increases the screen brightness even at the lowest setting...... when it updated and reset to auto brightness (at the higher level compared to 4.3).. the terrible backlight bleed round the edge of my display was visible... I hadn't noticed it before... this is the only bad thing about 4.4.2 haha..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2605008
Yes, that's true. It doesn't bother me much though
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Worth a thread? Gosh ppl are going crazy...
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Worth a thread? Gosh ppl are going crazy...
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I don't know, but it was clearly worthy a reply, huh creamy?
this is the general section btw...
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I don't know, but it was clearly worthy a reply, huh creamy?
this is the general section btw...
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You're missing the point. Here I'll help you...
Yes the post was valid & even quite useful - so well done you
Unfortunately...
There's already threads about it,if you had posted there, it would save cluttering up the forum with duplicate posts.
Cause yanno some of us actually don't relish going through posts trying to find the information we need and having to carve through a ton of needless crap to find it.
Maybe next time you fancy making a post, you'd be so good as to see if the thread already exists, and if so, then post on that?
Get it now ?
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You're missing the point. Here I'll help you...
Yes the post was valid & even quite useful - so well done you
Unfortunately...
There's already threads about it,if you had posted there, it would save cluttering up the forum with duplicate posts.
Cause yanno some of us actually don't relish going through posts trying to find the information we need and having to carve through a ton of needless crap to find it.
Maybe next time you fancy making a post, you'd be so good as to see if the thread already exists, and if so, then post on that?
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I guess I will never get it...
The Euro OTA thread for example has 100s of replies talking about many different iterations of the OTA update. I posted a specific to UK Retail OTA. I would argue that well titled, specific threads is the real answer. This will allow people to search effectively for what they want.
Anyone who has spent a large amount of time using the search facility on forums, knows the 'post' search within threads never works well. However the title search for threads works great.
It is definitely a bigger problem when people waste peoples time 'complaining' about non issues without really thinking them through.
When there are truly pointless or duplicate threads I totally agree and I've been guilty of this myself at times. I found the thread in the Q&A Section but it was talking about a different part of the audio problem so a new thread was valid. However, as I say, rather than arguing for the sake of it, posting p**sy remarks to people, why not try to find solutions for people who post questions?
I love XDA because it's not one of these forums where people scream 'noobs noobs.. use search,.. do you know nothing?' 'if you have to ask that, then xda and modding isn't for you' etc etc etc. Your attitudes is the beginning of a slippery slope toward this, so I hope it doesn't happen.
I hope you take my comments in good humour and 'get' my point.
thanks
Just use a screen filter app to reduce overal brightness by a percentage of your choice
OP, can you explain clearly what you think has changed between 4.3 to 4.4.2 on the moto G with regard to brightness? I am interested, but I do not understand in what mode you think it is brighter. Are you saying that in auto mode you think it is overall brighter? Are you saying that in manual mode when at the most left position on the slider in kitkat it is brighter than it was when at most left position on version 4.3? I cannot detect a difference. How did you measure this...purely on your perception?
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OP, can you explain clearly what you think has changed between 4.3 to 4.4.2 on the moto G with regard to brightness? I am interested, but I do not understand in what mode you think it is brighter. Are you saying that in auto mode you think it is overall brighter? Are you saying that in manual mode when at the most left position on the slider in kitkat it is brighter than it was when at most left position on version 4.3? I cannot detect a difference. How did you measure this...purely on your perception?
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In the interest of saving battery, I pretty much always have it on manual, set to minimum. If im in bad lighting or in the car, I set it to auto.
So, I had it set to minimum on manual under 4.3. At this level there was almost no perceivable backlight bleed when the screen was showing a black/dark screen (such as settings menu). I had never noted a problem as such with backlight bleed on this phone really.
I updated to 4.4.2. It was set to Auto brightness when it booted for first time. Back light bleed was striking and clearly a lot worse. I set brightness to manual, minimum. Backlight bleed was still very noticeable at the corners and at one edge of screen.
It's slightly subjective, but I'm in no doubt that 'minimum manual brightness' is not as low under 4.4.2 as it was under 4.3. I 'assume' that auto brightness doesn't go as low either, because:
If you are in a pitch dark room, and you change from minimum manual bright, to auto, the screen gets brighter, not the same or darker under 4.4.2..
I was searching other peoples findings and the link someone posted earlier in this thread shows the same thing more empirically..
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I guess I will never get it...
The Euro OTA thread for example has 100s of replies talking about many different iterations of the OTA update. I posted a specific to UK Retail OTA. I would argue that well titled, specific threads is the real answer. This will allow people to search effectively for what they want.
Anyone who has spent a large amount of time using the search facility on forums, knows the 'post' search within threads never works well. However the title search for threads works great.
It is definitely a bigger problem when people waste peoples time 'complaining' about non issues without really thinking them through.
When there are truly pointless or duplicate threads I totally agree and I've been guilty of this myself at times. I found the thread in the Q&A Section but it was talking about a different part of the audio problem so a new thread was valid. However, as I say, rather than arguing for the sake of it, posting p**sy remarks to people, why not try to find solutions for people who post questions?
I love XDA because it's not one of these forums where people scream 'noobs noobs.. use search,.. do you know nothing?' 'if you have to ask that, then xda and modding isn't for you' etc etc etc. Your attitudes is the beginning of a slippery slope toward this, so I hope it doesn't happen.
