If you suddenly cannot find your thread in Vibrant General, it is because I deleted it. Along with over 60 total in the last 2 hours. There is no need for everybody to create a NEW thread related to the release of Froyo OTA for the Vibrant.
Anyone not following this simple request will receive an infraction for the first offense, and then a forum ban for future offenses.
Thank you for your cooperation,
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While I understand that point behind it, you deleted the first REAL thread about its release - that you would need to be on kies mini to receive it, that is what I do not understand. That, and the 5 posts about it on the first page of the DEV section that are still there.
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While I understand that point behind it, you deleted the first REAL thread about its release - that you would need to be on kies mini to receive it, that is what I do not understand.
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There is no reason why a new thread has to be created because it has been released. The "Froyo coming tomorrow" thread can be used for this purpose, and that OP (or myself) can edit the title accordingly.
There are 7 multi-page kies ota threads on the 1st page of the general section, if this was done for the reason stated, why were those left in place. I never saw a notice posted that any exciting news would be deleted.
EDIT: KA6 must have a new feature because in lieu of a response, I actually heard crickets..
+1 these mods are taking advantage he probably has a galaxy amd hasn't got the update yet
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There are 7 multi-page kies ota threads on the 1st page of the general section, if this was done for the reason stated, why were those left in place. I never saw a notice posted that any exciting news would be deleted.
EDIT: KA6 must have a new feature because in lieu of a response, I actually heard crickets..
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My two cents: Not only is this policy being applied inconsistently, but it's not being done with any reasoned judgment behind the decisions. Jellette's thread was legit IMO--it was helpful and informative and the topic deserved a clean break from the Froyo anticipation thread. ("Froyo is here" /= "They said Froyo is coming").
Let me preface this by saying I think the mods do an exceptional job here, with that said...
I personally believe it is wiser to be fair, rather than consistent. I am not advocating special treatment for Heathen, but given his contributions in the past, present and future... perhaps deletion of his (or any other key contributors) thread should be met with a higher level of scrutiny.
Just my $.02
So umm why were all the thread not just merged? unless there was a bunch of rules being broken I fail to see the reason to delete threads when there is a thread merger tool in the mod control panel.
I do not have a Vibrant, regardless of what TL chooses to believe. As for why certain threads were removed and others were not, that is because I haven't gotten to them yet. After deleting 60+ threads, I needed a break.
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I do not have a Vibrant, regardless of what TL chooses to believe. As for why certain threads were removed and others were not, that is because I haven't gotten to them yet. After deleting 60+ threads, I needed a break.
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The job you guys do is not an enviable task... and I think you guys get it right 99.999% of the time. I just think that you guys can exercise a higher level of discretion when it comes to deleting the post of a quality contributor... especially given context.
You think we can lock this thread now? It is obvious that there will be neither any progress towards to a resolution of an unevenly distributed unwritten policy made, nor will there be a retraction made by the Mod, and this is only going to end in an even more unfair refraction or banning.
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You think we can lock this thread now? It is obvious that there will be neither any progress towards to a resolution of an unevenly distributed unwritten policy made, nor will there be a retraction made by the Mod, and this is only going to end in an even more unfair refraction or banning.
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I will close this thread in a few minutes. However, in the interest of compromise, you can create a new discussion thread. If you want to, and I will not close/delete it. However, this is with the understanding that any other threads, regardless of who the OP is, will be removed without notice.
Fair compromise?
To be honest, I pushed my boundries a little here. I will respect your original decision and not repost a new topic. I understand, really, with the flood of posts that came through that there was no way to determine what was what.
I believe my respecting your decision is a more appropriate compromise.
Thats awesome, everyone *****ed at me for criticizing the over-whining thats been going on...thanks for cleaning it up!
I cant believe you guys have the audacity to criticize the mod for deleting them....there have been dozens threads started in the last week ALONE about lack-of-froyo/screw-samsung/froyo-ota
no one knows how to stick with one thread anymore, there is absolutely no need for the first page of the vibrant general forum to consist of all similar topics...NONE....who the hell cares who started the first one, this isnt a popularity contest, the OP didnt release the OTA...samsung did...one dedicated thread is all we need because all of these threads say the same damn thing
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Thats awesome, everyone *****ed at me for criticizing the over-whining thats been going on...thanks for cleaning it up!
I cant believe you guys have the audacity to criticize the mod for deleting them....there have been alomst 20 threads started in the last week about lack-of-froyo/screw-samsung/froyo-ota
no one knows how to stick with one thread anymore, there is absolutely no need for the first page of the vibrant general forum to consist of all similar topics...NONE
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That seems to be kind of an inflamatory response. I'm trying to show respect for the mod at this point and concede.
