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Note 2 Vs Note 1

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Differences:
Note 2 Note 1 Comments
size: 151.1 x 80.5 x 9.4mm 146.9 x 83 x 9.7 mm 4.2mm longer
2.5mm narrower
.3 mm thinner
RAM 2G 1G 1G more
weight: 180g 178g 2 grams heavier
battery: 3100mah 2500 mah 24% larger battery
CPU 1.6 Ghz Quad A9 1.4 Ghz Dual A9
memory 12,32,64 GB 12,32 gig 64 gig option
NFC Yes No
BT 4.0 3.0
Screen: 5.55" 5.3"
Pixels: 1280x720 1280x800
aspect: 16:9 16:10
DPI 264.5 285 7.2% less dpi (calced)
Pxl Layout:RGB RGBG
os JB GB
Glass: Gorilla Glass 2 Gorilla Glass 1
Not. light Yes No
DAC Wolfram Yamaha YMU823
New things:
S-pen is different: thicker, rubberized tip.
'S-pen is removed' hardware switch for notifications
Same:
GPU Mali-400MP
No 1700 support
- Frank

Thanks Frank nice shart

NOTE 2
NOTE 2!!!!!!!!!!

If you watch videos during long train, subway rides regularly, playing video will even be a major leap, than a minor one.
Because of the Galaxy Note 1's 16:10 resolution, if you prefer video to be uncropped, you only used 4.77" of Galaxy Note 1's 5.3" screen when playing a 16:9 resolution video. Pretty much all TV shows and movies are encoded in this resolution today.
However, on the Galaxy Note 2, you will be using all 5.5" to play 16:9 video.
That is 0.73" gained diagonally when playing video. Very significant. But again, only if you don't like cropping to fill the Galaxy Note 1 screen. I personally hate cropping and have never cropped a video on my free will in my life so this is a big deal.
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This is for the International version right? I really hope all versions have 1700 mHz support. Or that T-mobile has its 1900 mHz network up by the time I get this phone (if I ever do).

The Note 2 also has a backlit sensor like the GS3 but unlike the first Note.
Given the similarities with the GS3, it seems likely the Note 2 comes with the Wolfson DAC but I haven't seen any confirmation of this.
I can count a total of 10 improvements (11 if you are interested in the 64GB model):
Edit: Supercurio has confirmed the Wolfson DAC which makes it the 11th hardware improvement on each Note 2.
1. Quadcore
2. More RAM
3. Bigger battery
4. Improved Spen
5. Gorilla Glass 2
6. NFC
7. RGB pixel arrangement
8. Notification light
9. Bluetooth 4
10 Backlit sensor
11 Wolfson DAC
Overall I think it's an impressive upgrade and I am not sure why some people were unhappy. I think there was some disappointment with the reduced resolution but it's just a 7% reduction in DPI and is more than compensated by the newer pixel arrangement. And we haven't even mentioned all the software goodies.

Strategist said:
The Note 2 also has a backlit sensor like the GS3 but unlike the first Note.
Given the similarities with the GS3, it seems likely the Note 2 comes with the Wolfson DAC but I haven't seen any confirmation of this.
I can count a total of 10 improvements (11 if you are interested in the 64GB model):
1. Quadcore
2. More RAM
3. Bigger battery
4. Improved Spen
5. Gorilla Glass 2
6. NFC
7. RGB pixel arrangement
8. Notification light
9. Bluetooth 4
10 Backlit sensor
Overall I think it's an impressive upgrade and I am not sure why some people were unhappy. I think there was some disappointment with the reduced resolution but it's just a 7% reduction in DPI and is more than compensated by the newer pixel arrangement. And we haven't even mentioned all the software goodies.
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Sweet. I wasn't aware of the RGB pixel arrangement until you mentioned it. Everyone just assumed pentile from day 1 and I hadn't heard it was different since. Thanks for pointing that out. Now I want the Galaxy Note 2 even more.
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Lucidmike said:
Sweet. I wasn't aware of the RGB pixel arrangement until you mentioned it. Everyone just assumed pentile from day 1 and I hadn't heard it was different since. Thanks for pointing that out. Now I want the Galaxy Note 2 even more.
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It's not rgb, but it's not pentile. It's been all over the blogs,
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May2012 said:
I hope Samsung will pack the Universe Observe 2 with a better battery pack than the Observe 1. Having a quad core processor in addition to a bigger screen (although lower resolution), users of the Universe Observe 2 will surely grumble about battery pack.
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The Note 2 has 3100mAH battery vs. 2500 for the original.
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please US carriers...dont jack this one up for me like u did with the s3...quadcore woohooo DOH!.....from my t999 that barely outscores my t989 on quads

eallan said:
It's not rgb, but it's not pentile. It's been all over the blogs,
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I have seen it called RGB although an unusual variant. After all, there is a red, green and blue sub-pixel in every pixel.
Incidentally Supercurio has confirmed the Wolfson DAC and I have edited my post to add an 11th improvement.

Note 2 has Radio FM??? in samsung specification web, not show about it

International version dont have...
~RR

xiskillo said:
Note 2 has Radio FM??? in samsung specification web, not show about it
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It hs radio with RDS,
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_ii_n7100-4854.php

Strategist said:
I have seen it called RGB although an unusual variant. After all, there is a red, green and blue sub-pixel in every pixel.
Incidentally Supercurio has confirmed the Wolfson DAC and I have edited my post to add an 11th improvement.
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Thanks - updated 1st post.
There's no reason not to call it RGB since each white pixel has an R, G, and B subpixel.
- Frank

Strategist said:
Incidentally Supercurio has confirmed the Wolfson DAC and I have edited my post to add an 11th improvement.
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Source?

vitalij92 said:
Source?
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This tweet.

theUsualSuspexx said:
please US carriers...dont jack this one up for me like u did with the s3...quadcore woohooo DOH!.....from my t999 that barely outscores my t989 on quads
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US has the same processor as the international. finally!

