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Stutter in screen scrolling

Right now with all the new kenels with have manage to approach 60fps. But it will never be smooth enough if we dont get the stutter fix.
Before u begin and say that your phone does not have the stutter, well it does. The problem is at any window such has contact if u swipe u get a very smooth scrolling but if you hold your finger and scroll very slowly u will see microstutter and not a smooth scrolling.
Im not sure if this has been posted before and dont know if it might be the screen or actual Os
Im holding the zune hd & iphone. Both device does not suffer from this microstutter
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Strange I have no stutter using fresh 3.2 with stock kernel.
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eduardmc said:
Before u begin and say that your phone does not have the stutter, well it does.
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Oh really?
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MaliciousOne said:
Strange I have no stutter using fresh 3.2 with stock kernel.
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Strange I do have stutter using fresh 3.2 with stock kernel.
And I agree with OP. I knew I wasn't the only one who noticed this. When flicking through homescreens on launcher pro (or even sense) the scrolling is completely smooth. When you hold your finger on the screen and move it, it stutters and makes very tiny jumps. It's not appealing. It's great we've been able to crack the 30fps limit despite HTC's unhelpful attitude. I think the next step would be to get rid of the stuttering.

I have the same exact issue and have noticed this from day one. It's quite annoying. I thought the fix for fps would stop it, but I was wrong. I've tried to ignore it, but such a thing cannot be ignored by my eyes. It's noticeable every time and more annoying each time.
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I have been bothered by this since day one also. its the only negative thing a colleague of mine (blackberry user) has to say when he compares iphone to evo. its there wether you notice or not

When "slowly" dragging my finger to change screens I see that initial stutter but I'm not seeing the "jumping." Or is it that initial stutter?
Usually flicking through the screens as fast as my finger can go and it looks smooth as a babies .... bowel movement.

conqu1stador said:
When "slowly" dragging my finger to change screens I see that initial stutter but I'm not seeing the "jumping." Or is it that initial stutter?
Usually flicking through the screens as fast as my finger can go and it looks smooth as a babies .... bowel movement.
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it won't be noticeable until you have an iphone or zune hd, who ever saids that it's not there is because they have not notice it at all. i have use all fresh roms and still have it.
Go to a website or to contacts and swipe to scroll, you will see a very butter smooth scrolling. Have a iphone on hand and do the same, you'll that the smoothness is about the same. Now grab the screen with your finger and slowly without let in go of the finger scroll up or down. You'll see a microstutter which is very obvious when you compare it to a OS like iphone or Zune HD (and from video do not see it in wm7). Is very annoying. I have the iphone 4g next to me and can tell you that the scrolling between home screens are about the same smoothness wise (using launcher pro with king's kenel #8). But the microstutter is so obvious between devices that is to hard not to notice.
like i said, i'm not sure if this is due to the screen or what, i'll try it on my sister nexus but is good that could take a development look into this problem aswell.

Maybe a nova/epson difference. Because my nova does not stutter.
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Maybe a nova/epson difference. Because my nova does not stutter.
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Nova is what i have at the moment and this happens. running Evio, my friend with me right now has an epson running fresh and does it has well.

The people who claim they don't have it are simply not seeing it, but it's definitely there. It's on my brother's evo, mine, and my friends.
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Honestly have to say I forgot what the sense contacts evn look like..if even different from aosp cm6...but if memory serves it is slightly and I get a smooth scroll. Went to some image heavy sites and notices that pictures sorta pixelate a bit when slowly scrolling but text bodies and links scroll smooth when inching along. Using dolphin HD over stock if that counts for anything. Like I said I see a slight stutter on homescreens initially but it scrolls smooth and as said maybe the aosp isn't giving me issues. Not sure?
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Honestly have to say I forgot what the sense contacts evn look like..if even different from aosp cm6...but if memory serves it is slightly and I get a smooth scroll. Went to some image heavy sites and notices that pictures sorta pixelate a bit when slowly scrolling but text bodies and links scroll smooth when inching along. Using dolphin HD over stock if that counts for anything. Like I said I see a slight stutter on homescreens initially but it scrolls smooth and as said maybe the aosp isn't giving me issues. Not sure?
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i have tried CM6 and still there. It will always be smooth with any rom, even more with cm6, but this is something else. Is something with how the screen detects the scrolling touch while holding it.
like i said before, you'll not really notice it much until you see an iphone and compare both side by side. Then you'll see the problem i'm talking about.

as a previous iPhone user, this was the first thing I noticed when I got the phone. the scrolling just isn't as smooth.

build.prop edits for droid x:
To enable better scrolling speed through lists, I changed
windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=55
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windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=60
Scrolling through the app drawer and contacts and any lists really is now smoother
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771232

Very cool hopefully fix is implemented in are customs fast

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build.prop edits for droid x:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771232
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Awesome, dude. Thanks a lot. Just did exactly what the post said, so I'll be testing this.
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i dont know if this will work for the evo. i dont really notice a difference using cm6. perhaps others will have better luck.

