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Please i mean PLEASE stop spamming the forums!

Take this how ever you want, but i think it's time to start using the search and stop spamming the same questions over and over again.
For example, look at the threads of all the leaked firmwares, they are full of crap. Same questions asked in every page over and over again in every firmware leak.
Pathetic.
Other example would be about flashing the firmware, c'mon SON, read the sticky posts already. No you didn't brick your phone, stop panicking.
Sorry to fill the forums with this rant, but JESUS, PLEASE.

Can only agree with you. Nothing else.

I agree completely. Getting tired of the "How do I flash this?" question. I mean for f**k sake. If you even consider flashing a device, then read the excellent sticky's made. They explain every single thing in detail.

Hear hear! The more I see this crap the more I think of the movie "Idiocracy" and think this **** might be happening now.

this thread is spam.... just saying. The people that cause the problems probably won't find this thread just like they cannot find the other ones.

I miss you MooseFist.
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I agree my man...

Is normal, too many here are getting overly excited about the test firmwares.

Agreed, why can't people do some research for themselves?

clutter. can we get this deleted?

this topic should have been in the General subforum, along with all those other things mentioned above.
but yes, it's true, new people joining XDA forums are not using the search.
i don't have MOD power, else i'll help merging all the same related topics peoples keeps making over and over again.

This needs to be here.

Sure This need to be here.
Most Important Thread i ever seen in SGS forums
I dont know what mods r doing here in this forum. They just let people to fight each other instead of call it quit.
Worst moderators i ever seen in any forums
Shame

I think the search function should be improved.

2nd post OP rule & remove 30 second search limitation please
buddy01 said:
Take this how ever you want, but i think it's time to start using the search and stop spamming the same questions over and over again.
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I do not understand a post like this.
Firstly, anyone who is too lazy/thick/confused/unlucky to not find the info they need before posting is CERTAINLY NOT going to be reading this thread, so all it does is spread your anger on the forum, which is not helpful or pleasant.
Secondly, before anyone can complain about people who do not search, XDA must remove the 30 seconds per search limitation. I have often not found something I want after two or three searches, get tired of waiting for another 30 seconds and then post a question. Im sure this happens to a LOT of the people you are flaming.
Thirdly, I really dont like this culture of arrogant snobbery that a some experienced users/cooks show on xda, its a lot like high school bullying, where a group of people "in the know" put down those lazy/thick/confused/unlucky ones who are not intentionally TRYING to be annoying, they are just lazy/thick/confused/unlucky... so collectively being pissed with them is really for your gratification, not for the good of xda.
Lastly, I'd like xda to also make an OP's rule that the second or third post in a thread is a summary of all the gotchas, tips, warnings, findings... all the stuff that you would never see if you were faced with a 2000 page thread!
tx
Mark.

This in itself is a useless thread, and i feel dirty posting here. However, since the people you are complaining about do not read, then they obviously aren't going to read this are they. A post like this is troll bait tbh.
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Some people feel if they haven't posted a reply every 2-3 minutes, they haven't really browsed a forum. What the OP says is right.

It is not the goal of a forum to be a place where we can post questions ?
I understand that sometimes it's very annoying to see the same question 10 times again and again, but come on.... We were all newbies one day, with a question that maybe we searched before, and didn't find anything revelant/working, don't you think ?
Furthermore, it's the same problem on every (big?) forum you'll browse. Will you post such thing everywhere ?
I can agree about people posting in wrong section (ie, all in Dev forums to be more seen). Exemple : Your post. Nothing to do in dev.
So before asking people to follow rules, start by following it yourself...
Useless thread.

fredphoesh said:
Thirdly, I really dont like this culture of arrogant snobbery that a some experienced users/cooks show on xda
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@OP For me personally, reading a question multiple times is actually far less agitating than reading your aggressive unnecessary and above all self-righteous tantrum.
If this issue really bothers you that much that it leaves you feeling sad, aggressive and hateful of anybody that dares to ask for help, I suggest you seek professional psychiatric help.
EDIT: As mentioned earlier you posted this thread in the wrong section. Hahahahahaha ROFL. Geez man, who peed in your cheerios?!