The note really isn't that big , and the note 2 is suppose to be easier to hold
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Z3 vs Note 4 Battery and Camera

I have sony z2 i get bored of devices really quick and it's time for a upgrade. I only care for camera and battery life the most. So which out of these 2 devices you guys think will be great device for camera and battery life?
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Go check out the blind camera test comparison on Phonearena. The Note 4 did well the Z3 not so great. Consider the fact that the Note 4 and iPhone 6 and Plus all use Sony camera modules and take better pictures. The Z3 is just as capable but needs a software update to compete with them.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...comparison-iPhone-6-is-distant-second_id61676
As for battery life the Z3 and Note 4 are both great, however if you surf the web alot the AMOLED screen will actually use a lot more power than an LCD and also AMOLED is prone to screen burn as the organic phosphors wear out. The blue is the one affected typically having 8000 Hrs to 1/2 brightness. I have seen 2-3 month old phones with burn in (Display models are on 24 hrs at full brightness). If you are a casual user the Note 4 might be better but for heavy users you will most likely get noticable burn in before your 2 year contract is up.
This table is a bit dated and both LCD and AMOLED have come a long way but still useful.
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Overall I think the Z3 is the best option right now, I am sure they will make the camera better in the next update. I like Samsung but hate AMOLED so I am biased in a way.

Note 4 for Camera
Z3 for Battery
You shouldn't really be upgrading from a z2 unless your not bothered about spending money. The z2 is as good as the note 4 or the z3.
I personally would go for the z3 because touchwiz is just too much ontop of android wheras Sony just keep things almost stock like.
That ontop of the fact that quad hd screens are pointless. They actually have too many drawbacks like frame drops higher battery drain. They just aren't as smooth as 1080p displays yet.

If you're bored easily go for the note4. The z3 isn't that different from the z2 and unfortunately sony screws up with the camera software (and there is no reason to believe they'll improve it that much given the past.) Note4 wins on camera overall imo.
Z3 wins in battery but note4 shouldbdo fine there as well...

abhinav.tella said:
Go check out the blind camera test comparison on Phonearena. The Note 4 did well the Z3 not so great. Consider the fact that the Note 4 and iPhone 6 and Plus all use Sony camera modules and take better pictures. The Z3 is just as capable but needs a software update to compete with them.
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I don't agree. Also, it's true Sony makes all of the sensors, but the Z3 camera uses a 1/2.3" sensor whereas the others use a 1/3" sensor
Are you basing you opinion off of one review site? I don't think that's a good assessment.

se1000 said:
I don't agree. Also, it's true Sony makes all of the sensors, but the Z3 camera uses a 1/2.3" sensor whereas the others use a 1/3" sensor
Are you basing you opinion off of one review site? I don't think that's a good assessment.
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That link was only a blind camera comparison not a phone review by the way.
I mean Note is not bad at all but for me AMOLED kills it. I keep 2 year contracts so I get OCD about burn in lol. Just my opinion by the way.
Battery life varies based on what you use it for, webpages LCD is much better, videos oled.... LCD of current generation are getting close to oleds in efficiency in videos etc.

Battery: Z3 better about 1-1.5h Screen on time
Camera: Note 4 better accept extreme low light.
Samsung TW heavier, lagger but much more functions.
Note 4 will have much more custom Roms, Kernels, Mods so you will improve battery with after next some months.

Zanr Zij said:
Battery: Z3 better about 1-1.5h Screen on time
Camera: Note 4 better accept extreme low light.
Samsung TW heavier, lagger but much more functions.
Note 4 will have much more custom Roms, Kernels, Mods so you will improve battery with after next some months.
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Don't forget to write note 4 snapdragon variant
Exynos is famous for bad development

darkrai said:
Don't forget to write note 4 snapdragon variant
Exynos is famous for bad development
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I believe this time will change. Exynos variant will have much more development due to better CPU performance, 64bit suppport promising

Zanr Zij said:
I believe this time will change. Exynos variant will have much more development due to better CPU performance, 64bit suppport promising
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Never did happen with older sammy phones
Z3 is much better than exynos n4 in battery and is as good as snapdragon n4
In display, no phone can beat note 4 in it (except brightness)
I prefer z3's camera over note 4

darkrai said:
Never did happen with older sammy phones
Z3 is much better than exynos n4 in battery and is as good as snapdragon n4
In display, no phone can beat note 4 in it (except brightness)
I prefer z3's camera over note 4
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I already used Snap N4 a week. I'm sure that Z3 battery better, atleast 1h SoT.
Display: N4 is not the best, of course very good. It has a bit yellow tint. I compared N4 next to Dell UltraSharp calibrated.
It also is not good for your eyes due to too high contrast.

