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Xperia Z2 vs. LG G3

With the LG G3 just around the corner, the decision for which handset to choose has been made so much tougher. I'm wondering where current or prospective Z2 owners stand. Personally i've been waiting for the Z2 in my country for quite some time now but after seeing the video and press renders of the potential LG G3, I have to say my mind has been swayed in LG's direction. Thoughts?

I just love my z2 and won't be going for g3 in any case
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I'm not much moved by the g3 by any means, though it is a gorgeous device... Im still getting the z2 in 2 weeks

I think lg gonna suffer in what matters the most to me, that is battery life. I mean, its fricking huge 5.5inch with 2k resolution and less battery capacity than g2. And not like you will notice more ppi cause we already have more than enough. We will see, but numbers doesnt sound to well
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ladelfm said:
With the LG G3 just around the corner, the decision for which handset to choose has been made so much tougher. I'm wondering where current or prospective Z2 owners stand. Personally i've been waiting for the Z2 in my country for quite some time now but after seeing the video and press renders of the potential LG G3, I have to say my mind has been swayed in LG's direction. Thoughts?
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I too am on the same boat with you, though it has been released some weeks ago here in Sweden, I haven't yet decided (the only concern is 16 Gb storage in Z2, am currently having htc OneX, 32 Gb, so it would be a great upgrade from many aspect, except the storage as it will turn out to a downgrade. I know there's external sd, but moving app data to that ext-sd is no longer supported in Android afaik) better to wait for G3 I think. If it also fails then Note4 can be the next alternative
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I hate screen size more than 5.3
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I think that:
Sony Xperia Z2 > LG G3
Areas where Sony wins:
+Build (aluminium vs plastic on G3)
+IP Rating (most likely G3 will not be water resistant)
+Front-facing speakers
+Screen size (5.2 inch seems plenty, 5.5 is a phablet)
+Sony's skin (LG has one of the uggliest ones on the market)
+20.7MP camera (as shown in many reviews it is one of the best if not the best in the world)
Areas where LG G3 wins:
+ Snapdragon 805 (vs 801 on Sony, Has anyone even got close to using up the potential of 801 yet? [maybe 4k recording])
but of course we want know for sure until the device is officially unveiled.

shem2409 said:
I think that:
Sony Xperia Z2 > LG G3
Areas where Sony wins:
+Build (aluminium vs plastic on G3)
+IP Rating (most likely G3 will not be water resistant)
+Front-facing speakers
+Screen size (5.2 inch seems plenty, 5.5 is a phablet)
+Sony's skin (LG has one of the uggliest ones on the market)
+20.7MP camera (as shown in many reviews it is one of the best if not the best in the world)
Areas where LG G3 wins:
+ Snapdragon 805 (vs 801 on Sony, Has anyone even got close to using up the potential of 801 yet? [maybe 4k recording])
but of course we want know for sure until the device is officially unveiled.
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I mostly agree but LG might have something up its sleeve I feel.Let's hope they come out with a great phone.Good competition is great for us consumers.
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paras said:
I mostly agree but LG might have something up its sleeve I feel.Let's hope they come out with a great phone.Good competition is great for us consumers.
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Let's see what the laser pointer on the back is for
But I do agree that every manufacturer should be bringing an exclusive feature to their phone as that motivates others to improve. I have tested the Galaxy S5 and the Z2 and currently am in the process of testing the HTC One M8 and for me Xperia Z2 is king. Each phone has features that I like though.

shem2409 said:
Let's see what the laser pointer on the back is for
But I do agree that every manufacturer should be bringing an exclusive feature to their phone as that motivates others to improve. I have tested the Galaxy S5 and the Z2 and currently am in the process of testing the HTC One M8 and for me Xperia Z2 is king. Each phone has features that I like though.
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I hate Samsung and S5.Sold htc one m7 and loved it buy m8 doesn't have anything New so didn't go that way.Sony Xperia z2 has everything and it's a beast to say the least.
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The only downside of the z2 is it's size, it looks like the 5.5 inch G3 is the same size as the 5.3 inch Z2.