It's only been about ten minutes since my last post but I don't see a HUGE difference. IMO this isn't worth doing. I wonder if this problem will ever be fixed. Oh well.
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I cant find that windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=55 in my build.prop file

Web browsing performance? smooth scroll?

So, any browsing lag like described here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=873364

gogol said:
So, any browsing lag like described here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=873364
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I havent had anything even relating to lag since i started using this phone at 8 , i love it ,, sorry Nexi, you will never been forgotten <3

Start at 2:05
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=scawEG9dryA
Flash enabled though.

It has something to do with the fact that the Hummingbird SoC is not optimized for flash acceleration.

Someone post a video scrolling around Android central zoomed out like that with Flash disabled so we can tell how much of that lag is actually caused by Flash.

I went to both anandtech.com and androidcentral.com to try to replicate the issues witnessed in those videos.
No problems whatsoever. Scrolling is fine, even when not zoomed in. Pinch-to-zoom is fast. Flash is enabled.

mmas0n said:
I went to both anandtech.com and androidcentral.com to try to replicate the issues witnessed in those videos.
No problems whatsoever. Scrolling is fine, even when not zoomed in. Pinch-to-zoom is fast.
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What's your definition of fine? It would still be great to get a video so we can judge for ourselves.
Fine like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkZZXeF5uV8

gtg465x said:
What's your definition of fine? It would still be great to get a video so we can judge for ourselves.
Fine like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkZZXeF5uV8
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Not fine like that, no.

SADLY: the LAG in the browser is indeed there - and it shows up only after you have installed a decent number of apps (i have 67).
This is EXACTLY how it was on the SGS until Samsung released a fix.
Out of the box, it hardly lags - but as soon as i install some apps the lag starts. not always, but it is there.
shame.

67 apps and you complain about the lag?

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67 apps and you complain about the lag?
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Seriously?
YES i complain about lad with 67apps installed where my droid X has 100apps and there is zero lag.
My Nexus one has 110apps and there was no lag.

Solution:
Stick with Droid X or Nexus One. I use my phone heavily for work (2 Exchange accounts used all the time, 1 GMail) and I develop Android apps and have never had the need for more than 20-25 apps. Out of those 67, 30-40 can be useful tops, but 67, no way jose

Web browsing is smooth and fast. I think I like this phone better than the Vibrant. So far so good, no issue.

My mytouch 4g was definitely smoother when it comes to scrolling. It also automatically re-wrapped the text when I used pinch to zoom. With the nexus s it only re-wrapps text when I use the zoom control buttoms on the display.
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When I finish my exam tomorrow I will try to post a video. There is a lag sometimes but foe this site it's. Almost as smooth as what u posted.
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What's your definition of fine? It would still be great to get a video so we can judge for ourselves.
Fine like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkZZXeF5uV8
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c_licious said:
My mytouch 4g was definitely smoother when it comes to scrolling. It also automatically re-wrapped the text when I used pinch to zoom. With the nexus s it only re-wrapps text when I use the zoom control buttoms on the display.
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Pinch zoom and then double tap the text for reflow. The standard way.

I think lag is caused by using more app in the background. It will be very smooth but if u open like 10 apps or so you will get some lag. So try to test it with and without that many apps running ...
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raeef said:
I think lag is caused by using more app in the background. It will be very smooth but if u open like 10 apps or so you will get some lag. So try to test it with and without that many apps running ...
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I said installed apps. Not running apps. Of course I don't run 67apps in the background...not even one to be honest.
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Browser is not at all improved from my Nexus One. EXTREMELY disappointed and the main reason why I will probably return this phone within the 30 days.

what i noticed is that flash (mostly ads) is causing the lag on my phone. i dont need flash all of the time so it went into the browser settings>enable plugins> and set it to on demand. that way flash isnt loading all of the time, only when i click on a certain flash element that i want to watch. makes pages load faster and probably saves battery too.

Did my Xoom just get faster?!