The Note 4's 16MP rear camera flaunts the fastest focusing speed owing to its latest ISOCELL sensor technology which is boosted by Galaxy S5's phase-detection auto-focus capability.
The new Note 4 also features optical image stabilisation feature for its rear camera and a 3.7MP front camera for capturing selfies as well as full HD video recording at 30fps.
In contrast, the Xperia Z3 sports an imposing 20.7MP rear camera with 8x digital zoom and 3x clear image zoom, and a compact 2.2MP front camera for capturing 1080p (Full HD) video at 30fps.

inaya45 said:
The Note 4's 16MP rear camera flaunts the fastest focusing speed owing to its latest ISOCELL sensor technology which is boosted by Galaxy S5's phase-detection auto-focus capability.
The new Note 4 also features optical image stabilisation feature for its rear camera and a 3.7MP front camera for capturing selfies as well as full HD video recording at 30fps.
In contrast, the Xperia Z3 sports an imposing 20.7MP rear camera with 8x digital zoom and 3x clear image zoom, and a compact 2.2MP front camera for capturing 1080p (Full HD) video at 30fps.
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Note 4 uses a Sony module, the GS5 uses ISOCELL.

abhinav.tella said:
Note 4 uses a Sony module, the GS5 uses ISOCELL.
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Note 4 sensor: Sony on Snapdragon, ISOCELL on Exynos.

Zanr Zij said:
Note 4 sensor: Sony on Snapdragon, ISOCELL on Exynos.
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My bad, thanks for the info.

Why Samsung Galaxy note 4?

Why wil you choose Galaxy note 4? comapare to other phablet . and its competitor iphone 6?
harkz.com/why-note-4

For me the reason is simple, it has more features and productive. My brother has the iphone 6+ and it felt
like using the my old iphone 5 except the 6+ is bigger.

for me really i dont know i just wanted to buy lg g flex 2 but i found it lag like hell
i tried to fet htc phaplet but did not find one with big scree
i bought note 4 with snapdragin 805
but really dont like heat so much and else lag sometimes
but i love the pen and the fantastic screen

[Q] Why Samsung Galaxy note 4?
harkzph said:
Why wil you choose Galaxy note 4? comapare to other phablet . and its competitor iphone 6?
harkz.com/why-note-4
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The iPhone 6 is not a phablet
I have both the Note 4 & iPhone 6+
I use both about the same and change which is my daily driver every few days.
Hardware wise they are very different, but really that hasn't made much difference to me in my day to day use of either device as I tend to use the exact same apps on both devices.
Screenwise :- I honestly can't say I can see a difference between the 1080p screen v the 2k screen. Both just look like great screens - though the iPhones does get brighter and is easier to see in outside daylight. The Note 4's gets dimmer and more comfortable at nighttime.
Speakers :- the iPhone 6+ speaker is clearer than the Note 4's which can sound a little tinny and distorted at full volume.
Camera :- main cameras outside of megapixel differences are able to capture very similar results with neither being much better than the other. 1080p recording on iPhone 6+ does benefit with much better OIS over the Note 4 - however Note 4's 4k recording is some of the best 4k quality I've seen on a smartphone and clearly iPhone can't do that.
Removable storage and battery are nice to have but aren't deal breakers for me.
Note 4 main benefits are mainly the S-Pen features for me. I can doodle / etch a picture on the fly. I can scribble down notes quickly.
The customisability is too its strength.
IPhone 6+ strength is its software consistency and fluidity.
People will tell you that Note 4 is better at multitasking and iPhone 6+ is terrible because of less ram and yet on current lollipop builds I find it's the iPhone 6+ that handles multitasking better despite 3x less ram.
On KitKat they are similar in my daily experience but with a nudge to the Note 4.
Here's my Lollipop experience. Notice the Note 4 has to refresh app content in many applications and the iPhone 6+ doesn't despite less ram. Most of these were Google apps that I use every day.
Battery wise they are similar too but with nudge this time going to iPhone 6+
IPhone 6 version is poor battery wise compared to either.
Overall I think both a great handsets and a person will be served greatly by either (or both as I am).....
Buy in confidence whichever you choose.

becouse specs

Note 4 for Faster charging,cheap,very good screen,customisation but iphone 6 plus is faster in terms of app opening & better front camera,fingerprint scanning,its iphone name.
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RISHI RAJ said:
Note 4 for Faster charging,cheap,very good screen,customisation but iphone 6 plus is faster in terms of app opening & better front camera,fingerprint scanning,its iphone name.
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Better camera on the iPhone, you really think so?

GTCC said:
Better camera on the iPhone, you really think so?
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yeah i can say iphone 6+'s front camera is better than note 4. i find it brighter and clearer compared to our phone but the main camera is way better than the iphone

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Better camera on the iPhone, you really think so?
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Yes,definitely Im talking about the front camera.Although I do find primary cameras of both equal
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wEaKlY27 said:
yeah i can say iphone 6+'s front camera is better than note 4. i find it brighter and clearer compared to our phone but the main camera is way better than the iphone
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Yes,definitely Im talking about the front camera.Although I do find primary cameras of both equal
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Sorry my mistake, I thought you were talking about rear camera, I'm dyslexic.

I think it depends on what and how you use your smart phone...
I have moved thru many phones. And always went back to the note series.
My reasons:
Big screen - really struggle with anything smaller than 5.5 inch
S-pen - love the note taking and has been massively improved for handwriting recognition in the note 4 compared to previous notes
Camera - i have used and compared with S5, iPhone 6 and 6+, LG g3, lumia 930 and HTC m8 and I gotta say I BELIEVE it's the best overall.
SD slot and usb on the go - i have 2 64gb cards and 3 32gb SanDisk usb/micro on the go sticks and they are used for work, movies and docs.
Removable battery - i am a very heavy user - monthly usage - 100gb mobile data, 1000 emails, 3000 txt/whatsapp, 40hrs calls average, I use thru out the day 2 full batteries lasting a combined of 17hrs approx (in retrospect iPhone 6+ lasts me 6/7hrs)
Thats me... Everyone is very different but for me Note series wins everytime
For reference these are phones I've used in last 24months in no order:
Note 3, Note 4, galaxy s4, galaxy s5, LG g3, HTC m8, HTC m7, lumia 930, iPhone 5s, iPhone 6, iPhone 6+, xperia ultra