I agree, I would say that a lot of the decision would probably come down to one handed usability personally. If the dimensions of the handsets are the same, I would be swayed more to the one that has the better feel in hand. A better processor to future proof things is obviously an added benefit and OIS is something nice to have. These screen's are just pushing my boundaries though. I remember 2 years ago i said i would never go over 4.7" and then last year i'll never go over 5" with my Galaxy S4, and here we are pushing 5.2 and now possibly 5.5? I don't think a phablet is what I want and could be the deciding factor. Side note: a lot of new reviews from today and yesterday are really praising the Z2. Decisions decisions.

coolmingli said:
The only downside of the z2 is it's size, it looks like the 5.5 inch G3 is the same size as the 5.3 inch Z2.
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HTC m8 is the same size as z2 but has only a 5 inch display..
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Jiyeon90 said:
HTC m8 is the same size as z2 but has only a 5 inch display..
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Sony is actually taller and wider:
Sony Xperia Z2: 146.8 x 73.3 x 8.2 mm
HTC One M8: 146.4 x 70.6 x 9.4 mm
Because the HTC is more oval it also feels less thick than it actually is and it is a lot more comfortable in one hand. I have tested both and can say that when it comes to just the design the HTC is superior. Sony wins in most other aspects though
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coolmingli said:
The only downside of the z2 is it's size, it looks like the 5.5 inch G3 is the same size as the 5.3 inch Z2.
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Tbh I would rather have a slightly smaller screen and front-facing speakers

For me, 5.2 is really as big as you want in a phone. Anything bigger is heading into Phablet territory so they are 2 very different phones. You can always wait and newer better phones will always come along.
Ive always had Samsung for a while but the Z2 was good enough on paper to jump ship and its a great phone, no regrets. As others have said, great build quality and specs which we all know. If you want to continue waiting regarding the LG, may as well wait a little longer for the rumoured Note 4 which will be even better and they are more comparable given its screen size.

In an hour and a half we shall see what my next phone will be. All the leaks seem promising, this will be a tough choice. I think if the overall dimensions are the same and it has metal construction, it would be a no brainer to go for the LG.

Dimensions are already available, its just a little bigger than z2. Dont fancy even wider phone

Assuming the leaks are true, here's my pre-annoucement breakdown:
G3:
+ larger screen, similar sized body
+ QHD screen, although personally this is arguable the Z2 screen is pretty amazing.
+ OIS camera
+ possibly quicker focusing
Z2:
+ 3GB RAM
+ more traditional button placement
+ waterproof IP58
+ 20MP 1/2.3" sensor w/ f/2.0 lens
Unknowns:
- Battery life, Z2 has excellent battery life
- G3 build/materials (matters for some)
- Removable battery
- QHD resolution impact on performance
Who knows, LG may have some more surprises but that's just how I see things. On the screen side of things, I'll be interesting if it's a pentile screen, and honestly I've always loved high res displays but I'm wondering if QHD would look any different than FHD on a 5" screen. Also there are more to displays than just resolution, color reproduction, white balance, brightness etc etc should also be considered.
Even assuming the G3 is waterproof with a QHD display, metal build and a removable battery, I'd still prefer a Z2 for it's excellent, large size camera sensor, exceptional battery life, larger RAM, and sexy looks.

G3 is made of metal
Apparently has a removable battery and
is the same size as the Z2
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With the knock on thing, the power buttons placement is not going to be an issue either.
It looks great. The even starts in 20 minutes.. I'll be watching it.

se1000 said:
and honestly I've always loved high res displays but I'm wondering if QHD would look any different than FHD on a 5" screen.
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Unless having bionic eyes, QHD is totally useless on screen smaller than 6". So, this is just a marketing argument.

OppoFind 7a vs Z2 Camera!!! Phone features compare

hi, have just got the oppo find 7a in hands & went for a shootout today!! Seems each phones has their Pros & Cons..
The Modes & camera is stated on the name of the photos.. [email protected]@@@
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The Z2 shots seem to have better dynamic range, a tad sharper, and a wider FOV than the Oppo. HDR is more exaggerated on the Oppo, which, I think the Sony could do better at. Z2 camera package is clearly better IMO.