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That seems to be kind of an inflamatory response. I'm trying to show respect for the mod at this point and concede.
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i realize that, but why does it matter who started the original thread (if we can even pinpoint that), again its not a popularity contest. im not trying to attack you, but it just seemed like the mod was getting ripped for doing exactly what he is supposed to do.....to complain that he deleted the "original thread" just doesnt make sense, as long as there is a dedicated thread that should be the only concern
My thread was meant to be humorous and is not directly related to the update yet it got deleted
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Thats awesome, everyone *****ed at me for criticizing the over-whining thats been going on...thanks for cleaning it up!
I cant believe you guys have the audacity to criticize the mod for deleting them....there have been dozens threads started in the last week ALONE about lack-of-froyo/screw-samsung/froyo-ota
no one knows how to stick with one thread anymore, there is absolutely no need for the first page of the vibrant general forum to consist of all similar topics...NONE....who the hell cares who started the first one, this isnt a popularity contest, the OP didnt release the OTA...samsung did...one dedicated thread is all we need because all of these threads say the same damn thing
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i realize that, but why does it matter who started the original thread (if we can even pinpoint that), again its not a popularity contest. im not trying to attack you, but it just seemed like the mod was getting ripped for doing exactly what he is supposed to do.....
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He was getting ripped and it wasnt fair. Even less fair was him aggreeing to compromise in the end. That is why I wanted to put this thing to rest.
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He was getting ripped and it wasnt fair. Even less fair was him aggreeing to compromise in the end. That is why I wanted to put this thing to rest.
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sorry i flipped out, i kind of took my frustration out on you. it was so annoying to see a new froyo thread pop up every 2 hours. and the humor ones are just as bad^^^^
the reason its important is because its not fair to members who are posting unique threads, some who need help with problems, to have their threads get buried almost instantaneously beneath these duplicate, garbage, unproductive threads. and i support and applaud the mod who finally cracked down on this.
nothing personal to you man, just explaining why i kind of freaked out.
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Ok, so as I was reading though the DC 2.06 thread trying to gain some knowledge and figure out any bugs/workarounds/tips/tricks I got to page 30 something and just had to post this.
PLEASE
PLEASE
PLEASE
Stop posting USELESS, POINTLESS, BLOATING, POSTS!!!
I'm not trying to be hostile or anything but posts like....
"booting it now!" and "waiting for files to copy back to my sd card." and "I'm only 50% downloaded, can't wait!!"
While yes... it's good you are excited, but honestly, 99% of us don't give a damn. It makes it freakin' IMPOSSIBLE to navigate through this forum!!! And I don't want to hear anybody cry "Search" either. vBulletin search is NOT the best out there. I think yahoo Boolean searches from 1997 were better. And you have to search with the most basic of keywords, and those keywords (like apps2sd) are used in so many POINTLESS posts that its again, USELESS.
I mean, there is basically NO moderation here. It's like XDA Hero CDMA forums isn't even here. Things just run amock.
Sorry if this post came off as a bit hard, but come on. I mean, COME ON. Let's ALL work together to make this forum a little easier to find information. Is your post asking a question or adding anything to the community? No? Then think twice about posting in a [ROM] thread. I know the Devs appreciate the positive re-inforcement of their ROMs and they deserve it! However I dont think ROM threads are the place for that, NOT ONLY THAT, but when threads such as DC's start as a 2.0 and then are updated to 2.1 then 2.2 then 2.3 etc etc etc and the original post of the thread is changed instead of creating a new thread, so therefor the first 200 pages aren't even remotely relevant to 2.3 they're still from 2.0!
Ok, I'm sorry...
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i'm not trying to be hostile or anything, and i don't have anything against this or you, but really.
there have been so many threads JUST like this before. they all say the same thing.
in the end, they become one of those 'useless' posts, because no matter how many times you say this, its probably not going to stop people from making useless posts. sorry
AGREED! And it didn't come of hard to me!
Plus, those posts are more useful than this one. At least they give the dev, who worked for hours or days or months on the ROM, the satisfaction of knowing people appreciate it.
This post, on the other hand, accomplishes nothing.
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i'm not trying to be hostile or anything, and i don't have anything against this or you, but really.
there have been so many threads JUST like this before. they all say the same thing.
in the end, they become one of those 'useless' posts, because no matter how many times you say this, its probably not going to stop people from making useless posts. sorry
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Then somebody give me some damn moderation powers and I'll click that delete button all day long.
I moderate 3 other vBulletin forums. Mainly car forums, with 50,000+ members. I have no problem keeping them clean, and would not mind spending some of that time over here too. Hell even if I'm the only one doing it that's better than nothing!
thats definitely the worst thing about this forum. we don't have any active mods on this one. most other forums do. not us.