wEaKlY27 said:
yeah i can say iphone 6+'s front camera is better than note 4. i find it brighter and clearer compared to our phone but the main camera is way better than the iphone
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I'm 110% sure that the front camera on the iPhone 6 Plus isn't even comparable with the front camera on the Note 4.
Not only is the front camera on the Note 4 much better in camera quality over the iPhone 6 Plus, but the front camera on the Note 4 even record videos in higher resolution than the main camera on the iPhone 6 Plus does. That alone tells us how much iPhone 6 / 6 Plus is behind the competition.
The front camera on the Note 4 can record videos in 1440p with pretty good quality. Here you have one video that is recorded with the front camera on the Note 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZakP0hjWT3g
And don't get me started on how bad the main camera on the iPhone 6 Plus is compared to the Note 4's main camera. Yes, the iPhone 6 Plus camera is still good, but the Note 4's main camera is in it's own league there and it's much much better when it comes to provinding details in the pictures.

Tom-Helge said:
And don't get me started on how bad the main camera on the iPhone 6 Plus is compared to the Note 4's main camera. Yes, the iPhone 6 Plus camera is still good, but the Note 4's main camera is in it's own league there and it's much much better when it comes to provinding details in the pictures.
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Really? I was testing today alongside my moto x 2014 and quality with all of them was much the same. Certainly do not think owning the devices that there is a big difference.
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Really? I was testing today alongside my moto x 2014 and quality with all of them was much the same. Certainly do not think owning the devices that there is a big difference.
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If you just looks at the pictures as you see them, then you might not see much differences. But once you start to see the pictures in full size, you will right away see that the camera on the iPhone 6 Plus can't keep up with the Note 4.
Here is a picture taken with the iPhone 6 Plus.
Now, here is the same picture taken with the Note 4.
Now take a look at the signs on the roof in those 2 pictures. Do you see the text there on the picture the iPhone 6 Plus have taken?
On the picture the Note 4 have taken, you can easily see the text there. On the iPhone 6 Plus picture, it's almost impossible to see the text there.
Here is a 100% crop of the iPhone 6 Plus picture.
Here is the 100% crop picture to the Note 4.
Again, the iPhone 6 Plus can't even be comparable to the Note 4 as the iPhone 6 Plus camera lacks the details in the pictures.
EDIT: Just to make my point evne stronger: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Gala...ts-a-Canon-DSLR-and-the-iPhone-6-Plus_id66093
The iPhone 6 Plus got crushed by the Note 4 in that blind camera test.

harkzph said:
Why wil you choose Galaxy note 4? comapare to other phablet . and its competitor iphone 6?
harkz.com/why-note-4
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Irritating question designed to bring all kinds of trollish responses. Since you have gone ahead and asked anyway. I chose both. I like both platforms and both these phones bring something unique in their own way. I prefer the note 4 for its camera for daylight and the iPhone 6 for lowlight and its consistency.
You cannot go wrong with either.

jayesh said:
Irritating question designed to bring all kinds of trollish responses. Since you have gone ahead and asked anyway. I chose both. I like both platforms and both these phones bring something unique in their own way. I prefer the note 4 for its camera for daylight and the iPhone 6 for lowlight and its consistency.
You cannot go wrong with either.
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You are spot on, I have both and they are both fantastic in their own way. However if a person wanted the best camera then the Note 4 is the one to go for.
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Really? I was testing today alongside my moto x 2014 and quality with all of them was much the same. Certainly do not think owning the devices that there is a big difference.
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Was that the Three Sisters by any chance? I heading back home in a few weeks and I'm bringing a few Brits(friends) with me to show them the crack and gods own country in the Kingdom, can't wait.

GTCC said:
Was that the Three Sisters by any chance? I heading back home in a few weeks and I'm bringing a few Brits(friends) with me to show them the crack and gods own country in the Kingdom, can't wait.
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No more northerly on Kerry coast that than the three sisters which are Ballydavid (Dingle Peninsula) direction. This would be closer to Kerry Head

Well, I like Apple ecosystem but Note 4 Super AMOLED screen is a deal breaker for me. I read a lot of manga (black and white japanese comics) on a phone and I say black looks more vivid on a Super AMOLED screen. I study japanese too so the ability to draw chinese letters (kanji) with a Spen is also great. I also have the liberty to just run Nintendo DS japanese kanji learning and drawing games with a stylus... Without having to carry the extra Nintendo DS weight... Thats impossible on a iPhone 6 Plus.

I really love the floating windows option.
Other than that, huge screen, spen, sflip cover, removable battery and expendable memory.
Kind regards, Stefan.

Photo Samples - Blind Comparison - Results are in!

