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Hello,
I've been looking around at all the roms etc and their change logs. They look like big improvements, so I updated to CM stable (worked fine, a little bit slow now and then) now I'm using the latest one which is meant to be the fastest but I find it hangs a lot, and is slow quite often.
Is anyone seeing this or is it just my phone.
I also have a question, when I shake my phone I can hear this ratteling sound, is that normal? my phone isn't new
Thanks.
theoneonly said:
I also have a question, when I shake my phone I can hear this ratteling sound, is that normal? my phone isn't new
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No it shouldn't do that, everything should be secure.
theoneonly said:
I also have a question, when I shake my phone I can hear this ratteling sound, is that normal? my phone isn't new
Thanks.
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what a ridiculous question.
Well I bought it used, and I only hear it sometimes like if i move it in a certain direction then it stops.
theoneonly said:
Well I bought it used, and I only hear it sometimes like if i move it in a certain direction then it stops.
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yes that is weird
brian_v3ntura said:
what a ridiculous question.
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you strike me as the type of person who has a bunch of e-friends but few if any real ones.
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you strike me as the type of person who has a bunch of e-friends but few if any real ones.
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how? becuz i think its dumb if something is moving and rattling and ask if its bad. but anyways ur make a personal attack =)
and i do have lots of friends made over . esp from playing sports. and i just got back from ufc 103 party hosted by lacrosse team member. just saying. maybe u need to brush up on things...and look at ur thread post...u posted a lot of useless threads.
In his defense it's pretty much common sense that if something is rattling when it didn't used to rattle it's most like not a good thing.
brian_v3ntura said:
how? becuz i think its dumb if something is moving and rattling and ask if its bad. but anyways ur make a personal attack =)
and i do have lots of friends made over . esp from playing sports. and i just got back from ufc 103 party hosted by lacrosse team member. just saying. maybe u need to brush up on things...and look at ur thread post...u posted a lot of useless threads.
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And you make a lot of useless posts.
You're one of the most **** trolls I've ever seen.
Go crawl back into your hole and stop hi-jacking threads.
ThrashWolf said:
And you make a lot of useless posts.
You're one of the most **** trolls I've ever seen.
Go crawl back into your hole and stop hi-jacking threads.
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actually my most recent post were influence from the "the wrecking crew" the other one are informative or opinion =)
and i only hijacked thread for about 2 or 3 days. 2 days sounds about right.
but okay thk u another personal attack. ur being watched by mods
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ur being watched by mods
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but isn't big brother always watching. because in the end, even he too, loved big brother...
To the OP: You might wanna try wiping your phone and maybe repartitioning your SD, see if any apk's your using have known conflicts with Cyan roms. Can you tell where the rattling is coming from? Also your phone is still under HTC warranty so you might be able to get them to fix it, just gotta pay shipping. Also if your on tmobile they might even do it for you for free.
Ok whatever homos are attacking brian quit your *****in. He has helped A LOT of people out here. Me and the other 2 are the ones who started the hijacking, not him. He is actually such a helpful member that he tried to help me when I was messing with him, he went as far as taking his phone apart to help me. So before you call him a troll or whatever else you should check yourself, the forum won't miss you or your retarded questions. Most of you herbs prolly drool over his girl.
One more person give brian **** and ANY THREAD OR POST you make with a stupid question or comment will get jacked, I will personally make you look like a fool, even if it gets me banned. Go back to howard forums you failures.
I'd risk a ban for that one too, brian is a very helpfull guy are here. All he did was point out something that many of us would have also made fun off. Don't worry bri, we got your back
crpercodani said:
To the OP: You might wanna try wiping your phone and maybe repartitioning your SD, see if any apk's your using have known conflicts with Cyan roms. Can you tell where the rattling is coming from? Also your phone is still under HTC warranty so you might be able to get them to fix it, just gotta pay shipping. Also if your on tmobile they might even do it for you for free.
Ok whatever homos are attacking brian quit your *****in. He has helped A LOT of people out here. Me and the other 2 are the ones who started the hijacking, not him. He is actually such a helpful member that he tried to help me when I was messing with him, he went as far as taking his phone apart to help me. So before you call him a troll or whatever else you should check yourself, the forum won't miss you or your retarded questions. Most of you herbs prolly drool over his girl.