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Plus, those posts are more useful than this one. At least they give the dev, who worked for hours or days or months on the ROM, the satisfaction of knowing people appreciate it.
This post, on the other hand, accomplishes nothing.
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awesome visited the forums at exactly the right time it seems..downloading now
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Downloading now. Thanks!!!
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You get my point?
Ok, you said your thanks.... time for CONSOLIDATION!
Yeah although u are correct in ur intent. The best way to get these issues taken care of is for our forum to get a mod that actually spends time here and doesn't mind being hated. I personally have tried to get them to make me a mod. But I guess u gotta be someone special to get that privilege. As I always do what they ask of me then never here a reply ontheir decision. Our forum is held down by the fact we don't have subforums like general, themes and apps, q&a and so on. But yeah the only way to get are issues resolved is to contact the mods and ask them to help us.
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ROFL This post made me laugh. Its so true, those posts are useless and offer nothing to the Rom maker.
I like the idea of the developers having something like a discuss thread where the good jobs and such can continue be posted for the roms. It becomes pretty difficult looking through the thread to find useful tidbits when it gets to be over 50 pages or so.
I do agree that having a moderator would be of great benefit too. +1 for toast becoming a mod.
U cant fix stupid :-/ people think posts counts make them cool. Posting one word replies followed by 10chars. Itll never be fixed, too many idiots. Just be happy we dont have that gay rep system.
Personally I like treasure hunts, so I am pretty happy the way things are. Lol.
Joking aside, I think that this is one of the strongest online communities/forum that I have joined and cared about. I think that the slack the moderators allow has allot to do with how I feel about this community. People are allowed to have a personality, a opinion, and a sense of humor here. It is very nice to come to a forum like this.
The way I read the long ROM threads is read the first page then go to last page and work my way backwards... works well for me. I see the updates the ROM creator posted and then the latest information being passed along that way.
Thinking about what i read now........ can't wait to finish..
LOL no really i do wish we could kindly ask the Devs to start a new thread upon each major revision and maybe put a link in the new thread to the previous version's tread. then post like mine about may not become as frustrating to read do to the lower volume of them.
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Plus, those posts are more useful than this one. At least they give the dev, who worked for hours or days or months on the ROM, the satisfaction of knowing people appreciate it.
This post, on the other hand, accomplishes nothing.
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Actually he is trying to make this forum more manageable. Which IMO you would have to be blind not to realiese. Seriously 300+ pages are really hard to go though. And sometimes in threads ill see a theme or something cool and ill feel like good thing I read every post in that thread or I wouldnt have that. It feels like some really cool stuff gets barried in the threads.
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Actually he is trying to make this forum more manageable. Which IMO you would have to be blind not to realiese. Seriously 300+ pages are really hard to go though. And sometimes in threads ill see a theme or something cool and ill feel like good thing I read every post in that thread or I wouldnt have that. It feels like some really cool stuff gets barried in the threads.
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Damageless is trying to fix finding updates and themes with his updater tool. The updates will come to you! How cool is that? He is also going to try to help other devs to include a updater on their ROMs. Although this will not fix how cluttered the threads are in this forum it will assist you in finding the latest and greatest ways to trick out your Hero.
the only thing that should change is just every time a fix is found the OP should just take the fix and put it in the first post. People should be able to flash a rom and have the fixes all in the first post, this way people dont ask repeat questions. Whether or not everyone likes it people are always going to post "useless" stuff, which can be viewed as appreciative thanks or just people showing their excitement. I personally like xda a lot because people have personality its not all just straight discussion about a rom or anything like that.
Maybe we just could have a separate subforum for each major ROM? that way there could be the threads for people rambling and such, and separate threads for bug fixes, releases, etc.
I'm new 'round here (obviously), and I have to agree, finding the information I need has been difficult with every thread being hundreds pages. Finding that one post of someone with the same problem as me (and a solution) is a monumental task.
Just give each rom author a thread for people to leave their thanks, and keep the rom threads to discussing the rom.
+frickin1 for this thread. I think we should just start a poll to vote for someone here to be a mod, and just make the current XDA moderators accept that we have that mod... it's just ridiculous how it is right now.
what about in-thread stickies...there has to be a plugin for it somewhere...where you can nominate posts as thread stickies and all of the thread stickies, once approved by the OP, move to the beginning of the thread, so it would go
1st Post: OP
2nd Post: First approved helpful post
3rd Post: 2nd approved.... etc
that way all of the useful stuff will be right on that first page. If it's not already a plugin...it should be.
We have a general section where we can post general stuff about general things, but yet all sorts of threads get moved around for seemingly no reason? Why can't we have a place to actually be a community, instead of just business 24/7 with no play? I mean, yeah there's an off topic thread but that doesn't even come close to suiting the actual need for this section to be left alone.