I got a chance to play with the Galaxy S7 for a while at Best Buy this morning. Amazing device! Anyways, I thought it would be fun to create a little blind photo comparison between the S7 and another phone that I will not name yet. I took the same seven photos with each camera and they are randomized here. First review all of the photos and write down which letter, A or B, you think looks better for each photo number, and then submit your answers in the poll. When we've received a decent number of votes, I'll reveal what the other phone was and which phone took each photo and tally up a winner. Enjoy!
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Now that a fairly clear pattern has emerged, I think it's safe to tally the results. I really don't think these results would change significantly from this point, although now that I'm revealing which is which you'll have to take future poll changes with a grain of salt because fanboys for either phone could come in and vote based on the phone they like and not the photos.
The other phone was a Nexus 5X.
Results:
1) Tie (S7 12 - 5X 11)
2) Galaxy S7 (2A) wins (22 - 3)
3) Galaxy S7 (3B) wins (14 - 8)
4) Galaxy S7 (4A) wins (13 - 9)
5) Nexus 5X (5A) wins (20 - 1)
6) Nexus 5X (6A) wins (16 - 6)
7) Tie (S7 11 - 5X 11)
Total votes: (Basically a tie)
Galaxy S7: 79
Nexus 5X: 78
Doesn't get much closer than that. I would say these two phones are pretty evenly matched in this particular scenario. However, results could be different in other scenarios such as low light or outdoors in natural light. Also, it's worth mentioning that the Galaxy S7 focused and took photos much faster than the Nexus 5X, which is a big factor for a lot of people, and the camera app of the S7 is obviously leaps and bounds better and a joy to use, so you really have to give a slight nod to the S7 even though the end photos were about on par.
The shots from the Galaxy S7 are 1A, 2A, 3B, 4A, 5B, 6B, and 7A.
The shots from the Nexus 5X are 1B, 2B, 3A, 4B, 5A, 6A, and 7B, obviously haha.

1a-1b = same
2a-2b = the same
3a
4b
5a
6b (but very very yellow)
7a

Canard caché said:
1a-1b = same
2a-2b = the same
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6b (but very very yellow)
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I decided a poll might be a better way to compile the data, so you might want to enter your answers in that.

Honestly there isn't a big difference between any of the photos except of course for shots number 5. What it all comes down to is low-light photography, and how fast you can launch the camera and focus (not missing the shot is the important part; almost any decent high-end phone these days can take a good daylight photo).

Very difficult to choose the best however I noticed that the ones which are more lighter-whiter has slightly less detail or more distortion when I "deep" zoomed the pictures! But it is very very slightly and it is only for reference, not that it matters to me.I did put my vote but if I had an option to vote "No winner" , that will be an instant fairer vote than what I did now!

Toss3 said:
Honestly there isn't a big difference between any of the photos except of course for shots number 5. What it all comes down to is low-light photography, and how fast you can launch the camera and focus (not missing the shot is the important part; almost any decent high-end phone these days can take a good daylight photo).
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so it s not so good?

Most of these require you to look closely at the full size images to really spot a difference - and even then not always easy. Can't wait for the reveal to find out which is which, but a clear trend on the preferred results already.

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so it s not so good?
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For daylight photos it's no better than the Note 4, G4, S6, S6 Edge, iPhone 6, iPhone 6S, etc., but we pretty much knew that already. What really interests me, and I'm sure many others, is how well it does in low-light situations.

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For daylight photos it's no better than the Note 4, G4, S6, S6 Edge, iPhone 6, iPhone 6S, etc., but we pretty much knew that already. What really interests me, and I'm sure many others, is how well it does in low-light situations.
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yeah but even if s7 have a superb low light threatment (even what i saw didnt convince at all: you have the same with s6 and post threatment), if the "normal" conditions are blurry, with yellow filter and too much deformations, that not worth it...?

Canard caché said:
yeah but even if s7 have a superb low light threatment (even what i saw didnt convince at all: you have the same with s6 and post threatment), if the "normal" conditions are blurry, with yellow filter and too much deformations, that not worth it...?
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We'll see when the reviews are out. Pretty sure it's going to be a relatively good performer in low-light as far as smartphones are concerned (think samsung should start increasing the size of the sensor to make the photos actually look decent). Thinking about getting a really compact DSLR instead with a fixed lens instead as my Note 4 already takes pretty good photos, and the S7 isn't going to do much better (much faster sure, but pictures from an actual camera just look so much better).

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We'll see when the reviews are out. Pretty sure it's going to be a relatively good performer in low-light as far as smartphones are concerned (think samsung should start increasing the size of the sensor to make the photos actually look decent). Thinking about getting a really compact DSLR instead with a fixed lens instead as my Note 4 already takes pretty good photos, and the S7 isn't going to do much better (much faster sure, but pictures from an actual camera just look so much better).
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oh i don't want a dslr... i just want something better than my s6... and so far, it's not the case at all...

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oh i don't want a dslr... i just want something better than my s6... and so far, it's not the case at all...
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Pretty sure the S7 is going to be better than the S6, but not by much. You probably want to wait a year or two before upgrading, becasue there is only so much you can do with sensors at this size. The S6 already has a damn good smartphone camera and I'm not sure why you would want to switch so soon, when the differences aren't that big (if any). Looking at the Fuji X-M1 and 35mm F1.4mm lens currently, and pretty sure it would massacre any phone, and it really isn't that big.

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Pretty sure the S7 is going to be better than the S6, but not by much. You probably want to wait a year or two before upgrading, becasue there is only so much you can do with sensors at this size. The S6 already has a damn good smartphone camera and I'm not sure why you would want to switch so soon, when the differences aren't that big (if any). Looking at the Fuji X-M1 and 35mm F1.4mm lens currently, and pretty sure it would massacre any phone, and it really isn't that big.
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i have a pro compact so it's not the point here...

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i have a pro compact so it's not the point here...
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I know, just pointing out that if you want something significantly better than the S6, the S7 isn't it. Which compact do you have? Got to try out the S7 today at the store, and wasn't that impressed.

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Got to try out the S7 today at the store, and wasn't that impressed.
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i have to try too...