I hope you take my comments in good humour and 'get' my point.
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I think the issue is that the moto g forums have a lot of LAZY noobs. Being a noob is fine as long as people search before asking questions or making new threads. Everyone starts somewhere.
At the moment the LAZY people really are cluttering up the forums and threads. Look at how many posted just say they did NOT yet have the UK OTA. Complete waste of time and this is what is annoying the people who are trying to answer questions.
Being technically unaware is fine. Just being LAZY is not.
This is not directed at you, just trying to explain why people may be getting a bit annoyed.
Just get Lux. Problem solved.
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actually in my moto g auto brightness is very low, if i install lux and put in auto modo i can see the the dusplay is brighter, do this happen to anybody else?
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ive also installed a backlid test and at 100% brightness theres no bleed at all, it looks pretty much darker, could be a problem of mine?
My moto g has 2% in minimal bright by Installing Xposed + gravitybox
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I've been lurking here for awhile and only recently have been paying close attention since getting an EVO. This is a general rant and obviously cant be applied to every person and Im not saying at all that the forum is not a good resource but....
This forum is by far THE worst i have seen with reposts and redundant questions. Its ridiculous... you get literally 10 threads on the first page with the same topic, and within a thread you get the same question being asked and answered literally 3 posts away from the last time. How is a forum that is supposed to be technical THIS bad with simple reading!?
Threads are basically useless past the first post because because its hundreds of pages of repeated questions after.
For god's sake people, READ. I dont care how excites you are about finding out something everyone else already knew, check to see if theres a thread already. And stop asking questions that have been answered a hundred times already.
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I agree 100%!
I think when you first sign up there should be like a 4 day waiting period before you are allowed your first post. This way, either they will start reading and find the solution or leave and we won't have to worry about it.
EDIT: I know this doesn't apply to people already registered but most are people with low post counts who post repeated topics.
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I agree 100%!
I think when you first sign up there should be like a 4 day waiting period before you are allowed your first post. This way, either they will start reading and find the solution or leave and we won't have to worry about it.
EDIT: I know this doesn't apply to people already registered but most are people with low post counts who post repeated topics.
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That is a pretty good idea you just came up with there!
Frankly this forum has turned to trash which is why most of the serious posters don't even bother with it.
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Frankly this forum has turned to trash which is why most of the serious posters don't even bother with it.
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Then where do those serious posters post?
yeah there are waaay to many people who basically just want someone else to do everything for them, and dont want to actually search for themselves. frankly i think its US the people who know how to use a forum properly, that should NOT be paying attention to these people. i wish people would just not respond to all those lazy people who just want to be spoonfed on what to do. if you think our evo forum is bad lol imagine if we had an IPHONE forum LOL
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if you think our evo forum is bad lol imagine if we had an IPHONE forum LOL
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Thanks, now I am going to have nightmares.
yeah i mean i pretty much almost never go into the Q&A section, and general section because 90% of whats in there is a bunch "i dont know how to do this please tell me how" probably because those people never finished their freshman year in college and actually learned how to do proper research... but oh well, i mean the only forum i check is the development one, it seems to slowly be getting better and better. very slowly.
I agree with the OP, however, this is simply a side effect from the forum hitting the mainstream. At almost 3 million users, it is simply impossible not to get these kinds of people. The development forum is a lot better though since it's better curated.
I've learned to simply ignore it and move along. Trust me, it could be way worse.
how do i root my phone... I'm kidding of course
sent from satan fone!
I think I know how to clean up the redundant threads a little bit.
The forum administrator could change the input field for naming your new thread into a hidden Google search box!
So then people type their new topic into the box and WHAMMO suddenly there is >3,000,000 solutions right in their face before they even begin to start writing the body of the post.
The thread starter must then click on a minimum number of links from the googled solutions before they are allowed to actually post their question with a new thread!
Problem solved....
Unfortunately, the search in the XDA app sux.
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the problem is it's frustrating for everyone.
and also not to point fingers but there's only one way to really curb the problem.
More information available more easily.
Better more acccurate more updated Wiki or compilation of ALL the basics.
Also, for everyone that starts a thread you need to put in more details, Sometimes I'm amazed at how a developer can master putting everything for the phone together and then post a thread saying..... Here's my rom WEE clicky here, done.
DETAILS install, how to when where what, update and keep things updated.
most of the stuff I can navigate threw myself and thats fine but sometimes theres like 300 pages and your getting no where, if your the thread starter and you add something important to the conversation mid thread, edit your first post.
As far as people posting stupid VERY simple repetitive questions, just try and search it first please, ugh.
I agree with the xda app search sucks.. i get low data speed here in wisconsin usually 30kb/s or under so dont use the internet for the site.. the search should be able to sure certain forums that would help alot of people out who do actually use the search but hard finding it with the app search..
sent from my Evo
Also alot of people dont word the topic right or even have what they are asking about.. like today someone put... help!. Had good info on radios but someone thats looking up the same thing wont run into it.
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Now that I think about it, the hardest thing to do is run through a 200 page topic and actually pull useful information out of it. An example:
The first 500 replys are:
First!
downloading...
Will DL when I get home...
