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Moaners Thread

I think we should have a thread for people who want to moan about their HD2. Many threads are started by ones who are happy with their devices and do not have the issues that some are having, and want to express that they are happy with their phones, these threads are quickly hijacked by ones who are not happy and it quickly becomes an iphone v HD2. No phone is perfect and by far the majority are happy with their phones and they want to say that, so let them. I have had issues with my phone which was mainly cured with a ROM upgrade. It still have a problem, but hey as I said no phone is perfect. if you want Android on you phone why buy HD2 and then complain. If you want Win 7 why not wait.
A thread for the moaners would separate the positive from the negative.

In the same vein, perhaps a dedicated thread for those members who have more than a platonic relationship with their HD2's should be created
EDIT: found it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=638257

Schooleydoo said:
In the same vein, perhaps a dedicated thread for those members who have more than a platonic relationship with their HD2's should be created
EDIT: found it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=638257
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As I said it starts off positive but gets hijacked, follow it through and you will see.

That's just the nature of trolls mate. You can't create a thread to keep trolls in. They ignore things like that and flock around threads that are positive, with their negative and usually make-believe comments.
It was suggested a while ago that we have a complaints sub-forum, but that was never gonna happen.
It's the nature of trolls mate. You just gotta live with it. Nice idea though.

johncmolyneux said:
That's just the nature of trolls mate. You can't create a thread to keep trolls in. They ignore things like that and flock around threads that are positive, with their negative and usually make-believe comments.
It was suggested a while ago that we have a complaints sub-forum, but that was never gonna happen.
It's the nature of trolls mate. You just gotta live with it. Nice idea though.
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I tend to agree.

Shock horror!

I am very pleased with my nexus S. I am keeping it for a looong time. I do not have any particular moans. I am happy

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I know well its pointless its more a response to the veritable plethora of negative, nexus bashing, dreary and pointless "I want rid of, dislike, unhappy with.....blah blah" posts that crop up at regular intervals. Plus its an open topic for the few happy nexus S owners to celebrate their boundless joy at their purchase

willcpfc said:
I know well its pointless its more a response to the veritable plethora of negative, nexus bashing, dreary and pointless "I want rid of, dislike, unhappy with.....blah blah" posts that crop up at regular intervals. Plus its an open topic for the few happy nexus S owners to celebrate their boundless joy at their purchase
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Well, then perhaps you should rename it more appropriately. The current topic is a bit misleading.
Aren't there already "I love my Nexus S" threads anyways...?

yes, but then it will lose its effect
no one is going to read a topic tittle "my Nexus S is working!" "I love my Nexus S" or something along the line
LOL

distortedloop said:
Well, then perhaps you should rename it more appropriately. The current topic is a bit misleading.
Aren't there already "I love my Nexus S" threads anyways...?
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I cast my eye on the first page of the "general" forum. Approximately 40% are dreary, negative topics that this is an indirect response to. As for nexus loving posts....they are well buried.

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"dreary and pointless "I want rid of, dislike, unhappy with.....blah blah""
Do you not think that's a little insulting to customers who have jsut forked out £429 for a phone that does not make calls properly?
Please refrain from being an idiot, unfounded moans are exactly that, but do not dumb down perfectly rightful and sane concerns regarding trading standards of BIG companies!
I do agree, it's a lovely device though

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"dreary and pointless "I want rid of, dislike, unhappy with.....blah blah""
Do you not think that's a little insulting to customers who have jsut forked out £429 for a phone that does not make calls properly?
Please refrain from being an idiot, unfounded moans are exactly that, but do not dumb down perfectly rightful and sane concerns regarding trading standards of BIG companies!
I do agree, it's a lovely device though
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Please refrain from labelling me an idiot as I have an IQ above 25
I have never had a single issue with my nexus, except self inflicted custom rom problems, and if I did have a major problem I would take it up with my phone supplier and not bore the pants off you lot on here with it. I merely make the point that there is a large amount of posts that in one way or another, ooze negativity and this is my counterbalance, because if a curious non nexus owner read these forums they would get the impression that Nexus S is a flawed and dodgy device. The XDA powers that be should consider opening another section for Nexus S "General complaints and moans". I think it would be the most popular forum and I could avoid it.

