Who has experienced scratches on their new S6 Edge? I know this has been discussed on various threads, but no one has seemed to have actually gathered statistics about how widespread this might be/is.
EDIT: This probably might belong in the Q&A section and not here, if it does a mod can feel free to move it!
Here's a poll on Google Plus
https://plus.google.com/+ManuelAMartinez/posts/eEFigntX751
martinezma99 said:
Here's a poll on Google Plus
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ahh I see, thank you! I figured though it would be nice to have one here, since we also have multiple threads with hundreds of replies discussing this.
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ahh I see, thank you! I figured though it would be nice to have one here, since we also have multiple threads with hundreds of replies discussing this.
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Maybe you want to re title the thread to Poll: is your screen scratched?
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Maybe you want to re title the thread to Poll: is your screen scratched?
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And add link to OP?
martinezma99 said:
Maybe you want to re title the thread to Poll: is your screen scratched?
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And add link to OP?
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Done, good idea. I'll add the link to your poll in the OP soon - I'm still a new member so I'm not allowed to post links yet -_-
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Here's a poll on Google Plus
https://plus.google.com/+ManuelAMartinez/posts/eEFigntX751
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Forum poll would be preferred. I don't have a google+ account, and would be easier to just keep everything on here.
Edit: Nevermind see it
Forum poll already exists im this thread. Look at first post - use web view (not working in Tapatalk)
It looks like a third of owners from TMO have a scratched screen. This is a big deal. People may want to wait and buy one at the store to make sure it is scratched free.
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It looks like a third of owners from TMO have a scratched screen. This is a big deal. People may want to wait and buy one at the store to make sure it is scratched free.
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Definitely. Hopefully though when orders from AT&T/Verizon/Spring/others start coming in we'll be able to get a bigger picture of this whole situation. Maybe it's just a T-Mobile thing... wishful thinking?
Galaxy S (scratch) 6.
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Galaxy S (scratch) 6.
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Lol
Can any non-TMobile users chime in here? I know all the other major carriers are starting to or have already shipped units out.
i would say this is likely to be skewed results, the people with scratches screens, at least on google+, are prolly more likely to respond to this than ppl without scratched screens. Either way though, 30% on that poll saying scratched screens is a tad disconcerting..
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i would say this is likely to be skewed results, the people with scratches screens, at least on google+, are prolly more likely to respond to this than ppl without scratched screens. Either way though, 30% on that poll saying scratched screens is a tad disconcerting..
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I'd beg to argue the complete opposite - this poll is posted in the general forum, so any S6 Edge owner will come across it. Compared to the g+ poll, where you'd have to search pretty heavily to find it (at least in my case) which would generally imply you have that issue yourself - I don't spend my free time searching the internet for problems with the Flex 2 or Moto x Hopefully when more and more people get their devices we can start to paint a bigger picture about this whole situation.
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I'd beg to argue the complete opposite - this poll is posted in the general forum, so any S6 Edge owner will come across it. Compared to the g+ poll, where you'd have to search pretty heavily to find it (at least in my case) which would generally imply you have that issue yourself - I don't spend my free time searching the internet for problems with the Flex 2 or Moto x Hopefully when more and more people get their devices we can start to paint a bigger picture about this whole situation.
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yeah you have a point there.
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I'd beg to argue the complete opposite - this poll is posted in the general forum, so any S6 Edge owner will come across it. Compared to the g+ poll, where you'd have to search pretty heavily to find it (at least in my case) which would generally imply you have that issue yourself - I don't spend my free time searching the internet for problems with the Flex 2 or Moto x Hopefully when more and more people get their devices we can start to paint a bigger picture about this whole situation.
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The poll is critically flawed however.
It presumes those voting actually have an S6 Edge.
The fact anyone can tick yes or no without validating they actually have an S6 Edge makes any result scientifically untenable.
Anything so open to abuse without validation of proof will never be capable of truly being representative, or accurate. In a court of law, your evidence would be inadmissible.
Additionally it assumes that equal amount of people who get good and bad devices would be looking at a thread for pre-scratched screens when history as proved that those people with issues are far more likely to search and find threads than those which do not have issues with their device. It's called the distortion field of truth.
So as interesting as poll results like this are - they sadly will never ever be really indicative of a whole.
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The poll is critically flawed however.
It presumes those voting actually have an S6 Edge.
The fact anyone can tick yes or no without validating they actually have an S6 Edge makes any result scientifically untenable.
Anything so open to abuse without validation of proof will never be capable of truly being representative, or accurate. In a court of law, your evidence would be inadmissible.
Additionally it assumes that equal amount of people who get good and bad devices would be looking at a thread for pre-scratched screens when history as proved that those people with issues are far more likely to search and find threads than those which do not have issues with their device. It's called the distortion field of truth.
So as interesting as poll results like this are - they sadly will never ever be really indicative of a whole.
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You may be right but I find it interesting it has been a steady 70 to 30 ratio since the first 10 votes. I did not expect such a steady result.
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The poll is critically flawed however.
It presumes those voting actually have an S6 Edge.
The fact anyone can tick yes or no without validating they actually have an S6 Edge makes any result scientifically untenable.
Anything so open to abuse without validation of proof will never be capable of truly being representative, or accurate. In a court of law, your evidence would be inadmissible.
Additionally it assumes that equal amount of people who get good and bad devices would be looking at a thread for pre-scratched screens when history as proved that those people with issues are far more likely to search and find threads than those which do not have issues with their device. It's called the distortion field of truth.