Downloading now
ect, ect for 500 pages
Then you finally get to the meat of the topic when you no longer see "downloading now" and you start to see "my 4gee's no workie" for another 150 pages only to realize that the answer to all of those questions was in the OP that nobody read!
This cycle goes on and on and it's nearly impossible to gather intelligence from chaos like that.
this is probably the 10th topic about this....just sayin
In your third paragraph, you repeated yourself by saying "because" twice. Practice what you preach. If you think you can do it better, go start your own forum.
I'm just bs'ing/being a smartass. You are okay to have your opinion. I can understand when a person gets in a mood and needs to rant to vent some frustrations. You may also have some valid points.
My parting thought:
It can be said in many different ways. Instead of complaining about something you don't agree with or like, might I make a suggestion to volunteer yourself to make things better. Trying to focus on solutions instead of problems.
Don't get me wrong. I'm no saint. Some people really irritate the crap out of me too, plus, I know I'm not mr personality either.
The mods have their hands full (I'm sure that's an understatement). If you can do your good deed for the day and help out a newb, then you are giving back.
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This forum desperately needs more moderation. I messaged toast over a month ago with this suggestion and offered my help as I have moderated other forums. He never even bothered to respond.
For a tech forum,moderation is the difference between good and lousy. Self policing can only go so far.
As for the search, there is no problem with it. VB is the most popular forum software for a reason. It works very well. Pro tip: 99% of your searches should be title only.
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I've been lurking here for awhile and only recently have been paying close attention since getting an EVO. This is a general rant and obviously cant be applied to every person and Im not saying at all that the forum is not a good resource but....
This forum is by far THE worst i have seen with reposts and redundant questions. Its ridiculous... you get literally 10 threads on the first page with the same topic, and within a thread you get the same question being asked and answered literally 3 posts away from the last time. How is a forum that is supposed to be technical THIS bad with simple reading!?
Threads are basically useless past the first post because because its hundreds of pages of repeated questions after.
For god's sake people, READ. I dont care how excites you are about finding out something everyone else already knew, check to see if theres a thread already. And stop asking questions that have been answered a hundred times already.
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The big problem is when people get their EVO, they realize their battery lasts 20 minutes out of the box. They then get on google and try to find out how to increase their battery life. They find an article on some douchebag blog talking about rooting their phone. These people then google rooting their phone and all signs point to XDA. Sometimes they know a guy or have a friend of a friend who told them to "root" their phone, skipping the first step.
This is exactly why there are 100 repeated questions/threads. Everyone is directed to this website from various other websites. So you will get people who want instant answers and don't want to wade through tons of replies/text.
Lately this forum has been littered with senseless and useless garbage. People are starting threads only to say stuff like "I got Froyo...not!". I thought the point of this community was to share information and be helpful to others in need. Who is the moderator here (do we even have one? I have yet to see one post), and why is all of this nonsense allowed to fly?
here...here.
Amen, this **** is getting really old.
YOU ARENT FUNNY OR ORIGINAL.
Theres at least 3 or 4 topics on the first page with this bull****, why hasnt it been cleaned out?
My topic was deleted immediately after my problem was solved, yet all these 12 year olds run rampant here in the General section, completely unchecked.
Funny, i reported to moderators the same thing you are saying a few minutes ago... i mostly just ignore those kind of posts, but it's getting very old to come in here and just read senseless threads all over it.
If they where at least original but three threads for the same stupidity, seriously?
Vibrant vibrating nicely now,Kthx!
I think the moderator is also a developer. Properly moderating this forum would probably require at least one full time salaried employee.
I agree though, this is quite possibly one of the worst boards I've ever read. If you check out the other sections of this site it seems pretty normal, vibrant section is like west Baltimore. No idea why that is, different overall demographic I guess, lot of kids, who knows.
Its fun to read over coffee or while bored at work, and there are some decent posters, but overall the vibrant general board is pretty well a mess.
I happens...as a long-time lurker and now registered, it looks like the "android-forums" are leaching over. I just do not click on topics that seem to fit into this thread's category.
Yea, it has gotten old.
You know what I find even more annoying ....
People that do not contribute, have been here only a short time, that think they know what is best for this board ...
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You know what I find even more annoying ....
People that do not contribute, have been here only a short time, that think they know what is best for this board ...
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Are you serious?
Please let me know the exact post count/contribution threshold that you have deemed appropriate for deciding whether or not a useless, off-topic post, belongs anywhere other than the Off-Topic board.
In fact, what I find most annoying, is people who have inflated egos and think that they are better and can decide who is a worthy contributor.
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You know what I find even more annoying ....
People that do not contribute, have been here only a short time, that think they know what is best for this board ...
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What's worse is a senior member not realizing that what the op is saying is completely true. You don't have to be here for a long time to know what's right, that's common sense.
If I was allowed to moderate this thread, just logging in once a night to delete/ move threads should be enough to keep it clean. Then, when I get tired of doing so, why not allow someone else to do it? Just a thought.
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Are you serious?
Please let me know the exact post count/contribution threshold that you have deemed appropriate for deciding whether or not a useless, off-topic post, belongs anywhere other than the Off-Topic board.
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Never said anything about off topic posts, or even post count .....
But to make a thread like this is just as bad ...