Now that a fairly clear pattern has emerged, I think it's safe to tally the results. I really don't think these results would change significantly from this point, although now that I'm revealing which is which you'll have to take future poll changes with a grain of salt because fanboys for either phone could come in and vote based on the phone they like and not the photos.
The other phone was a Nexus 5X.
Results:
1) Tie (S7 12 - 5X 11)
2) Galaxy S7 (2A) wins (22 - 3)
3) Galaxy S7 (3B) wins (14 - 8)
4) Galaxy S7 (4A) wins (13 - 9)
5) Nexus 5X (5A) wins (20 - 1)
6) Nexus 5X (6A) wins (16 - 6)
7) Tie (S7 11 - 5X 11)
Total votes: (Basically a tie)
Galaxy S7: 79
Nexus 5X: 78
Doesn't get much closer than that. I would say these two phones are pretty evenly matched in this particular scenario. However, results could be different in other scenarios such as low light or outdoors in natural light. Also, it's worth mentioning that the Galaxy S7 focused and took photos much faster than the Nexus 5X, which is a big factor for a lot of people, and the camera app of the S7 is obviously leaps and bounds better and a joy to use, so you really have to give a slight nod to the S7 even though the end photos were about on par.
The shots from the Galaxy S7 are 1A, 2A, 3B, 4A, 5B, 6B, and 7A.
The shots from the Nexus 5X are 1B, 2B, 3A, 4B, 5A, 6A, and 7B, obviously haha.

How did you get to play and take pictures with the LG5? Was there a demo at Best Buy as well? I'm going there today and I will judge for myself. I did my pre-order in already for the S7 Edge. Moving up from the Note 4.

Kilroy672 said:
How did you get to play and take pictures with the LG5? Was there a demo at Best Buy as well? I'm going there today and I will judge for myself. I did my pre-order in already for the S7 Edge. Moving up from the Note 4.
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I didn't. This is a comparison between the Galaxy S7 and Nexus 5X.

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I didn't. This is a comparison between the Galaxy S7 and Nexus 5X.
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I'm sorry, I missed that. All I saw was 5 and was thinking LG5...:silly:

If you are a human and not a Simpson`s character (pic 5B), the white balance is so off. Ugly yellow cast on almost all s7 photos. I hoped some of the pics, that turned out to be the 5X, was the new Galaxy. I was looking to upgrade my s6Edge with the S7, but for now I cant justify it regarding picture quality.
Other low light pics I`ve seen also give an heavy oil painting effect and little detail.
Its still early. Things can change with software updates. Thanks to O.P for a great post!

