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Z3 vs Note 4 Battery and Camera

I have sony z2 i get bored of devices really quick and it's time for a upgrade. I only care for camera and battery life the most. So which out of these 2 devices you guys think will be great device for camera and battery life?
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Go check out the blind camera test comparison on Phonearena. The Note 4 did well the Z3 not so great. Consider the fact that the Note 4 and iPhone 6 and Plus all use Sony camera modules and take better pictures. The Z3 is just as capable but needs a software update to compete with them.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...comparison-iPhone-6-is-distant-second_id61676
As for battery life the Z3 and Note 4 are both great, however if you surf the web alot the AMOLED screen will actually use a lot more power than an LCD and also AMOLED is prone to screen burn as the organic phosphors wear out. The blue is the one affected typically having 8000 Hrs to 1/2 brightness. I have seen 2-3 month old phones with burn in (Display models are on 24 hrs at full brightness). If you are a casual user the Note 4 might be better but for heavy users you will most likely get noticable burn in before your 2 year contract is up.
This table is a bit dated and both LCD and AMOLED have come a long way but still useful.
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Overall I think the Z3 is the best option right now, I am sure they will make the camera better in the next update. I like Samsung but hate AMOLED so I am biased in a way.

Note 4 for Camera
Z3 for Battery
You shouldn't really be upgrading from a z2 unless your not bothered about spending money. The z2 is as good as the note 4 or the z3.
I personally would go for the z3 because touchwiz is just too much ontop of android wheras Sony just keep things almost stock like.
That ontop of the fact that quad hd screens are pointless. They actually have too many drawbacks like frame drops higher battery drain. They just aren't as smooth as 1080p displays yet.

If you're bored easily go for the note4. The z3 isn't that different from the z2 and unfortunately sony screws up with the camera software (and there is no reason to believe they'll improve it that much given the past.) Note4 wins on camera overall imo.
Z3 wins in battery but note4 shouldbdo fine there as well...

abhinav.tella said:
Go check out the blind camera test comparison on Phonearena. The Note 4 did well the Z3 not so great. Consider the fact that the Note 4 and iPhone 6 and Plus all use Sony camera modules and take better pictures. The Z3 is just as capable but needs a software update to compete with them.
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I don't agree. Also, it's true Sony makes all of the sensors, but the Z3 camera uses a 1/2.3" sensor whereas the others use a 1/3" sensor
Are you basing you opinion off of one review site? I don't think that's a good assessment.

se1000 said:
I don't agree. Also, it's true Sony makes all of the sensors, but the Z3 camera uses a 1/2.3" sensor whereas the others use a 1/3" sensor
Are you basing you opinion off of one review site? I don't think that's a good assessment.
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That link was only a blind camera comparison not a phone review by the way.
I mean Note is not bad at all but for me AMOLED kills it. I keep 2 year contracts so I get OCD about burn in lol. Just my opinion by the way.
Battery life varies based on what you use it for, webpages LCD is much better, videos oled.... LCD of current generation are getting close to oleds in efficiency in videos etc.

Battery: Z3 better about 1-1.5h Screen on time
Camera: Note 4 better accept extreme low light.
Samsung TW heavier, lagger but much more functions.
Note 4 will have much more custom Roms, Kernels, Mods so you will improve battery with after next some months.

Zanr Zij said:
Battery: Z3 better about 1-1.5h Screen on time
Camera: Note 4 better accept extreme low light.
Samsung TW heavier, lagger but much more functions.
Note 4 will have much more custom Roms, Kernels, Mods so you will improve battery with after next some months.
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Don't forget to write note 4 snapdragon variant
Exynos is famous for bad development

darkrai said:
Don't forget to write note 4 snapdragon variant
Exynos is famous for bad development
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I believe this time will change. Exynos variant will have much more development due to better CPU performance, 64bit suppport promising

Zanr Zij said:
I believe this time will change. Exynos variant will have much more development due to better CPU performance, 64bit suppport promising
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Never did happen with older sammy phones
Z3 is much better than exynos n4 in battery and is as good as snapdragon n4
In display, no phone can beat note 4 in it (except brightness)
I prefer z3's camera over note 4

darkrai said:
Never did happen with older sammy phones
Z3 is much better than exynos n4 in battery and is as good as snapdragon n4
In display, no phone can beat note 4 in it (except brightness)
I prefer z3's camera over note 4
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I already used Snap N4 a week. I'm sure that Z3 battery better, atleast 1h SoT.
Display: N4 is not the best, of course very good. It has a bit yellow tint. I compared N4 next to Dell UltraSharp calibrated.
It also is not good for your eyes due to too high contrast.

The Note 4's 16MP rear camera flaunts the fastest focusing speed owing to its latest ISOCELL sensor technology which is boosted by Galaxy S5's phase-detection auto-focus capability.
The new Note 4 also features optical image stabilisation feature for its rear camera and a 3.7MP front camera for capturing selfies as well as full HD video recording at 30fps.
In contrast, the Xperia Z3 sports an imposing 20.7MP rear camera with 8x digital zoom and 3x clear image zoom, and a compact 2.2MP front camera for capturing 1080p (Full HD) video at 30fps.

inaya45 said:
The Note 4's 16MP rear camera flaunts the fastest focusing speed owing to its latest ISOCELL sensor technology which is boosted by Galaxy S5's phase-detection auto-focus capability.
The new Note 4 also features optical image stabilisation feature for its rear camera and a 3.7MP front camera for capturing selfies as well as full HD video recording at 30fps.
In contrast, the Xperia Z3 sports an imposing 20.7MP rear camera with 8x digital zoom and 3x clear image zoom, and a compact 2.2MP front camera for capturing 1080p (Full HD) video at 30fps.
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Note 4 uses a Sony module, the GS5 uses ISOCELL.

abhinav.tella said:
Note 4 uses a Sony module, the GS5 uses ISOCELL.
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Note 4 sensor: Sony on Snapdragon, ISOCELL on Exynos.