This thread itself is in fact worse than these annoying annoying questions msung complained about. If a thread really bothers you just report it and be on your way.
I agree that removing the 30 second search delay would help. 10 seconds is more reasonable.
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Rant

I've been lurking here for awhile and only recently have been paying close attention since getting an EVO. This is a general rant and obviously cant be applied to every person and Im not saying at all that the forum is not a good resource but....
This forum is by far THE worst i have seen with reposts and redundant questions. Its ridiculous... you get literally 10 threads on the first page with the same topic, and within a thread you get the same question being asked and answered literally 3 posts away from the last time. How is a forum that is supposed to be technical THIS bad with simple reading!?
Threads are basically useless past the first post because because its hundreds of pages of repeated questions after.
For god's sake people, READ. I dont care how excites you are about finding out something everyone else already knew, check to see if theres a thread already. And stop asking questions that have been answered a hundred times already.
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I agree 100%!
I think when you first sign up there should be like a 4 day waiting period before you are allowed your first post. This way, either they will start reading and find the solution or leave and we won't have to worry about it.
EDIT: I know this doesn't apply to people already registered but most are people with low post counts who post repeated topics.

churchwin88 said:
I agree 100%!
I think when you first sign up there should be like a 4 day waiting period before you are allowed your first post. This way, either they will start reading and find the solution or leave and we won't have to worry about it.
EDIT: I know this doesn't apply to people already registered but most are people with low post counts who post repeated topics.
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That is a pretty good idea you just came up with there!

Frankly this forum has turned to trash which is why most of the serious posters don't even bother with it.

Aridon said:
Frankly this forum has turned to trash which is why most of the serious posters don't even bother with it.
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Then where do those serious posters post?

yeah there are waaay to many people who basically just want someone else to do everything for them, and dont want to actually search for themselves. frankly i think its US the people who know how to use a forum properly, that should NOT be paying attention to these people. i wish people would just not respond to all those lazy people who just want to be spoonfed on what to do. if you think our evo forum is bad lol imagine if we had an IPHONE forum LOL

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if you think our evo forum is bad lol imagine if we had an IPHONE forum LOL
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Thanks, now I am going to have nightmares.

yeah i mean i pretty much almost never go into the Q&A section, and general section because 90% of whats in there is a bunch "i dont know how to do this please tell me how" probably because those people never finished their freshman year in college and actually learned how to do proper research... but oh well, i mean the only forum i check is the development one, it seems to slowly be getting better and better. very slowly.

I agree with the OP, however, this is simply a side effect from the forum hitting the mainstream. At almost 3 million users, it is simply impossible not to get these kinds of people. The development forum is a lot better though since it's better curated.
I've learned to simply ignore it and move along. Trust me, it could be way worse.

how do i root my phone... I'm kidding of course
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I think I know how to clean up the redundant threads a little bit.
The forum administrator could change the input field for naming your new thread into a hidden Google search box!
So then people type their new topic into the box and WHAMMO suddenly there is >3,000,000 solutions right in their face before they even begin to start writing the body of the post.
The thread starter must then click on a minimum number of links from the googled solutions before they are allowed to actually post their question with a new thread!
Problem solved....

Unfortunately, the search in the XDA app sux.
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the problem is it's frustrating for everyone.
and also not to point fingers but there's only one way to really curb the problem.
More information available more easily.
Better more acccurate more updated Wiki or compilation of ALL the basics.
Also, for everyone that starts a thread you need to put in more details, Sometimes I'm amazed at how a developer can master putting everything for the phone together and then post a thread saying..... Here's my rom WEE clicky here, done.
DETAILS install, how to when where what, update and keep things updated.
most of the stuff I can navigate threw myself and thats fine but sometimes theres like 300 pages and your getting no where, if your the thread starter and you add something important to the conversation mid thread, edit your first post.
As far as people posting stupid VERY simple repetitive questions, just try and search it first please, ugh.