Note 20 Ultra Less Vivid & Less Bright than Note 20

Recently famous tech review channel "Unbox Therapy" posted a first impressions unboxing video of the Note 20 and Note 20 Ultra.
While comparing the 2 devices he happened to noticed when comparing the 2 models that the display of the ULTRA was way LESS vivid and LESS bright than the STANDARD Note 20.
He confirmed both were set to 100% brightness, both had adaptive brightness OFF, both were set to Vivid Screen Mode, and both had the white point in the center.
You can view the video and see the difference yourself in the video here....
Time stamp 8:50 if you just want to jump right when he realizes the display difference between them, and starts to troubleshoot this strange difference.
I was planning on potentially preordering the Note 20 Ultra so this really bothered me since I prefer a Vivid display. It shows on video he checked every setting except "Adaptive Color Filter" and "Enhanced Video."
My Testing and Results
So I knew I had to go to the store to see for myself and I went to Best Buy today and they had both the Note 20 & Note 20 Ultra on display.
Bad news... SAME exact results that Lew from Unbox Therapy had. See the pictures of all settings and testing I did below.
In all pictures the Note 20 Ultra is on the Left, the Standard Note 20 on the Right.
Brightness at Max for both displays, and Adaptive Brightness disabled for both devices, and Blue Light Filter disabled for both devices, and both devices set to Vivid mode.
Display Settings
Adaptive Color was also disabled on both devices.
Adaptive Color Filter
Notice the Standard Note 20 on the right has a brighter white point.
White Balance Comparison
This is a 4K UHD wallpaper I downloaded onto both devices. It's the exact same image from the same website. Notice that the Standard Note 20 on the right has more Vivid looking colors with better contrast.
Color Comparison
CONCLUSION:
After spending literally 30+ minutes standing there playing around with both phones, it seems the brightness is pretty close to the same on both. But the Standard Note 20 did seem to have a slight edge on 100% brightness. However the main big difference is the Standard Note 20 has more Vivid colors and Higher Contrast.
I do not think this is because the Note 20 Ultra display is not able to produce colors and contrast as Vivid as the Regular Note 20. I believe it just has to do with the display calibration in the hard coded software of the Ultra that is causing the colors to be more Natural than Vivid.
I came to the conclusion it was a software issue when I was watching the same YouTube video on both displays (Video Enhancer was disabled for both devices), and when playing the video the Ultra suddenly kicked into a more Vivid mode making it look nearly identical to the Regular Note.
Then when closing out of the video and to the YouTube home page it went back to a more Natural color and less contrast mode. Of course that was strange since video enhancer was disabled for both devices.
So this proves the display is capable of being Vivid with High Contrast, but just something in software that Samsung needs to calibrate in the Ultra model. Or maybe worse... potentially this was intentional by Samsung to help preserve battery since it is a 120hz display?
So Samsung needs to.... 1.) Crank up the Vividness of the Vivid mode to at least be Equal to the Standard Note and 2.) Fix video enhancement from turning on during YouTube videos when it's disabled in settings.
So I'm holding off to make a decision on whether to preorder or not since there is still about 12 days left. Meanwhile I hope that they push out a early release software update to fix the Vivid color profile on the Ultra. This is technically preproduction software so it COULD change with a software update, but there's of course no guarantee Samsung will fix this.
So if you prefer a Vivid display that Samsung is typically known for, then it is up to us as consumers to bring this to the attention of Samsung and popular Tech Reviewers, because Samsung doesn't know to fix this color calibration in software unless we make noise to let them know we want a Vivid display.
What is everyone's thoughts on this? Would this be a deal breaker for you on a $1,300 phone if the Vivid Colors and Contrast is noticeably less when compared to your Note 10+ or your S10/S10+ or S20/S20+? or do you prefer a more natural less vivid display?
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Hopefully also @dylanraga does a detailed display test on the Note 20 Ultra just like the awesome job he did with the OnePlus 8 Pro right here. That way we can see the actual technical results to further our evidence to bring to Samsung's attention.
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Further Confirmation of This Issue....
I asked Hayato Huseman (videographer/reviewer at Android Central) if he could check his Note 20 Ultra device. He did not have a regular Note 20 to compare, but confirmed the Note 20 Ultra is LESS Vivid than the S20 Ultra.
So that means people upgrading from a previous Galaxy will potentially be upgrading to a Less Vivid display in the Note 20 Ultra.
Very interesting and disappointing results for me personally. So now Unbox Therapy, and now Hayato from Android Central, and my personal testing have all confirmed the Note 20 Ultra isn't as Vivid as standard Note or Galaxys. I'm hoping a software update gets pushed out to resolve this.
Here is the Tweet where Hayato confirms this comparison if anyone wants to check it out.
https://twitter.com/hayatohuseman/status/1292588939195318273?s=19
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New Update!!! Some Note 20 Ultras might have dimmer and less vibrant display than other Note 20 Ultras.
This entire post was originally dedicated to the Note 20 Ultra having a less bright and less vivid display than the standard Note 20, and even the Note 10 Plus, Note 9, Note 8, S20/S20+/S20 Ultra, and OnePlus 8 Pro.
However this issue just took a more crazy turn for the worse. Now it has been discovered that some Note 20 Ultra phones have dimmer less vibrant displays than other Note 20 Ultra phones. Thats right... 2 of the same phones with [different looking displays. This was discovered thanks to Zack at JerryRigEverything YouTube channel when he was testing the 2 different processors.
Check out his video here
At time stamp 4:05 he says... "You might have also noticed the screen color is a bit different with both phones. I'm pretty sure I have the brightness turned up all the way on each. But it makes you wonder if there are other components that don't match up between the variants as well."
I have also attached a picture on page 6 of a post to show the difference. My Note 20 Ultra is a US Snapdragon variant and my display looks like the display on the left (Zach's exynos). I also noticed today that adaptive brightness is NOT fully turning off. I thought a few times over the past couple weeks I saw my display suddenly get brighter or dimmer. But I figured it was just my imagination because I always keep the adaptive brightness off.
However I am able to consistently reproduce it. If I put the brightness at 100% with adaptive brightness Off, then open chrome, the phone immediately dims 1 second after. Then brightens back at the home screen. Try it on your phone. Maybe the out of wack adaptive brightness is a separate issue, or maybe this could be the culprit to these dimmer less vivid displays. So I wanted to mention it too.
I also was able to reproduce it in a different scenario by putting my phone inches away from a bright light in my bathroom while on 100% manual brightness, notice it get brighter without me touching anything, then take it away from the light quickly, then see it dim right in front of my face. Looks like its dropping a solid 20% brightness but the slider doesn't change position. Still shows 100%!
Please test those 2 scenarios on your phone let everyone know if it happens to you too. Also if someone happens to have 2 Note 20 Ultras or know someone who does, then please compare the displays and post 2 pictures. One showing the 2 displays on the google.com homepage in chrome and 1 showing the display section in settings.
Anyone who had a noticeably dimmer display than 1 of your previous Samsung phones made in the past 2 years, then please contact Samsung support and report this. I will be contacting them for the first time about this issue and pushing them for a resolution. Even if that means exchanging for another Note 20 Ultra.

I prefer a more natural looking display like my iPhone LOL.
However, I agree, if someone WANTS inaccurate oversaturated colors then it should be available to them.
That is why stereos have bass and treble controls.

Honestly not real worried about it. Unless you have both side by side shouldn't ever notice. Now if it doesn't look better then my note 10+ then we will have a problem
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At 60hz it's more easy to calibrate the screen colour than a 120hz since there is more variables. That's why Pixel 4 XL has problems at lower brightness at launch since it wasn't calibrated.

Did you disable enhanced video mode on both of them?

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Did you disable enhanced video mode on both of them?
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Yep! I mention that in my original post. Read in the conclusion section.
Also the picture of me comparing colors is not a video. That is a downloaded a wallpaper. So even if it was turned on, that setting should not affect pictures to my knowledge.

cpufrost said:
I prefer a more natural looking display like my iPhone LOL.
However, I agree, if someone WANTS inaccurate oversaturated colors then it should be available to them.
That is why stereos have bass and treble controls.
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Yes! Exactly!! Everyone has different preferences. The option should be there for those who want. Plus what's the point of having a vivid display option when it's not that vivid? That kind of defeats the purpose of the setting existing.
Plus Samsung says on their website that the Ultra is the most Vivid display on any Galaxy. Clearly that's not the case when comparing it to the standard Note 20. Since their website claims it's supposed to be the most vivid, that indicates the Ultra display is not supposed to be this way and something might be messed up in the software that is preventing it from being as vivid as they claim it should be, so they just need to roll out an update to fix it.

oneandroidnut said:
Honestly not real worried about it. Unless you have both side by side shouldn't ever notice. Now if it doesn't look better then my note 10+ then we will have a problem
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It's definitely not more vivid than my S10+ but I didn't take any pictures of that. It seems to be about the same Vividness as my S10+ which is strange.
Not sure about the Note 10+ but probably same results since it wasn't more Vivid than my S10+. I highly recommend going to compare it to your Note 10+ in person.