Zanr Zij said:
Note 4 sensor: Sony on Snapdragon, ISOCELL on Exynos.
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My bad, thanks for the info.

Why Samsung Galaxy note 4?

Why wil you choose Galaxy note 4? comapare to other phablet . and its competitor iphone 6?
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For me the reason is simple, it has more features and productive. My brother has the iphone 6+ and it felt
like using the my old iphone 5 except the 6+ is bigger.

for me really i dont know i just wanted to buy lg g flex 2 but i found it lag like hell
i tried to fet htc phaplet but did not find one with big scree
i bought note 4 with snapdragin 805
but really dont like heat so much and else lag sometimes
but i love the pen and the fantastic screen

[Q] Why Samsung Galaxy note 4?
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Why wil you choose Galaxy note 4? comapare to other phablet . and its competitor iphone 6?
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The iPhone 6 is not a phablet
I have both the Note 4 & iPhone 6+
I use both about the same and change which is my daily driver every few days.
Hardware wise they are very different, but really that hasn't made much difference to me in my day to day use of either device as I tend to use the exact same apps on both devices.
Screenwise :- I honestly can't say I can see a difference between the 1080p screen v the 2k screen. Both just look like great screens - though the iPhones does get brighter and is easier to see in outside daylight. The Note 4's gets dimmer and more comfortable at nighttime.
Speakers :- the iPhone 6+ speaker is clearer than the Note 4's which can sound a little tinny and distorted at full volume.
Camera :- main cameras outside of megapixel differences are able to capture very similar results with neither being much better than the other. 1080p recording on iPhone 6+ does benefit with much better OIS over the Note 4 - however Note 4's 4k recording is some of the best 4k quality I've seen on a smartphone and clearly iPhone can't do that.
Removable storage and battery are nice to have but aren't deal breakers for me.
Note 4 main benefits are mainly the S-Pen features for me. I can doodle / etch a picture on the fly. I can scribble down notes quickly.
The customisability is too its strength.
IPhone 6+ strength is its software consistency and fluidity.
People will tell you that Note 4 is better at multitasking and iPhone 6+ is terrible because of less ram and yet on current lollipop builds I find it's the iPhone 6+ that handles multitasking better despite 3x less ram.
On KitKat they are similar in my daily experience but with a nudge to the Note 4.
Here's my Lollipop experience. Notice the Note 4 has to refresh app content in many applications and the iPhone 6+ doesn't despite less ram. Most of these were Google apps that I use every day.
Battery wise they are similar too but with nudge this time going to iPhone 6+
IPhone 6 version is poor battery wise compared to either.
Overall I think both a great handsets and a person will be served greatly by either (or both as I am).....
Buy in confidence whichever you choose.

becouse specs

Note 4 for Faster charging,cheap,very good screen,customisation but iphone 6 plus is faster in terms of app opening & better front camera,fingerprint scanning,its iphone name.
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RISHI RAJ said:
Note 4 for Faster charging,cheap,very good screen,customisation but iphone 6 plus is faster in terms of app opening & better front camera,fingerprint scanning,its iphone name.
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Better camera on the iPhone, you really think so?

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Better camera on the iPhone, you really think so?
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yeah i can say iphone 6+'s front camera is better than note 4. i find it brighter and clearer compared to our phone but the main camera is way better than the iphone

GTCC said:
Better camera on the iPhone, you really think so?
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Yes,definitely Im talking about the front camera.Although I do find primary cameras of both equal
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wEaKlY27 said:
yeah i can say iphone 6+'s front camera is better than note 4. i find it brighter and clearer compared to our phone but the main camera is way better than the iphone
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Yes,definitely Im talking about the front camera.Although I do find primary cameras of both equal
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Sorry my mistake, I thought you were talking about rear camera, I'm dyslexic.

I think it depends on what and how you use your smart phone...
I have moved thru many phones. And always went back to the note series.
My reasons:
Big screen - really struggle with anything smaller than 5.5 inch
S-pen - love the note taking and has been massively improved for handwriting recognition in the note 4 compared to previous notes
Camera - i have used and compared with S5, iPhone 6 and 6+, LG g3, lumia 930 and HTC m8 and I gotta say I BELIEVE it's the best overall.
SD slot and usb on the go - i have 2 64gb cards and 3 32gb SanDisk usb/micro on the go sticks and they are used for work, movies and docs.
Removable battery - i am a very heavy user - monthly usage - 100gb mobile data, 1000 emails, 3000 txt/whatsapp, 40hrs calls average, I use thru out the day 2 full batteries lasting a combined of 17hrs approx (in retrospect iPhone 6+ lasts me 6/7hrs)
Thats me... Everyone is very different but for me Note series wins everytime
For reference these are phones I've used in last 24months in no order:
Note 3, Note 4, galaxy s4, galaxy s5, LG g3, HTC m8, HTC m7, lumia 930, iPhone 5s, iPhone 6, iPhone 6+, xperia ultra