yeap.. i find out that the Z2 is easier to handle in the night where as the oppo in the day (Due to the super fast AF). Oppo is a disaster without activating the slowshutter mode during the night, turns out blur without any support or tripod, pretty usless i think then..
BUT,
Oppo - $599SGD
Xperia Z2 - $988SGD

finoqq84 said:
yeap.. i find out that the Z2 is easier to handle in the night where as the oppo in the day (Due to the super fast AF). Oppo is a disaster without activating the slowshutter mode during the night, turns out blur without any support or tripod, pretty usless i think then..
BUT,
Oppo - $599SGD
Xperia Z2 - $988SGD
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Any other observations on the Oppo besides cam? I think it's great that we have all of the choices for different devices!

se1000 said:
Any other observations on the Oppo besides cam? I think it's great that we have all of the choices for different devices!
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Oppo feels better & slimmer on the hand, Z2 weighs more and feel more solid
Camera Auto Focus on the Oppo is Super fast, even faster than S5. But tends to blur sometimes due the capturing straight after tapping the screen, LED flash is super bright.
The Oppo's front 5mp snapper is the best i have ever seen, Low noise, & support SCNES MODE!! (So you can take a selfie even if ur back is a sunset) Better then the S5. Z2's front snapper is...... LOL.... don't mention..
Oppo Screen is larger, sharper & very WHITE.. Z2 has a warm display, but has more dynamic range colors then the Oppo. The Z2 display just looks more appealing!
The Oppo Home & UI is NOT appealing to me, despite TONS of themes. I still prefer the Z2 Home & UI (The best i have ever seen so far).
Gestures on the Oppo is a PLUS point and the double tap wake function is very good, 98% success. The Z2 is...LOL.. been tapping the screen to wake the Japan giant up... Sleeping ...60% Success only..
The Opp sounds fuller to me but the Z2 has the stereo speakers
The Fast Charge is True, battery went from 12% to 75% in just 25mins . But only with its HUGE BLOCK charger.
The oppo does not support 5Ghz wireless signals from my router, the Z2 does.
The Oppo stock Chinese keyboard only support traditional Chinese input
So my conclusion is...

Wow great balanced assessment! Good luck on your choice!

finoqq84 said:
Oppo feels better & slimmer on the hand, Z2 weighs more and feel more solid
Camera Auto Focus on the Oppo is Super fast, even faster than S5. But tends to blur sometimes due the capturing straight after tapping the screen, LED flash is super bright.
The Oppo's front 5mp snapper is the best i have ever seen, Low noise, & support SCNES MODE!! (So you can take a selfie even if ur back is a sunset) Better then the S5. Z2's front snapper is...... LOL.... don't mention..
Oppo Screen is larger, sharper & very WHITE.. Z2 has a warm display, but has more dynamic range colors then the Oppo. The Z2 display just looks more appealing!
The Oppo Home & UI is NOT appealing to me, despite TONS of themes. I still prefer the Z2 Home & UI (The best i have ever seen so far).
Gestures on the Oppo is a PLUS point and the double tap wake function is very good, 98% success. The Z2 is...LOL.. been tapping the screen to wake the Japan giant up... Sleeping ...60% Success only..
The Opp sounds fuller to me but the Z2 has the stereo speakers
The Fast Charge is True, battery went from 12% to 75% in just 25mins . But only with its HUGE BLOCK charger.
The oppo does not support 5Ghz wireless signals from my router, the Z2 does.
The Oppo stock Chinese keyboard only support traditional Chinese input
So my conclusion is...
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Warmer whites are more accurate The Oppo is most likely cool and blueish which is what we usually think is white but isn't what is actually accurate

not i am biased.. I still prefer my Z2.....LOL..:laugh:

Is it true that the oppo loses ~13% battery overnight?
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Jiyeon90 said:
Is it true that the oppo loses ~13% battery overnight?
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nope, in fact it only loses 3% the max overnight. About the same as Z2 in stamina Mode. But oppo drains faster then the Z2 during heavy usage. In terms of battery life, Z2 still better then the oppo

7a's pics look blurry, I like it's camera a lot more anyways, z2's pictures look washed out, just not as good.

The picture of the Ship is clearly in Oppo's favor, Its a much better picture. A very good picture. All of the others i would give to sony.

jug6ernaut said:
The picture of the Ship is clearly in Oppo's favor, Its a much better picture. A very good picture. All of the others i would give to sony.
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Yep, oppo's HDR mode is very good..
And for oppo's price tag, I feel more worth it then the Z2... The Z2's camera could be better, I heard its because of the separation department of the hardware & software, they did not work together

Quick question about the Oppo. Do you happen to know if it supports MHL or Slimport? I sent Oppo and email, and they never got back to me.