One more person give brian **** and ANY THREAD OR POST you make with a stupid question or comment will get jacked, I will personally make you look like a fool, even if it gets me banned. Go back to howard forums you failures.
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gridlock32404 said:
I'd risk a ban for that one too, brian is a very helpfull guy are here. All he did was point out something that many of us would have also made fun off. Don't worry bri, we got your back
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thx thx =) but! i am good. i just LOVE arguing becuz more than likely i can comeback with a better rebuttal. hell i even argue a lot on youtube. i even argue with customers in the mall at work. lol. its just who i am.
brian_v3ntura said:
what a ridiculous question.
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There Are No Stupid Questions, Only Stupid Answers....and yours is one of those.
Actually no, around here there are plenty of stupid questions.
I know an I agree,but this one wasn´t ridiculous.
dta1974 said:
There Are No Stupid Questions, Only Stupid Answers....and yours is one of those.
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actually like one person said. its common sense to think something is wrong if something didnt rattle before but rattles now. so therefore it was a stupid question.
saying its a ridiculous question implies common sense.
maybe u need to rethink things before u speak since u practically contradicted urself. first saying there are no stupid question, but then agreeing that there are stupid questions here on XDA.
I agree both ways. Yea it is pretty obvious it shouldn't rattle, but you could have said it to him in a more polite manner, but if it was me I would of prolly posted a really degrading image or something.
i, too, love the subtle art of arguing.
What's it customized to do?
thread; the new pm
this ain't twitter
lock this please....
wow I thought this might be relevant to other people's interests. If you don't like the thread don't click on it.
you're not junior mods that get threads locked at your request so gtfo.
LOl Hilarious
akijikan said:
wow I thought this might be relevant to other people's interests. If you don't like the thread don't click on it.
you're not junior mods that get threads locked at your request so gtfo.
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not junior mods, not claiming to be... this isn't YOUR forum as much as it's not mine or anyone elses... and it is EXPECIALLY not your personal pm. If he responded then maybe you can put something of relevence here,
not a topic asking a specific person a specific question :facepalm:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622916
make your own kernel
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not junior mods, not claiming to be... this isn't YOUR forum as much as it's not mine or anyone elses... and it is EXPECIALLY not your personal pm. If he responded then maybe you can put something of relevence here,
not a topic asking a specific person a specific question :facepalm:
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facepalm yourself, there's nothing wrong with asking a specific person a question in a topic. You obviously don't care for the thread and you have nothing to add to it so stop posting in it just to thread crap.
david279 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622916
make your own kernel
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Thanks, I already know how to do that though. This thread was started to ask if kkruse might share with us what he did since it might be useful to incorporate into our own kernels.
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facepalm yourself, there's nothing wrong with asking a specific person a question in a topic. You obviously don't care for the thread and you have nothing to add to it so stop posting in it just to thread crap.
Thanks, I already know how to do that though.
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You're just a damn moron, so I forgive you and I'll break it down like barney... (he's a big purple stuffed dinosaur geared for 5 year olds fyi)
I see the point you would be getting at in this topic, in fact, very interested in what it *could* potentially be about... hence why I clicked on it... but found absolutely nothing of importance inside.
I want my 5 seconds of my life back please.... they add up reading crap like this. And the 5 minutes explaining that to you... I accept visa or mastercard
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You're just a damn moron, so I forgive you and I'll break it down like barney... (he's a big purple stuffed dinosaur geared for 5 year olds fyi)
I see the point you would be getting at in this topic, in fact, very interested in what it *could* potentially be about... hence why I clicked on it... but found absolutely nothing of importance inside.
I want my 5 seconds of my life back please.... they add up reading crap like this. And the 5 minutes explaining that to you... I accept visa or mastercard
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I'm not going to pay the time you wasted trying to bully me into doing things your way. Sorry you choose to see that as moronic.
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You're just a damn moron, so I forgive you and I'll break it down like barney... (he's a big purple stuffed dinosaur geared for 5 year olds fyi)
I see the point you would be getting at in this topic, in fact, very interested in what it *could* potentially be about... hence why I clicked on it... but found absolutely nothing of importance inside.