wEaKlY27 said:
yeah i can say iphone 6+'s front camera is better than note 4. i find it brighter and clearer compared to our phone but the main camera is way better than the iphone
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I'm 110% sure that the front camera on the iPhone 6 Plus isn't even comparable with the front camera on the Note 4.
Not only is the front camera on the Note 4 much better in camera quality over the iPhone 6 Plus, but the front camera on the Note 4 even record videos in higher resolution than the main camera on the iPhone 6 Plus does. That alone tells us how much iPhone 6 / 6 Plus is behind the competition.
The front camera on the Note 4 can record videos in 1440p with pretty good quality. Here you have one video that is recorded with the front camera on the Note 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZakP0hjWT3g
And don't get me started on how bad the main camera on the iPhone 6 Plus is compared to the Note 4's main camera. Yes, the iPhone 6 Plus camera is still good, but the Note 4's main camera is in it's own league there and it's much much better when it comes to provinding details in the pictures.

Tom-Helge said:
And don't get me started on how bad the main camera on the iPhone 6 Plus is compared to the Note 4's main camera. Yes, the iPhone 6 Plus camera is still good, but the Note 4's main camera is in it's own league there and it's much much better when it comes to provinding details in the pictures.
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Really? I was testing today alongside my moto x 2014 and quality with all of them was much the same. Certainly do not think owning the devices that there is a big difference.
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nookcoloruser said:
Really? I was testing today alongside my moto x 2014 and quality with all of them was much the same. Certainly do not think owning the devices that there is a big difference.
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If you just looks at the pictures as you see them, then you might not see much differences. But once you start to see the pictures in full size, you will right away see that the camera on the iPhone 6 Plus can't keep up with the Note 4.
Here is a picture taken with the iPhone 6 Plus.
Now, here is the same picture taken with the Note 4.
Now take a look at the signs on the roof in those 2 pictures. Do you see the text there on the picture the iPhone 6 Plus have taken?
On the picture the Note 4 have taken, you can easily see the text there. On the iPhone 6 Plus picture, it's almost impossible to see the text there.
Here is a 100% crop of the iPhone 6 Plus picture.
Here is the 100% crop picture to the Note 4.
Again, the iPhone 6 Plus can't even be comparable to the Note 4 as the iPhone 6 Plus camera lacks the details in the pictures.
EDIT: Just to make my point evne stronger: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Gala...ts-a-Canon-DSLR-and-the-iPhone-6-Plus_id66093
The iPhone 6 Plus got crushed by the Note 4 in that blind camera test.

harkzph said:
Why wil you choose Galaxy note 4? comapare to other phablet . and its competitor iphone 6?
harkz.com/why-note-4
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Irritating question designed to bring all kinds of trollish responses. Since you have gone ahead and asked anyway. I chose both. I like both platforms and both these phones bring something unique in their own way. I prefer the note 4 for its camera for daylight and the iPhone 6 for lowlight and its consistency.
You cannot go wrong with either.

jayesh said:
Irritating question designed to bring all kinds of trollish responses. Since you have gone ahead and asked anyway. I chose both. I like both platforms and both these phones bring something unique in their own way. I prefer the note 4 for its camera for daylight and the iPhone 6 for lowlight and its consistency.
You cannot go wrong with either.
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You are spot on, I have both and they are both fantastic in their own way. However if a person wanted the best camera then the Note 4 is the one to go for.
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Really? I was testing today alongside my moto x 2014 and quality with all of them was much the same. Certainly do not think owning the devices that there is a big difference.
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Was that the Three Sisters by any chance? I heading back home in a few weeks and I'm bringing a few Brits(friends) with me to show them the crack and gods own country in the Kingdom, can't wait.

GTCC said:
Was that the Three Sisters by any chance? I heading back home in a few weeks and I'm bringing a few Brits(friends) with me to show them the crack and gods own country in the Kingdom, can't wait.
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No more northerly on Kerry coast that than the three sisters which are Ballydavid (Dingle Peninsula) direction. This would be closer to Kerry Head

Well, I like Apple ecosystem but Note 4 Super AMOLED screen is a deal breaker for me. I read a lot of manga (black and white japanese comics) on a phone and I say black looks more vivid on a Super AMOLED screen. I study japanese too so the ability to draw chinese letters (kanji) with a Spen is also great. I also have the liberty to just run Nintendo DS japanese kanji learning and drawing games with a stylus... Without having to carry the extra Nintendo DS weight... Thats impossible on a iPhone 6 Plus.

I really love the floating windows option.
Other than that, huge screen, spen, sflip cover, removable battery and expendable memory.
Kind regards, Stefan.

Moving from Note 4

Has anyone switched from Note 4 to S6E? I have Note 4 and I love it. The main concern is that after Note display might me too small.
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Will be leaving my beloved Note 4 behind for a 64 or 128gb S6E. Although, I'll just get the Note 5 when that comes out.

LpSk8r said:
Will be leaving my beloved Note 4 behind for a 64 or 128gb S6E. Although, I'll just get the Note 5 when that comes out.
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Same here. We're all pathetic addicts!

