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Simple solution for [ROM] threads to not grow to 98697615897834 pages...

Ok, so as I was reading though the DC 2.06 thread trying to gain some knowledge and figure out any bugs/workarounds/tips/tricks I got to page 30 something and just had to post this.
PLEASE
PLEASE
PLEASE
Stop posting USELESS, POINTLESS, BLOATING, POSTS!!!
I'm not trying to be hostile or anything but posts like....
"booting it now!" and "waiting for files to copy back to my sd card." and "I'm only 50% downloaded, can't wait!!"
While yes... it's good you are excited, but honestly, 99% of us don't give a damn. It makes it freakin' IMPOSSIBLE to navigate through this forum!!! And I don't want to hear anybody cry "Search" either. vBulletin search is NOT the best out there. I think yahoo Boolean searches from 1997 were better. And you have to search with the most basic of keywords, and those keywords (like apps2sd) are used in so many POINTLESS posts that its again, USELESS.
I mean, there is basically NO moderation here. It's like XDA Hero CDMA forums isn't even here. Things just run amock.
Sorry if this post came off as a bit hard, but come on. I mean, COME ON. Let's ALL work together to make this forum a little easier to find information. Is your post asking a question or adding anything to the community? No? Then think twice about posting in a [ROM] thread. I know the Devs appreciate the positive re-inforcement of their ROMs and they deserve it! However I dont think ROM threads are the place for that, NOT ONLY THAT, but when threads such as DC's start as a 2.0 and then are updated to 2.1 then 2.2 then 2.3 etc etc etc and the original post of the thread is changed instead of creating a new thread, so therefor the first 200 pages aren't even remotely relevant to 2.3 they're still from 2.0!
Ok, I'm sorry...
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i'm not trying to be hostile or anything, and i don't have anything against this or you, but really.
there have been so many threads JUST like this before. they all say the same thing.
in the end, they become one of those 'useless' posts, because no matter how many times you say this, its probably not going to stop people from making useless posts. sorry

AGREED! And it didn't come of hard to me!

Plus, those posts are more useful than this one. At least they give the dev, who worked for hours or days or months on the ROM, the satisfaction of knowing people appreciate it.
This post, on the other hand, accomplishes nothing.

justinisyoung said:
i'm not trying to be hostile or anything, and i don't have anything against this or you, but really.
there have been so many threads JUST like this before. they all say the same thing.
in the end, they become one of those 'useless' posts, because no matter how many times you say this, its probably not going to stop people from making useless posts. sorry
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Then somebody give me some damn moderation powers and I'll click that delete button all day long.
I moderate 3 other vBulletin forums. Mainly car forums, with 50,000+ members. I have no problem keeping them clean, and would not mind spending some of that time over here too. Hell even if I'm the only one doing it that's better than nothing!

thats definitely the worst thing about this forum. we don't have any active mods on this one. most other forums do. not us.

doojer said:
Plus, those posts are more useful than this one. At least they give the dev, who worked for hours or days or months on the ROM, the satisfaction of knowing people appreciate it.
This post, on the other hand, accomplishes nothing.
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Really?
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Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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awesome visited the forums at exactly the right time it seems..downloading now
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YES!!!!!!!!
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downloading now. this is my crack
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Downloading now. Thanks!!!
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You get my point?
Ok, you said your thanks.... time for CONSOLIDATION!

Yeah although u are correct in ur intent. The best way to get these issues taken care of is for our forum to get a mod that actually spends time here and doesn't mind being hated. I personally have tried to get them to make me a mod. But I guess u gotta be someone special to get that privilege. As I always do what they ask of me then never here a reply ontheir decision. Our forum is held down by the fact we don't have subforums like general, themes and apps, q&a and so on. But yeah the only way to get are issues resolved is to contact the mods and ask them to help us.

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Ok, you said your thanks.... time for CONSOLIDATION!
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ROFL This post made me laugh. Its so true, those posts are useless and offer nothing to the Rom maker.

I like the idea of the developers having something like a discuss thread where the good jobs and such can continue be posted for the roms. It becomes pretty difficult looking through the thread to find useful tidbits when it gets to be over 50 pages or so.
I do agree that having a moderator would be of great benefit too. +1 for toast becoming a mod.