Other forums have way more of a sense of community than here. I applied to become a mod for this CDMA Hero section and got denied, so I am no longer going to attempt to try to keep the little bit of community and friendship we have left, here. I personally got very sick of seeing too many things get moved around, too much ****-swinging from the moderators here that I was willing to take on the load of this section to try to calm the tensions and everything, but it's just getting out of hand again. There's many other places for people to go to not have to deal with this sort of mess. XDA will learn from the self destruction that the mods are bringing on to it.
Watch, this thread will be deleted and I'll be banned before the end of the day for rebelling against a dictatorship.
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It's called the "general" section for a reason. Even if it's to agree that we all like our hero's better than iCraps that DOES pertain to the hero. I understood the OFF-TOPIC thread to be a place we could go to "play". I never thought the rest of the General Section was to be for discussion about the hero and the hero only.
No disrespect Timmymarsh but I have to ask: Did you merge all those threads because people were complaining about them?
If not then I don't get it...
I mean we're behaving in the other sections right?
on a positive note, the only reason we care so much is because we like this place..
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It's called the "general" section for a reason.
on a positive note, the only reason we care so much is because we like this place..
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Have to quote this for truth. Thanks for your voice, neb.
There is the general off-topic forum in the general section of these forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=261
Yes it is nice to have the Hero users as one community but you need to realize we are part of the bigger community of xda-developers.
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There is the general off-topic forum in the general section of these forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=261
Yes it is nice to have the Hero users as one community but you need to realize we are part of the bigger community of xda-developers.
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I expect mixed feelings on my protest, and of course, I won't be listened to because I am one person, and it wouldnt bother xda if I was here or not, but as long as I am able to, I will call it as i see it.
Who wants to leave the hero area to go surf through too much junk in off topic when us hero people could have our own simple general discussion forum, instead of cramming 1000 threads into one. Pointless to me. But then again I dont have any say so here because this is what's called a dictatorship. Unfortunately I am not a blind sheep that follows whatever someone else decides.
Sounds to me like you got denied to become a mod and now you're all butthurt that the mods are doing their job. Sounds to me like they were right for denying you, if you couldn't step down and take it gracefully. XDA has an off-topic forum. Hero subsection has an offtopic thread. You have to understand, the Admins have to take into consideration amount of bandwidth used, total amount of space, making backups, needing space for backups. There's alot more going on behind the scenes then just "mods are fags."
They're volunteers, and do what needs to be done to insure the forum runs smoothly.
I see everyones point! And Jerry by repeating that you aren't getting heard does make it sound like your vaj-j does have some sand in it. But, I see how you would want a hero community, off topic, bs, section...just for us. But we are part of a bigger community (like someone said) and if we have our own little section in here...we will never go be part of the bigger community. we would be our own cliq. Then turn into a gang and probably go kill everyone in the G1 section for trying to take over our section. Then it would be gang wars not XDA.
East side. Hero for life.
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Sounds to me like you got denied to become a mod and now you're all butthurt that the mods are doing their job. Sounds to me like they were right for denying you, if you couldn't step down and take it gracefully. XDA has an off-topic forum. Hero subsection has an offtopic thread. You have to understand, the Admins have to take into consideration amount of bandwidth used, total amount of space, making backups, needing space for backups. There's alot more going on behind the scenes then just "mods are fags."
They're volunteers, and do what needs to be done to insure the forum runs smoothly.
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I expected some smartass **** to come from you man. Sad but true. No, I'm not butthurt at all. Their loss, not mine, honestly. I tried to step up and take on some of the load from this area alone to try to calm down some of the hostilities here and it jsut proved that it was a waste of time and that moderators here really don't give a damn about us as individual users. They can piss all of us hero people off, except the few **** riders that do exist here, and it wouldn't affect them one bit because they have other forums with sheep there, too.
Give it a few more months, you'll see some crazy **** start to happen. I can see it now.
Meh. Only problem i really see is that the General Section is mostly the same as the Q&A section.
This is by far the most uptight group of folks of all the forums I hang out on. It's cool, you guys do great work. But, man, some of you take ALL of this stuff way too seriously.
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I expected some smartass **** to come from you man. Sad but true. No, I'm not butthurt at all. Their loss, not mine, honestly. I tried to step up and take on some of the load from this area alone to try to calm down some of the hostilities here and it jsut proved that it was a waste of time and that moderators here really don't give a damn about us as individual users. They can piss all of us hero people off, except the few **** riders that do exist here, and it wouldn't affect them one bit because they have other forums with sheep there, too.
Give it a few more months, you'll see some crazy **** start to happen. I can see it now.
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1. If the moderators didn't give a damn, we'd still have a subforum in the GSM section.