I want my 5 seconds of my life back please.... they add up reading crap like this. And the 5 minutes explaining that to you... I accept visa or mastercard
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Wow... The pot calling the kettle black... You are just as retarded.. You're arguing like a little *****.. Shut your mouth... Leave the guy alone. If you don't like the thread, forget it exists..
It is not yours, nor anyone else's to say anything.. A forum is made to voice any concerns whatsoever that the users feel necessary... For you to reply as aggressively as you did, doesn't make your forum rep jump up, you actually just end up making yourself look like a bigger **** than we all already think you are...
Every time I see one of your posts, I wish you would just leave the community...
Maybe its below your asshole tolerance level, but he has every right to post whatever he wants. Go troll somewhere else.
Now, back to the original topic OP.....
^ heard that..what rom is this kat running with the kernal darch's 2.1?
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not junior mods, not claiming to be... this isn't YOUR forum as much as it's not mine or anyone elses... and it is EXPECIALLY not your personal pm. If he responded then maybe you can put something of relevence here,
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It's 'ESPECIALLY'. There's no X in that word. Also 'relevance' not 'relevence'. I'm certain I'm missing one or two there, but this was just a quick glance. Since you seem to be all over propriety, I suggest learning to spell before criticizing others.
I like these forums, but GOD I'm getting sick of the self proclaimed topic police around here. The guy asked a legitimate question. There was no reason to jump all over him for it.
LUL
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this is funny
I am not here to agree with johnson's approach to this thread but I have to agree that this thread should not have been created in such forum. PM's are exactly how you communicate with other members and if after PMing said Member, he received info that he felt relevant to the forum, then he should post it. Just starting a thread to ask someone something like that is just a little much.
Loud noises!!!!
I am just tired of threads like this... then people backing up the justification of it being there.... then people going after the ones that get on the ones that post stupid sh*t like this....
I've been reading xda for a very long time and it just goes on and on and on, but this particular handheld seems to attract a butt load of self richous know nothings... and not noobs.. but know nothings... the retard to technical person ratio is just totally f*cked currently, makes me want to go back to hacking winmo phones or something, at least there the idiots let you know they were idiots up front.
and I don't give a big flying f if I can spell or not.. that is the weakest type of argument ever... you obvioulsy know what I'm saying... so I don't really care if you correct me or leave it be, it makes you sound as pompous as you are suggesting I am is all.
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@azyouthinkeyeiz I can be the biggest asshole on the face of the planet if I want... I can care less if you or anyone else likes me or not, a knowledgeable person is a knowledgeable person. My job and/or goal here isn't to make friends, it's to learn and to share knowledge. I can dish out whatever info I see fit however I see fit, you don't like it... tough sh*t
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Loud noises!!!!
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I love lamp.
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I am just tired of threads like this... then people backing up the justification of it being there.... then people going after the ones that get on the ones that post stupid sh*t like this....
I've been reading xda for a very long time and it just goes on and on and on, but this particular handheld seems to attract a butt load of self richous know nothings... and not noobs.. but know nothings... the retard to technical person ratio is just totally f*cked currently, makes me want to go back to hacking winmo phones or something, at least there the idiots let you know they were idiots up front.
and I don't give a big flying f if I can spell or not.. that is the weakest type of argument ever... you obvioulsy know what I'm saying... so I don't really care if you correct me or leave it be, it makes you sound as pompous as you are suggesting I am is all.
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@azyouthinkeyeiz I can be the biggest asshole on the face of the planet if I want... I can care less if you or anyone else likes me or not, a knowledgeable person is a knowledgeable person. My job and/or goal here isn't to make friends, it's to learn and to share knowledge. I can dish out whatever info I see fit however I see fit, you don't like it... tough sh*t
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How ironic that you tried to paint me as the 5 year old in the equation.
I'm here for the same thing, the sharing and development of knowledge surrounding this phone, and this thread as it was started (don't think the same could be said now) met that end in a direct manner.
The only one acting self-righteous though is you.
akijikan said:
The only one acting self-righteous though is you.