U cant fix stupid :-/ people think posts counts make them cool. Posting one word replies followed by 10chars. Itll never be fixed, too many idiots. Just be happy we dont have that gay rep system.

Personally I like treasure hunts, so I am pretty happy the way things are. Lol.
Joking aside, I think that this is one of the strongest online communities/forum that I have joined and cared about. I think that the slack the moderators allow has allot to do with how I feel about this community. People are allowed to have a personality, a opinion, and a sense of humor here. It is very nice to come to a forum like this.
The way I read the long ROM threads is read the first page then go to last page and work my way backwards... works well for me. I see the updates the ROM creator posted and then the latest information being passed along that way.

Thinking about what i read now........ can't wait to finish..
LOL no really i do wish we could kindly ask the Devs to start a new thread upon each major revision and maybe put a link in the new thread to the previous version's tread. then post like mine about may not become as frustrating to read do to the lower volume of them.

doojer said:
Plus, those posts are more useful than this one. At least they give the dev, who worked for hours or days or months on the ROM, the satisfaction of knowing people appreciate it.
This post, on the other hand, accomplishes nothing.
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Actually he is trying to make this forum more manageable. Which IMO you would have to be blind not to realiese. Seriously 300+ pages are really hard to go though. And sometimes in threads ill see a theme or something cool and ill feel like good thing I read every post in that thread or I wouldnt have that. It feels like some really cool stuff gets barried in the threads.

bob2300nx said:
Actually he is trying to make this forum more manageable. Which IMO you would have to be blind not to realiese. Seriously 300+ pages are really hard to go though. And sometimes in threads ill see a theme or something cool and ill feel like good thing I read every post in that thread or I wouldnt have that. It feels like some really cool stuff gets barried in the threads.
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Damageless is trying to fix finding updates and themes with his updater tool. The updates will come to you! How cool is that? He is also going to try to help other devs to include a updater on their ROMs. Although this will not fix how cluttered the threads are in this forum it will assist you in finding the latest and greatest ways to trick out your Hero.

the only thing that should change is just every time a fix is found the OP should just take the fix and put it in the first post. People should be able to flash a rom and have the fixes all in the first post, this way people dont ask repeat questions. Whether or not everyone likes it people are always going to post "useless" stuff, which can be viewed as appreciative thanks or just people showing their excitement. I personally like xda a lot because people have personality its not all just straight discussion about a rom or anything like that.

Maybe we just could have a separate subforum for each major ROM? that way there could be the threads for people rambling and such, and separate threads for bug fixes, releases, etc.

I'm new 'round here (obviously), and I have to agree, finding the information I need has been difficult with every thread being hundreds pages. Finding that one post of someone with the same problem as me (and a solution) is a monumental task.
Just give each rom author a thread for people to leave their thanks, and keep the rom threads to discussing the rom.

+frickin1 for this thread. I think we should just start a poll to vote for someone here to be a mod, and just make the current XDA moderators accept that we have that mod... it's just ridiculous how it is right now.

what about in-thread stickies...there has to be a plugin for it somewhere...where you can nominate posts as thread stickies and all of the thread stickies, once approved by the OP, move to the beginning of the thread, so it would go
1st Post: OP
2nd Post: First approved helpful post
3rd Post: 2nd approved.... etc
that way all of the useful stuff will be right on that first page. If it's not already a plugin...it should be.

Gingerbread

Oh my goodness, there are just SO many Gingerbread threads. I do know what I would do if I see another thread about Gingerbread. Do you agree?

I dunno whether you thought this was funny or not..... it wasn't

cymru said:
I dunno whether you thought this was funny or not..... it wasn't
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Nope... My point was to call to attention how annoying it is for everyone else when people complain about all the Gingerbread threads. Don't visit the thread if you don't want to read the thread, but for people that do, or think they do, reading through a dozen 'OMG FFFFFUUUUUU' comments is quite irritating.
Relax and breathe! The Interwebs does what the Interwebs does.

Yeah, clutter is so much fun. And you're soooo edgy!

Fail
(+6)..