I picked up the Xoom on launch day and I've been pretty content with it so far, but I won't hide the fact that the device has a lot of random laggy moments, stutters, and glitches. Opening the app drawer looked like it was at 10fps, scrolling through the home screens would lag quite often, etc.
I don't know what happened, but after I just went into the android market to update my applications I swear my Xoom got a speed increase. Going through homescreens is super snappy now, it was never this smooth before. The app drawer looks great when you open/close it now, and everything just seems so snappy now. I was getting a little annoyed by all the home screen lag and random stutters, especially with a dual core processor that just shouldn't happen. I know other users have reported lag as well, has anyone else recently noticed a speed increase?
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Since its that then im willing to bet that you had an app that was (before update) making your xoom seem slower than it should. Now that the app was updated, Xoom runs smoother. Thats my guess.

HorsexD said:
Since its that then im willing to bet that you had an app that was (before update) making your xoom seem slower than it should. Now that the app was updated, Xoom runs smoother. Thats my guess.
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People say that, but I doubt it dude! One application couldn't make the entire device sluggish like that

Arcadia310 said:
People say that, but I doubt it dude! One application couldn't make the entire device sluggish like that
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One application can hijack your Xoom and hose it up. All it takes is one....

I also noticed the lag, and mine is gone now too. When I added my google account, all the apps from my phone were loaded onto my Xoom, plus it was downloading all of my picasa web pics. It was cool, but way too much going on and it installed way too many apps that were probably not cool with honeycomb.
I removed all of the apps and rebooted, and things run perfectly now.

I agree with horsexd. I haven't really felt much lag...well besides in the accelerometer which I think was intended.

I noticed a drop in lag after restarting after initial boot.
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Same after restart my xoom is lightening speed.
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I have found that once I got more comfortable with the xoom, I was going straight to what I needed. Not clicking too many things and going back because I meant to open something else.
I have the same experience on my phone.

Hmm. I've been in the market for the past 30 minutes and nothing has changed for me.
Rebooting my XOOM.
The honeycomb boot screen seems to be a bit faster.
[edit] I call shenanigans. The app screen is still choppy when I hit the apps drawer button.
Seems the same to me. Aside from pulling up the app drawer, it's been pretty snappy since I got it.

whenever mine gets turned on, the little honeycomb looking animation is usually choppy. I think once it ran smooth, but it was uber choppy on this first turn on.

I haven`t restarted my xoom but once since I got it and its blazing fast all the time.
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Have you experienced lag?

Do you experience lag when using the phone. I've experienced lag during basic operations like working with emails in Inbox, app drawer, recent apps, quick menu, scrolling nearly anywhere, etc.

The only lag I've seen thats really bad for me is when swiping to close apps.

X10D3 said:
Do you experience lag when using the phone. I've experienced lag during basic operations like working with emails in Inbox, app drawer, recent apps, quick menu, scrolling nearly anywhere, etc.
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I've only seen it on the keyboard when I'm texting...seems to work fine in every other app though.

Only very occasionally with the keyboard.
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Only very occasionally with the keyboard.
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I wonder if it's the phone or just a Google keyboard issue? Definitely not a big deal, but kinda frustrating

I thought I was the only one seeing small keyboard lag lol otherwise everything else is OK.

I am using SwiftKey and the emoji's lag. In the phone app when scrolling through the history - terrible stutter...I mean really bad! Other than those two..which are not that important...the phone is great!

The contacts list in Hangouts is pretty laggy for me but that's the app, not the phone. I'm very happy with my purchase.

No Lag but I have had several crashes/restarts. I'm trying to figure out if I have an app causing me the problem. I'm using Nova Launcher and may try to use the Stock one for a bit to see if that is the cause.

I'm using nova. No issues like that. I've noticed a change since I did a factory reset. You may try that.

Since we are talking about lag and speed in this thread I figured I'd post this comparison between the Pure and the S6. I recommend you take a look, I was surprised at the results. His second time through the test is pretty telling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdhoK5UQ-eQ

What lag.

I get minimal stuttering whole scrolling through screens here and there but really nothing major
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Coming from a G4 (lag central), I can't tell any lag. I did have one issue where I apparently had too many running apps/processes at once and the phone froze for a few seconds. I cleared all of my running apps, freeing RAM, and haven't had the issue since.
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brholt6 said:
I wonder if it's the phone or just a Google keyboard issue? Definitely not a big deal, but kinda frustrating
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I've been experiencing stuttering around the device, it's not a big deal however. I think the 808 is struggling with the 1440p display.

slibby said:
I've been experiencing stuttering around the device, it's not a big deal however. I think the 808 is struggling with the 1440p display.
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This is what I'm seeing. Although my wife's phone seems pretty smooth.......