willcpfc said:
I am very pleased with my nexus S. I am keeping it for a looong time. I do not have any particular moans. I am happy
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Dude you rock. You're getting a thanks for this thread when I get to my comp. Also, Americans need to start using the phrase shock horror.
Overall great thread. My wife and I both love our nexus s'. I owned an epic for months and that was a horrible device. Ay least with the nexus s Google is working on fixing the problems. People just need to either sell the phone their unhappy with or shut the hell up. Last i checked this wasn't xda-whingers.com it was xda-developers.com
Sent from my SubCyan CM7 Google Nexus S!

jamiemac1977 said:
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"dreary and pointless "I want rid of, dislike, unhappy with.....blah blah""
Do you not think that's a little insulting to customers who have jsut forked out £429 for a phone that does not make calls properly?
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Then why don't they just return the phone, get their money back, and buy something they are happy with?
Instead they seem to use the ownership of a "defective" item as a license to ***** and moan like it's December 21st, 2012.
-Make a purchase we're not happy with: we all do that.
-Return it, or sell it on eBay: signs of intelligence.
-Keep it, and complain bitterly about it: now that's just stupid.

kenvan19 said:
Dude you rock. You're getting a thanks for this thread when I get to my comp. Also, Americans need to start using the phrase shock horror.
Sent from my SubCyan CM7 Google Nexus S!
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I actually regret this thread. It was due to depression/despondency reading about all the unhappiness generated about Nexus S. I am fine now and have personal inner peace about Nexus S. My one hope is that those few who love their nexus feel able to say so openly on this thread

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I actually regret this thread. It was due to depression/despondency reading about all the unhappiness generated about Nexus S. I am fine now and have personal inner peace about Nexus S. My one hope is that those few who love their nexus feel able to say so openly on this thread
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I have been feeling the same way lately. Every other thread is "waah my phone won't do this" or "Rawr I'm so angry that my phone does that". Its silly. If you're not happy about something chatting on the internet won't fix that. Either just shut the hell up about the issues your having because they will get fixed or sell it and get the hell out of here.

In answer to the above, is that i hope and pray that google sort the issues out and i get to keep this lovely device?
And i apologise to the guy above (willcpfc), not for sure saying "you were an idiot" ...more trying to stop you going down a path where you don't consider perfectly rightful concers as warranted.
I will take this back, if they do not sort it within the 30 day no quibble thing. If they iron out the bugs i have then i can keep this sweet lil number ...i do want this thing or i would not have walked into carphone warehouse and spend £429 right?
Was just trying to say, be carfeul calling complainers unfounded, especially when they have warranted concerns
much <3 to all
is it really that hard to consider the fustrations of people who want this thing, but cannto makes calls on it without fault? surely not right?

kenvan19 said:
I have been feeling the same way lately. Every other thread is "waah my phone won't do this" or "Rawr I'm so angry that my phone does that". Its silly. If you're not happy about something chatting on the internet won't fix that. Either just shut the hell up about the issues your having because they will get fixed or sell it and get the hell out of here.
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If we are happy that's all that matters. I look at my sleek, black, overclocked, cyanogen running, voodoo enabled machine and feel good

jamiemac1977 said:
is it really that hard to consider the fustrations of people who want this thing, but cannto makes calls on it without fault? surely not right?
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My point is that if you really want you bugs fixed, this is not the place. Google doesn't troll XDA for bugs it needs to work out, it has its own system in place that actually is pretty nice. All of the bugs I've heard of are on Google's bug reporting forum and if you have the issue go star it and comment. That's how you get the problem fixed not just constantly whinging on a developers forum.

Jamiemac1977, I admit it was wrong of me to launch an oblique attack on posters who I am sure have legitimate grievances. It is not my place to criticize. I just want a bit of happy shiny nexus owners to celebrate

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If we are happy that's all that matters. I look at my sleek, black, overclocked, cyanogen running, voodoo enabled machine and feel good
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I am happy as well. =) The only thing that could make my Nexus S better is getting a higher stable overclock =D (come on, 1.8GHz!)

willcpfc said:
Jamiemac1977, I admit it was wrong of me to launch an oblique attack on posters who I am sure have legitimate grievances. It is not my place to criticize. I just want a bit of happy shiny nexus owners to celebrate
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Thanks for that, feeling is mutual, i should not rise ot the bait, pretty sure we all want a lovely sleek SNS in our pockets eh.
First time i've had an issue with a device and wanted to keep it, so that says something eh ...looking forward to a happy phone

holy smokes! that's like close to 2Ghz
it'll be nice if it didn't consume so much battery power and be able to maintain those higher clock rates

That's better. Some good, positive responses. we have some great and dedicated devs. We have the latest android. Its a good looking machine. I am sure it will grow and flourish like a flower in summer. We will see great things and be able to complete with dual core competition. Its a Google, its magnificent and we are privileged to possess one. And oneday I may even find a use for the "tag" feature!