So as interesting as poll results like this are - they sadly will never ever be really indicative of a whole.
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I never said these polls are completely accurate and I completely agree with what you're saying. But since there's no easy way to ensure people who are voting actually have the device, I feel like it's better to have some poll going than have nothing at all, because I highly doubt Samsung will have users "take a survey".
And maybe it's just me, but I still seem to have just *a little* faith in humanity - I like to think that people aren't being complete a-holes and ruining the polls just for fun -_-
Sadly one more for the yes choice.
Make sure you guys look at the screen under sunlight. I thought mine was perfectly fine in-store.
My phone, as well as my father's phone, both SM-G925i 64gb one black and one white, purchased in New Zealand, are fine and have no scratches on the screen out of the box.
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I am very pleased with my nexus S. I am keeping it for a looong time. I do not have any particular moans. I am happy
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I know well its pointless its more a response to the veritable plethora of negative, nexus bashing, dreary and pointless "I want rid of, dislike, unhappy with.....blah blah" posts that crop up at regular intervals. Plus its an open topic for the few happy nexus S owners to celebrate their boundless joy at their purchase
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I know well its pointless its more a response to the veritable plethora of negative, nexus bashing, dreary and pointless "I want rid of, dislike, unhappy with.....blah blah" posts that crop up at regular intervals. Plus its an open topic for the few happy nexus S owners to celebrate their boundless joy at their purchase
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Well, then perhaps you should rename it more appropriately. The current topic is a bit misleading.
Aren't there already "I love my Nexus S" threads anyways...?
yes, but then it will lose its effect
no one is going to read a topic tittle "my Nexus S is working!" "I love my Nexus S" or something along the line
LOL
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Well, then perhaps you should rename it more appropriately. The current topic is a bit misleading.
Aren't there already "I love my Nexus S" threads anyways...?
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I cast my eye on the first page of the "general" forum. Approximately 40% are dreary, negative topics that this is an indirect response to. As for nexus loving posts....they are well buried.
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"dreary and pointless "I want rid of, dislike, unhappy with.....blah blah""
Do you not think that's a little insulting to customers who have jsut forked out £429 for a phone that does not make calls properly?
Please refrain from being an idiot, unfounded moans are exactly that, but do not dumb down perfectly rightful and sane concerns regarding trading standards of BIG companies!
I do agree, it's a lovely device though
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Do you not think that's a little insulting to customers who have jsut forked out £429 for a phone that does not make calls properly?
Please refrain from being an idiot, unfounded moans are exactly that, but do not dumb down perfectly rightful and sane concerns regarding trading standards of BIG companies!
I do agree, it's a lovely device though
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Please refrain from labelling me an idiot as I have an IQ above 25
I have never had a single issue with my nexus, except self inflicted custom rom problems, and if I did have a major problem I would take it up with my phone supplier and not bore the pants off you lot on here with it. I merely make the point that there is a large amount of posts that in one way or another, ooze negativity and this is my counterbalance, because if a curious non nexus owner read these forums they would get the impression that Nexus S is a flawed and dodgy device. The XDA powers that be should consider opening another section for Nexus S "General complaints and moans". I think it would be the most popular forum and I could avoid it.
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I am very pleased with my nexus S. I am keeping it for a looong time. I do not have any particular moans. I am happy
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Dude you rock. You're getting a thanks for this thread when I get to my comp. Also, Americans need to start using the phrase shock horror.
Overall great thread. My wife and I both love our nexus s'. I owned an epic for months and that was a horrible device. Ay least with the nexus s Google is working on fixing the problems. People just need to either sell the phone their unhappy with or shut the hell up. Last i checked this wasn't xda-whingers.com it was xda-developers.com
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Do you not think that's a little insulting to customers who have jsut forked out £429 for a phone that does not make calls properly?
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Then why don't they just return the phone, get their money back, and buy something they are happy with?
Instead they seem to use the ownership of a "defective" item as a license to ***** and moan like it's December 21st, 2012.
-Make a purchase we're not happy with: we all do that.
-Return it, or sell it on eBay: signs of intelligence.
-Keep it, and complain bitterly about it: now that's just stupid.
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Dude you rock. You're getting a thanks for this thread when I get to my comp. Also, Americans need to start using the phrase shock horror.
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I actually regret this thread. It was due to depression/despondency reading about all the unhappiness generated about Nexus S. I am fine now and have personal inner peace about Nexus S. My one hope is that those few who love their nexus feel able to say so openly on this thread
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I actually regret this thread. It was due to depression/despondency reading about all the unhappiness generated about Nexus S. I am fine now and have personal inner peace about Nexus S. My one hope is that those few who love their nexus feel able to say so openly on this thread
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I have been feeling the same way lately. Every other thread is "waah my phone won't do this" or "Rawr I'm so angry that my phone does that". Its silly. If you're not happy about something chatting on the internet won't fix that. Either just shut the hell up about the issues your having because they will get fixed or sell it and get the hell out of here.
In answer to the above, is that i hope and pray that google sort the issues out and i get to keep this lovely device?
And i apologise to the guy above (willcpfc), not for sure saying "you were an idiot" ...more trying to stop you going down a path where you don't consider perfectly rightful concers as warranted.
I will take this back, if they do not sort it within the 30 day no quibble thing. If they iron out the bugs i have then i can keep this sweet lil number ...i do want this thing or i would not have walked into carphone warehouse and spend £429 right?