Since the Google App updated with the vertical scrolling feature, I am not getting much lag anymore.

I Have had the phone since the 16th and have had maybe one or two times when the multitasking screen lags just a little when 1st opened. That's all I have seen in my week of owning the Moto X.

X10D3 said:
This is what I'm seeing. Although my wife's phone seems pretty smooth.......
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What phone does your wife have?

slibby said:
What phone does your wife have?
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We bought the same phone just different configurations.
Both 32GB
Me: Black, Ash
Her: White, Bamboo
Is everyone that's not experiencing lag using the 64gb version?

Scrolling Lag [VIDEO EXAMPLE]

I've seen 2 threads about lag here at Q&A but both were rather silent. However now i know i'm not the only one. My lag experience is so annoying... Like mentioned before here and here.
I have the exact same problem as mentioned in one of those threads.
LAG SHOWS WHEN:
-scrolling fast trough long list of packed SMS threads with Google messenger,
-scrolling fast through long list of comments in G+ comment section,
Might be somewhere else but i can't remember now. Funny thing is, other than that phone runs quick. Apps open quick, scrolling through settings, contacts, hangouts messages etc etc is buttery smooth... Someone mentioned playing intensive 3D games works great, so GPU shouldn't be an issue. How can some 2D list of strings f*** my phone up so bad?!
I tried almost anything. Erasing apps cache, re-flashing stock firmware, flashing custom ROM, rooting, unrooting..... Whats also weir that once or even twice i managed to work this out for a few days, so that G+ comment section was smooth as fu** but than one day it all came back. Without any apparent reason. I did not update the app or anything. I'm so confused.....
Here's a video i make to show what it looks like.
My experience:
Someone else's experience: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVTl3m1NMMY

I honestly think this phone has problems rendering contact photos. Just about everywhere they are there's scrolling lag due to loading the images: the contacts app, dialer, Google messenger, hangouts, etc. This never occurred on my Nexus 5.

sivarticus85 said:
I honestly think this phone has problems rendering contact photos. Just about everywhere they are there's scrolling lag due to loading the images: the contacts app, dialer, Google messenger, hangouts, etc. This never occurred on my Nexus 5.
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I just hope MM will give some results...

It's a shame with such good hardware on paper that we see this lag. My 3 year old Windows phone with Windows 10 on it is more fluid, and has much better battery to boot. ?

ryanrazer said:
I've seen 2 threads about lag here at Q&A but both were rather silent. However now i know i'm not the only one. My lag experience is so annoying... Like mentioned before here and here.
I have the exact same problem as mentioned in one of those threads.
LAG SHOWS WHEN:
-scrolling fast trough long list of packed SMS threads with Google messenger,
-scrolling fast through long list of comments in G+ comment section,
Might be somewhere else but i can't remember now. Funny thing is, other than that phone runs quick. Apps open quick, scrolling through settings, contacts, hangouts messages etc etc is buttery smooth... Someone mentioned playing intensive 3D games works great, so GPU shouldn't be an issue. How can some 2D list of strings f*** my phone up so bad?!
I tried almost anything. Erasing apps cache, re-flashing stock firmware, flashing custom ROM, rooting, unrooting..... Whats also weir that once or even twice i managed to work this out for a few days, so that G+ comment section was smooth as fu** but than one day it all came back. Without any apparent reason. I did not update the app or anything. I'm so confused.....
Here's a video i make to show what it looks like.
My experience:
Someone else's experience: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVTl3m1NMMY
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You think that's laggy? You haven't messed with a samsung yet. Those suckers lag way more
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eyecon82 said:
You think that's laggy? You haven't messed with a samsung yet. Those suckers lag way more
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Believe it or not, I'm coming from note 3 that phone was smooth!
However, I'm on MM now and Style has never been so smooth. I love it!

Marshmallow fixed the issue... Supper smooth!

Glad to hear marshmallow smooths things out even more. I have had some lag, but in the normal apps like Chrome, Facebook, etc. I would like to see these perform smooth scrolling as both Windows and iOS does. It's the only area I think android falls behind in. That, and standby battery life, but it seems marshmallow fixes some of that too.

jonathanbailie said:
Glad to hear marshmallow smooths things out even more. I have had some lag, but in the normal apps like Chrome, Facebook, etc. I would like to see these perform smooth scrolling as both Windows and iOS does. It's the only area I think android falls behind in. That, and standby battery life, but it seems marshmallow fixes some of that too.
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Yeah google knows how to make their apps heavy.... chrome?! RAM ?!