2. Wouldn't have a sticky wiki.
3. Wouldn't have this thread
Basically, no mods are not here to serve individual users. They're here to server the community, and if you do have a problem with it, write a petition thread instead of *****ing and moaning, if enough people say they want it, it will go into action. (See point 1)
Seriously though, all this seems to be to me is, you didn't get made a mod, so mods don't care about individual users. I also have to repeat, that since you can't step down gracefully, I support their decision. Look at how long Toast was asking to be a mod for, never saw any threads like this from him, even after he was told no. I respect him for that.
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1. If the moderators didn't give a damn, we'd still have a subforum in the GSM section.
2. Wouldn't have a sticky wiki.
3. Wouldn't have this thread
Basically, no mods are not here to serve individual users. They're here to server the community, and if you do have a problem with it, write a petition thread instead of *****ing and moaning, if enough people say they want it, it will go into action. (See point 1)
Seriously though, all this seems to be to me is, you didn't get made a mod, so mods don't care about individual users. I also have to repeat, that since you can't step down gracefully, I support their decision. Look at how long Toast was asking to be a mod for, never saw any threads like this from him, even after he was told no. I respect him for that.
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Gotta agree with this. Our mods do a good job considering that there are only ~50 of them for the whole site.
Given I would have like to seen my motorola thread continue to live. I thought it was fairly on topic to "General"
You know, if I wanted your **** I would have said, hey come give me ****. But did i? No. Keep twisting peoples words around, keyboard warrior. I am putting you on ignore.
I expected some smartass **** to come from you man. Sad but true. No, I'm not butthurt at all. Their loss, not mine, honestly. I tried to step up and
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1. If the moderators didn't give a damn, we'd still have a subforum in the GSM section.
2. Wouldn't have a sticky wiki.
3. Wouldn't have this thread
Basically, no mods are not here to serve individual users. They're here to server the community, and if you do have a problem with it, write a petition thread instead of *****ing and moaning, if enough people say they want it, it will go into action. (See point 1)
Seriously though, all this seems to be to me is, you didn't get made a mod, so mods don't care about individual users. I also have to repeat, that since you can't step down gracefully, I support their decision. Look at how long Toast was asking to be a mod for, never saw any threads like this from him, even after he was told no. I respect him for that.
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Blah blah blah no one cares unless its a free evo giveaway
You know, if I wanted your **** I would have said, hey come give me ****. But did i? No. Keep twisting peoples words around, keyboard warrior. I am putting you on ignore.
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Other than his last statement. He's pretty much correct.
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Blah blah blah no one cares unless its a free evo giveaway
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QFT quoted for truth.
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That's ok... I'll conduct business as usual... its all good in the hood.
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I miss the good ole days when u could settle an argument with a MMQTB
I do have final thing to say and that I find it hilarious that people feel the need to twist words around and stuff, for their personal satisfaction. But as I said, back to business for me. I accidentally fed a troll and lost a hand. Oops, won't happen again!
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Damn you neb. 3rd keyboard in 3 months ruined by you and coke!
You sir win 100 internets.
Lately this forum has been littered with senseless and useless garbage. People are starting threads only to say stuff like "I got Froyo...not!". I thought the point of this community was to share information and be helpful to others in need. Who is the moderator here (do we even have one? I have yet to see one post), and why is all of this nonsense allowed to fly?
here...here.
Amen, this **** is getting really old.
YOU ARENT FUNNY OR ORIGINAL.
Theres at least 3 or 4 topics on the first page with this bull****, why hasnt it been cleaned out?
My topic was deleted immediately after my problem was solved, yet all these 12 year olds run rampant here in the General section, completely unchecked.
Funny, i reported to moderators the same thing you are saying a few minutes ago... i mostly just ignore those kind of posts, but it's getting very old to come in here and just read senseless threads all over it.
If they where at least original but three threads for the same stupidity, seriously?
Vibrant vibrating nicely now,Kthx!
I think the moderator is also a developer. Properly moderating this forum would probably require at least one full time salaried employee.
I agree though, this is quite possibly one of the worst boards I've ever read. If you check out the other sections of this site it seems pretty normal, vibrant section is like west Baltimore. No idea why that is, different overall demographic I guess, lot of kids, who knows.
Its fun to read over coffee or while bored at work, and there are some decent posters, but overall the vibrant general board is pretty well a mess.
I happens...as a long-time lurker and now registered, it looks like the "android-forums" are leaching over. I just do not click on topics that seem to fit into this thread's category.
Yea, it has gotten old.
You know what I find even more annoying ....
People that do not contribute, have been here only a short time, that think they know what is best for this board ...
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You know what I find even more annoying ....
People that do not contribute, have been here only a short time, that think they know what is best for this board ...
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Are you serious?