Was just trying to say, be carfeul calling complainers unfounded, especially when they have warranted concerns
much <3 to all
is it really that hard to consider the fustrations of people who want this thing, but cannto makes calls on it without fault? surely not right?
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I have been feeling the same way lately. Every other thread is "waah my phone won't do this" or "Rawr I'm so angry that my phone does that". Its silly. If you're not happy about something chatting on the internet won't fix that. Either just shut the hell up about the issues your having because they will get fixed or sell it and get the hell out of here.
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If we are happy that's all that matters. I look at my sleek, black, overclocked, cyanogen running, voodoo enabled machine and feel good
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is it really that hard to consider the fustrations of people who want this thing, but cannto makes calls on it without fault? surely not right?
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My point is that if you really want you bugs fixed, this is not the place. Google doesn't troll XDA for bugs it needs to work out, it has its own system in place that actually is pretty nice. All of the bugs I've heard of are on Google's bug reporting forum and if you have the issue go star it and comment. That's how you get the problem fixed not just constantly whinging on a developers forum.
Jamiemac1977, I admit it was wrong of me to launch an oblique attack on posters who I am sure have legitimate grievances. It is not my place to criticize. I just want a bit of happy shiny nexus owners to celebrate
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If we are happy that's all that matters. I look at my sleek, black, overclocked, cyanogen running, voodoo enabled machine and feel good
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I am happy as well. =) The only thing that could make my Nexus S better is getting a higher stable overclock =D (come on, 1.8GHz!)
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Jamiemac1977, I admit it was wrong of me to launch an oblique attack on posters who I am sure have legitimate grievances. It is not my place to criticize. I just want a bit of happy shiny nexus owners to celebrate
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Thanks for that, feeling is mutual, i should not rise ot the bait, pretty sure we all want a lovely sleek SNS in our pockets eh.
First time i've had an issue with a device and wanted to keep it, so that says something eh ...looking forward to a happy phone
holy smokes! that's like close to 2Ghz
it'll be nice if it didn't consume so much battery power and be able to maintain those higher clock rates
That's better. Some good, positive responses. we have some great and dedicated devs. We have the latest android. Its a good looking machine. I am sure it will grow and flourish like a flower in summer. We will see great things and be able to complete with dual core competition. Its a Google, its magnificent and we are privileged to possess one. And oneday I may even find a use for the "tag" feature!
Rather than continuously spamming our forums with all of your complaints I created this thread for you guys. Should you feel the need to *****, cry, moan, nag, nitpick or anything else similar please post here.
It's better to have one unproductive thread with a bunch of unproductive posts rather than a flood of "I'm returning my tf and feel the need to tell you guys because I have no friends in real life" threads.
While we're at it, we might as well make this a sticky.
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Just as long as you make a similar thread for the people who smooch their TF every night.
Ya feel me playa?
Oh and better subscribe to this thread if you're not already, once you start having issues you'll be back. I guarantee it.
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Just as long as you make a similar thread for the people who smooch their TF every night.
Ya feel me playa?
Oh and better subscribe to this thread if you're not already, once you start having issues you'll be back. I guarantee it.
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Haha. The smooching never would have started if it wasn't for all the complaining...
I've had my tf for about a month now and whether it's luck or just the norm, I haven't had any issues thus far.
Some may arise in the future but as of right now I am happy. But that's besides the point.
The issue here is that people are abusing xda. If you have issues with your deivce that aren't related to "hacking" then this is not the place to cry about. Either contact Asus support or deal with it. Xda has the greatest devs in the world, unfortunately not even they can help people who are incompetent.
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I think he meant this is the official I'm returning my TF it's such a piece of..... whether you want to hear me vent about it or not thread.
Don't like it take it back.
Asus might monitor the forums but not much they can do about you returning a retail product.
Wanna call them instead or send it to them? Go for it.
If you have a bad problem call them. File a class action suit ...I don't know...but I do know they are about the only ones that can really do anything about it....or not.
Haha. The smooching never would have started if it wasn't for all the complaining...
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Is this a bad joke? Those threads have been around way before any smooching started, I guarantee it. To think that smooching threads started as a counter to disapproval threads is laughable. The two are a constant on any forum for a device and nothing you say can argue otherwise.
The issue here is that people are abusing xda. If you have issues with your deivce that aren't related to "hacking" then this is not the place to cry about. Either contact Asus support or deal with it. Xda has the greatest devs in the world, unfortunately not even they can help people who are incompetent.
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Wrong, this is so patently absurd I can't even accept it at face value. Maybe you took a wrong turn, for the rest of us we went to the section that is clearly labeled:
Discussion about Asus Eee Pad Transformer (general chat, tips & tricks, Q&A, etc)
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Disapproval threads as well as smooching threads fall within this category. It's general discussion, not hacking. I can understand your argument if these threads were in the Development forum that's not the case though. If someone can't keep their rabid fanboy retaliation instincts out of it that's their problem. There are those who want to make threads and talk about how much they love their TF and there are those who want to make threads and talk about the problems they have with it.
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Is this a bad joke? Those threads have been around way before any smooching started, I guarantee it. To think that smooching threads started as a counter to disapproval threads is laughable. The two are a constant on any forum for a device and nothing you say can argue otherwise.