I will be leaving the Note 4 behind as well. I thought i would love the Note but after seeing and playing with the S6 Edge i changed my mind! I wont miss the screen size or the Spen.

Love my Note 4 but have the S6 Edge on order, waiting for it to be delivered. I LOVE the note 4 for its camera and battery life, but the screen size or s-pen never did anything for me. I prefer a small one handed phone with an equally good camera, which I am hoping the S6 is.

But I wanna see response of galaxy s 6 edge in market if it get good rating then I ll buy it.
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I'm probably going to be jumping my note 4 also. I've lived without the SD and battery slot. Not too much of a problem. Also the pen and screen size isn't too bad. I'm liloving the feel and style of the edge and the raw power of the processor compared to anything else in these 2k smartphones

Good to know that I'm not the only one I have ordered black edge but still have to wait for a month here :/

Moving from the Note Edge to the 128gb Edge in black (preorder on ATT) - will miss the app shortcuts on the big Edge, hoping some dev will replicate that functionality as honestly it's the only benefit of the Note Edge. Given how rarely I take the pen out, I won't be missing that...

I dont think I'll sell my note 4 is just a month old lol. I will wait for the emerald green edge though and wait for the price to drop a bit

You guys are forgetting the difference in battery size vs the note 4... early reviews have showed the s6 getting 4 hours of on screen time...
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You guys are forgetting the difference in battery size vs the note 4... early reviews have showed the s6 getting 4 hours of on screen time...
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Yes I'll miss the note 4 battery life. But I'll take the smaller size and ease of use. I'm not a phablet person. I had a Nexus 6 and now the note 4 and neither did anything for me.

Add me to the list of soon to be former Note 4 owners. I LOVE my Note 4, and I swore I could never go for a smaller screen, but even after all the complaining I've done about the lack of a removable battery and Micro SD card slot, the Exynos 7420 and curved screen has me sold.
I ordered mine on Friday morning, but since I picked the slowest Ground shipping, I'm getting mine tomorrow. The Galaxy S6 is a beautiful phone. The screen looks slightly better than the Note 4, thanks to the Edge and higher PPI. Such an awesome phone. With that said, I will Jump! to the Note 5 day zero. I feel sorry for Samsung engineers for having to step up an already awesome phone (Galaxy S6) with the Note 5. Don't be surprised if they squeeze a 4K screen in the Note 5 just to have an improvement.

I like small phones but love the Note 4 Camera also.
The S6 Camera is the same Sensor as Note 4 with a wider lens and different software-
You should have your wish, maybe a hair less sharp than Note 4 cause of wider field of view but lower noise better low light more control in Pro Mode...
AND may even be sharper in some photos than Note 4 ...
This is a top Camera I just hope the Battery is 6 hours + of SOT at 25% brightness before I buy one .

i sold my note 4 already with a pre order on the gold Edge... i remember going from the note 3 to the NExus 5 and it was an adjustment...
that's why i have a oneplus to satisfy my 5.5 inch screen needs ; >

robertkoa said:
I like small phones but love the Note 4 Camera also.
The S6 Camera is the same Sensor as Note 4 with a wider lens and different software-
You should have your wish, maybe a hair less sharp than Note 4 cause of wider field of view but lower noise better low light more control in Pro Mode...
AND may even be sharper in some photos than Note 4 ...
This is a top Camera I just hope the Battery is 6 hours + of SOT at 25% brightness before I buy one .
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Not gonna happen bro

robertkoa said:
I like small phones but love the Note 4 Camera also.
The S6 Camera is the same Sensor as Note 4 with a wider lens and different software-
You should have your wish, maybe a hair less sharp than Note 4 cause of wider field of view but lower noise better low light more control in Pro Mode...
AND may even be sharper in some photos than Note 4 ...
This is a top Camera I just hope the Battery is 6 hours + of SOT at 25% brightness before I buy one .
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Yeah, this is what I am worried about. I really really want the S6 to outdo my Note 4 on the camera front, but blind tests are showing that the Note 4 photos are sharper. And I personally like a tad bit over saturation in the photos which the Note 4 does well.
It is going to be very hard to beat the Note 4 camera, which is the best camera in any smartphone I've ever had.

I have the note and the edge, and the note camera is way to noisy in low light

xxaarraa said:
Yes I'll miss the note 4 battery life. But I'll take the smaller size and ease of use. I'm not a phablet person. I had a Nexus 6 and now the note 4 and neither did anything for me.
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all we need is a Power Bank
Im waiting for th 128gb version

I've had my S6 Edge for over a week and don't miss my Note 4. I didn't use the s-pen and didn't care about not having a sd card or removeable battery though. I was a little concerned about getting a smaller screen but it doesn't bother me. If I didn't have a Jump then I wouldn't have got the S6. I'm impressed with the S6 Edge build quality, sharpness of the screen and how thin it is. I like having a smaller phone for the summer. When I saw it I had to have her. Hehe. I just like looking and playing with her. LoL
LG 4 looks nice but Samsung set the bar high with the S6
Love this offical Samsung case. Adds no balk and doesn't hide the beauty of the phone.
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dxomark just rated the LG G6 camera an 84, agree or disagree?