Is this what passes for wit these days?

daijizai said:
Nope... My point was to call to attention how annoying it is for everyone else when people complain about all the Gingerbread threads.
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...and yet you don't seem to understand how annoying it is for everyone else, who came here to try and find information, but struggle because of how many threads there are on the same subject?
The rules say search before starting a new thread. They say that for a reason (to keep down the clutter).
The purpose of forums is to encourage discussions with people of common interests, in a common location. Starting a new thread goes completely against this concept, since you now have to go to multiple locations... Monitoring multiple threads for news on Gingerbread (or anything else) is a PIA.
The whole board is full of people asking the same stuff over and over again. It's not because they don't know how to search. It's because there's just way too many threads on the same subject, making searching a nightmare. Not only is information dispersed, you also have a much higher potential for conflicting information...
As a Sr Systems Engineer, I would've thought you'd understand about duplication of information being being a major obstacle in configuration management?
Thanks for helping, though... :sarcasm:
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

daijizai said:
Nope... My point was to call to attention how annoying it is for everyone else when people complain about all the Gingerbread threads. Don't visit the thread if you don't want to read the thread, but for people that do, or think they do, reading through a dozen 'OMG FFFFFUUUUUU' comments is quite irritating.
Relax and breathe! The Interwebs does what the Interwebs does.
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Oh wow, you're such a mellow, free spirit with such wit and charm.
Go play psychologist somewhere else. Nobody here is interested in the human response to multiple threads. We just want to hear news about our phones. Your thread serves no purpose here. Get your attention fix from a different forum.

Fail.......

Great thread , if ya ever wanted to expose the trolls in a forum this is the way to do it. Good job lol

Mod, lock this waste of space!!

EarthsiegeTA said:
Is this what passes for wit these days?
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Its what passes for a half-wit

I love how XDA Developers has gone to **** lately.
Threads like this are a large part of it.

Man, I'm so glad that silly jokes don't bother me instead of me being a pompous ****bag. Actually, Pompous ****bag is a great band! Their many hits include:
"Lock This Thread!"
"Ban This Guy!"
"I Hope You Brick Your Phone!"
"I Let Other People Get My Goat On The Internet Of All Places."
And many more!

http://market.android.com/search?q=pname:com.google.android.ytremote
Sent from my Nexus One

Xda admin should charging trolls!
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

PSA to everyone with a battery:

Your phone is a personal device. You use your phone differently compared to everyone else who also owns an Evo. Different use yields different results, regardless of kernel, ROM, or kernel/ROM combination.
There is no universal fix. There is no God Mode kernel. Only you can decide which modification or set of modifications will work best for your usage.
Now: can we sticky this in all the Evo forums please? I, along with a lot of others, are reeeeal tired of seeing the kernel/battery-related questions flood ROM threads and General. Now, there's even a thread posing as a ROM thread in dev, asking the same rehashed question (which truly has no answer). It's getting out of hand.

I'm glad you thought that creating a spam thread about being tired of spam threads was the appropriate way to go.

SilverStone641 said:
I'm glad you thought that creating a spam thread about being tired of spam threads was the appropriate way to go.
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I lol'd.
For real, OP. The entire purpose of these forums is for people to come in and ask their questions, and it's because their device is their own that they have these questions. Scowering around for battery fixes is what's gotten me the usage I get now. To pop in and say "everyone stop whining about the battery, fix it yourself, kthxbai" is what I would call a little much, not the people who come in with questions, or even better, with answers.

...and you never know... God mode just may not have been discovered yet!

SilverStone641 said:
I'm glad you thought that creating a spam thread about being tired of spam threads was the appropriate way to go.
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+1 10char

sobis1dm said:
Only you can decide which modification or set of modifications will work best for your usage.[/SIZE]
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Totally understood. That said, what setcpu settings do you think will work best for me?

drummingfool said:
I lol'd.
For real, OP. The entire purpose of these forums is for people to come in and ask their questions, and it's because their device is their own that they have these questions. Scowering around for battery fixes is what's gotten me the usage I get now. To pop in and say "everyone stop whining about the battery, fix it yourself, kthxbai" is what I would call a little much, not the people who come in with questions, or even better, with answers.
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But why is it that we can rage about the fee threads, lack of 4G threads, "how do I root lolz" and other mundane topics, but this one is special?
if you're at the point where you understand that kernels and ROMs will effect your battery, then you should already know the information in the OP. It's the influx of people who are doing no research and expect their hand held and guided to the holy grail of tweaks that's creating such garbage.
Bottom line: time and time again, the kernel/tweak topic floods threads and forums. Time and time again, its the same answer: Results may vary.