Wrong, this is so patently absurd I can't even accept it at face value. Maybe you took a wrong turn, for the rest of us we went to the section that is clearly labeled:
Disapproval threads as well as smooching threads fall within this category. It's general discussion, not hacking. I can understand your argument if these threads were in the Development forum that's not the case though. If someone can't keep their rabid fanboy retaliation instincts out of it that's their problem. There are those who want to make threads and talk about how much they love their TF and there are those who want to make threads and talk about the problems they have with it.
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You are correct about this being the general forum, I understand were you are coming from on that...
But you contradict yourself when you say that smooching is the same as complaining because you make it seem like smooching is more prevailent when it clearly is not. You can lookvat the first 5 pages of the general tf forum and the ratio of complaints to smooching is like 5 to 1. Once again, the complaints themselves aren't what people are having problems with, it's the flood of them and the continued spamming of the same damn threads. I have been on this forum since before the tf came out and smooching has never been an issue because those threads are few and in all reality are more of "reviews" than complaints or praises...
If you're trying to justify all of these stupid ass threads then you are ridiculous. Not much more to it than that.
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And I justified it by stating that this was a general forum. There's nothing ridiculous about that.
But you contradict yourself when you say that smooching is the same as complaining because you make it seem like smooching is more prevailent when it clearly is not. You can lookvat the first 5 pages of the general tf forum and the ratio of complaints to smooching is like 5 to 1.
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That's not the definition of contradiction.
The two are the same. Quantity is a different issue entirely and in this case why don't you stop and think about why there is such a large difference in that 5 to 1 ratio of yours. It's not because the ones who have a problem with it are drinking a different kool-aid than the ones who love the TF.
That "large difference" speaks volumes about the disapproval rate of the overall community. Asus needs to see that, informed customers need to see that. Any attempt at cutting that out is a biased, artificial attempt at engineering a facade not unlike North Korea. Asus and informed customers need to see that their TF can fall apart and what happens when it does and why people leave and how many leave.
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And I justified it by stating that this was a general forum. There's nothing ridiculous about that.
That's not the definition of contradiction.
The two are the same. Quantity is a different issue entirely and in this case why don't you stop and think about why there is such a large difference in that 5 to 1 ratio of yours. It's not because the ones who have a problem with it are drinking a different kool-aid than the ones who love the TF.
That "large difference" speaks volumes about the disapproval rate of the overall community. Asus needs to see that, informed customers need to see that. Any attempt at cutting that out is a biased, artificial attempt at engineering a facade not unlike North Korea. Asus and informed customers need to see that their TF can fall apart and what happens when it does and why people leave and how many leave.
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you have a 'thank you' from me purely for the moments entertainment i had realising that you are the most argumentative person ive found so far on XDA... bg round of applause for Tubular ...
You can't be serious...
The "large dissaproval" rate is due 100% to what these forums have become and human nature. when people are unsatisfied for whatever reason they feel the need to be heard. Unfortunately people in there real lives don't give a damn so they conlme to xda were they know they will get a reaction. People who are satisfied on the other hand don't feel the need to be heard because they are happy...
A better judge on the "community perspective " of the tf would be customer reviews on websites such as amazon, which last time I checked were very positive for the tf ...
Why are we even arguing over this? Spamming is spamming. Its against xda rules. Argue all you want, it doesn't make a difference. The ridiculous amount of threads being started on a daily basis complaining about the same thing has gotten to be too much.
I understand some people are not happy with their purchase, that's fine. Unfortunately me and the other thousands of members on xda don't give a **** and can't do anything about it....
Comprende?
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you have a 'thank you' from me purely for the moments entertainment i had realising that you are the most argumentative person ive found so far on XDA... bg round of applause for Tubular ...
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Yeah I guess I should just bend over and do what you say. Makes for a boring place with you as boss.
Spamming is spamming. Its against xda rules.
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But this isn't spam moron. Spamming involves the same person making multiple threads for the same exact subject. Like Chris making three threads about his inability to start the device. Or four bots making the same exact thread to sell their stupid herbal medicine.
This is not spam, but keep trying to morph this into whatever you want so you can justify your insecurity. It's hilarious. What is certain however is that this is general chat material and this is general chat.
I understand some people are not happy with their purchase, that's fine. Unfortunately me and the other thousands of members on xda don't give a **** and can't do anything about it....
Comprende?
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So they should just leave because you and a hundred people don't care? And the people who do care don't matter right? Can you even quantify how much that is? Once again, hilarious. You're not the beginning or the end of the world. I can understand that you don't give a ****, nobody gives a **** about you either and you're not the center of attention.
Try to get that through your head, for once at least. Just because you want to be the little angry man who stomps his foot and wants to corral all of the threads into a single monolithic post, doesn't mean you're the center of attention and everything revolves around you.
"Me me me, my device works fine so put all of the disapproval threads in one giant thread." You're disgusting. At least I advocate non-biased discussion on both sides, you don't even try to hide it.
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Yeah I guess I should just bend over and do what you say. Makes for a boring place with you as boss.
But this isn't spam moron. Spamming involves the same person making multiple threads for the same exact subject. Like Chris making three threads about his inability to start the device. Or four bots making the same exact thread to sell their stupid herbal medicine.
This is not spam, but keep trying to morph this into whatever you want so you can justify your insecurity. It's hilarious. What is certain however is that this is general chat material and this is general chat.
So they should just leave because you and a hundred people don't care? And the people who do care don't matter right? Can you even quantify how much that is? Once again, hilarious. You're not the beginning or the end of the world. I can understand that you don't give a ****, nobody gives a **** about you either and you're not the center of attention.