Please let me know the exact post count/contribution threshold that you have deemed appropriate for deciding whether or not a useless, off-topic post, belongs anywhere other than the Off-Topic board.
In fact, what I find most annoying, is people who have inflated egos and think that they are better and can decide who is a worthy contributor.
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People that do not contribute, have been here only a short time, that think they know what is best for this board ...
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What's worse is a senior member not realizing that what the op is saying is completely true. You don't have to be here for a long time to know what's right, that's common sense.
If I was allowed to moderate this thread, just logging in once a night to delete/ move threads should be enough to keep it clean. Then, when I get tired of doing so, why not allow someone else to do it? Just a thought.
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Are you serious?
Please let me know the exact post count/contribution threshold that you have deemed appropriate for deciding whether or not a useless, off-topic post, belongs anywhere other than the Off-Topic board.
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Never said anything about off topic posts, or even post count .....
But to make a thread like this is just as bad ...
But like any "community" you have different types of people, and unless the "majority" sees the problem then just whining about it does nothing but annoy the rest of us.
It is the old "If you are not part of the solution , you are part of the problem" stance, there are contact pages to send messages to the board owners/admins for this kind of thing.
This board has been here for a long time, and it was originally for people who were DEV's and People wanting to learn not for instant gratification.
I do agree that the "BS" threads are annoying, but does this thread not fall into that same category.
watcher64 said:
Never said anything about off topic posts, or even post count .....
But to make a thread like this is just as bad ...
But like any "community" you have different types of people, and unless the "majority" sees the problem then just whining about it does nothing but annoy the rest of us.
It is the old "If you are not part of the solution , you are part of the problem" stance, there are contact pages to send messages to the board owners/admins for this kind of thing.
This board has been here for a long time, and it was originally for people who were DEV's and People wanting to learn not for instant gratification.
I do agree that the "BS" threads are annoying, but does this thread not fall into that same category.
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I have contacted moderators/admins.
But it comes down to what constitutes deletion of a thread. Like I said earlier, I started a topic in Q&A recently with a bug question. I solved my problem, but in solving it, another question arose. However my thread was deleted before I could even come back to check it again.
If my thread, after having my problem solved, was deemed unnecessary, then why not all these garbage threads, with no point or reason?
Well said op big +1 from this vib/xda user.
And all the "bricked" threads.. Dont people have scrole wheels on thier f_ing mouses?
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I have contacted moderators/admins.
But it comes down to what constitutes deletion of a thread, like I said earlier, I started a topic in Q&A recently with a bug question, I solved my problem, but in solving it, another question arose. However my thread was deleted before I could even come back to check it again.
If my thread, after having my problem solved, was deemed unnecessary, then why not all these garbage threads, with no point or reason?
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Mainly because this is a public forum, and yes they are annoying, and a lot of useless crap, but everyone has a right to post , UNLESS the "gods on high" deem it unworthy, not sure why your thread got deleted, did you ask for it to be, was it a double post...
Yet here as with life there is/are double standards, so again making threads whining about it, is about as annoying and as the "nonsense" threads.
Are people unable to NOT READ nonsense threads, someone twisting your arm making you go into them, does search not work for you.
You do realize that what keeps a lot of the "nonsense" threads up in the list is people going into them complaining about them, people going in and saying "delete this thread" every few minutes does not help anything except keeping it at the top.
Ignore them and they will go away ...
I agree. The general forum is no longer worth reading.
both sides of fence
hell i just got rick rolled in a froyo thread but my fault for reading the thread. but i see both sides of the argument if you get annoyed from what people post don't read, but there are those who do like to abuse their posting rights and post stupid stuff but the rick rolling i got to give them kudos haven't been rick rolled in like a year so, touche on that one but yeah i would like to see more legit posts from people and not just some stupid gag post.
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hell i just got rick rolled in a froyo thread but my fault for reading the thread. but i see both sides of the argument if you get annoyed from what people post don't read, but there are those who do like to abuse their posting rights and post stupid stuff but the rick rolling i got to give them kudos haven't been rick rolled in like a year so, touche on that one but yeah i would like to see more legit posts from people and not just some stupid gag post.
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You really can't control , or I say should not have to control, what and where people post, but you can control responses to those posts, if you ignore them , they fall off the radar, if you keep posting in them to complain they stay at the top.
Just as much as the people posting the crap , the people responding to the crap need some self control.
So again "if you are not part of the solution , you are part of the problem" .
but I agree, have not been "rick rolled" in quite some time, silly , useless , but still some funny stuff ....
I liked the shroom thread.
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Not a lot going on in vibrant land lately so not a lot of relevant worth reading topics or posts to water down the spam and trolls.