I agree with the xda app search sucks.. i get low data speed here in wisconsin usually 30kb/s or under so dont use the internet for the site.. the search should be able to sure certain forums that would help alot of people out who do actually use the search but hard finding it with the app search..
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Also alot of people dont word the topic right or even have what they are asking about.. like today someone put... help!. Had good info on radios but someone thats looking up the same thing wont run into it.
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Now that I think about it, the hardest thing to do is run through a 200 page topic and actually pull useful information out of it. An example:
The first 500 replys are:
First!
downloading...
Will DL when I get home...
Downloading now
ect, ect for 500 pages
Then you finally get to the meat of the topic when you no longer see "downloading now" and you start to see "my 4gee's no workie" for another 150 pages only to realize that the answer to all of those questions was in the OP that nobody read!
This cycle goes on and on and it's nearly impossible to gather intelligence from chaos like that.

this is probably the 10th topic about this....just sayin

In your third paragraph, you repeated yourself by saying "because" twice. Practice what you preach. If you think you can do it better, go start your own forum.
I'm just bs'ing/being a smartass. You are okay to have your opinion. I can understand when a person gets in a mood and needs to rant to vent some frustrations. You may also have some valid points.
My parting thought:
It can be said in many different ways. Instead of complaining about something you don't agree with or like, might I make a suggestion to volunteer yourself to make things better. Trying to focus on solutions instead of problems.
Don't get me wrong. I'm no saint. Some people really irritate the crap out of me too, plus, I know I'm not mr personality either.
The mods have their hands full (I'm sure that's an understatement). If you can do your good deed for the day and help out a newb, then you are giving back.
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This forum desperately needs more moderation. I messaged toast over a month ago with this suggestion and offered my help as I have moderated other forums. He never even bothered to respond.
For a tech forum,moderation is the difference between good and lousy. Self policing can only go so far.
As for the search, there is no problem with it. VB is the most popular forum software for a reason. It works very well. Pro tip: 99% of your searches should be title only.

Mad06STi said:
I've been lurking here for awhile and only recently have been paying close attention since getting an EVO. This is a general rant and obviously cant be applied to every person and Im not saying at all that the forum is not a good resource but....
This forum is by far THE worst i have seen with reposts and redundant questions. Its ridiculous... you get literally 10 threads on the first page with the same topic, and within a thread you get the same question being asked and answered literally 3 posts away from the last time. How is a forum that is supposed to be technical THIS bad with simple reading!?
Threads are basically useless past the first post because because its hundreds of pages of repeated questions after.
For god's sake people, READ. I dont care how excites you are about finding out something everyone else already knew, check to see if theres a thread already. And stop asking questions that have been answered a hundred times already.
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The big problem is when people get their EVO, they realize their battery lasts 20 minutes out of the box. They then get on google and try to find out how to increase their battery life. They find an article on some douchebag blog talking about rooting their phone. These people then google rooting their phone and all signs point to XDA. Sometimes they know a guy or have a friend of a friend who told them to "root" their phone, skipping the first step.
This is exactly why there are 100 repeated questions/threads. Everyone is directed to this website from various other websites. So you will get people who want instant answers and don't want to wade through tons of replies/text.

*** Was your thread recently deleted? Read on to find out why ***

If you suddenly cannot find your thread in Vibrant General, it is because I deleted it. Along with over 60 total in the last 2 hours. There is no need for everybody to create a NEW thread related to the release of Froyo OTA for the Vibrant.
Anyone not following this simple request will receive an infraction for the first offense, and then a forum ban for future offenses.
Thank you for your cooperation,
NATF

While I understand that point behind it, you deleted the first REAL thread about its release - that you would need to be on kies mini to receive it, that is what I do not understand. That, and the 5 posts about it on the first page of the DEV section that are still there.

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While I understand that point behind it, you deleted the first REAL thread about its release - that you would need to be on kies mini to receive it, that is what I do not understand.
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Agree.
10char

There is no reason why a new thread has to be created because it has been released. The "Froyo coming tomorrow" thread can be used for this purpose, and that OP (or myself) can edit the title accordingly.

There are 7 multi-page kies ota threads on the 1st page of the general section, if this was done for the reason stated, why were those left in place. I never saw a notice posted that any exciting news would be deleted.
EDIT: KA6 must have a new feature because in lieu of a response, I actually heard crickets..

+1 these mods are taking advantage he probably has a galaxy amd hasn't got the update yet
jellette said:
There are 7 multi-page kies ota threads on the 1st page of the general section, if this was done for the reason stated, why were those left in place. I never saw a notice posted that any exciting news would be deleted.
EDIT: KA6 must have a new feature because in lieu of a response, I actually heard crickets..
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My two cents: Not only is this policy being applied inconsistently, but it's not being done with any reasoned judgment behind the decisions. Jellette's thread was legit IMO--it was helpful and informative and the topic deserved a clean break from the Froyo anticipation thread. ("Froyo is here" /= "They said Froyo is coming").