Try to get that through your head, for once at least. Just because you want to be the little angry man who stomps his foot and wants to corral all of the threads into a single monolithic post, doesn't mean you're the center of attention and everything revolves around you.
"Me me me, my device works fine so put all of the disapproval threads in one giant thread." You're disgusting. At least I advocate non-biased discussion on both sides, you don't even try to hide it.
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Ye Gods !
I really hope you are a troll because if you are you are doing it quite well.
If you arent ... sheesh ......
Someone has started a thread so that people can post all their complaints and ASUS can 'see them all together' yet still you complain .....
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Yeah I guess I should just bend over and do what you say. Makes for a boring place with you as boss.
But this isn't spam moron. Spamming involves the same person making multiple threads for the same exact subject. Like Chris making three threads about his inability to start the device. Or four bots making the same exact thread to sell their stupid herbal medicine.
This is not spam, but keep trying to morph this into whatever you want so you can justify your insecurity. It's hilarious. What is certain however is that this is general chat material and this is general chat.
So they should just leave because you and a hundred people don't care? And the people who do care don't matter right? Can you even quantify how much that is? Once again, hilarious. You're not the beginning or the end of the world. I can understand that you don't give a ****, nobody gives a **** about you either and you're not the center of attention.
Try to get that through your head, for once at least. Just because you want to be the little angry man who stomps his foot and wants to corral all of the threads into a single monolithic post, doesn't mean you're the center of attention and everything revolves around you.
"Me me me, my device works fine so put all of the disapproval threads in one giant thread." You're disgusting. At least I advocate non-biased discussion on both sides, you don't even try to hide it.
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Lmao!!!!!!! That was quite possibly THE most entertaining thread I have ever read. You are the definition of a class act. Don't worry, I'll be your friend.
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starplaya93 said:
You can't be serious...
The "large dissaproval" rate is due 100% to what these forums have become and human nature. when people are unsatisfied for whatever reason they feel the need to be heard. Unfortunately people in there real lives don't give a damn so they conlme to xda were they know they will get a reaction. People who are satisfied on the other hand don't feel the need to be heard because they are happy...
A better judge on the "community perspective " of the tf would be customer reviews on websites such as amazon, which last time I checked were very positive for the tf ...
Why are we even arguing over this? Spamming is spamming. Its against xda rules. Argue all you want, it doesn't make a difference. The ridiculous amount of threads being started on a daily basis complaining about the same thing has gotten to be too much.
I understand some people are not happy with their purchase, that's fine. Unfortunately me and the other thousands of members on xda don't give a **** and can't do anything about it....
Comprende?
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and yet you seem to feel the need to comment. i take back my earlier comparison. xda is obviously just as full of fanboys as archosfans.
btw i love my tf, have very little problem, but its not perfect and obviously asus has some qc issues. nothing compared to archos, but still unarguable.
i find threads detailing issues and comparisons very useful and tend to have more objective information than the "share your love" topics with the "ooohhhh its so fast" commennts. issue threads and devicce comparison reviews are a buyers tools.
"if you dont like your tf take it back".... agreed, also feel free to share your experience.
"if you dont like these threads... dont read them!"
Wow. This thread clearly failed, lol.
At least it was entertaining. Thanks guys
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Someone has started a thread so that people can post all their complaints and ASUS can 'see them all together' yet still you complain .....
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Yeah, if only that was the intent. But feel free to dust off your reading skills and take a gander at the first post.
I really hope you are a troll because if you are you are doing it quite well.
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Why don't you put down the rabid fanboy / troll playbook for once?
I understand, this is the first time you've actually had to argue against someone who has a different opinion and it's upsetting you.
Lmao!!!!!!! That was quite possibly THE most entertaining thread I have ever read. You are the definition of a class act. Don't worry, I'll be your friend.
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Blah blah blah lol lol lol lmao lmao, you're saying you give up? Well when you've had such a crappy argument to begin with you really should have given up earlier.
Ya feel me playa? Let's be real. By the way your thread isn't turning out too well. Maybe next time you should actually make a thread instead of a flamepit to throw yourself and draw the neighborhood fanboy into.
According to plan? Thanks for the laugh.
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Yeah, if only that was the intent. But feel free to dust off your reading skills and take a gander at the first post.
Why don't you put down the rabid fanboy / troll playbook for once?
I understand, this is the first time you've actually had to argue against someone who has a different opinion and it's upsetting you.
Blah blah blah lol lol lol lmao lmao, you're saying you give up? Well when you've had such a crappy argument to begin with you really should have given up earlier.
Ya feel me playa? Let's be real. By the way your thread isn't turning out too well. Maybe next time you should actually make a thread instead of a flamepit to throw yourself and draw the neighborhood fanboy into.
According to plan? Thanks for the laugh.
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When people read this thread they will look at your post and rrealize how big of a jackass you are. I don't feel the need to get into heated arguments over the internet with people like you.
Take a step back from the internet and get yourself a breather buddy. Try talking to some people in real life and interacting with others that you can physically see. The road your headed on can't be too healthy.
also try not to become the notorious troll on these forums. We're the only pals you've got man. Take it easy
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Couldn't believe it but it seems true. The transformer HAS china quality.
The German forums are also full of critics, mostly centered around the display and dust.
http://translate.google.de/translat...sfehler-staubkoernchen-unter-dem-display.html
LMAO this is hilarious. Hey StarPlaya, if I need to take a breather you need to take one too buddy. You've been here with me every step of the way, don't kid yourself. If you think I'm pathetic you're equally pathetic. Way to shoot yourself in the foot there genius. I'll expect your next reply within five minutes, playa.