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given... but at least I know my sh*t
well i didnt but my little girl did......just dropped it off the sofa and wham gone....had a rubber case on and screen protector but that just stopped the cracks from spreading to only half way up the screen.
no insurance = oh dear what to do...so ive just insured it through me bank and hope i can get it fixed...but i sure am going to miss it while its away
ohhh dear
feel sorry for you but seriously people insurance is a must.
I hope your bank doesnt make too much of a fuss about you insuring it then immediately claiming.
personally I dont use a screen protector, I had one on for a while but I just got fed up with the extra reflectiveness and the edges being a bit raidsed (it wasnt a particularly good quality one but I havent heard much better about the more expensive ones)
I use the leather case it came with but somehow whenever I drop it, it never seems to be in. So far no smashed glass yet though probably thanks to a carpetted house. But I do have insurance in the event that it does happen.
anyway good luck with your claim and i hope it doesnt take too long.
yeah i hope so 2....i got to wait 15 days before i can claim so just av to go back to my omnia for now.ill give it a few week before i stick a claim in!
i know my little 1 wont be playing with it again though thats for sure!
my friend who works at the shop sent me this picture.
a customer droped it on the tarmac...
sad...
sorry, double post
Given you will probably have to pay a £100 excess you might want to hunt around for a repair shop. I haven't used them but you could try Undercutter.co.uk repair and return for £85.
policy covers first £30 for excess so hopefully not to bad! if i could do it myself with the right parts i would but i aint no expert!
Hey folks ! You really think it is wise to discuss insurance-tweaks in length here ? As with facebook, companies do a thorough search in funny places, also fora.
Maybe ask the Admin to del this thread ? Just in case .............
I broke mine too, looked exactly the same as the one above, (guy who dropped it on the tarmac).
I rang up my bank waited about a week after I insured it and claimed and only paid 10 pounds
Its all good now. They actually replaced the handset and didn't bother repairing it.
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Hey folks ! You really think it is wise to discuss insurance-tweaks in length here ? As with facebook, companies do a thorough search in funny places, also fora.
Maybe ask the Admin to del this thread ? Just in case .............
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Unlike facebook people dont use real names on xda and there is a lot more identifiable info on facebook than a forum, there is really no way a link could be made from a forum post to an insurance claim unless they posted a lot of personal info in said forum post.
Xp3RiM3nT said:
Unlike facebook people dont use real names on xda and there is a lot more identifiable info on facebook than a forum, there is really no way a link could be made from a forum post to an insurance claim unless they posted a lot of personal info in said forum post.
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anyhow,
yeah you can link info to people through forum posts... don't be silly
anyhow .. always better to be safe...
Anyone know if you can take out phone insurance from your bank in the U.S.?
Insurance fraud... Really classy.
Yeah, not the best thing, although I really need to take insurance as I've been risking it for four months so far...
For future, all I can recommend is a phone-wallet like this: I never like cases but at least this way, I feel it's serving a double purpose, and it's protected in all cases.
Personally I love it, and it was £4 off ebay.
Anyway, good luck to all
I am very pleased with my nexus S. I am keeping it for a looong time. I do not have any particular moans. I am happy
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I know well its pointless its more a response to the veritable plethora of negative, nexus bashing, dreary and pointless "I want rid of, dislike, unhappy with.....blah blah" posts that crop up at regular intervals. Plus its an open topic for the few happy nexus S owners to celebrate their boundless joy at their purchase
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I know well its pointless its more a response to the veritable plethora of negative, nexus bashing, dreary and pointless "I want rid of, dislike, unhappy with.....blah blah" posts that crop up at regular intervals. Plus its an open topic for the few happy nexus S owners to celebrate their boundless joy at their purchase
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Well, then perhaps you should rename it more appropriately. The current topic is a bit misleading.
Aren't there already "I love my Nexus S" threads anyways...?
yes, but then it will lose its effect
no one is going to read a topic tittle "my Nexus S is working!" "I love my Nexus S" or something along the line
LOL
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Well, then perhaps you should rename it more appropriately. The current topic is a bit misleading.
Aren't there already "I love my Nexus S" threads anyways...?
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I cast my eye on the first page of the "general" forum. Approximately 40% are dreary, negative topics that this is an indirect response to. As for nexus loving posts....they are well buried.