Once rom development picks up the vibrant boards will be flooded with topics and posts by people who can't read or follow directions and have no reason to be mucking around with their phones in the first place and demand help for problems they can't describe in coherent sentences. Like every other part of the forum.
Hopefully the development out weighs all of these things, which is what kept me coming back with my G1 and MyTouch 3G. Just report the thread/post and move on. What more can you do? Feeding the trolls never helps.
it's just the world we live in. as technology becomes the norm for most kids growing up, there will always be a clash. back in 96 it wasn't this bad. Kinda like dealing with your little brother we'll just have to deal with it. The only help we can get is some decent moderation here but they are not willing to do their job. Oh, they are busy? Then why not get someone for free [people do it for free ya know] to moderate the damn place?
sane1 - dude I like your avatar
i have a captivate running froyo, but is there a leaked froyo out for the vibrant or no?
if I was a mod I'd lock this thread
I'll one up you, I would ban him
You can get froyo in the vibrant thro a custom rom.
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I want to know why many peeps here hate about question on froyo for vibrant?
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ok my bad guys, i did research on it afterwords and it seems there isnt a full froyo out..Mod edit: language removed from quote
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This is why people rage about this...There are 20 gazillion 2.2 threads...and one search button. Search always loses
All the roms available for the phone are on the first two pages of the development side. Not like people are hiding **** keeping full 2.2 roms to themselves, that's why these threads are stupid.
Lol at researching afterwards haha.
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i have a captivate running froyo, but is there a leaked froyo out for the vibrant or no?
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No 2.2 for the vibrant yet... No eta either. Just be patient, we will get it eventually.
In the mean time you should try one of the two froyo roms that are in the forum.
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looks like 2.2 for vibrant may come shortly though. we'll see.
http://www.samfirmware.com/apps/blog/show/5038470-official-froyo-release-galaxy-s-
SiL3nTKiLL said:
man people are so uptight on this forum now, back in the day it was never like this...oh well, i guess when ur a 12yr old hiding behind a monitor, u can be the biggest e-thug u want to be out there :/
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No its just the fact that no one these days can figure out how to use the "Search" function & there are all of these useless threads that pop up. (Hint: This thread)
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... mind numbing rudeness of people ... Nothing sours the moment more quickly than scanning a thread for nuggets of hidden info while constantly tripping over tripe ...
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+1 Agree, This community has become a little bitter - Why ???
People are bitter and frustrated because every day dozens of people are posting new threads about topics that have been answers, already have dozens of threads about the same topic, the answers are in the sticky, or just general whining. I personally have never seen a forum where so many people create new threads about the same exact thing numerous times a day.
The fact that a huge percentage of threads that are questions could be answered by using the search function is also a source of frustration. All of this crowds up the forum making it harder to find people with new issues, actually finding GOOD information (how many times do we need to hear that a TMO rep said something was coming in a week? really), and trying to find legitimate news.
If people on here would display even the most basic forum etiquette, it would be much, much better for everyone.
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If people on here would display even the most basic forum etiquette, it would be much, much better for everyone.
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This ^^^^^^
KerryG said:
The fact that a huge percentage of threads that are questions could be answered by using the search function is also a source of frustration.
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I do wish there was a little more active moderation in this forum. As for the OP's suggestion that people calm down, spending any time in this forum ~1 day before the JI6 update dropped would have seen no less than 2 Froyo threads in the front page, and there have been by last count 7 within the last month.
If people on here would display even the most basic forum etiquette, it would be much, much better for everyone.
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This won't happen until they invent the "physical beatdown over IP" protocol. The Internet is what is it because being polite isn't required to escape physical confrontation unscathed. It's easy to be willfully ignorant and to shrug off attempts to be educated, and it's just as easy to browbeat people who flippantly ignore general etiquette. Copernicus would be rolling over in his grave to know that everyone on the Internet thinks the universe revolves around them.
I like how people who just registered an account last month and have a few posts under their belt feel like they can bash anyone who posts here, regardless of the topic.
If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all. If you see a thread with a title that you find offensive why do you then go into that thread and proceed to post in it. Seems to me your point would be better served by ignoring the thread rather than spam bumping it with useless information and insults.
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I like how people who just registered an account last month and have a few posts under their belt feel like they can bash anyone who posts here, regardless of the topic.
If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all. If you see a thread with a title that you find offensive why do you then go into that thread and proceed to post in it. Seems to me your point would be better served by ignoring the thread rather than spam bumping it with useless information and insults.
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because trolling is easier on internet. And I have only seem one modertor working in this forum (he was doing a great job at it), but he isn't around all the time, and for some reason moderate refuse to delete threads that are redundant such as all the 2.2 date predication threads.