Somehow I'm pathetic but you're not when you've matched me post for post with the weakest arguments. That's because you're the ultimate playa, it says so in your name. Actually, what are you doing with a TF? Are you sure you're not supposed to be holding a bong and a 40 oz. instead? LMAO
When people read this thread they will look at your post and rrealize how big of a jackass you are. I don't feel the need to get into heated arguments over the internet with people like you.
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Get the anger out now, rage some more. You're the jackass here with your flamepit and attempts to tell people what to do and with a sarcastic opening too. "Let's put all of the *****ing and moaning in one spot", you ***** and moan enough for the whole community. Glad to know I'm getting under your skin though.
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Couldn't believe it but it seems true. The transformer HAS china quality.
The German forums are also full of critics, mostly centered around the display and dust.
http://translate.google.de/translat...sfehler-staubkoernchen-unter-dem-display.html
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i dont think anyone is debating that there are issues with the TF. What i think is important is that if you google 'xoom dust under screen' or 'ipad 2 dust under screen' or 'samsung tab 10.1 dust under screen' ... or the same with light bleed ..... you will find that every manufacturer has similar issues. i dont think its unique to the TF.
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LMAO this is hilarious. Hey StarPlaya, if I need to take a breather you need to take one too buddy. You've been here with me every step of the way, don't kid yourself. If you think I'm pathetic you're equally pathetic. Way to shoot yourself in the foot there genius. I'll expect your next reply within five minutes, playa.
Somehow I'm pathetic but you're not when you've matched me post for post with the weakest arguments. That's because you're the ultimate playa, it says so in your name. Actually, what are you doing with a TF? Are you sure you're not supposed to be holding a bong and a 40 oz. instead? LMAO
Get the anger out now, rage some more. You're the jackass here with your flamepit and attempts to tell people what to do and with a sarcastic opening too. "Let's put all of the *****ing and moaning in one spot", you ***** and moan enough for the whole community. Glad to know I'm getting under your skin though.
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You're seriously getting a kick out of personally attacking somebody you don't even know?
You actually got so much under my skin that I'm goin to go cut myself now.
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Polls here show that the vast majority of owners do not find the Note faulty. However, there are threads here which seem in denial of these polls and are still claiming that the Note is faulty. Thank goodness for the polls so that we know that these faulty claims are not supported by the vast majority of owners.
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Polls here show that the vast majority of owners do not find the Note faulty. However, there are threads here which seem in denial of these polls and are still claiming that the Note is faulty. Thank goodness for the polls so that we know that these faulty claims are not supported by the vast majority of owners.
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Lol. Are you referring to my poll? thanks B-)
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So you really had to make a new thread for this?
"So what you are saying that those who had issues with the notes and had it replaced are making it up ?"
Of course not. All I am saying is that the evidence from polls here does not support the claims that all Notes are faulty.
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So you really had to make a new thread for this?
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Yes, because when there are threads claiming that all Notes are faulty then it is only fair to the Note to point out that polls here suggest otherwise.
Can you link us to the claims that all the notes are faulty, im wondering my self.
I dont see how that poll can change the fact that i got 3 notes in the row, all with 2+ dead pixels
10% faulty rate from that poll is not high?
Plus, how accurate do you think a simple poll can show? I mean, instead of voting 3 times for my 3 faulty phones...i can only vote once!!
My believe is...if you are lucky enoug to get a perfect phone...please be kinder to us unlucky ones who REALLY had a stressful times with this problem, and stop starting new threads like this to try and make us feel worse. Please try and put yourselves in our shoes
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Can you link us to the claims that all the notes are faulty, im wondering my self.
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There are many ways of claiming something is faulty without saying it explicitly such as thread titles like "WI-FI Issues", "Screen Issues" etc which are easily spotted.
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There are many ways of claiming something is faulty without saying it explicitly such as thread titles like "WI-FI Issues", "Screen Issues" etc which are easily spotted.
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With all my 3 phones, i have posted pictures on this forum and also sent them to handtec...
So...im not too sure how more specific you want? Maybe send all three of my phones to you to have a look before i send them back to handtec?
Come on...have we all lost the simple human quality of TRUST in this society now?!!
You have a point. People post gripes. Going by that alone, it would discourage anyone. The polls give a better picture.
You also might want to post a "Who has a fault free Note" thread.
That way you get details
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That way you get details
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I still dont get what you mean by details....a dead pixel is a dead pixel....what more details do you need? If its good and detailed enough for handte to do the replacements...how much more do you need?
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I still dont get what you mean by details....a dead pixel is a dead pixel....what more details do you need? If its good and detailed enough for handte to do the replacements...how much more do you need?
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You have a point. we should have a poll for this!
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You have a point. we should have a poll for this!
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Lol...if you really have that much spare time and passion for it, by all means...
I really cant be bothered to get into all these again, im just trying to move on now...
I saw a ton of reviews and everyone loved their units. I came to the forum and I saw tons of complaints. I didn't think it was right. I started the poll to see of everyone hated their device.
You guys might be getting all the duds from a single batch from a single seller or single batch directly from Samsung. I feel and see now that most people don't have any issues which is the most logical thing. But this forum only had negative posts.
I think the poll helped me decide to buy the phone. while all the other threads discouraged me from it. That's not normal. So I took the plunge.