But like any "community" you have different types of people, and unless the "majority" sees the problem then just whining about it does nothing but annoy the rest of us.
It is the old "If you are not part of the solution , you are part of the problem" stance, there are contact pages to send messages to the board owners/admins for this kind of thing.
This board has been here for a long time, and it was originally for people who were DEV's and People wanting to learn not for instant gratification.
I do agree that the "BS" threads are annoying, but does this thread not fall into that same category.
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Never said anything about off topic posts, or even post count .....
But to make a thread like this is just as bad ...
But like any "community" you have different types of people, and unless the "majority" sees the problem then just whining about it does nothing but annoy the rest of us.
It is the old "If you are not part of the solution , you are part of the problem" stance, there are contact pages to send messages to the board owners/admins for this kind of thing.
This board has been here for a long time, and it was originally for people who were DEV's and People wanting to learn not for instant gratification.
I do agree that the "BS" threads are annoying, but does this thread not fall into that same category.
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I have contacted moderators/admins.
But it comes down to what constitutes deletion of a thread. Like I said earlier, I started a topic in Q&A recently with a bug question. I solved my problem, but in solving it, another question arose. However my thread was deleted before I could even come back to check it again.
If my thread, after having my problem solved, was deemed unnecessary, then why not all these garbage threads, with no point or reason?
Well said op big +1 from this vib/xda user.
And all the "bricked" threads.. Dont people have scrole wheels on thier f_ing mouses?
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I have contacted moderators/admins.
But it comes down to what constitutes deletion of a thread, like I said earlier, I started a topic in Q&A recently with a bug question, I solved my problem, but in solving it, another question arose. However my thread was deleted before I could even come back to check it again.
If my thread, after having my problem solved, was deemed unnecessary, then why not all these garbage threads, with no point or reason?
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Mainly because this is a public forum, and yes they are annoying, and a lot of useless crap, but everyone has a right to post , UNLESS the "gods on high" deem it unworthy, not sure why your thread got deleted, did you ask for it to be, was it a double post...
Yet here as with life there is/are double standards, so again making threads whining about it, is about as annoying and as the "nonsense" threads.
Are people unable to NOT READ nonsense threads, someone twisting your arm making you go into them, does search not work for you.
You do realize that what keeps a lot of the "nonsense" threads up in the list is people going into them complaining about them, people going in and saying "delete this thread" every few minutes does not help anything except keeping it at the top.
Ignore them and they will go away ...
I agree. The general forum is no longer worth reading.
both sides of fence
hell i just got rick rolled in a froyo thread but my fault for reading the thread. but i see both sides of the argument if you get annoyed from what people post don't read, but there are those who do like to abuse their posting rights and post stupid stuff but the rick rolling i got to give them kudos haven't been rick rolled in like a year so, touche on that one but yeah i would like to see more legit posts from people and not just some stupid gag post.
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hell i just got rick rolled in a froyo thread but my fault for reading the thread. but i see both sides of the argument if you get annoyed from what people post don't read, but there are those who do like to abuse their posting rights and post stupid stuff but the rick rolling i got to give them kudos haven't been rick rolled in like a year so, touche on that one but yeah i would like to see more legit posts from people and not just some stupid gag post.
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You really can't control , or I say should not have to control, what and where people post, but you can control responses to those posts, if you ignore them , they fall off the radar, if you keep posting in them to complain they stay at the top.
Just as much as the people posting the crap , the people responding to the crap need some self control.
So again "if you are not part of the solution , you are part of the problem" .
but I agree, have not been "rick rolled" in quite some time, silly , useless , but still some funny stuff ....
I liked the shroom thread.
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Not a lot going on in vibrant land lately so not a lot of relevant worth reading topics or posts to water down the spam and trolls.
Once rom development picks up the vibrant boards will be flooded with topics and posts by people who can't read or follow directions and have no reason to be mucking around with their phones in the first place and demand help for problems they can't describe in coherent sentences. Like every other part of the forum.
Hopefully the development out weighs all of these things, which is what kept me coming back with my G1 and MyTouch 3G. Just report the thread/post and move on. What more can you do? Feeding the trolls never helps.
it's just the world we live in. as technology becomes the norm for most kids growing up, there will always be a clash. back in 96 it wasn't this bad. Kinda like dealing with your little brother we'll just have to deal with it. The only help we can get is some decent moderation here but they are not willing to do their job. Oh, they are busy? Then why not get someone for free [people do it for free ya know] to moderate the damn place?
sane1 - dude I like your avatar
Anybody have any ideas. I am aware that devs are not supporting the original leak. But im just looking for info more than anything. Every once in a while i will hit the home button and as soon as i return to the home screen the calendar clock, and the feeds and updates widget are no longer there.
I think I know what you're talking about. If you wait a little bit they come back... think it's the launcher resetting. Did it to me a lot too, switched to super clean, haven't seen it since *knock on wood*.
This belongs in general. Read Me
But it happens to me to with beautiful widgets. Time and again. i just deal with it since this is not the final build.
I understand what your guys are saying but thats not my problem. im fully aware that if you use adobe flash, or apps that use a lot of resources that if you hit home sometimes it will refresh the home screen (happened all the time on the Original droid). My problem is the widgets disappear all together meaning they dont reappear. Ohh and this isnt a general question this question refers to an unofficial rom aka ROM DEVELOPMENT!!!