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"dreary and pointless "I want rid of, dislike, unhappy with.....blah blah""
Do you not think that's a little insulting to customers who have jsut forked out £429 for a phone that does not make calls properly?
Please refrain from being an idiot, unfounded moans are exactly that, but do not dumb down perfectly rightful and sane concerns regarding trading standards of BIG companies!
I do agree, it's a lovely device though
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"dreary and pointless "I want rid of, dislike, unhappy with.....blah blah""
Do you not think that's a little insulting to customers who have jsut forked out £429 for a phone that does not make calls properly?
Please refrain from being an idiot, unfounded moans are exactly that, but do not dumb down perfectly rightful and sane concerns regarding trading standards of BIG companies!
I do agree, it's a lovely device though
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Please refrain from labelling me an idiot as I have an IQ above 25
I have never had a single issue with my nexus, except self inflicted custom rom problems, and if I did have a major problem I would take it up with my phone supplier and not bore the pants off you lot on here with it. I merely make the point that there is a large amount of posts that in one way or another, ooze negativity and this is my counterbalance, because if a curious non nexus owner read these forums they would get the impression that Nexus S is a flawed and dodgy device. The XDA powers that be should consider opening another section for Nexus S "General complaints and moans". I think it would be the most popular forum and I could avoid it.
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I am very pleased with my nexus S. I am keeping it for a looong time. I do not have any particular moans. I am happy
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Dude you rock. You're getting a thanks for this thread when I get to my comp. Also, Americans need to start using the phrase shock horror.
Overall great thread. My wife and I both love our nexus s'. I owned an epic for months and that was a horrible device. Ay least with the nexus s Google is working on fixing the problems. People just need to either sell the phone their unhappy with or shut the hell up. Last i checked this wasn't xda-whingers.com it was xda-developers.com
Sent from my SubCyan CM7 Google Nexus S!
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Do you not think that's a little insulting to customers who have jsut forked out £429 for a phone that does not make calls properly?
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Then why don't they just return the phone, get their money back, and buy something they are happy with?
Instead they seem to use the ownership of a "defective" item as a license to ***** and moan like it's December 21st, 2012.
-Make a purchase we're not happy with: we all do that.
-Return it, or sell it on eBay: signs of intelligence.
-Keep it, and complain bitterly about it: now that's just stupid.
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Dude you rock. You're getting a thanks for this thread when I get to my comp. Also, Americans need to start using the phrase shock horror.
Sent from my SubCyan CM7 Google Nexus S!
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I actually regret this thread. It was due to depression/despondency reading about all the unhappiness generated about Nexus S. I am fine now and have personal inner peace about Nexus S. My one hope is that those few who love their nexus feel able to say so openly on this thread
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I actually regret this thread. It was due to depression/despondency reading about all the unhappiness generated about Nexus S. I am fine now and have personal inner peace about Nexus S. My one hope is that those few who love their nexus feel able to say so openly on this thread
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I have been feeling the same way lately. Every other thread is "waah my phone won't do this" or "Rawr I'm so angry that my phone does that". Its silly. If you're not happy about something chatting on the internet won't fix that. Either just shut the hell up about the issues your having because they will get fixed or sell it and get the hell out of here.
In answer to the above, is that i hope and pray that google sort the issues out and i get to keep this lovely device?
And i apologise to the guy above (willcpfc), not for sure saying "you were an idiot" ...more trying to stop you going down a path where you don't consider perfectly rightful concers as warranted.
I will take this back, if they do not sort it within the 30 day no quibble thing. If they iron out the bugs i have then i can keep this sweet lil number ...i do want this thing or i would not have walked into carphone warehouse and spend £429 right?
Was just trying to say, be carfeul calling complainers unfounded, especially when they have warranted concerns
much <3 to all
is it really that hard to consider the fustrations of people who want this thing, but cannto makes calls on it without fault? surely not right?
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I have been feeling the same way lately. Every other thread is "waah my phone won't do this" or "Rawr I'm so angry that my phone does that". Its silly. If you're not happy about something chatting on the internet won't fix that. Either just shut the hell up about the issues your having because they will get fixed or sell it and get the hell out of here.