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I saw a ton of reviews and everyone loved their units. I came to the forum and I saw tons of complaints. I didn't think it was right. I started the poll to see of everyone hated their device.
You guys might be getting all the duds from a single batch from a single seller or single batch directly from Samsung. I feel and see now that most people don't have any issues which is the most logical thing. But this forum only had negative posts.
I think the poll helped me decide to buy the phone. while all the other threads discouraged me from it. That's not normal. So I took the plunge.
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Thanks to your poll we know the vast majority of owners are not experiencing the faults suggested by the loads of complaints on this forum. It won't stop loads more complaints but at least owners and prospective buyers now know that the complaints do not represent the experience of the vast majority of owners.
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Forums generally attract people who are looking for solutions to problems they are experiencing. That is why you see a higher number of complaints. Arguing with people who have had issues is extremely counterproductive and only leads to contention. Ignore the poster who don't post according to your own desires.
Hello,
first of all I'm sorry If you have seen a thread like this before but I want to try and take a different approach.
I wanted to buy this phone but I read countless posts reporting they have hairline scratches without even dropping their phone.
There was even one or two that got them even though their phone was in a case!
Also:
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/2...-idea-since-the-last-phone-with-a-glass-back/
It kind of really seems to be an issue...
What I wanted to ask did anyone try to deliberately reproduce this? Or can anyone prove that this really happens?
I mean if the phone breaks with regular use without even dropping it it would be one hell of a dealbreaker...
Any rich guy/reviewer wants to run a few benchmarks/games and put it on a cold surface in a room and see what happens?
And please refrain from comparing to iPhone 4/4s I think people have seen enough droptests it would be really interesting to see if this actually happens or not...
1. why would someone try to reproduce it until it's a demo unit given to them by Google which I guess will be a rarity considering they are on back order
2. it happened to my friend and as of now he is waiting for the replacements back to arrive on fleebay
3. you posted in the wrong section
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1. why would someone try to reproduce it until it's a demo unit given to them by Google which I guess will be a rarity considering they are on back order
2. it happened to my friend and as of now he is waiting for the replacements back to arrive on fleebay
3. you posted in the wrong section
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Wow simple to the point. I like it
it wouldnt be a temperature shift from cold to hot, it would be from getting too hot and expanding when the glass was put in too tightly
I hit my Nexus 4 with a hammer and the screen broke. LG better fix it as this is a defect.
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1. why would someone try to reproduce it until it's a demo unit given to them by Google which I guess will be a rarity considering they are on back order
2. it happened to my friend and as of now he is waiting for the replacements back to arrive on fleebay
3. you posted in the wrong section
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Sorry I don't post very often so I'm not so familiar to the sections, if a moderator reads it please move it.
As to your questions maybe you didn't read my post or are simply uninformed. There were already enough Droptests, there are already people who have a defect phone some of them deemed unreparable. Also a lot of people got a review units. Heck there is even a guy on youtube who buys devices with his own money and breaks them in durability tests. If you question why people would do it don't ask me but I reckon someone who would do a droptest or whack their phone with a sledgehammer might be willing to try this.
Sorry for being so dumb to think people who deliberately destroy a phone would maybe be willing to deliberatly get a hairline crack.
Long story short there are plenty of people who could try it out.
meh nvm why are ppl always so offensive...
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Sorry I don't post very often so I'm not so familiar to the sections, if a moderator reads it please move it.
As to your questions maybe you didn't read my post or are simply uninformed. There were already enough Droptests, there are already people who have a defect phone some of them deemed unreparable. Also a lot of people got a review units. Heck there is even a guy on youtube who buys devices with his own money and breaks them in durability tests. If you question why people would do it don't ask me but I reckon someone who would do a droptest or whack their phone with a sledgehammer might be willing to try this.
Sorry for being so dumb to think people who deliberately destroy a phone would maybe be willing to deliberatly get a hairline crack.
Long story short there are plenty of people who could try it out.
meh nvm why are ppl always so offensive...
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drop tests are easy to do, recreating something like this won't be easy at all dude and not sure if someone on xda will risk his device like that as the replacement backs are not yet available anywhere. also there is enough proof already that this happens and has happened to a lot of peoplel. so it happens but no one knows why.
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drop tests are easy to do, recreating something like this won't be easy at all dude and not sure if someone on xda will risk his device like that as the replacement backs are not yet available anywhere. also there is enough proof already that this happens and has happened to a lot of peoplel. so it happens but no one knows why.
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okay thanks^^
guessed ppl with an already shattered back could maybe try it or whatever
increases the screen brightness even at the lowest setting...... when it updated and reset to auto brightness (at the higher level compared to 4.3).. the terrible backlight bleed round the edge of my display was visible... I hadn't noticed it before... this is the only bad thing about 4.4.2 haha..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2605008
Yes, that's true. It doesn't bother me much though
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Worth a thread? Gosh ppl are going crazy...
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Worth a thread? Gosh ppl are going crazy...
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I don't know, but it was clearly worthy a reply, huh creamy?
this is the general section btw...
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I don't know, but it was clearly worthy a reply, huh creamy?
this is the general section btw...
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You're missing the point. Here I'll help you...
Yes the post was valid & even quite useful - so well done you
Unfortunately...
There's already threads about it,if you had posted there, it would save cluttering up the forum with duplicate posts.
Cause yanno some of us actually don't relish going through posts trying to find the information we need and having to carve through a ton of needless crap to find it.