MrPhilo said:
At 60hz it's more easy to calibrate the screen colour than a 120hz since there is more variables. That's why Pixel 4 XL has problems at lower brightness at launch since it wasn't calibrated.
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Good point! I actually did briefly put the Note 20 Ultra into 60hz then compared again. I got the same results. Still not as Vivid as the Standard Note 20. I just didn't mention it in my original post because results were the same as using 120hz from what I could tell.

Could it be as simple as pre-release software, or unlikely?
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Could it be as simple as pre-release software, or unlikely?
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Yes, that could definitely be the problem. That it's a bug in their pre-production software that Samsung have not yet noticed.
If you read my conclusion section in my original post I talk about why my testing indicated it seemed to be a software calibration problem and not a problem with the physical display panel.
So that's good, it means they could push out an update to fix it later. Of course there is no guarantee. They will likely only do that if several consumers complain about this issue of the Ultra not being very Vivid in the Vivid display mode.

AndroidPurity said:
Yes, that could definitely be the problem. That it's a bug in their pre-production software that Samsung have not yet noticed.
If you read my conclusion section in my original post I talk about why my testing indicated it seemed to be a software calibration problem and not a problem with the physical display panel.
So that's good, it means they could push out an update to fix it later. Of course there is no guarantee. They will likely only do that if several consumers complain about this issue of the Ultra not being very Vivid in the Vivid display mode.
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I did read your whole post, I just needed it dumbed down for myself.
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I did read your whole post, I just needed it dumbed down for myself.
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Lol! Okay fair enough! Although what I worry about the most is they are doing this limit on Vividness to save battery. In which case means they would not fix it.
The only reason I don't think that it's on purpose is because they claim on their website the Ultra display is the most Vivid Galaxy ever.

I assume it's the flat screen? Or maybe not the 2x? I don't know what that means on the ultra
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I asked Hayato Huseman (videographer/reviewer at Android Central) if he could check his Note 20 Ultra device. He did not have a regular Note 20 to compare, but confirmed the Note 20 Ultra is LESS Vivid than the S20 Ultra.
So that means people upgrading from an S20 or S10 will potentially be upgrading to a Less Vivid display in the Note 20 Ultra.
Very interesting and disappointing results for me personally. So now Unbox Therapy, and my in store comparison testing, and Hayato from Android Crntral have all confirmed the Note 20 Ultra isn't very Vivid. I'm hoping a software update gets pushed out to resolve this.
Here is the Tweet where Hayato confirms this comparison if anyone wants to check it out.
https://twitter.com/hayatohuseman/status/1292588939195318273?s=19

I saw that review from Unbox Therapy (He is really my favorite reviewer - funny but very informative)
Anyway - like virtually all of the Samsung Devices I have ordered pre-orders for (virtually every single major release since the S4 I think) I have gotten sort of used to these little faux pas on their major releases - the last phone, Galaxy 20 Ultra had the notorious problems with Auto Focus....and just about every other phone they launched had something that eventually was fixed - so anyway, I kind of expect something to happen each time a new samsung phone is released - while I am not super happy that this appears to be going to happen again with the new note, it seems like it should be relatively easy to fix with an update, once Samsung figures it out...and I do expect they will find and fix it pretty soon.
Thankfully, it doesn't appear to be as big as the battery issues of the Note 7 or the Auto Focus of the S20....Fingers Crossed it gets fixed soon after release...

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I assume it's the flat screen? Or maybe not the 2x? I don't know what that means on the ultra
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No, a flat screen would not make a display more Vivid if that is what you're wondering. There has been many curved Samsung displays that were Vivid.
I don't know what you mean by "the 2x" what are you referring to? Where did you see that?

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I don't know what you mean by "the 2x" what are you referring to? Where did you see that?
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Straight from Samsung website. I thought maybe it meant twice the refresh but then it still says 120 hz so idk
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Geekser said:
I saw that review from Unbox Therapy (He is really my favorite reviewer - funny but very informative)
Anyway - like virtually all of the Samsung Devices I have ordered pre-orders for (virtually every single major release since the S4 I think) I have gotten sort of used to these little faux pas on their major releases - the last phone, Galaxy 20 Ultra had the notorious problems with Auto Focus....and just about every other phone they launched had something that eventually was fixed - so anyway, I kind of expect something to happen each time a new samsung phone is released - while I am not super happy that this appears to be going to happen again with the new note, it seems like it should be relatively easy to fix with an update, once Samsung figures it out...and I do expect they will find and fix it pretty soon.
Thankfully, it doesn't appear to be as big as the battery issues of the Note 7 or the Auto Focus of the S20....Fingers Crossed it gets fixed soon after release...
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I love how optimistic you are! I hope you're right! Still gonna hold off on the preorder until reviews start to come out over the next few days. Then make my final decision.
Hopefully a reviewer with close connections to Samsung brings it to their attention, so then we can get confirmation they are aware of the issue and working to fix it. Then I will feel better about pre-ordering. I really hope it is fixed, because it seems like the perfect phone in every other way besides this.

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Straight from Samsung website. I thought maybe it meant twice the refresh but then it still says 120 hz so idk
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Ah Okay I see. I'm not really sure either. I searched that on Google and the display on the S20 Ultra was also called that. I think it's Samsung's way of saying like version 2 of their Dynamic AMOLED. But not sure either. Couldn't really find any explanation.