OPPO 7a standby time is a better now after their latest update, but still needs a lot of work. Also losts of complaints of yellow tint across bottom of screen. Two reasons I returned the phone.
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alyunes said:
OPPO 7a standby time is a better now after their latest update, but still needs a lot of work. Also losts of complaints of yellow tint across bottom of screen. Two reasons I returned the phone.
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The Z2 is still the winner in standby time, even without switching on stamina mode

Why Samsung Galaxy note 4?

Why wil you choose Galaxy note 4? comapare to other phablet . and its competitor iphone 6?
harkz.com/why-note-4

For me the reason is simple, it has more features and productive. My brother has the iphone 6+ and it felt
like using the my old iphone 5 except the 6+ is bigger.

for me really i dont know i just wanted to buy lg g flex 2 but i found it lag like hell
i tried to fet htc phaplet but did not find one with big scree
i bought note 4 with snapdragin 805
but really dont like heat so much and else lag sometimes
but i love the pen and the fantastic screen

[Q] Why Samsung Galaxy note 4?
harkzph said:
Why wil you choose Galaxy note 4? comapare to other phablet . and its competitor iphone 6?
harkz.com/why-note-4
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The iPhone 6 is not a phablet
I have both the Note 4 & iPhone 6+
I use both about the same and change which is my daily driver every few days.
Hardware wise they are very different, but really that hasn't made much difference to me in my day to day use of either device as I tend to use the exact same apps on both devices.
Screenwise :- I honestly can't say I can see a difference between the 1080p screen v the 2k screen. Both just look like great screens - though the iPhones does get brighter and is easier to see in outside daylight. The Note 4's gets dimmer and more comfortable at nighttime.
Speakers :- the iPhone 6+ speaker is clearer than the Note 4's which can sound a little tinny and distorted at full volume.
Camera :- main cameras outside of megapixel differences are able to capture very similar results with neither being much better than the other. 1080p recording on iPhone 6+ does benefit with much better OIS over the Note 4 - however Note 4's 4k recording is some of the best 4k quality I've seen on a smartphone and clearly iPhone can't do that.
Removable storage and battery are nice to have but aren't deal breakers for me.
Note 4 main benefits are mainly the S-Pen features for me. I can doodle / etch a picture on the fly. I can scribble down notes quickly.
The customisability is too its strength.
IPhone 6+ strength is its software consistency and fluidity.
People will tell you that Note 4 is better at multitasking and iPhone 6+ is terrible because of less ram and yet on current lollipop builds I find it's the iPhone 6+ that handles multitasking better despite 3x less ram.
On KitKat they are similar in my daily experience but with a nudge to the Note 4.
Here's my Lollipop experience. Notice the Note 4 has to refresh app content in many applications and the iPhone 6+ doesn't despite less ram. Most of these were Google apps that I use every day.
Battery wise they are similar too but with nudge this time going to iPhone 6+
IPhone 6 version is poor battery wise compared to either.
Overall I think both a great handsets and a person will be served greatly by either (or both as I am).....
Buy in confidence whichever you choose.

becouse specs

Note 4 for Faster charging,cheap,very good screen,customisation but iphone 6 plus is faster in terms of app opening & better front camera,fingerprint scanning,its iphone name.
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RISHI RAJ said:
Note 4 for Faster charging,cheap,very good screen,customisation but iphone 6 plus is faster in terms of app opening & better front camera,fingerprint scanning,its iphone name.
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Better camera on the iPhone, you really think so?

GTCC said:
Better camera on the iPhone, you really think so?
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yeah i can say iphone 6+'s front camera is better than note 4. i find it brighter and clearer compared to our phone but the main camera is way better than the iphone

GTCC said:
Better camera on the iPhone, you really think so?
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Yes,definitely Im talking about the front camera.Although I do find primary cameras of both equal
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wEaKlY27 said:
yeah i can say iphone 6+'s front camera is better than note 4. i find it brighter and clearer compared to our phone but the main camera is way better than the iphone
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Yes,definitely Im talking about the front camera.Although I do find primary cameras of both equal
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Sorry my mistake, I thought you were talking about rear camera, I'm dyslexic.