Maybe next time you fancy making a post, you'd be so good as to see if the thread already exists, and if so, then post on that?
Get it now ?
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You're missing the point. Here I'll help you...
Yes the post was valid & even quite useful - so well done you
Unfortunately...
There's already threads about it,if you had posted there, it would save cluttering up the forum with duplicate posts.
Cause yanno some of us actually don't relish going through posts trying to find the information we need and having to carve through a ton of needless crap to find it.
Maybe next time you fancy making a post, you'd be so good as to see if the thread already exists, and if so, then post on that?
Get it now ?
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I guess I will never get it...
The Euro OTA thread for example has 100s of replies talking about many different iterations of the OTA update. I posted a specific to UK Retail OTA. I would argue that well titled, specific threads is the real answer. This will allow people to search effectively for what they want.
Anyone who has spent a large amount of time using the search facility on forums, knows the 'post' search within threads never works well. However the title search for threads works great.
It is definitely a bigger problem when people waste peoples time 'complaining' about non issues without really thinking them through.
When there are truly pointless or duplicate threads I totally agree and I've been guilty of this myself at times. I found the thread in the Q&A Section but it was talking about a different part of the audio problem so a new thread was valid. However, as I say, rather than arguing for the sake of it, posting p**sy remarks to people, why not try to find solutions for people who post questions?
I love XDA because it's not one of these forums where people scream 'noobs noobs.. use search,.. do you know nothing?' 'if you have to ask that, then xda and modding isn't for you' etc etc etc. Your attitudes is the beginning of a slippery slope toward this, so I hope it doesn't happen.
I hope you take my comments in good humour and 'get' my point.
thanks
Just use a screen filter app to reduce overal brightness by a percentage of your choice
OP, can you explain clearly what you think has changed between 4.3 to 4.4.2 on the moto G with regard to brightness? I am interested, but I do not understand in what mode you think it is brighter. Are you saying that in auto mode you think it is overall brighter? Are you saying that in manual mode when at the most left position on the slider in kitkat it is brighter than it was when at most left position on version 4.3? I cannot detect a difference. How did you measure this...purely on your perception?
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OP, can you explain clearly what you think has changed between 4.3 to 4.4.2 on the moto G with regard to brightness? I am interested, but I do not understand in what mode you think it is brighter. Are you saying that in auto mode you think it is overall brighter? Are you saying that in manual mode when at the most left position on the slider in kitkat it is brighter than it was when at most left position on version 4.3? I cannot detect a difference. How did you measure this...purely on your perception?
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In the interest of saving battery, I pretty much always have it on manual, set to minimum. If im in bad lighting or in the car, I set it to auto.
So, I had it set to minimum on manual under 4.3. At this level there was almost no perceivable backlight bleed when the screen was showing a black/dark screen (such as settings menu). I had never noted a problem as such with backlight bleed on this phone really.
I updated to 4.4.2. It was set to Auto brightness when it booted for first time. Back light bleed was striking and clearly a lot worse. I set brightness to manual, minimum. Backlight bleed was still very noticeable at the corners and at one edge of screen.
It's slightly subjective, but I'm in no doubt that 'minimum manual brightness' is not as low under 4.4.2 as it was under 4.3. I 'assume' that auto brightness doesn't go as low either, because:
If you are in a pitch dark room, and you change from minimum manual bright, to auto, the screen gets brighter, not the same or darker under 4.4.2..
I was searching other peoples findings and the link someone posted earlier in this thread shows the same thing more empirically..
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I guess I will never get it...
The Euro OTA thread for example has 100s of replies talking about many different iterations of the OTA update. I posted a specific to UK Retail OTA. I would argue that well titled, specific threads is the real answer. This will allow people to search effectively for what they want.
Anyone who has spent a large amount of time using the search facility on forums, knows the 'post' search within threads never works well. However the title search for threads works great.
It is definitely a bigger problem when people waste peoples time 'complaining' about non issues without really thinking them through.
When there are truly pointless or duplicate threads I totally agree and I've been guilty of this myself at times. I found the thread in the Q&A Section but it was talking about a different part of the audio problem so a new thread was valid. However, as I say, rather than arguing for the sake of it, posting p**sy remarks to people, why not try to find solutions for people who post questions?
I love XDA because it's not one of these forums where people scream 'noobs noobs.. use search,.. do you know nothing?' 'if you have to ask that, then xda and modding isn't for you' etc etc etc. Your attitudes is the beginning of a slippery slope toward this, so I hope it doesn't happen.
I hope you take my comments in good humour and 'get' my point.
thanks
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I think the issue is that the moto g forums have a lot of LAZY noobs. Being a noob is fine as long as people search before asking questions or making new threads. Everyone starts somewhere.
At the moment the LAZY people really are cluttering up the forums and threads. Look at how many posted just say they did NOT yet have the UK OTA. Complete waste of time and this is what is annoying the people who are trying to answer questions.
Being technically unaware is fine. Just being LAZY is not.
This is not directed at you, just trying to explain why people may be getting a bit annoyed.
Just get Lux. Problem solved.
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actually in my moto g auto brightness is very low, if i install lux and put in auto modo i can see the the dusplay is brighter, do this happen to anybody else?
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ive also installed a backlid test and at 100% brightness theres no bleed at all, it looks pretty much darker, could be a problem of mine?
My moto g has 2% in minimal bright by Installing Xposed + gravitybox
Yes it's true