By comparison, the G4 was rated 83 and the G5 85. Also, the OnePlus 5 was rated 87. Galaxy S7 and S8 were both rated 88. And the Pixel and HTC U11 were rated 89 and 90, respectively. I thought the G6 would be rated 87 or 88.
What sites are recommended for smartphone camera reviews? Is dxomark considered trustworthy?

No, not really, they have been proven to be unreliable when it comes to phone reviews. They gave 1+5 stabilization 87 (it has no ois and 4k is shaky as an earthquake), and they gave g6 - 84. That should tell you enough.

DxO should not be held as bastions of smartphone camera quality. They have given a number of devices high scores which clearly were undeserved or not representative of actual real usage. Xperia Z5 for example or even last year's HTC 10 which whilst every reviewer acknowledged camera software was buggy to say the least at launch, leading to very blurry images, DxO testing ignored that and awarded it what was then its highest score.
With OEM's now openly tuning their software to score better DxO marks and many paying DxO for the privilege, the validity of their artificial testing methodology and what it actually means for end users is an ever growing disparity.
I have both the Pixel, S8, iPhone 7+ and G6. Whilst I acknowledge the G6's main sensor or moreover the post processing of its software isn't as good, the extra versatility it's extra wide angle lens affords in real world usage makes it special. Offering photo opportunities I simply do not get in my other devices.
If your happy with the end results, DxO means sweet nothing, and is just as much about posturing as those who obsess over other artificial metrics and benchmarks that have little in common with real world usage.
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I still like the gsmarena charts (normal light and low-light)
But, since the manual mode became a thing (finally). I would honestly want to see multiple ISOs and RAW. I use RAW quite a lot (especially since snapseed works with it on the phone so I don't have to wait for a PC) and I remember clearly switching from LG G4 to S6 and S7 that the photos were underwhelming compared to G4. Especially low light long exposure ones.
I don't care that much for "who has the best jpeg out of the box" thing. If I have an important photo I will go through it in photoshop and apply different levels of noise reduction where necessary. If it's not that important I'll just finish it up in Snapseed and/or just straight up send the jpeg.
Also, I'm not that satisfied with the G5 camera. It's not a bad camera, far from it. But I wish that it would have been bigger (and more pixels like 16MP or more) and/or same megapixel count (since dual cameras so you basically have an optical zoom on it between wide and "normal") and larger sensor.
I am really interested in what the Red phone/camera will bring to the table and Nokia (coming back) also. I really wish for something like a nokia pureview 808 sensor size camera setup (or dual camera).

Mad_Duke said:
Also, I'm not that satisfied with the G5 camera. It's not a bad camera, far from it. But I wish that it would have been bigger (and more pixels like 16MP or more) and/or same megapixel count (since dual cameras so you basically have an optical zoom on it between wide and "normal") and larger sensor.
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You mean G6 r8?
Why they didn't get the idea 1st like the samsung new isocell sensor that can be configured in three different ways – Zoom, Depth sensing and Low Light shooting!

Yep. My bad when talking in a same post about G4 G6 S6 and S7 hahaha

nookcoloruser said:
I have both the Pixel, S8, iPhone 7+ and G6. Whilst I acknowledge the G6's main sensor or moreover the post processing of its software isn't as good, the extra versatility it's extra wide angle lens affords in real world usage makes it special. Offering photo opportunities I simply do not get in my other devices.
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I am disagree with your statement.They use the crap cheap mediocre sensor (IMX258) which Xiaomi & other oem use on there midrange phone.But Lg highly optimize there camera algorithm.You can check the photo compare on gsmarena or phonearen with this same sensor.

sagor1 said:
I am disagree with your statement.They use the crap cheap mediocre sensor (IMX258) which Xiaomi & other oem use on there midrange phone.But Lg highly optimize there camera algorithm.You can check the photo compare on gsmarena or phonearen with this same sensor.
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LG may have better post processing than Xiaomi but compared to Google and even Apple - its post processing is not as good. HDR is too aggressive and LG has a tendency to over sharpen.
Comparison is made to the top smartphone cameras - devices it clearly is in competition with - not some mid range ****e that no one really gives a feck about anyway.
The G6 camera is very good but it's strengths come more from the versatility the two cameras offer rather than it's software post processing.

nookcoloruser said:
LG may have better post processing than Xiaomi but compared to Google and even Apple - its post processing is not as good. HDR is too aggressive and LG has a tendency to over sharpen.
Comparison is made to the top smartphone cameras - devices it clearly is in competition with - not some mid range ****e that no one really gives a feck about anyway.
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I never said it's good as apple or pixel,because they use better sensor.I just appreciated their post processing method with this sensor.
Btw in Androidauthority blind test the g6 is winner.
I don't like the iPhone camera.

http://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-5-camera-shootout-780369/
Interesting that in this poll with 67,000 votes the LG G6 came out on top over the S8, OnePlus 5, HTC U11, and Pixel. I am not sure what to believe. It seems all of these camera are pretty close to one another in terms of picture quality.

htcnext said:
http://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-5-camera-shootout-780369/
Interesting that in this poll with 67,000 votes the LG G6 came out on top over the S8, OnePlus 5, HTC U11, and Pixel. I am not sure what to believe. It seems all of these camera are pretty close to one another in terms of picture quality.
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That is paid by LG