Let me preface this by saying I think the mods do an exceptional job here, with that said...
I personally believe it is wiser to be fair, rather than consistent. I am not advocating special treatment for Heathen, but given his contributions in the past, present and future... perhaps deletion of his (or any other key contributors) thread should be met with a higher level of scrutiny.
Just my $.02

So umm why were all the thread not just merged? unless there was a bunch of rules being broken I fail to see the reason to delete threads when there is a thread merger tool in the mod control panel.

I do not have a Vibrant, regardless of what TL chooses to believe. As for why certain threads were removed and others were not, that is because I haven't gotten to them yet. After deleting 60+ threads, I needed a break.

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I do not have a Vibrant, regardless of what TL chooses to believe. As for why certain threads were removed and others were not, that is because I haven't gotten to them yet. After deleting 60+ threads, I needed a break.
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The job you guys do is not an enviable task... and I think you guys get it right 99.999% of the time. I just think that you guys can exercise a higher level of discretion when it comes to deleting the post of a quality contributor... especially given context.

You think we can lock this thread now? It is obvious that there will be neither any progress towards to a resolution of an unevenly distributed unwritten policy made, nor will there be a retraction made by the Mod, and this is only going to end in an even more unfair refraction or banning.

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You think we can lock this thread now? It is obvious that there will be neither any progress towards to a resolution of an unevenly distributed unwritten policy made, nor will there be a retraction made by the Mod, and this is only going to end in an even more unfair refraction or banning.
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I will close this thread in a few minutes. However, in the interest of compromise, you can create a new discussion thread. If you want to, and I will not close/delete it. However, this is with the understanding that any other threads, regardless of who the OP is, will be removed without notice.
Fair compromise?

To be honest, I pushed my boundries a little here. I will respect your original decision and not repost a new topic. I understand, really, with the flood of posts that came through that there was no way to determine what was what.
I believe my respecting your decision is a more appropriate compromise.

Thats awesome, everyone *****ed at me for criticizing the over-whining thats been going on...thanks for cleaning it up!
I cant believe you guys have the audacity to criticize the mod for deleting them....there have been dozens threads started in the last week ALONE about lack-of-froyo/screw-samsung/froyo-ota
no one knows how to stick with one thread anymore, there is absolutely no need for the first page of the vibrant general forum to consist of all similar topics...NONE....who the hell cares who started the first one, this isnt a popularity contest, the OP didnt release the OTA...samsung did...one dedicated thread is all we need because all of these threads say the same damn thing

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Thats awesome, everyone *****ed at me for criticizing the over-whining thats been going on...thanks for cleaning it up!
I cant believe you guys have the audacity to criticize the mod for deleting them....there have been alomst 20 threads started in the last week about lack-of-froyo/screw-samsung/froyo-ota
no one knows how to stick with one thread anymore, there is absolutely no need for the first page of the vibrant general forum to consist of all similar topics...NONE
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That seems to be kind of an inflamatory response. I'm trying to show respect for the mod at this point and concede.

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That seems to be kind of an inflamatory response. I'm trying to show respect for the mod at this point and concede.
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i realize that, but why does it matter who started the original thread (if we can even pinpoint that), again its not a popularity contest. im not trying to attack you, but it just seemed like the mod was getting ripped for doing exactly what he is supposed to do.....to complain that he deleted the "original thread" just doesnt make sense, as long as there is a dedicated thread that should be the only concern

My thread was meant to be humorous and is not directly related to the update yet it got deleted

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Thats awesome, everyone *****ed at me for criticizing the over-whining thats been going on...thanks for cleaning it up!
I cant believe you guys have the audacity to criticize the mod for deleting them....there have been dozens threads started in the last week ALONE about lack-of-froyo/screw-samsung/froyo-ota
no one knows how to stick with one thread anymore, there is absolutely no need for the first page of the vibrant general forum to consist of all similar topics...NONE....who the hell cares who started the first one, this isnt a popularity contest, the OP didnt release the OTA...samsung did...one dedicated thread is all we need because all of these threads say the same damn thing
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i realize that, but why does it matter who started the original thread (if we can even pinpoint that), again its not a popularity contest. im not trying to attack you, but it just seemed like the mod was getting ripped for doing exactly what he is supposed to do.....
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He was getting ripped and it wasnt fair. Even less fair was him aggreeing to compromise in the end. That is why I wanted to put this thing to rest.

