 said:
This is what I'm seeing. Although my wife's phone seems pretty smooth.......
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What phone does your wife have?

slibby said:
What phone does your wife have?
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We bought the same phone just different configurations.
Both 32GB
Me: Black, Ash
Her: White, Bamboo
Is everyone that's not experiencing lag using the 64gb version?