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If we are happy that's all that matters. I look at my sleek, black, overclocked, cyanogen running, voodoo enabled machine and feel good
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is it really that hard to consider the fustrations of people who want this thing, but cannto makes calls on it without fault? surely not right?
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My point is that if you really want you bugs fixed, this is not the place. Google doesn't troll XDA for bugs it needs to work out, it has its own system in place that actually is pretty nice. All of the bugs I've heard of are on Google's bug reporting forum and if you have the issue go star it and comment. That's how you get the problem fixed not just constantly whinging on a developers forum.
Jamiemac1977, I admit it was wrong of me to launch an oblique attack on posters who I am sure have legitimate grievances. It is not my place to criticize. I just want a bit of happy shiny nexus owners to celebrate
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If we are happy that's all that matters. I look at my sleek, black, overclocked, cyanogen running, voodoo enabled machine and feel good
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I am happy as well. =) The only thing that could make my Nexus S better is getting a higher stable overclock =D (come on, 1.8GHz!)
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Thanks for that, feeling is mutual, i should not rise ot the bait, pretty sure we all want a lovely sleek SNS in our pockets eh.
First time i've had an issue with a device and wanted to keep it, so that says something eh ...looking forward to a happy phone
holy smokes! that's like close to 2Ghz
it'll be nice if it didn't consume so much battery power and be able to maintain those higher clock rates
That's better. Some good, positive responses. we have some great and dedicated devs. We have the latest android. Its a good looking machine. I am sure it will grow and flourish like a flower in summer. We will see great things and be able to complete with dual core competition. Its a Google, its magnificent and we are privileged to possess one. And oneday I may even find a use for the "tag" feature!
If this is the wrong place to post this I apologize and please let me know where to post or kindly move the post.
Long and short no device protection plan at all. Looking for someone experienced from the community to replace the display. Looks like the glass isn't broken. It looks like the LCD/digitizer died. Phone fell (in case). Doesn't light up at all except for the flashlight but appears to turn on etc. power button is a bit mangle as well. If someone can give me an idea where to look or a ball park price I'd be grateful.
I've looked online and I do not have the skill to try this one myself.
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If this is the wrong place to post this I apologize and please let me know where to post or kindly move the post.
Long and short no device protection plan at all. Looking for someone experienced from the community to replace the display. Looks like the glass isn't broken. It looks like the LCD/digitizer died. Phone fell (in case). Doesn't light up at all except for the flashlight but appears to turn on etc. power button is a bit mangle as well. If someone can give me an idea where to look or a ball park price I'd be grateful.
I've looked online and I do not have the skill to try this one myself.
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Check this place out,https://www.replacebase.co.uk/ all oem parts and do most parts needed for the nexus 6p, i think its about 120 ish pound for a new lcd and miframe assembly.
hope that helps
Thanks for the tip. I'm not in the U.K. and I'm looking for someone who's done this kind of repair before. From what I've read and seen it's not an "easy" job.
philo_ said:
Thanks for the tip. I'm not in the U.K. and I'm looking for someone who's done this kind of repair before. From what I've read and seen it's not an "easy" job.
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Well, to start with you may get more helpful replies if you put your location and carrier in your profile, making them visible so people know where you're from rather than saying "thanks, but I'm not from the UK".
I meant no disrespect to anyone. I'm in the us (Pennsylvania). Phone was direct from Google/Huawei and was being used on att.
Thanks for suggesting I add that info. I didn't think about it.
philo_ said:
I meant no disrespect to anyone. I'm in the us (Pennsylvania). Phone was direct from Google/Huawei and was being used on att.
Thanks for suggesting I add that info. I didn't think about it.
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It's cool.. none taken! There's no harm in putting your home town in your profile. There are a LOT of ppl on XDA and someone may know a good local repair shop in your immediate area. Best of luck.
Order the lcd and try the repair yourself, the hardest part is opening the thing, when mine broke, i ordered the lcd and a new housing which came with everything i needed, once it is opened the swapping of stuff over was the easy part, but as i was replacing the the lcd and housing, i didnt mind damaging the existing housing to get the thing apart, and when i was finished i had a brand new looking phone and only took around an hour or so to do it, youtube has some good videos on it. A new housing isnt expensive and you can learn a bit about your phone aswell. i made mine into a black and silver version. lol