jellette said:
He was getting ripped and it wasnt fair. Even less fair was him aggreeing to compromise in the end. That is why I wanted to put this thing to rest.
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sorry i flipped out, i kind of took my frustration out on you. it was so annoying to see a new froyo thread pop up every 2 hours. and the humor ones are just as bad^^^^
the reason its important is because its not fair to members who are posting unique threads, some who need help with problems, to have their threads get buried almost instantaneously beneath these duplicate, garbage, unproductive threads. and i support and applaud the mod who finally cracked down on this.
nothing personal to you man, just explaining why i kind of freaked out.

The quality of Modmanship.............

Is none of my concern.
Delete thread please?

Its a very very fine line between being a good administrator and being a clown.
I own a forum with over 2500 members (very small, but thats the way we like it), and am an admin on three others.
I give my mods pretty much free reign to do as they wish, BUT I often find myself going back and cleaning up messes.
It is very important for the continuity of information that threads be kept in the appropriate section. It would have taken less time to simply move this thread than to answer the way that he did.
But as I said, its a rough life as a mod/admin. No pay, no appreciation in most cases, and it does nothing but anger the family...
Take it easy on the guy, he really is just trying to do what he thinks is best for the community. Unless his post was edited, I see absolutely nothing offensive about it. In fact, this thread is more offensive than the one you are referencing.

Ja, you are right about some things. But it should have just been moved.Different viewpoints. I also mod a forum, sorry that this thread offended you, but i got offended seeing a relative newcomer get the cold shoulder when asking nicely.
That is more offensive.
Going to delete the content of original post. My time of the month.
Rant over
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Right ok.....
First of all, yes I acted like a ****.
In my defence I'm having to move at least 10 threads a day from general to q&a... despite a sticky and a forum announcement explaining that questions should not be posted here.
When I realised that the thread your talking about was posted by a new member I'm pretty sure I unlocked it and moved it to q&a....
I can't promise I'll pay the same courtesy to members who should know better though.
I have spent the past two weeks moving every [Q] thread that appeared but unfortunately that doesn't help to get the message across.
Like I said, I guess I was being a **** but then again I'm just trying to keep this place tidy for everyone's benefit and if I have to make that point by locking a few threads here and there then I will.
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Okay.... looks like I didn't unlock the thread and move it. I have now.
Op, feel free to redo your first post if you want. It was a valid point.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face......

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Right ok.....
First of all, yes I acted like a ****.
In my defence I'm having to move at least 10 threads a day from general to q&a... despite a sticky and a forum announcement explaining that questions should not be posted here.
When I realised that the thread your talking about was posted by a new member I'm pretty sure I unlocked it and moved it to q&a....
I can't promise I'll pay the same courtesy to members who should know better though.
I have spent the past two weeks moving every [Q] thread that appeared but unfortunately that doesn't help to get the message across.
Like I said, I guess I was being a **** but then again I'm just trying to keep this place tidy for everyone's benefit and if I have to make that point by locking a few threads here and there then I will.
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You dont have to explain a thing bud, Its the idiots who cant read that we should be complain about not the mods doing their job.
Alot of people including myself are sick and tired of crap getting posted in wrong places, its really irritating and tbh stickies or announcements shouldn't even need to be made, its pretty much common sense and anybody with half of a brain can see which section which kind of topic goes in and which it doesn't. Obviously though we get some people who either cant grasp this concept who are just too lazy to read forum titles.

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You dont have to explain a thing bud, Its the idiots who cant read that we should be complain about not the mods doing their job.
Alot of people including myself are sick and tired of crap getting posted in wrong places, its really irritating and tbh stickies or announcements shouldn't even need to be made, its pretty much common sense and anybody with half of a brain can see which section which kind of topic goes in and which it doesn't. Obviously though we get some people who either cant grasp this concept who are just too lazy to read forum titles.
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Tbh, I agree with you. Nothing worse when someone just types out a question, about something that is probably answered just two threads below.
conantroutman, sorry matey, I didnt mean to have a go at you personally. Had ****ty day too. I do apologise, sincerely. As for redoing the first post, Nah, it IS none of my concern. I really dont mind if you delete/close this thread.