Also its not all the widgets that disappear it just the Samsung widgets (i only use calendar clock, and feeds and updates widget)
If you read that link you would see that your question should have gone in the leak thread. Or your thread should have been started in general. Why must people try to justify their mistakes?
good day. From the Fascinate sporting the XDA app.
Here are few key excerpts so you don't have to read the whole thing:
If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
So remember… before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can’t answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
There are way to many people on this forum that obviously don't get any ass.
But to op yes mine disappear aswell like sammy facebook widget is allways disappearing.
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There are way to many people on this forum that obviously don't get any ass.
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I lol'd. Agreed.
And same here op. It bothered me for awhile cause I really like the program monitor widget and that blue digital clock. I ended up just getting another widget from the market but touchwiz seems to make it all shaky every time I went to another screen. Wish there was a fix, but I just deal with it.
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There are way to many people on this forum that obviously don't get any ass.
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If that's the case then consider it their sacrifice so YOU can have a nicely running phone. So stfu and listen to them when they tell you what you should have been doing in the first place.
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There are way to many people on this forum that obviously don't get any ass.
But to op yes mine disappear aswell like sammy facebook widget is allways disappearing.
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First of all, I'm married, so of course I don't. And second, I don't see how sexual frustration = desire for the development board to remain uncluttered with stuff that belongs elsewhere. Can you explain that?
Lol its all in fun.
I switched to the official leak useing the official kernel and widgets are not disappearing now....
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There are way to many people on this forum that obviously don't get any ass.
But to op yes mine disappear aswell like sammy facebook widget is allways disappearing.
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It must be our proper grammar, correct spelling, and common sense.
Stop being such a troll.
Seriously? He just wanted to know why his Widgets are disappearing. If you seriously expect anyone new to this forum to read through a big list of rules, it sucks all the fun out of being an android user. He posted in the wrong section, we get it. It's now dead and done. Let's try and help with an explanation as opposed to making him feel stupid for posting in the wrong section. If it's as simple as telling them once to not post such things in here again and move the thread, why doesn't that just happen?
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Seriously? He just wanted to know why his Widgets are disappearing. If you seriously expect anyone new to this forum to read through a big list of rules, it sucks all the fun out of being an android user. He posted in the wrong section, we get it. It's now dead and done. Let's try and help with an explanation as opposed to making him feel stupid for posting in the wrong section. If it's as simple as telling them once to not post such things in here again and move the thread, why doesn't that just happen?
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^I agree with you wholeheartedly, and I dont think they were trying to attack him personally, but...
it's a matter of frustration that established users have here with people completely disregarding the rules (and this is coming from someone with low post count). To my understanding the development fora are supposed to be FOR devs, not end-users. I think our role as end-users (in this development forum) is to provide support in terms of bug reporting (or whatever the dev might need) and such WITHIN specific dev threads. By not adhering to the rules, new users are unintentionally changing the dynamic of how these fora are supposed to operate.
So they're not trying to be d*cks, they're just trying to maintain the integrity of this forum.
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Seriously? He just wanted to know why his Widgets are disappearing. If you seriously expect anyone new to this forum to read through a big list of rules, it sucks all the fun out of being an android user. He posted in the wrong section, we get it. It's now dead and done. Let's try and help with an explanation as opposed to making him feel stupid for posting in the wrong section. If it's as simple as telling them once to not post such things in here again and move the thread, why doesn't that just happen?
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Let me put it into context for you:
Here is the third post of the thread. It contains a simple reminder to please post in the correct section, and an answer to the original question. Exactly as you suggest, telling him once.
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This belongs in general. Read Me
But it happens to me to with beautiful widgets. Time and again. i just deal with it since this is not the final build.
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Here is the very next post. It shows the original poster, who obviously didn't read the provided readme in the above post, attempting to justify his posting in the wrong section. This is where it became an issue, when the OP, instead of admitting his mistake and avoiding misplaced topics in the future (which would be perfectly forgivable, and not a problem) defends his uninformed postition with his own flawed logic.
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I understand what your guys are saying but thats not my problem. im fully aware that if you use adobe flash, or apps that use a lot of resources that if you hit home sometimes it will refresh the home screen (happened all the time on the Original droid). My problem is the widgets disappear all together meaning they dont reappear. Ohh and this isnt a general question this question refers to an unofficial rom aka ROM DEVELOPMENT!!!
Also its not all the widgets that disappear it just the Samsung widgets (i only use calendar clock, and feeds and updates widget)
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Easy solution: Read the rules, and when you're corrected by someone with 10 times your post count, who provides verification, just admit you were wrong.
How about a solution to this problem,, in the sub forum section page change the expalnation of the 4 sub forums to capatilazation and place it before the actual sub forum link and change the sub forum link to un capitalized font . I think this might help force people to rerad first before clicking the link.
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It must be our proper grammar, correct spelling, and common sense.
Stop being such a troll.
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OMG u got me man u got me good im just gonna go now since i've been owned.
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How about a solution to this problem,, in the sub forum section page change the expalnation of the 4 sub forums to capatilazation and place it before the actual sub forum link and change the sub forum link to un capitalized font . I think this might help force people to rerad first before clicking the link.