Ciro54 said:
That is paid by LG
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Oh no, my xzp is not on top, must be rigged
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Very interesting camera shootout...S8 vs G6...and guess who win? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRQ7tWyA5NQ

Android Central chime in and essentially echo everything I have said about DxO and their at best 'flawed' scoring system.
https://m.androidcentral.com/editors-desk-dxomark-worthless
"Reducing a smartphone camera to a percentage score has the problem of being at once too vague and too specific. A number — a non-weighted average — doesn't do justice to the complexity of modern smartphone cameras, where performance can vary widely depending on the situation, and not all factors are equally important. At the same time, a score out of 100 implies precision. The OnePlus 5, Huawei P10 and Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+ are all equally good, the numbers tell us. The LG G6 and Moto G4 Plus, also equal, with DxO scores of 84. Anyone who's used these devices out in the real world will tell you the reality is not even close..."
"There's also a one-point difference between a Samsung Galaxy S8 and a Sony Xperia Z5, which are light-years apart in real-world performance.
This underscores the craziness of putting stock in these single numbered scores for phone cameras, particularly when the same variance can exist between two physically identical cameras and two very, very different ones. DxO scores may well serve as a decent benchmark for the raw capabilities of each camera (personally, I think even that is debatable — see the LG G6 vs Moto G4 Plus example above), but they also have the effect of muddying important details around real-world use."
"All that being said, often DxOMark scores do match up with the observations of experienced tech reviewers. The firm correctly called the Google Pixel as the best smartphone camera of 2016. And I think most reviewers would agree that the HTC U11 has, by a slender margin, probably the best phone camera released in 2017 to date.
But that shouldn't compensate for the egregious examples of DxOMark scores not lining up with reality, the most recent of which tells us that LG's flagship phone of 2017 is only as good as a year-old Motorola mid-ranger. As a result, these scores can be pretty much worthless for directly comparing two or more phones.
Bottom line: DxO's reviews are informative and well-researched. But those numbered scores? Forget 'em."

Look, I could care less about DXO scores. Having come from the OP5, and a 6P shortly before that, I can say the G6 takes better photos than both.
The OP5 would look grainy and often blurred in areas, whereas the G6 doesn't BUT seems to be a little more flat in color.
Guess which one I can correct for after the fact...
(Hint: it's not grain or blur...)

I don't listen to DXOMark I hate them but with that being said I kind of agree with the score. The G6 takes fine pictures (albeit too processed, oversharpened and oversaturated at times) but once you start zooming in it looks terrible. Lots of compression artefacts even in daylight and way oversharpened. It's so oversharpened that the bokeh gets sharpened at times and looks like a waterpainting. My V10 had much better image quality.
My problem with this is that the images can't handle post processing very well. They quickly fall apart. My iPhone is miles better in that regard and I also prefer that camera over this one because of that.

I'm starting to think there is differences in the software between different versions. My unit (h870) never had any problems, but I see a lot of people with h870ds complaning about camera quality. The only thing I agree with dxo is that the camera is inconsistent, sometimes I get a shot that outshines any other smartphone camera and sometimes it's just mediocre, I do hope they fix that in the software.

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I'm starting to think there is differences in the software between different versions. My unit (h870) never had any problems, but I see a lot of people with h870ds complaning about camera quality. The only thing I agree with dxo is that the camera is inconsistent, sometimes I get a shot that outshines any other smartphone camera and sometimes it's just mediocre, I do hope they fix that in the software.
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Possible. I have the H870 and prior to that the Korean G600 variant and neither had the issues some have said regarding compression artefacts and such.
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htcnext said:
By comparison, the G4 was rated 83 and the G5 85. Also, the OnePlus 5 was rated 87. Galaxy S7 and S8 were both rated 88. And the Pixel and HTC U11 were rated 89 and 90, respectively. I thought the G6 would be rated 87 or 88.
What sites are recommended for smartphone camera reviews? Is dxomark considered trustworthy?
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They rate the Sony Z5 etc so highly yet its well known that Sony has some of the worst image processing, with the IQ from their phones looking horrid on larger displays, so no I dont trust them at all. Basically the review sites love the G6 camera, but moan a little about the heavy handed NR and processing, but nothing as hectic as some other manufactures. for snaps I find the G6 auto mode perfect, and if I want a nice step up in IQ I use manual mode and process the .dng in Photoshop Express or similar.

nookcoloruser said:
Possible. I have the H870 and prior to that the Korean G600 variant and neither had the issues some have said regarding compression artefacts and such.
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Nice shot.Are some of those touch-up with editing software?