No problem man, dont sweat it......
Im not gonna delete the thread as some may see it as me "covering my tracks".
I will however close it and leave it with the declaration that;
If anyone, for any reason has an issue with the a decision I make in regards to moderating the forums then please feel free to PM me and let me know.
Your statutory rights will not be affected

less closed thread plz

hi mods plz dont close threads too early .we`re gonna discus but you dont let us just w8 until a flame war happen then ban ppl dont close whole thread
hope you`ll do it!

i think they want the forum to close lol

Lesser nonsensical opened thread = lesser closed threads.

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agree...

``Delayed update`` made x10 users so angry they just want to fight doesnt matter who is it i think banning the angry mans is best way to control forum not close thread

I agree and asked the same question to a moderator last night. I felt like the problem revolved around a couple senior members, not the entire forum. The mod made a good point. In the past they have tried just banning individuals, but another one pops up in his place. They need to send a message to everyone. Once things calm down, I bet they will back off. Everyone just needs to behave.

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I agree and asked the same question to a moderator last night. I felt like the problem revolved around a couple senior members, not the entire forum. The mod made a good point. In the past they have tried just banning individuals, but another one pops up in his place. They need to send a message to everyone. Once things calm down, I bet they will back off. Everyone just needs to behave.
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I agree, but I am not sure I can eliminate the issue to particular members, senior or junior. There is a general temperament and hostility in almost every new thread and in some older too. Maybe closing threads is harsh, but if we want to be honest, X10 forums have become unbearable last couple of weeks. I feel we left moderators with no other choice.
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I still think that banning is more effective than just locking.
Let's take my pinned Gingerbread update thread for example. I woke up to it today being locked, and I have no idea what caused it, but I do have a hunch to who are the people who caused the flame war and forced the mods to lock it.
Instead of locking the thread (now I can't even edit the OP anymore, so I lose my intention of the thread to keep an updated post on the GB update), it would be better to ban those members. Now, there will be even more spam threads as people post their own gingerbread threads, since mine, which was considered the main one, is locked. More spam=more flaming=more fighting=more locks.
It's a vicious cycle but I feel that banning will be more effective and send a point across.

i knew someone would start another thread, did say this to pilot. feel was harsh, as nothing had been said in the thread. If you take that stance as pilot said, stop it before it starts, then you could close every thread going that has someone stating something different to another.

Agreed !! +1

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I still think that banning is more effective than just locking.
Let's take my pinned Gingerbread update thread for example. I woke up to it today being locked, and I have no idea what caused it, but I do have a hunch to who are the people who caused the flame war and forced the mods to lock it.
Instead of locking the thread (now I can't even edit the OP anymore, so I lose my intention of the thread to keep an updated post on the GB update), it would be better to ban those members. Now, there will be even more spam threads as people post their own gingerbread threads, since mine, which was considered the main one, is locked. More spam=more flaming=more fighting=more locks.
It's a vicious cycle but I feel that banning will be more effective and send a point across.
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I think PILOT said you aren't restricted in that thread, just everyone else.
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Since You people cant discuss anything without lowering yourselves to arguing and crying ive locked this thread
The OP can still update but you cant ***** at each other
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I think PILOT said you aren't restricted in that thread, just everyone else.
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no I tried...no edit option avaliable.

ok
as my job as moderator i have to sometime preemptively guess if the thread is going to go in the flame war direction. thats my job. its something the admin has asked me to do
i closed a thread about tripnraver because they are guaranteed to turn nasty.
and got complaints. tripnraver is no longer at the this forums that was his choice and he doesnt want stuff of his posted here. also whenever some one does it turns nasty
i closed a thread about the 2.3 update. because i was getting a few dozen complaints per day about this. so it wasnt a discussion as some of you claim
it had been cleaned out a total of fours time by myself and other mods. and you will still not learn
the op of this thread should not have posted it. if he had concerns he should have pm'd me so i can pm him back. otherwise this thread will be full of "oh those moderators theyre asked to look after a forum and whaddya know they close thread destined to spiral into flame wars. stupid mods"
op of 2.3 thread im still looking at a way for you to update first post
all in all if you dont want to my close threads stop posting drivel everywhere. my_immortal was right i have no other option
if you have an issue with me losing a thread pm me or email me
and if you still think i was wrong for stopping arguements then feel free to pm mikechannon or svetius