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Better idea just password protect this section so only devs can post here. FYI there will be about 4 posts a month in this forum then lol.
bL33d said:
Better idea just password protect this section so only devs can post here. FYI there will be about 4 posts a month in this forum then lol.
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No one has a problem with everyone being able to post in the development forum, Just people cluttering it up with things that belong in the general forum. I will never understand how people can argue so hard for anarchy. If developers and veterans are complaining about the state of the site, then maybe you ought to get your act together or we'll just leave. Then who's going to help you with your issues? Other noobs who have won the right to post wherever the hell they want by driving off the people who actually make roms and mods and fixes. If the op wanted a topic for his specific issue, he should have posted it in general. If he wanted to post in development he should have done so in the thread for the rom he is using, not created a new thread. It's clearly stated in the rules. Why is that such a problem to some people?
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Let me put it into context for you:
Here is the third post of the thread. It contains a simple reminder to please post in the correct section, and an answer to the original question. Exactly as you suggest, telling him once.
Here is the very next post. It shows the original poster, who obviously didn't read the provided readme in the above post, attempting to justify his posting in the wrong section. This is where it became an issue, when the OP, instead of admitting his mistake and avoiding misplaced topics in the future (which would be perfectly forgivable, and not a problem) defends his uninformed postition with his own flawed logic.
Easy solution: Read the rules, and when you're corrected by someone with 10 times your post count, who provides verification, just admit you were wrong.
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I'm sorry dev, but the number of people who are dumb and being asses gonna to out strip you by more than 100 to 1. You should learn to tolerate that as being the norm, to have common sense is pretty much a crime to humanity and the norm.
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I'm sorry dev, but the number of people who are dumb and being asses gonna to out strip you by more than 100 to 1. You should learn to tolerate that as being the norm, to have common sense is pretty much a crime to humanity and the norm.
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He's a troll, just ignore him. This thread should be locked since the OP has been helped and it's just going downhill.
Thanks for all your work sonofskywalker, I keep alternating between Blackhole and Superclean still trying to figure out which is a better fit.
As seen on big sites and Google forums. This may become so BIG! that Google just might be hitting us unhappy people with a Ota/app.apk/link to update soon because of the change of colors on the Nexus S....Here is the link...oooh, yeah.
http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-s-233-update-bringing-unwanted-screen-issues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmBhS53svPY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5IIxMlRdnQ&annotation_id=annotation_916247&feature=iv
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=26fa0683976754c4&hl=en
Looks okay to me. But it would be awesome if we could adjust it our selves.
Sent from my Nexus S
Totally disagree...
The 2.3.3 color settings are a massive improvement!
The real problem is that Samsung never addressed this issue with their SAMOLED phones to begin with. Now they've trained their customers to expect these garish contrast and color imbalances.
If you read through those threads you linked, you'll see that there are plenty of people that like the new color rendering.
Maybe Google should make the display settings user-adjustable like a TV.
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As seen on big sites and Google forums. This may become so BIG! that Google just might be hitting us unhappy people with a Ota/app.apk/link to update soon because of the change of colors on the Nexus S....Here is the link...oooh, yeah.
http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-s-233-update-bringing-unwanted-screen-issues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmBhS53svPY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5IIxMlRdnQ&annotation_id=annotation_916247&feature=iv
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=26fa0683976754c4&hl=en
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Jalyn02, stop posting in the development section unless you are posting a [ROM], a [Kernel], a [Guide] or a [Reference]. This thread is none of those and does not belong here. Follow the XDA rules.
Sorry XDA MOD'S I'M a little new to the threads
can you delete this thread I'll have to move it to general...Sorry
Why is it that you want to be a mod so bad? let them speak on there own...BTW! I just said THAT!
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Jalyn02, stop posting in the development section unless you are posting a [ROM], a [Kernel], a [Guide] or a [Reference]. This thread is none of those and does not belong here. Follow the XDA rules.
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can you delete this thread I'll have to move it to general...Sorry
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Its been reported and a mod will move it but in the future I would suggest you read the rules of the forums. This should have been posted on one of the many threads already discussing the color 'issue'.
Now, on topic:
To anyone who thinks there really is an issue here is what I want to see: Get a sheet of blank white printer paper. Navigate your phone to Google.com and hold the sheet of paper over the google logo so you see only the white paper and the white background of the page. Tell me how different the two colors look and take a picture. Post them. I'd bet they are pretty damn close because I know the colors on my Nexus S and my wife's after I updated both to stock 2.3.3 were very natural looking. What most people call bright on the other SGS devices is actually just very blue which the human eye reads as very bright white. Its not. I
Here is another fun test:
Navigate to this image on your phone: Picture on 2.3.3 and see how much detail you can see. Now revert back to 2.3.2 (just flash any current ROM) and do the same test. Guess what? You won't see near as much detail. What you think is deep blacks actually should be nuanced greys but because of the overly blue saturation it appears to be black.
One final fun test: If you have photoshop open a new file and make it blue. Now invert the color. Guess what color comes up? Yellow! The same supposed new tint of the screen.
@kenvan19, people like you are the reason why people leave XDA. Please let XDA do there job's I rather here the bad news from xda whenI make a mistake then you or any other average JOE.