If You want to upgrade your S6E+ with a new phone to get better photos read this

Hello! :angel:
On the 19th of January 2018 marks the official launch of the new Samsung Galaxy A8 2018 edition. From that day forward You can easily buy that new phone and You mustn't go through any pre-order procedures anymore.
During my free time I jumped into a couple of stores to see if there is a worthy candidate to replace our beloved S6E+.
To be clear one thing with You right from the begging - I was only checking if the quality of the camera photos were better or worse in comparison to Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus.
Since there has been also other Samsung Galaxy phones in the stores I’ve visited - I’ve checked them too.
The results may come for You as a bit of a surprise.
Notice that the photo quality measurement was judged by myself only and it was always done indoors with much light in the room (no surprise here since it has been done in shopping centers).
If any of You is considering upgrading S6E+ to a newer model taking into consideration only the photo output of the camera please hold and see what was the verdict. Please read below.
So with no further ado, here are the results:
In all models, the HDR was set to AUTO, flash was always set to disabled.
Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus vs. Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge
Winner = Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus and I might say it won easily. The S7 Edge has the biggest difference in photo quality of all the devices I’ve tested!
Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus vs. Samsung Galaxy A8 (2018 edition)
Winner= Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus. I’ve noticed that A8 tries to get better image quality impression by getting more brightness on the photos which is done automatically. In opposition to S7 Edge there is less difference in photo quality between the two compared models.
Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus vs. Samsung Galaxy S8
Winner = TIE. S8 used automatic brightness adjustment to make photos look better. That was very hard to decide which was the real winner or looser in this one.
Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus vs. Samsung Galaxy S8+
Winner = Samsung Galaxy S8+ - again, automatic photo brightness adjustment makes the pictures taken by that phone better. There’s just a little little bit more sharpness in S8+ images.
Samsung Galaxy S8+ vs. Samsung Galaxy Note8
Winner = Samsung Galaxy Note8 – again, images are brighter but they are more sharper too. This is the first real threat to S6E+ and first very good candidate if you want to upgrade S6E+ only by pursuing a better photo quality. Note8 is on the the top of the mountain when it goes for camera picture quality!
Well, that’s pretty much it.
I hope I helped You with upgrade or no upgrade decisions.
Thank You for the time taken to read my post

Before You upgrade Your S6E+ to a newer Samsung to get better photos
please delete this reply Mr Admin.
My mistake. Sorry.

androidbadboy said:
please delete this reply Mr Admin.
My mistake. Sorry.
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Why do you want to delete? I agree with your opinion and I liked very much this thread. I'd like also add one thing: the number of pixels has a lot of importance when you see the pics in your pc, zoom on or, mainly, when you send them to your smartTV by smartconect. In these cases, S6 edge plus is much better than all of the others with a 16 Mp resolution in 16:9 format against only 12 Mp (4:3 format) and 9 Mp (16:9 format) of the S7, S8, note 8 etc. Remember: to see the true photo quality is not in the small oled screen of the phone (with a lot of artificial tricks and ppi) neither in Facebooks etc! Is in real life like in pc, smartTV or when you print them in paper and here, S6 edge plus photos are long steps ahead and are much better. Here you can see all artificial manipulations of the newer phones, like sharpening... Also that S6 is the only one that has the real and best resolution in 16:9 format perfectly adjusted to Tv's, pc screens etc - in 16 Mp! The maximum resolution in this format performed by S7 and S8, note 8 is only.... 9 Mp!!!! Almost HALF! hehe
For photography and camera in general, I don't swipe FOR SURE

flechinha said:
Why do you want to delete? I agree with your opinion and I liked very much this thread. I'd like also add one thing: the number of pixels has a lot of importance when you see the pics in your pc, zoom on or, mainly, when you send them to your smartTV by smartconect. In these cases, S6 edge plus is much better than all of the others with a 16 Mp resolution in 16:9 format against only 12 Mp (4:3 format) and 9 Mp (16:9 format) of the S7, S8, note 8 etc. Remember: to see the true photo quality is not in the small oled screen of the phone (with a lot of artificial tricks and ppi) neither in Facebooks etc! Is in real life like in pc, smartTV or when you print them in paper and here, S6 edge plus photos are long steps ahead and are much better. Here you can see all artificial manipulations of the newer phones, like sharpening... Also that S6 is the only one that has the real and best resolution in 16:9 format perfectly adjusted to Tv's, pc screens etc - in 16 Mp! The maximum resolution in this format performed by S7 and S8, note 8 is only.... 9 Mp!!!! Almost HALF! hehe
For photography and camera in general, I don't swipe FOR SURE
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1. I don't want to delete the whole topic, just the first reply to it (#2) cause I messed up something while changing the main topic title.
2. Thank You very much for Your input and kind words. I completely agree with your arguments.
3. BTW During my testing I was zooming after the photo was taken to see how the pixels appear. I compared the two devices: one phone in one hand, the other phone in the other hand and I've searched for differences in image quality.

androidbadboy said:
1. I don't want to delete the whole topic, just the first reply to it (#2) cause I messed up something while changing the main topic title.
2. Thank You very much for Your input and kind words. I completely agree with your arguments.
3. BTW During my testing I was zooming after the photo was taken to see how the pixels appear. I compared the two devices: one phone in one hand, the other phone in the other hand and I've searched for differences in image quality.
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Thank you for your words too.
For this comparison you need, AND MUST, have the both files of taken photos in these different phones compared in the same equipment with same screen as also with the same color and image treatment. As you know, the screens of these phones are very different in size, ratio, dpi, bright scale, color treatment (I think S8 and note 8 have hdr screen) etc.. As you said, was not the case, so that comparison isn't accurate. Any case and with no doubts, the zoom range admitted by phones for those pictures with less resolution (12 Mp) is lower in scale compared with zoom range reached with a 16 Mp photo, for not to see the weackness and imperfections. You'd see in maximum zoom range reached by S6 photos how would be the quality of S7, S8 and note photos - miserable!
At the end, take exactly the same scenario at the same time with these phones and, after that, take theses files to your PC with a accurate color screen in preference, zoom in and out and you'll see great differences in quality, highlighted S6 in comparison with all the others.
Also, there is someone here in xda who is a professional photographer that has made this comparison. His opinion is the same - S6 was the last with a true 16:9 and 16 Mp camera much better than following phones. We're talking about natural noise, sharpness and quality. S7 and following are very artificial in treatment, focused to AMOLED screens or low resolution app's like facebook, in that you can't notice the natural quality. Even for DxOMark, before he changed the rules caused by the 2 cameras fashion, S6 edge plus has the second best cell camera in the world, much better than S7 and iphones...
Best regards