I acknowledge the fact that there is no universal kernel/rom fix. That being said, I find it fascinating to read about people's kernel/rom combinations.
I'm using Myns RLS4B and Ziggy Kernel. I'll probably try another one in a few days. This one gets me about 9 hours of moderate/heavy use

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I'm glad you thought that creating a spam thread about being tired of spam threads was the appropriate way to go.
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gottem
10chars

To get more battery on all the roms I tried, I just tilted my phone up up down down left right left right...

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Uh, not really. This isn't even close to spam.

*** Was your thread recently deleted? Read on to find out why ***

If you suddenly cannot find your thread in Vibrant General, it is because I deleted it. Along with over 60 total in the last 2 hours. There is no need for everybody to create a NEW thread related to the release of Froyo OTA for the Vibrant.
Anyone not following this simple request will receive an infraction for the first offense, and then a forum ban for future offenses.
Thank you for your cooperation,
NATF

While I understand that point behind it, you deleted the first REAL thread about its release - that you would need to be on kies mini to receive it, that is what I do not understand. That, and the 5 posts about it on the first page of the DEV section that are still there.

jellette said:
While I understand that point behind it, you deleted the first REAL thread about its release - that you would need to be on kies mini to receive it, that is what I do not understand.
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Agree.
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There is no reason why a new thread has to be created because it has been released. The "Froyo coming tomorrow" thread can be used for this purpose, and that OP (or myself) can edit the title accordingly.

There are 7 multi-page kies ota threads on the 1st page of the general section, if this was done for the reason stated, why were those left in place. I never saw a notice posted that any exciting news would be deleted.
EDIT: KA6 must have a new feature because in lieu of a response, I actually heard crickets..

+1 these mods are taking advantage he probably has a galaxy amd hasn't got the update yet
jellette said:
There are 7 multi-page kies ota threads on the 1st page of the general section, if this was done for the reason stated, why were those left in place. I never saw a notice posted that any exciting news would be deleted.
EDIT: KA6 must have a new feature because in lieu of a response, I actually heard crickets..
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My two cents: Not only is this policy being applied inconsistently, but it's not being done with any reasoned judgment behind the decisions. Jellette's thread was legit IMO--it was helpful and informative and the topic deserved a clean break from the Froyo anticipation thread. ("Froyo is here" /= "They said Froyo is coming").

Let me preface this by saying I think the mods do an exceptional job here, with that said...
I personally believe it is wiser to be fair, rather than consistent. I am not advocating special treatment for Heathen, but given his contributions in the past, present and future... perhaps deletion of his (or any other key contributors) thread should be met with a higher level of scrutiny.
Just my $.02

So umm why were all the thread not just merged? unless there was a bunch of rules being broken I fail to see the reason to delete threads when there is a thread merger tool in the mod control panel.

I do not have a Vibrant, regardless of what TL chooses to believe. As for why certain threads were removed and others were not, that is because I haven't gotten to them yet. After deleting 60+ threads, I needed a break.

NotATreoFan said:
I do not have a Vibrant, regardless of what TL chooses to believe. As for why certain threads were removed and others were not, that is because I haven't gotten to them yet. After deleting 60+ threads, I needed a break.
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The job you guys do is not an enviable task... and I think you guys get it right 99.999% of the time. I just think that you guys can exercise a higher level of discretion when it comes to deleting the post of a quality contributor... especially given context.

You think we can lock this thread now? It is obvious that there will be neither any progress towards to a resolution of an unevenly distributed unwritten policy made, nor will there be a retraction made by the Mod, and this is only going to end in an even more unfair refraction or banning.

jellette said:
You think we can lock this thread now? It is obvious that there will be neither any progress towards to a resolution of an unevenly distributed unwritten policy made, nor will there be a retraction made by the Mod, and this is only going to end in an even more unfair refraction or banning.
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I will close this thread in a few minutes. However, in the interest of compromise, you can create a new discussion thread. If you want to, and I will not close/delete it. However, this is with the understanding that any other threads, regardless of who the OP is, will be removed without notice.
Fair compromise?