I think it depends on what and how you use your smart phone...
I have moved thru many phones. And always went back to the note series.
My reasons:
Big screen - really struggle with anything smaller than 5.5 inch
S-pen - love the note taking and has been massively improved for handwriting recognition in the note 4 compared to previous notes
Camera - i have used and compared with S5, iPhone 6 and 6+, LG g3, lumia 930 and HTC m8 and I gotta say I BELIEVE it's the best overall.
SD slot and usb on the go - i have 2 64gb cards and 3 32gb SanDisk usb/micro on the go sticks and they are used for work, movies and docs.
Removable battery - i am a very heavy user - monthly usage - 100gb mobile data, 1000 emails, 3000 txt/whatsapp, 40hrs calls average, I use thru out the day 2 full batteries lasting a combined of 17hrs approx (in retrospect iPhone 6+ lasts me 6/7hrs)
Thats me... Everyone is very different but for me Note series wins everytime
For reference these are phones I've used in last 24months in no order:
Note 3, Note 4, galaxy s4, galaxy s5, LG g3, HTC m8, HTC m7, lumia 930, iPhone 5s, iPhone 6, iPhone 6+, xperia ultra

wEaKlY27 said:
yeah i can say iphone 6+'s front camera is better than note 4. i find it brighter and clearer compared to our phone but the main camera is way better than the iphone
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I'm 110% sure that the front camera on the iPhone 6 Plus isn't even comparable with the front camera on the Note 4.
Not only is the front camera on the Note 4 much better in camera quality over the iPhone 6 Plus, but the front camera on the Note 4 even record videos in higher resolution than the main camera on the iPhone 6 Plus does. That alone tells us how much iPhone 6 / 6 Plus is behind the competition.
The front camera on the Note 4 can record videos in 1440p with pretty good quality. Here you have one video that is recorded with the front camera on the Note 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZakP0hjWT3g
And don't get me started on how bad the main camera on the iPhone 6 Plus is compared to the Note 4's main camera. Yes, the iPhone 6 Plus camera is still good, but the Note 4's main camera is in it's own league there and it's much much better when it comes to provinding details in the pictures.

Tom-Helge said:
And don't get me started on how bad the main camera on the iPhone 6 Plus is compared to the Note 4's main camera. Yes, the iPhone 6 Plus camera is still good, but the Note 4's main camera is in it's own league there and it's much much better when it comes to provinding details in the pictures.
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Really? I was testing today alongside my moto x 2014 and quality with all of them was much the same. Certainly do not think owning the devices that there is a big difference.
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Really? I was testing today alongside my moto x 2014 and quality with all of them was much the same. Certainly do not think owning the devices that there is a big difference.
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If you just looks at the pictures as you see them, then you might not see much differences. But once you start to see the pictures in full size, you will right away see that the camera on the iPhone 6 Plus can't keep up with the Note 4.
Here is a picture taken with the iPhone 6 Plus.
Now, here is the same picture taken with the Note 4.
Now take a look at the signs on the roof in those 2 pictures. Do you see the text there on the picture the iPhone 6 Plus have taken?
On the picture the Note 4 have taken, you can easily see the text there. On the iPhone 6 Plus picture, it's almost impossible to see the text there.
Here is a 100% crop of the iPhone 6 Plus picture.
Here is the 100% crop picture to the Note 4.
Again, the iPhone 6 Plus can't even be comparable to the Note 4 as the iPhone 6 Plus camera lacks the details in the pictures.
EDIT: Just to make my point evne stronger: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Gala...ts-a-Canon-DSLR-and-the-iPhone-6-Plus_id66093
The iPhone 6 Plus got crushed by the Note 4 in that blind camera test.

harkzph said:
Why wil you choose Galaxy note 4? comapare to other phablet . and its competitor iphone 6?
harkz.com/why-note-4
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Irritating question designed to bring all kinds of trollish responses. Since you have gone ahead and asked anyway. I chose both. I like both platforms and both these phones bring something unique in their own way. I prefer the note 4 for its camera for daylight and the iPhone 6 for lowlight and its consistency.
You cannot go wrong with either.