I decided to tell Motorola the truth

I Have been talking with moto reps and people all week, and also a few friends with moto to solve some of our problems *fingers crossed* but i Know that personally i am at a cross roads with the device and i wont even have it till tomorrow lol so i decided to write in to Moto here https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/45249?tstart=0
as well as applied to every development program and testing thing they had, if you are like me and will more than likely return the device no matter how nice it is if we or they dont come up with a solution before the 30 day return period i encourage you to do the same. I do ask though you appeal to a pleasant tone and leave the brute force method for the dev attempt to fix the problem

I think this is a good step, but I don't believe motorola will listen to people on their forums. When they decided to use signed/encrypted bootloaders, they were no doubt aware that some people would get angry and complain. That post was expected and as such probably won't make too many waves.

What if it wasn't just a single post? What if we got as many members as possible to post on Motorolas forum with their thoughts on the signed bootloaders? Good or bad idea?

Korntoff said:
What if it wasn't just a single post? What if we got as many members as possible to post on Motorolas forum with their thoughts on the signed bootloaders? Good or bad idea?
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well thats my idea... also i am speaking with my wallet as well, i have a total of 4 Atrix's for my self and family/friends tomorrow they will all return if i return more people need to do the same ... if they sell 2 million first month an return 1 million the second month they will listen

Campaign against Motorola, I say?

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Campaign against Motorola, I say?
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sort of... basically my number in last post are hugely glorified truth is they are right that people that care about bootloader are minority compared to over all sales that being said they wont notice if simply didn't purchase there device, would it hurt them yes, but over all they prob dont need us to survive, but how ever if we were to purchase than return they would have to take notice as to why 15% of pre ordered devices got returned with in the 30 day period

High level techs are a minority.
Also awaiting a response from Motoguy on the forum there. Wish you would have posted the original comment so we wouldnt have to wait for this guys return and comments.

sdlopez83 said:
High level techs are a minority.
Also awaiting a response from Motoguy on the forum there. Wish you would have posted the original comment so we wouldnt have to wait for this guys return and comments.
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??? you can comment as can they at any time

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High level techs are a minority.
Also awaiting a response from Motoguy on the forum there. Wish you would have posted the original comment so we wouldnt have to wait for this guys return and comments.
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Most of the people who will be buying this phone ARE high level tech people.
I don't see my mother or father getting it....

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??? you can comment as can they at any time
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As I am sure you can, I don't really care about anyones comment besides that of the Motorola's forum manager Mark. I am awaiting for his answer pertaining to the question;--Will Moto be true to its secondary statement regarding its real stance on the bootloader issue.
clubtech said:
Most of the people who will be buying this phone ARE high level tech people.
I don't see my mother or father getting it....
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Um, if that is the case Motorola is marketing to a small amount of people.You also have to consider that when I say high level techs i'm talking about those that frequent a forum such as this and others. There are not many of us compared to the general consumer population. Hence forth you get the statement where if you are looking to mod you should look elsewhere. You have to realize that we (the high level techs) represent a small fragment of the general public.

ASUS complaint forums

Rather than continuously spamming our forums with all of your complaints I created this thread for you guys. Should you feel the need to *****, cry, moan, nag, nitpick or anything else similar please post here.
It's better to have one unproductive thread with a bunch of unproductive posts rather than a flood of "I'm returning my tf and feel the need to tell you guys because I have no friends in real life" threads.
While we're at it, we might as well make this a sticky.
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Just as long as you make a similar thread for the people who smooch their TF every night.
Ya feel me playa?
Oh and better subscribe to this thread if you're not already, once you start having issues you'll be back. I guarantee it.