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@kenvan19, people like you are the reason why people leave XDA. Please let XDA do there job's I rather here the bad news from xda whenI make a mistake then you or any other average JOE.
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If I make people who clutter the development section with useless posts that are redundant and irrelevant then I'm happy about that. Also, mods know that they can't read every new thread posted so they do ask that people help enforce the rules, I did that politely. You took it personally and decided to attack me.
I'm not a troll or do I flame the threads. I am a real person that love XDA and, would never troll there site. I was excited and really wanted to get the good news to the people who don't like the new color on there Nexus S. I spoke to Ry Guy over @ Google forums and, I do see that there are two sides to the story. one side said that they had a problem from the beginning, now the other side; witch is my side and many of others don't think that it should have been change. You would be a lie if you are saying that more people like this, then the one's that don't. If you read the link over a Google forums that I posted, you would see that more people don't like the change of the color then that do.
@kenvan19, I'm sorry if you think that I attacked you, I really am. I did not mean to post that here. I think that if I post it in the right section then, more people would have got what I call good new's then here...
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I'm not a troll or do I flame the threads. I am a real person that love XDA and, would never troll there site. I was excited and really wanted to get the good news to the people who don't like the new color on there Nexus S. I spoke to Ry Guy over @ Google forums and, I do see that there two sides to the story. one side said that they had a problem from the beginning, now the other side; witch is my side and many of others don't think that it should have been change. You would be a lie if you are saying that more people like this, then the one's that don't. If you read the link over a Google forums that I posted, you would see that more people don't like the change of the color then that do.
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I'm not calling you a troll nor do I know how many people like it as opposed to how many don't. What I can tell you is which side is wrong about it being factually "wrong". What I mean by that is claiming the yellow tint is a bug or something of the sort is false. I can see the difference between the two screens; I held my wife's 2.3.2 phone next to my 2.3.3 and I saw the difference but I also know that what people are calling overly yellowish is actually just more natural. Now, if people dislike that they are more than welcome to try and change it for themselves but I would rather have an accurate display on my phone that shows minute details than having one that looks a bit brighter while not actually being brighter.
Dude...Here, Hear...there, their, ...learn how to spell you illiterati.
@kenvan19, O'k but, do you think that Google should have put a app.apk in the update for us to adjust the screen i'll selves to even things out? I think it was a bold move on Google. Something like what T-Mobile did with the Vibrant, when they put the Task Manager in a update to save on the battery.
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@kenvan19, O'k but, do you think that Google should have put a app.apk in the update for us to adjust the screen i'll selves to even things out? I think it was a bold move on Google. Something like what T-Mobile did with the Vibrant, when they put the Task Manager in a update to save on the battery.
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Honestly, and I know this will sound ignorant, I don't think they should've. I think they made the right choice and that there are plenty of apps on the market that can alter the color temperature not to mention the voodoo kernel which most people are reporting makes everything look "normal" again.
I don't really understand why people unhappy with it. I was going to sale my Nexus S because of this purple tint issue, and then Voodoo color patch released for Nexus S. It also fixed the purple tint on dark greys. And now Google released an update that fixes those purple tint at all.
Now it looks like how it should be.
White is white, grey is grey, black is black. Nothing washed out.
I <3 my Nexus S now =)
They were trying to fix the gray's which they did, but they did it wrong. Thankfully, there's Netarchy's kernel working with voodoo color and it looks awesome.
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They were trying to fix the gray's which they did, but they did it wrong. Thankfully, there's Netarchy's kernel working with voodoo color and it looks awesome.
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Actually, you're wrong. They did it perfectly. If you read any of the posts by myself or the others who have actually done real color calibrations then you would know that. Its just that the blind masses tend to like bright, shiny stuff better than things that look, you know, real.
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@kenvan19, people like you are the reason why people leave XDA. Please let XDA do there job's I rather here the bad news from xda whenI make a mistake then you or any other average JOE.
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And this post is why you've been added to my ignore list.
Got the phone yesterday, it had 2.3.2, upgraded to 2.3.3 and I think that the colors look washed out and yellowish.
I'm not saying it isn't right in a colorimetrical way, but I loved the 2.3.2 colors a lot more.
I hope they do something about this in the next update.
Who has experienced scratches on their new S6 Edge? I know this has been discussed on various threads, but no one has seemed to have actually gathered statistics about how widespread this might be/is.
EDIT: This probably might belong in the Q&A section and not here, if it does a mod can feel free to move it!
Here's a poll on Google Plus
https://plus.google.com/+ManuelAMartinez/posts/eEFigntX751
martinezma99 said:
Here's a poll on Google Plus
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ahh I see, thank you! I figured though it would be nice to have one here, since we also have multiple threads with hundreds of replies discussing this.
duckdude555 said:
ahh I see, thank you! I figured though it would be nice to have one here, since we also have multiple threads with hundreds of replies discussing this.
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Maybe you want to re title the thread to Poll: is your screen scratched?
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martinezma99 said:
Maybe you want to re title the thread to Poll: is your screen scratched?
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And add link to OP?
martinezma99 said:
Maybe you want to re title the thread to Poll: is your screen scratched?
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And add link to OP?