To be honest, I pushed my boundries a little here. I will respect your original decision and not repost a new topic. I understand, really, with the flood of posts that came through that there was no way to determine what was what.
I believe my respecting your decision is a more appropriate compromise.

Thats awesome, everyone *****ed at me for criticizing the over-whining thats been going on...thanks for cleaning it up!
I cant believe you guys have the audacity to criticize the mod for deleting them....there have been dozens threads started in the last week ALONE about lack-of-froyo/screw-samsung/froyo-ota
no one knows how to stick with one thread anymore, there is absolutely no need for the first page of the vibrant general forum to consist of all similar topics...NONE....who the hell cares who started the first one, this isnt a popularity contest, the OP didnt release the OTA...samsung did...one dedicated thread is all we need because all of these threads say the same damn thing

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Thats awesome, everyone *****ed at me for criticizing the over-whining thats been going on...thanks for cleaning it up!
I cant believe you guys have the audacity to criticize the mod for deleting them....there have been alomst 20 threads started in the last week about lack-of-froyo/screw-samsung/froyo-ota
no one knows how to stick with one thread anymore, there is absolutely no need for the first page of the vibrant general forum to consist of all similar topics...NONE
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That seems to be kind of an inflamatory response. I'm trying to show respect for the mod at this point and concede.

jellette said:
That seems to be kind of an inflamatory response. I'm trying to show respect for the mod at this point and concede.
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i realize that, but why does it matter who started the original thread (if we can even pinpoint that), again its not a popularity contest. im not trying to attack you, but it just seemed like the mod was getting ripped for doing exactly what he is supposed to do.....to complain that he deleted the "original thread" just doesnt make sense, as long as there is a dedicated thread that should be the only concern

My thread was meant to be humorous and is not directly related to the update yet it got deleted

TopShelf10 said:
Thats awesome, everyone *****ed at me for criticizing the over-whining thats been going on...thanks for cleaning it up!
I cant believe you guys have the audacity to criticize the mod for deleting them....there have been dozens threads started in the last week ALONE about lack-of-froyo/screw-samsung/froyo-ota
no one knows how to stick with one thread anymore, there is absolutely no need for the first page of the vibrant general forum to consist of all similar topics...NONE....who the hell cares who started the first one, this isnt a popularity contest, the OP didnt release the OTA...samsung did...one dedicated thread is all we need because all of these threads say the same damn thing
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i realize that, but why does it matter who started the original thread (if we can even pinpoint that), again its not a popularity contest. im not trying to attack you, but it just seemed like the mod was getting ripped for doing exactly what he is supposed to do.....
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He was getting ripped and it wasnt fair. Even less fair was him aggreeing to compromise in the end. That is why I wanted to put this thing to rest.

jellette said:
He was getting ripped and it wasnt fair. Even less fair was him aggreeing to compromise in the end. That is why I wanted to put this thing to rest.
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sorry i flipped out, i kind of took my frustration out on you. it was so annoying to see a new froyo thread pop up every 2 hours. and the humor ones are just as bad^^^^
the reason its important is because its not fair to members who are posting unique threads, some who need help with problems, to have their threads get buried almost instantaneously beneath these duplicate, garbage, unproductive threads. and i support and applaud the mod who finally cracked down on this.
nothing personal to you man, just explaining why i kind of freaked out.

has anyone noticed a rise in the numder of noobs floating around here lately.

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed an increased number of bumped ancient threads for no reason at all ppl bashing on threads for no reason and people posting in wrong sections did the mods go on vacation or something lol

Bierce22 said:
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed an increased number of bumped ancient threads for no reason at all ppl bashing on threads for no reason and people posting in wrong sections did the mods go on vacation or something lol
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I'll agree with that.IMO it's just that this phone is a little long in the tooth,and a lot of the really good devs have moved on. Also a lot of the people that were really helpful(not saying all of them,there are still some that help.)have moved on to other phones,and if you look at the sigs. of the mods they are involved with many other phones which eats up a lot of they're time.And I think they're leaving some of the policing to us unless it gets out of hand,like over they're in the thread where it got a little heated....