Tubular said:
Just as long as you make a similar thread for the people who smooch their TF every night.
Ya feel me playa?
Oh and better subscribe to this thread if you're not already, once you start having issues you'll be back. I guarantee it.
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Haha. The smooching never would have started if it wasn't for all the complaining...
I've had my tf for about a month now and whether it's luck or just the norm, I haven't had any issues thus far.
Some may arise in the future but as of right now I am happy. But that's besides the point.
The issue here is that people are abusing xda. If you have issues with your deivce that aren't related to "hacking" then this is not the place to cry about. Either contact Asus support or deal with it. Xda has the greatest devs in the world, unfortunately not even they can help people who are incompetent.
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I think he meant this is the official I'm returning my TF it's such a piece of..... whether you want to hear me vent about it or not thread.
Don't like it take it back.
Asus might monitor the forums but not much they can do about you returning a retail product.
Wanna call them instead or send it to them? Go for it.
If you have a bad problem call them. File a class action suit ...I don't know...but I do know they are about the only ones that can really do anything about it....or not.

Haha. The smooching never would have started if it wasn't for all the complaining...
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Is this a bad joke? Those threads have been around way before any smooching started, I guarantee it. To think that smooching threads started as a counter to disapproval threads is laughable. The two are a constant on any forum for a device and nothing you say can argue otherwise.
The issue here is that people are abusing xda. If you have issues with your deivce that aren't related to "hacking" then this is not the place to cry about. Either contact Asus support or deal with it. Xda has the greatest devs in the world, unfortunately not even they can help people who are incompetent.
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Wrong, this is so patently absurd I can't even accept it at face value. Maybe you took a wrong turn, for the rest of us we went to the section that is clearly labeled:
Discussion about Asus Eee Pad Transformer (general chat, tips & tricks, Q&A, etc)
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Disapproval threads as well as smooching threads fall within this category. It's general discussion, not hacking. I can understand your argument if these threads were in the Development forum that's not the case though. If someone can't keep their rabid fanboy retaliation instincts out of it that's their problem. There are those who want to make threads and talk about how much they love their TF and there are those who want to make threads and talk about the problems they have with it.

Tubular said:
Is this a bad joke? Those threads have been around way before any smooching started, I guarantee it. To think that smooching threads started as a counter to disapproval threads is laughable. The two are a constant on any forum for a device and nothing you say can argue otherwise.
Wrong, this is so patently absurd I can't even accept it at face value. Maybe you took a wrong turn, for the rest of us we went to the section that is clearly labeled:
Disapproval threads as well as smooching threads fall within this category. It's general discussion, not hacking. I can understand your argument if these threads were in the Development forum that's not the case though. If someone can't keep their rabid fanboy retaliation instincts out of it that's their problem. There are those who want to make threads and talk about how much they love their TF and there are those who want to make threads and talk about the problems they have with it.
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You are correct about this being the general forum, I understand were you are coming from on that...
But you contradict yourself when you say that smooching is the same as complaining because you make it seem like smooching is more prevailent when it clearly is not. You can lookvat the first 5 pages of the general tf forum and the ratio of complaints to smooching is like 5 to 1. Once again, the complaints themselves aren't what people are having problems with, it's the flood of them and the continued spamming of the same damn threads. I have been on this forum since before the tf came out and smooching has never been an issue because those threads are few and in all reality are more of "reviews" than complaints or praises...
If you're trying to justify all of these stupid ass threads then you are ridiculous. Not much more to it than that.
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And I justified it by stating that this was a general forum. There's nothing ridiculous about that.
But you contradict yourself when you say that smooching is the same as complaining because you make it seem like smooching is more prevailent when it clearly is not. You can lookvat the first 5 pages of the general tf forum and the ratio of complaints to smooching is like 5 to 1.
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That's not the definition of contradiction.
The two are the same. Quantity is a different issue entirely and in this case why don't you stop and think about why there is such a large difference in that 5 to 1 ratio of yours. It's not because the ones who have a problem with it are drinking a different kool-aid than the ones who love the TF.
That "large difference" speaks volumes about the disapproval rate of the overall community. Asus needs to see that, informed customers need to see that. Any attempt at cutting that out is a biased, artificial attempt at engineering a facade not unlike North Korea. Asus and informed customers need to see that their TF can fall apart and what happens when it does and why people leave and how many leave.