flechinha said:
Thank you for your words too.
For this comparison you need, AND MUST, have the both files of taken photos in these different phones compared in the same equipment with same screen as also with the same color and image treatment. As you know, the screens of these phones are very different in size, ratio, dpi, bright scale, color treatment (I think S8 and note 8 have hdr screen) etc.. As you said, was not the case, so that comparison isn't accurate. Any case and with no doubts, the zoom range admitted by phones for those pictures with less resolution (12 Mp) is lower in scale compared with zoom range reached with a 16 Mp photo, for not to see the weackness and imperfections. You'd see in maximum zoom range reached by S6 photos how would be the quality of S7, S8 and note photos - miserable!
At the end, take exactly the same scenario at the same time with these phones and, after that, take theses files to your PC with a accurate color screen in preference, zoom in and out and you'll see great differences in quality, highlighted S6 in comparison with all the others.
Also, there is someone here in xda who is a professional photographer that has made this comparison. His opinion is the same - S6 was the last with a true 16:9 and 16 Mp camera much better than following phones. We're talking about natural noise, sharpness and quality. S7 and following are very artificial in treatment, focused to AMOLED screens or low resolution app's like facebook, in that you can't notice the natural quality. Even for DxOMark, before he changed the rules caused by the 2 cameras fashion, S6 edge plus has the second best cell camera in the world, much better than S7 and iphones...
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Thank You for tones of great information.
I know that a precise test would have to be perform like that. I did it this way cause I didn't have access to the files of the phones in the stores for obvious reasons. The second thing is that people tend to judge the photo quality right out of the box shall we say. For example, 2 friends are taking pictures with their different phones and then compare the same object photographed by these phones by putting their devices near each other and judging by just looking at the phone's screen. That's what most people do when evaluating cameras and that's why I sort of did the same. I hope I saved our readers some time or gave them a bit information of what to expect out of the phones that I have compared.
With your information added I think we showed that our beloved Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus is still the king of the mountain.
PS. Which device dares to claim to be number one?

androidbadboy said:
Thank You for tones of great information.
I know that a precise test would have to be perform like that. I did it this way cause I didn't have access to the files of the phones in the stores for obvious reasons. The second thing is that people tend to judge the photo quality right out of the box shall we say. For example, 2 friends are taking pictures with their different phones and then compare the same object photographed by these phones by putting their devices near each other and judging by just looking at the phone's screen. That's what most people do when evaluating cameras and that's why I sort of did the same. I hope I saved our readers some time or gave them a bit information of what to expect out of the phones that I have compared.
With your information added I think we showed that our beloved Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus is still the king of the mountain.
PS. Which device dares to claim to be number one?
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Yeah you're right, people want to see and believe what they're are seeing in the moment, no matter the tricks or screens or etc. but for me, the most important is the real file of the photo that I can see, preserve and remind in the future in any equipment. Also when you need zoom a photo in a bigger TV screen, on where all the imperfections come out, a nice photo on the cellularphone can become tremendous here... Keep in mind this, for everybody the best cellphone photos of all the time were taken by nokia brand cellphones, mainly in the old N8 and lumias pureview. Unfortunately the Symbian OS and Windows phone OS didn't let this cellphones shine like they deserve... This is inquestionable but, in the moment in those TFT hd only screens, those weren't the best picture that someone could see...
About your question, sincerely I don't remember which one was considered the best one by DxOMark before new rules, I'm not sure if it was the pixel, but if you want to know, perhaps visiting his site and try to understand it. Unfortunately, also, DxOMark only started focusing in cellphones photography about a pair of years and never had the opportunity to test nokia models cause they are older
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flechinha said:
Yeah you're right, people want to see and believe what they're are seeing in the moment, no matter the tricks or screens or etc. but for me, the most important is the real file of the photo that I can see, preserve and remind in the future in any equipment. Also when you need zoom a photo in a bigger TV screen, on where all the imperfections come out, a nice photo on the cellularphone can become tremendous here... Keep in mind this, for everybody the best cellphone photos of all the time were taken by nokia brand cellphones, mainly in the old N8 and lumias pureview. Unfortunately the Symbian OS and Windows phone OS didn't let this cellphones shine like they deserve... This is inquestionable but, in the moment in those TFT hd only screens, those weren't the best picture that someone could see...
About your question, sincerely I don't remember which one was considered the best one by DxOMark before new rules, I'm not sure if it was the pixel, but if you want to know, perhaps visiting his site and try to understand it. Unfortunately, also, DxOMark only started focusing in cellphones photography about a pair of years and never had the opportunity to test nokia models cause they are older
Regards
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Thanks again,
do you know his website, a contact or something?

androidbadboy said:
Thanks again,
do you know his website, a contact or something?
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Just Google it.