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Done, good idea. I'll add the link to your poll in the OP soon - I'm still a new member so I'm not allowed to post links yet -_-
martinezma99 said:
Here's a poll on Google Plus
https://plus.google.com/+ManuelAMartinez/posts/eEFigntX751
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Forum poll would be preferred. I don't have a google+ account, and would be easier to just keep everything on here.
Edit: Nevermind see it
Forum poll already exists im this thread. Look at first post - use web view (not working in Tapatalk)
It looks like a third of owners from TMO have a scratched screen. This is a big deal. People may want to wait and buy one at the store to make sure it is scratched free.
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It looks like a third of owners from TMO have a scratched screen. This is a big deal. People may want to wait and buy one at the store to make sure it is scratched free.
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Definitely. Hopefully though when orders from AT&T/Verizon/Spring/others start coming in we'll be able to get a bigger picture of this whole situation. Maybe it's just a T-Mobile thing... wishful thinking?
Galaxy S (scratch) 6.
ChristianJay said:
Galaxy S (scratch) 6.
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Lol
Can any non-TMobile users chime in here? I know all the other major carriers are starting to or have already shipped units out.
i would say this is likely to be skewed results, the people with scratches screens, at least on google+, are prolly more likely to respond to this than ppl without scratched screens. Either way though, 30% on that poll saying scratched screens is a tad disconcerting..
rjwdon said:
i would say this is likely to be skewed results, the people with scratches screens, at least on google+, are prolly more likely to respond to this than ppl without scratched screens. Either way though, 30% on that poll saying scratched screens is a tad disconcerting..
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I'd beg to argue the complete opposite - this poll is posted in the general forum, so any S6 Edge owner will come across it. Compared to the g+ poll, where you'd have to search pretty heavily to find it (at least in my case) which would generally imply you have that issue yourself - I don't spend my free time searching the internet for problems with the Flex 2 or Moto x Hopefully when more and more people get their devices we can start to paint a bigger picture about this whole situation.
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I'd beg to argue the complete opposite - this poll is posted in the general forum, so any S6 Edge owner will come across it. Compared to the g+ poll, where you'd have to search pretty heavily to find it (at least in my case) which would generally imply you have that issue yourself - I don't spend my free time searching the internet for problems with the Flex 2 or Moto x Hopefully when more and more people get their devices we can start to paint a bigger picture about this whole situation.
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yeah you have a point there.
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I'd beg to argue the complete opposite - this poll is posted in the general forum, so any S6 Edge owner will come across it. Compared to the g+ poll, where you'd have to search pretty heavily to find it (at least in my case) which would generally imply you have that issue yourself - I don't spend my free time searching the internet for problems with the Flex 2 or Moto x Hopefully when more and more people get their devices we can start to paint a bigger picture about this whole situation.
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The poll is critically flawed however.
It presumes those voting actually have an S6 Edge.
The fact anyone can tick yes or no without validating they actually have an S6 Edge makes any result scientifically untenable.
Anything so open to abuse without validation of proof will never be capable of truly being representative, or accurate. In a court of law, your evidence would be inadmissible.
Additionally it assumes that equal amount of people who get good and bad devices would be looking at a thread for pre-scratched screens when history as proved that those people with issues are far more likely to search and find threads than those which do not have issues with their device. It's called the distortion field of truth.
So as interesting as poll results like this are - they sadly will never ever be really indicative of a whole.
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The poll is critically flawed however.
It presumes those voting actually have an S6 Edge.
The fact anyone can tick yes or no without validating they actually have an S6 Edge makes any result scientifically untenable.
Anything so open to abuse without validation of proof will never be capable of truly being representative, or accurate. In a court of law, your evidence would be inadmissible.
Additionally it assumes that equal amount of people who get good and bad devices would be looking at a thread for pre-scratched screens when history as proved that those people with issues are far more likely to search and find threads than those which do not have issues with their device. It's called the distortion field of truth.
So as interesting as poll results like this are - they sadly will never ever be really indicative of a whole.
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You may be right but I find it interesting it has been a steady 70 to 30 ratio since the first 10 votes. I did not expect such a steady result.
nookcoloruser said:
The poll is critically flawed however.
It presumes those voting actually have an S6 Edge.
The fact anyone can tick yes or no without validating they actually have an S6 Edge makes any result scientifically untenable.
Anything so open to abuse without validation of proof will never be capable of truly being representative, or accurate. In a court of law, your evidence would be inadmissible.
Additionally it assumes that equal amount of people who get good and bad devices would be looking at a thread for pre-scratched screens when history as proved that those people with issues are far more likely to search and find threads than those which do not have issues with their device. It's called the distortion field of truth.
So as interesting as poll results like this are - they sadly will never ever be really indicative of a whole.
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I never said these polls are completely accurate and I completely agree with what you're saying. But since there's no easy way to ensure people who are voting actually have the device, I feel like it's better to have some poll going than have nothing at all, because I highly doubt Samsung will have users "take a survey".
And maybe it's just me, but I still seem to have just *a little* faith in humanity - I like to think that people aren't being complete a-holes and ruining the polls just for fun -_-
Sadly one more for the yes choice.
Make sure you guys look at the screen under sunlight. I thought mine was perfectly fine in-store.
My phone, as well as my father's phone, both SM-G925i 64gb one black and one white, purchased in New Zealand, are fine and have no scratches on the screen out of the box.