jayesh said:
Irritating question designed to bring all kinds of trollish responses. Since you have gone ahead and asked anyway. I chose both. I like both platforms and both these phones bring something unique in their own way. I prefer the note 4 for its camera for daylight and the iPhone 6 for lowlight and its consistency.
You cannot go wrong with either.
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You are spot on, I have both and they are both fantastic in their own way. However if a person wanted the best camera then the Note 4 is the one to go for.
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Really? I was testing today alongside my moto x 2014 and quality with all of them was much the same. Certainly do not think owning the devices that there is a big difference.
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Was that the Three Sisters by any chance? I heading back home in a few weeks and I'm bringing a few Brits(friends) with me to show them the crack and gods own country in the Kingdom, can't wait.

GTCC said:
Was that the Three Sisters by any chance? I heading back home in a few weeks and I'm bringing a few Brits(friends) with me to show them the crack and gods own country in the Kingdom, can't wait.
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No more northerly on Kerry coast that than the three sisters which are Ballydavid (Dingle Peninsula) direction. This would be closer to Kerry Head

Well, I like Apple ecosystem but Note 4 Super AMOLED screen is a deal breaker for me. I read a lot of manga (black and white japanese comics) on a phone and I say black looks more vivid on a Super AMOLED screen. I study japanese too so the ability to draw chinese letters (kanji) with a Spen is also great. I also have the liberty to just run Nintendo DS japanese kanji learning and drawing games with a stylus... Without having to carry the extra Nintendo DS weight... Thats impossible on a iPhone 6 Plus.

I really love the floating windows option.
Other than that, huge screen, spen, sflip cover, removable battery and expendable memory.
Kind regards, Stefan.

Different camera sensors? Isocell vs imx240?

So some users(me included) reports that their s6 have a isocell sensor instead sony imx240.
With note 4 has the same drama, and some people defend is just a string error.
Is really the same sensor with different string?
Is the sensor the same, just made by other manufacturer?
Because honestly mine s6 reports an isocell sensor, and i feel, dunno if is only different to my eyes, the photos from a imx240 look better.
ISOCELL
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Sony
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Mine showing isocell like the first photo. Actual results are great so I'm satisfied.

Here the same...no SonyChip [emoji15]
But the photo results are very impressive compared to my old ONE M8.
I used this Code to test it: *#34971539#

Bananaz said:
So some users(me included) reports that their s6 have a isocell sensor instead sony imx240.
With note 4 has the same drama, and some people defend is just a string error.
Is really the same sensor with different string?
Is the sensor the same, just made by other manufacturer?
Because honestly mine s6 reports an isocell sensor, and i feel, dunno if is only different to my eyes, the photos from a imx240 look better.
ISOCELL
Sony
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i have the sony imx240 sensor...here is my photo.do you have the same level of detail?

One pic from my phone.
Your picture feels better overall.
Or its only in my eyes.

Bananaz said:
So some users(me included) reports that their s6 have a isocell sensor instead sony imx240.
With note 4 has the same drama, and some people defend is just a string error.
Is really the same sensor with different string?
Is the sensor the same, just made by other manufacturer?
Because honestly mine s6 reports an isocell sensor, and i feel, dunno if is only different to my eyes, the photos from a imx240 look better.
Thanks
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Supposedly, it's just how the kernel is reporting the ISP, not the sensor itself.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55749031&postcount=44

According to this I have an isocell sensor. Differences?

se1000 said:
Supposedly, it's just how the kernel is reporting the ISP, not the sensor itself.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55749031&postcount=44
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But why does other phones reports Sony sensor? Are these FW not using the same kernel?
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Or maybe is just other manufacturer for the same sensor.
I dont know, but is weird.

se1000 said:
Supposedly, it's just how the kernel is reporting the ISP, not the sensor itself.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55749031&postcount=44
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But what if the kernel answer is right....
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Bananaz said:
One pic from my phone.
Your picture feels better overall.
Or its only in my eyes.
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It looks like IMX240 real beats ISOCell even at outdoor now.