I'm only posting here because I liked the thread title
I kinda agree with you, I noticed the same thing about the necro bumping.
Another thing, is what happened to the search button?? It seems to have disappeared lately
btw (numder =/= number)
Also Bierce22.. does this thread have anything to do with that deleting emails thread in the Dev section?

Also Bierce22.. does this thread have anything to do with that deleting emails thread in the Dev section?
you saw that lol...
and yes.
Also fowatine or whatever his name is really pissed me off yesterday when he started bashing my thread "help switching to a modified prl" when he didint try to read what was going on.

hey does anyone want to nominate me for a mod ill clean up this town......
jk lol

Bierce22 said:
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed an increased number of bumped ancient threads for no reason at all ppl bashing on threads for no reason and people posting in wrong sections did the mods go on vacation or something lol
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We are all new at one time, and some of us (like me) post wrong because we're just learning the ropes..

yea but my point is if i ever posted in th wrong section i would get bashed and flamed instantly now those posts seem to sit for awhile

Bierce22 said:
yea but my point is if i ever posted in th wrong section i would get bashed and flamed instantly now those posts seem to sit for awhile
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Maybe those pricks have moved on,,, LoL

Yeah I gotta say it's pretty ridiculous lately. No **** I didnt post on xda for about a year, I just looked around and read things and figured stuff out. Yes we were all noob at one point, but that didn't forgive all things. I can't wait to get my evo 3d
sent from a series of tubes.

il Duce said:
Yeah I gotta say it's pretty ridiculous lately. No **** I didnt post on xda for about a year, I just looked around and read things and figured stuff out. Yes we were all noob at one point, but that didn't forgive all things. I can't wait to get my evo 3d
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You must come from the unix world , to be able to figure linux . Coming from DEC's VMS world , unix never made sense to me .LoL
Also a lot of the grabassing is being done by "senior" members, remember "you can't fix stupid, but ignorance can be taught"

The biggest reason for the influx of new users to the Hero forum is because the phone has become so outdated (especially with Sprint no longer selling it). People are always looking to get the most out of their purchase, and many will wait until their contract or warranty has expired to being modifying their devices.
EDIT: Also, the more cluttered the forum becomes, the more difficult it can be for a new user to search and find what they need. There is so much clutter in the forums now that it could conceivably take hours to find out all the information on all of the available modifications. You could attempt to search for a solution to an issue, only to find several threads saying "please search for a solution" and one thread actually stating the solution. The time when senior users stuck to only posting informative, concise responses has passed.

jasonmaloney said:
The biggest reason for the influx of new users to the Hero forum is because the phone has become so outdated (especially with Sprint no longer selling it). People are always looking to get the most out of their purchase, and many will wait until their contract or warranty has expired to being modifying their devices.
EDIT: Also, the more cluttered the forum becomes, the more difficult it can be for a new user to search and find what they need. There is so much clutter in the forums now that it could conceivably take hours to find out all the information on all of the available modifications. You could attempt to search for a solution to an issue, only to find several threads saying "please search for a solution" and one thread actually stating the solution. The time when senior users stuck to only posting informative, concise responses has passed.
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agreed....

enough with the smiles already...
enough with the smiles already lol
i can do it to lol.
i cant believe i got a thx for that lol.

i defintly think there needs to another mod for the hero deca and theimpaler cant be everywere at once.

Bierce22 said:
enough with the smiles already...
enough with the smiles already lol
i can do it to lol.
i cant believe i got a thx for that lol.
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Aw, does someone need a hug??
Sent from my Android using Tapatalk

also whats up with that luisdg dude hes bumped like 4 threads up in the last 10min
case in point... lmao

Anyone notice a rise in the numder of people who cannot spell or put together a coherent sentence lately?

stayclean said:
Anyone notice a rise in the numder of people who cannot spell or put together a coherent sentence lately?
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touche stayclean tocuhe..

stayclean said:
Anyone notice a rise in the numder of people who cannot spell or put together a coherent sentence lately?
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Don't even start. I often am able to offer assistance but decline to do so simply because despite not having the time to search, some users seem to also not have the time to type a properly worded post/question.
why didntthiswork on idk whutsgoin on wid itt radish sum1plzhlp

haha autocorect and texting ruined my typing ability lmao.