Tubular said:
And I justified it by stating that this was a general forum. There's nothing ridiculous about that.
That's not the definition of contradiction.
The two are the same. Quantity is a different issue entirely and in this case why don't you stop and think about why there is such a large difference in that 5 to 1 ratio of yours. It's not because the ones who have a problem with it are drinking a different kool-aid than the ones who love the TF.
That "large difference" speaks volumes about the disapproval rate of the overall community. Asus needs to see that, informed customers need to see that. Any attempt at cutting that out is a biased, artificial attempt at engineering a facade not unlike North Korea. Asus and informed customers need to see that their TF can fall apart and what happens when it does and why people leave and how many leave.
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you have a 'thank you' from me purely for the moments entertainment i had realising that you are the most argumentative person ive found so far on XDA... bg round of applause for Tubular ...

You can't be serious...
The "large dissaproval" rate is due 100% to what these forums have become and human nature. when people are unsatisfied for whatever reason they feel the need to be heard. Unfortunately people in there real lives don't give a damn so they conlme to xda were they know they will get a reaction. People who are satisfied on the other hand don't feel the need to be heard because they are happy...
A better judge on the "community perspective " of the tf would be customer reviews on websites such as amazon, which last time I checked were very positive for the tf ...
Why are we even arguing over this? Spamming is spamming. Its against xda rules. Argue all you want, it doesn't make a difference. The ridiculous amount of threads being started on a daily basis complaining about the same thing has gotten to be too much.
I understand some people are not happy with their purchase, that's fine. Unfortunately me and the other thousands of members on xda don't give a **** and can't do anything about it....
Comprende?
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you have a 'thank you' from me purely for the moments entertainment i had realising that you are the most argumentative person ive found so far on XDA... bg round of applause for Tubular ...
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Yeah I guess I should just bend over and do what you say. Makes for a boring place with you as boss.
Spamming is spamming. Its against xda rules.
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But this isn't spam moron. Spamming involves the same person making multiple threads for the same exact subject. Like Chris making three threads about his inability to start the device. Or four bots making the same exact thread to sell their stupid herbal medicine.
This is not spam, but keep trying to morph this into whatever you want so you can justify your insecurity. It's hilarious. What is certain however is that this is general chat material and this is general chat.
I understand some people are not happy with their purchase, that's fine. Unfortunately me and the other thousands of members on xda don't give a **** and can't do anything about it....
Comprende?
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So they should just leave because you and a hundred people don't care? And the people who do care don't matter right? Can you even quantify how much that is? Once again, hilarious. You're not the beginning or the end of the world. I can understand that you don't give a ****, nobody gives a **** about you either and you're not the center of attention.
Try to get that through your head, for once at least. Just because you want to be the little angry man who stomps his foot and wants to corral all of the threads into a single monolithic post, doesn't mean you're the center of attention and everything revolves around you.
"Me me me, my device works fine so put all of the disapproval threads in one giant thread." You're disgusting. At least I advocate non-biased discussion on both sides, you don't even try to hide it.

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Yeah I guess I should just bend over and do what you say. Makes for a boring place with you as boss.
But this isn't spam moron. Spamming involves the same person making multiple threads for the same exact subject. Like Chris making three threads about his inability to start the device. Or four bots making the same exact thread to sell their stupid herbal medicine.
This is not spam, but keep trying to morph this into whatever you want so you can justify your insecurity. It's hilarious. What is certain however is that this is general chat material and this is general chat.
So they should just leave because you and a hundred people don't care? And the people who do care don't matter right? Can you even quantify how much that is? Once again, hilarious. You're not the beginning or the end of the world. I can understand that you don't give a ****, nobody gives a **** about you either and you're not the center of attention.
Try to get that through your head, for once at least. Just because you want to be the little angry man who stomps his foot and wants to corral all of the threads into a single monolithic post, doesn't mean you're the center of attention and everything revolves around you.
"Me me me, my device works fine so put all of the disapproval threads in one giant thread." You're disgusting. At least I advocate non-biased discussion on both sides, you don't even try to hide it.
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Ye Gods !
I really hope you are a troll because if you are you are doing it quite well.
If you arent ... sheesh ......
Someone has started a thread so that people can post all their complaints and ASUS can 'see them all together' yet still you complain .....