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because trolling is easier on internet. And I have only seem one modertor working in this forum (he was doing a great job at it), but he isn't around all the time, and for some reason moderate refuse to delete threads that are redundant such as all the 2.2 date predication threads.
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so rather than ignore the thread and let it fall off the front page you would rather spam insults and useless information?
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because trolling is easier on internet. And I have only seem one modertor working in this forum (he was doing a great job at it), but he isn't around all the time, and for some reason moderate refuse to delete threads that are redundant such as all the 2.2 date predication threads.
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Well folks, another has appeared. I've done a clean-up here, and fired off infractions to those flaming and cursing. This will not be tolerated, and trolling will be dealt with seriously.
This thread won't be opening due to the sheer number of similar threads already in existence.
hi mods plz dont close threads too early .we`re gonna discus but you dont let us just w8 until a flame war happen then ban ppl dont close whole thread
hope you`ll do it!
i think they want the forum to close lol
Lesser nonsensical opened thread = lesser closed threads.
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Lesser nonsensical opened thread = lesser closed threads.
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agree...
``Delayed update`` made x10 users so angry they just want to fight doesnt matter who is it i think banning the angry mans is best way to control forum not close thread
I agree and asked the same question to a moderator last night. I felt like the problem revolved around a couple senior members, not the entire forum. The mod made a good point. In the past they have tried just banning individuals, but another one pops up in his place. They need to send a message to everyone. Once things calm down, I bet they will back off. Everyone just needs to behave.
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I agree and asked the same question to a moderator last night. I felt like the problem revolved around a couple senior members, not the entire forum. The mod made a good point. In the past they have tried just banning individuals, but another one pops up in his place. They need to send a message to everyone. Once things calm down, I bet they will back off. Everyone just needs to behave.
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I agree, but I am not sure I can eliminate the issue to particular members, senior or junior. There is a general temperament and hostility in almost every new thread and in some older too. Maybe closing threads is harsh, but if we want to be honest, X10 forums have become unbearable last couple of weeks. I feel we left moderators with no other choice.
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I still think that banning is more effective than just locking.
Let's take my pinned Gingerbread update thread for example. I woke up to it today being locked, and I have no idea what caused it, but I do have a hunch to who are the people who caused the flame war and forced the mods to lock it.
Instead of locking the thread (now I can't even edit the OP anymore, so I lose my intention of the thread to keep an updated post on the GB update), it would be better to ban those members. Now, there will be even more spam threads as people post their own gingerbread threads, since mine, which was considered the main one, is locked. More spam=more flaming=more fighting=more locks.
It's a vicious cycle but I feel that banning will be more effective and send a point across.
i knew someone would start another thread, did say this to pilot. feel was harsh, as nothing had been said in the thread. If you take that stance as pilot said, stop it before it starts, then you could close every thread going that has someone stating something different to another.
Agreed !! +1
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I still think that banning is more effective than just locking.
Let's take my pinned Gingerbread update thread for example. I woke up to it today being locked, and I have no idea what caused it, but I do have a hunch to who are the people who caused the flame war and forced the mods to lock it.
Instead of locking the thread (now I can't even edit the OP anymore, so I lose my intention of the thread to keep an updated post on the GB update), it would be better to ban those members. Now, there will be even more spam threads as people post their own gingerbread threads, since mine, which was considered the main one, is locked. More spam=more flaming=more fighting=more locks.
It's a vicious cycle but I feel that banning will be more effective and send a point across.
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I think PILOT said you aren't restricted in that thread, just everyone else.
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Since You people cant discuss anything without lowering yourselves to arguing and crying ive locked this thread
The OP can still update but you cant ***** at each other
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I think PILOT said you aren't restricted in that thread, just everyone else.
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no I tried...no edit option avaliable.
ok
as my job as moderator i have to sometime preemptively guess if the thread is going to go in the flame war direction. thats my job. its something the admin has asked me to do
i closed a thread about tripnraver because they are guaranteed to turn nasty.
and got complaints. tripnraver is no longer at the this forums that was his choice and he doesnt want stuff of his posted here. also whenever some one does it turns nasty
i closed a thread about the 2.3 update. because i was getting a few dozen complaints per day about this. so it wasnt a discussion as some of you claim
it had been cleaned out a total of fours time by myself and other mods. and you will still not learn
the op of this thread should not have posted it. if he had concerns he should have pm'd me so i can pm him back. otherwise this thread will be full of "oh those moderators theyre asked to look after a forum and whaddya know they close thread destined to spiral into flame wars. stupid mods"
op of 2.3 thread im still looking at a way for you to update first post
all in all if you dont want to my close threads stop posting drivel everywhere. my_immortal was right i have no other option
if you have an issue with me losing a thread pm me or email me
and if you still think i was wrong for stopping arguements then feel free to pm mikechannon or svetius