Tubular said:
Yeah I guess I should just bend over and do what you say. Makes for a boring place with you as boss.
But this isn't spam moron. Spamming involves the same person making multiple threads for the same exact subject. Like Chris making three threads about his inability to start the device. Or four bots making the same exact thread to sell their stupid herbal medicine.
This is not spam, but keep trying to morph this into whatever you want so you can justify your insecurity. It's hilarious. What is certain however is that this is general chat material and this is general chat.
So they should just leave because you and a hundred people don't care? And the people who do care don't matter right? Can you even quantify how much that is? Once again, hilarious. You're not the beginning or the end of the world. I can understand that you don't give a ****, nobody gives a **** about you either and you're not the center of attention.
Try to get that through your head, for once at least. Just because you want to be the little angry man who stomps his foot and wants to corral all of the threads into a single monolithic post, doesn't mean you're the center of attention and everything revolves around you.
"Me me me, my device works fine so put all of the disapproval threads in one giant thread." You're disgusting. At least I advocate non-biased discussion on both sides, you don't even try to hide it.
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Lmao!!!!!!! That was quite possibly THE most entertaining thread I have ever read. You are the definition of a class act. Don't worry, I'll be your friend.
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starplaya93 said:
You can't be serious...
The "large dissaproval" rate is due 100% to what these forums have become and human nature. when people are unsatisfied for whatever reason they feel the need to be heard. Unfortunately people in there real lives don't give a damn so they conlme to xda were they know they will get a reaction. People who are satisfied on the other hand don't feel the need to be heard because they are happy...
A better judge on the "community perspective " of the tf would be customer reviews on websites such as amazon, which last time I checked were very positive for the tf ...
Why are we even arguing over this? Spamming is spamming. Its against xda rules. Argue all you want, it doesn't make a difference. The ridiculous amount of threads being started on a daily basis complaining about the same thing has gotten to be too much.
I understand some people are not happy with their purchase, that's fine. Unfortunately me and the other thousands of members on xda don't give a **** and can't do anything about it....
Comprende?
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and yet you seem to feel the need to comment. i take back my earlier comparison. xda is obviously just as full of fanboys as archosfans.
btw i love my tf, have very little problem, but its not perfect and obviously asus has some qc issues. nothing compared to archos, but still unarguable.
i find threads detailing issues and comparisons very useful and tend to have more objective information than the "share your love" topics with the "ooohhhh its so fast" commennts. issue threads and devicce comparison reviews are a buyers tools.
"if you dont like your tf take it back".... agreed, also feel free to share your experience.
"if you dont like these threads... dont read them!"

Wow. This thread clearly failed, lol.
At least it was entertaining. Thanks guys
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Someone has started a thread so that people can post all their complaints and ASUS can 'see them all together' yet still you complain .....
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Yeah, if only that was the intent. But feel free to dust off your reading skills and take a gander at the first post.
I really hope you are a troll because if you are you are doing it quite well.
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Why don't you put down the rabid fanboy / troll playbook for once?
I understand, this is the first time you've actually had to argue against someone who has a different opinion and it's upsetting you.
Lmao!!!!!!! That was quite possibly THE most entertaining thread I have ever read. You are the definition of a class act. Don't worry, I'll be your friend.
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Blah blah blah lol lol lol lmao lmao, you're saying you give up? Well when you've had such a crappy argument to begin with you really should have given up earlier.
Ya feel me playa? Let's be real. By the way your thread isn't turning out too well. Maybe next time you should actually make a thread instead of a flamepit to throw yourself and draw the neighborhood fanboy into.
According to plan? Thanks for the laugh.

Tubular said:
Yeah, if only that was the intent. But feel free to dust off your reading skills and take a gander at the first post.
Why don't you put down the rabid fanboy / troll playbook for once?
I understand, this is the first time you've actually had to argue against someone who has a different opinion and it's upsetting you.
Blah blah blah lol lol lol lmao lmao, you're saying you give up? Well when you've had such a crappy argument to begin with you really should have given up earlier.
Ya feel me playa? Let's be real. By the way your thread isn't turning out too well. Maybe next time you should actually make a thread instead of a flamepit to throw yourself and draw the neighborhood fanboy into.
According to plan? Thanks for the laugh.
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When people read this thread they will look at your post and rrealize how big of a jackass you are. I don't feel the need to get into heated arguments over the internet with people like you.
Take a step back from the internet and get yourself a breather buddy. Try talking to some people in real life and interacting with others that you can physically see. The road your headed on can't be too healthy.
also try not to become the notorious troll on these forums. We're the only pals you've got man. Take it easy
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Couldn't believe it but it seems true. The transformer HAS china quality.
The German forums are also full of critics, mostly centered around the display and dust.
http://translate.google.de/translat...sfehler-staubkoernchen-unter-dem-display.html

LMAO this is hilarious. Hey StarPlaya, if I need to take a breather you need to take one too buddy. You've been here with me every step of the way, don't kid yourself. If you think I'm pathetic you're equally pathetic. Way to shoot yourself in the foot there genius. I'll expect your next reply within five minutes, playa.
Somehow I'm pathetic but you're not when you've matched me post for post with the weakest arguments. That's because you're the ultimate playa, it says so in your name. Actually, what are you doing with a TF? Are you sure you're not supposed to be holding a bong and a 40 oz. instead? LMAO
When people read this thread they will look at your post and rrealize how big of a jackass you are. I don't feel the need to get into heated arguments over the internet with people like you.
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Get the anger out now, rage some more. You're the jackass here with your flamepit and attempts to tell people what to do and with a sarcastic opening too. "Let's put all of the *****ing and moaning in one spot", you ***** and moan enough for the whole community. Glad to know I'm getting under your skin though.

dcc22 said:
Couldn't believe it but it seems true. The transformer HAS china quality.
The German forums are also full of critics, mostly centered around the display and dust.
http://translate.google.de/translat...sfehler-staubkoernchen-unter-dem-display.html
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i dont think anyone is debating that there are issues with the TF. What i think is important is that if you google 'xoom dust under screen' or 'ipad 2 dust under screen' or 'samsung tab 10.1 dust under screen' ... or the same with light bleed ..... you will find that every manufacturer has similar issues. i dont think its unique to the TF.

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LMAO this is hilarious. Hey StarPlaya, if I need to take a breather you need to take one too buddy. You've been here with me every step of the way, don't kid yourself. If you think I'm pathetic you're equally pathetic. Way to shoot yourself in the foot there genius. I'll expect your next reply within five minutes, playa.
Somehow I'm pathetic but you're not when you've matched me post for post with the weakest arguments. That's because you're the ultimate playa, it says so in your name. Actually, what are you doing with a TF? Are you sure you're not supposed to be holding a bong and a 40 oz. instead? LMAO
Get the anger out now, rage some more. You're the jackass here with your flamepit and attempts to tell people what to do and with a sarcastic opening too. "Let's put all of the *****ing and moaning in one spot", you ***** and moan enough for the whole community. Glad to know I'm getting under your skin though.
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You're seriously getting a kick out of personally attacking somebody you don't even know?
You actually got so much under my skin that I'm goin to go cut myself now.
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Poll: Do you have a scratched display?

Who has experienced scratches on their new S6 Edge? I know this has been discussed on various threads, but no one has seemed to have actually gathered statistics about how widespread this might be/is.
EDIT: This probably might belong in the Q&A section and not here, if it does a mod can feel free to move it!

Here's a poll on Google Plus
https://plus.google.com/+ManuelAMartinez/posts/eEFigntX751

martinezma99 said:
Here's a poll on Google Plus
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ahh I see, thank you! I figured though it would be nice to have one here, since we also have multiple threads with hundreds of replies discussing this.

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ahh I see, thank you! I figured though it would be nice to have one here, since we also have multiple threads with hundreds of replies discussing this.
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Maybe you want to re title the thread to Poll: is your screen scratched?
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Maybe you want to re title the thread to Poll: is your screen scratched?
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And add link to OP?

martinezma99 said:
Maybe you want to re title the thread to Poll: is your screen scratched?
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And add link to OP?
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Done, good idea. I'll add the link to your poll in the OP soon - I'm still a new member so I'm not allowed to post links yet -_-

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Here's a poll on Google Plus
https://plus.google.com/+ManuelAMartinez/posts/eEFigntX751
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Forum poll would be preferred. I don't have a google+ account, and would be easier to just keep everything on here.
Edit: Nevermind see it

Forum poll already exists im this thread. Look at first post - use web view (not working in Tapatalk)

It looks like a third of owners from TMO have a scratched screen. This is a big deal. People may want to wait and buy one at the store to make sure it is scratched free.

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It looks like a third of owners from TMO have a scratched screen. This is a big deal. People may want to wait and buy one at the store to make sure it is scratched free.
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Definitely. Hopefully though when orders from AT&T/Verizon/Spring/others start coming in we'll be able to get a bigger picture of this whole situation. Maybe it's just a T-Mobile thing... wishful thinking?

Galaxy S (scratch) 6.

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Galaxy S (scratch) 6.
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Lol

Can any non-TMobile users chime in here? I know all the other major carriers are starting to or have already shipped units out.

i would say this is likely to be skewed results, the people with scratches screens, at least on google+, are prolly more likely to respond to this than ppl without scratched screens. Either way though, 30% on that poll saying scratched screens is a tad disconcerting..

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i would say this is likely to be skewed results, the people with scratches screens, at least on google+, are prolly more likely to respond to this than ppl without scratched screens. Either way though, 30% on that poll saying scratched screens is a tad disconcerting..
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I'd beg to argue the complete opposite - this poll is posted in the general forum, so any S6 Edge owner will come across it. Compared to the g+ poll, where you'd have to search pretty heavily to find it (at least in my case) which would generally imply you have that issue yourself - I don't spend my free time searching the internet for problems with the Flex 2 or Moto x Hopefully when more and more people get their devices we can start to paint a bigger picture about this whole situation.

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I'd beg to argue the complete opposite - this poll is posted in the general forum, so any S6 Edge owner will come across it. Compared to the g+ poll, where you'd have to search pretty heavily to find it (at least in my case) which would generally imply you have that issue yourself - I don't spend my free time searching the internet for problems with the Flex 2 or Moto x Hopefully when more and more people get their devices we can start to paint a bigger picture about this whole situation.
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yeah you have a point there.

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I'd beg to argue the complete opposite - this poll is posted in the general forum, so any S6 Edge owner will come across it. Compared to the g+ poll, where you'd have to search pretty heavily to find it (at least in my case) which would generally imply you have that issue yourself - I don't spend my free time searching the internet for problems with the Flex 2 or Moto x Hopefully when more and more people get their devices we can start to paint a bigger picture about this whole situation.
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The poll is critically flawed however.
It presumes those voting actually have an S6 Edge.
The fact anyone can tick yes or no without validating they actually have an S6 Edge makes any result scientifically untenable.
Anything so open to abuse without validation of proof will never be capable of truly being representative, or accurate. In a court of law, your evidence would be inadmissible.
Additionally it assumes that equal amount of people who get good and bad devices would be looking at a thread for pre-scratched screens when history as proved that those people with issues are far more likely to search and find threads than those which do not have issues with their device. It's called the distortion field of truth.
So as interesting as poll results like this are - they sadly will never ever be really indicative of a whole.

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The poll is critically flawed however.
It presumes those voting actually have an S6 Edge.
The fact anyone can tick yes or no without validating they actually have an S6 Edge makes any result scientifically untenable.
Anything so open to abuse without validation of proof will never be capable of truly being representative, or accurate. In a court of law, your evidence would be inadmissible.
Additionally it assumes that equal amount of people who get good and bad devices would be looking at a thread for pre-scratched screens when history as proved that those people with issues are far more likely to search and find threads than those which do not have issues with their device. It's called the distortion field of truth.
So as interesting as poll results like this are - they sadly will never ever be really indicative of a whole.
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You may be right but I find it interesting it has been a steady 70 to 30 ratio since the first 10 votes. I did not expect such a steady result.

nookcoloruser said:
The poll is critically flawed however.
It presumes those voting actually have an S6 Edge.
The fact anyone can tick yes or no without validating they actually have an S6 Edge makes any result scientifically untenable.
Anything so open to abuse without validation of proof will never be capable of truly being representative, or accurate. In a court of law, your evidence would be inadmissible.
Additionally it assumes that equal amount of people who get good and bad devices would be looking at a thread for pre-scratched screens when history as proved that those people with issues are far more likely to search and find threads than those which do not have issues with their device. It's called the distortion field of truth.
So as interesting as poll results like this are - they sadly will never ever be really indicative of a whole.
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I never said these polls are completely accurate and I completely agree with what you're saying. But since there's no easy way to ensure people who are voting actually have the device, I feel like it's better to have some poll going than have nothing at all, because I highly doubt Samsung will have users "take a survey".
And maybe it's just me, but I still seem to have just *a little* faith in humanity - I like to think that people aren't being complete a-holes and ruining the polls just for fun -_-

Sadly one more for the yes choice.
Make sure you guys look at the screen under sunlight. I thought mine was perfectly fine in-store.

My phone, as well as my father's phone, both SM-G925i 64gb one black and one white, purchased in New Zealand, are fine and have no scratches on the screen out of the box.