DrearierJester1 said:
But why does other phones reports Sony sensor? Are these FW not using the same kernel?
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I think it's the ISP (Image Signal Processor) that's different, some are made by sony and some are made by samsung. The sensors themselves may all be IMX240. I'm just guessing here.
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/03/02...s6-and-s6-edge-have-the-imx240-camera-sensor/

Bananaz said:
One pic from my phone.
Your picture feels better overall.
Or its only in my eyes.
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I disagree. Yours has amazing detail in the sky/clouds, he has a more interesting photo and composition. I think it's the difference in content that is creating a perceived difference. The only way it will be determined is to take the same picture at the same place and same time with the two sensors. :/

se1000 said:
I think it's the ISP (Image Signal Processor) that's different, some are made by sony and some are made by samsung. The sensors themselves may all be IMX240. I'm just guessing here.
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/03/02...s6-and-s6-edge-have-the-imx240-camera-sensor/
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ISP should be the same this time because we are all on Exynos ISP.

Hi,
I wonder why Samsung use a Sony sensor at Galaxy Note 4 and Galaxy S6. Last year Isocell was a big thing for the Galaxy S5 because of good quality and the ability for a fast focus.
And the pictures was really great for a smartphone, in my opinion the best Android Camera in 2014.
Now Samsung using a Sony Sensor and I want to know: why?
My Galaxy S6 has the IMX Sensor from Sony and pictures are very good and a little better like the Galaxy S5 pictures. But I expected a new version of isocell Sensor.
Why does Samsung drop it?

Svendrae said:
Now Samsung using a Sony Sensor and I want to know: why?
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I'm certain it's one of only two things: either the Sony is better, or it's cheaper. (Or both.)
Would it be beneficial at all for for us to give our region, carrier, and sensor? Does getting more info like that help figure out the difference? (If it's not just a string read error.)
I'm:
CA, USA
Sprint
Sony

Europe,
Poland,
PLUS.
ISOCell .

TheEndHK said:
ISP should be the same this time because we are all on Exynos ISP.
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Not necessarily.
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+S6+Teardown/39174 - check out step 10. "Samsung C2N8AF"
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+S6+Edge+Teardown/39158 - step 11 "Samsung C2N89U"
These could just be inter changeable but just sourced from different manufacturers.
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Svendrae said:
Hi,
I wonder why Samsung use a Sony sensor at Galaxy Note 4 and Galaxy S6. Last year Isocell was a big thing for the Galaxy S5 because of good quality and the ability for a fast focus.
And the pictures was really great for a smartphone, in my opinion the best Android Camera in 2014.
Now Samsung using a Sony Sensor and I want to know: why?
My Galaxy S6 has the IMX Sensor from Sony and pictures are very good and a little better like the Galaxy S5 pictures. But I expected a new version of isocell Sensor.
Why does Samsung drop it?
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Sony imaging sensors are highly regarded as some of the best sensors in the industry, not only for smartphones but also for DSLR's, etc. Sony makes most of the sensors that are in high end Nikon DSLR's.

Svendrae said:
Hi,
I wonder why Samsung use a Sony sensor at Galaxy Note 4 and Galaxy S6. Last year Isocell was a big thing for the Galaxy S5 because of good quality and the ability for a fast focus.
And the pictures was really great for a smartphone, in my opinion the best Android Camera in 2014.
Now Samsung using a Sony Sensor and I want to know: why?
My Galaxy S6 has the IMX Sensor from Sony and pictures are very good and a little better like the Galaxy S5 pictures. But I expected a new version of isocell Sensor.
Why does Samsung drop it?
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The ISOCell quality at low light isn't good enough and Sony is still better but ISOCell was managed to outperform Sony at outdoor when compared to like IMX135. This time IMX240 is doing good both outdoor and indoor.
The sales of Samsung is dropping too and hard to maintain a production line but if S6/S6E and Note5 sales real good then ISOCell 2nd gen is possible to happen in the future.
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se1000 said:
Not necessarily.
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+S6+Teardown/39174 - check out step 10. "Samsung C2N8AF"
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+S6+Edge+Teardown/39158 - step 11 "Samsung C2N89U"
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They are still Exynos ISP because they used different size to fit on the PCB and Samsung gave them with two model number. If you copy and paste out of two chips in photoshop and you will see the one on S6 is slightly larger than S6E.

TheEndHK said:
The ISOCell quality at low light isn't good enough and Sony is still better but ISOCell was managed to outperform Sony at outdoor when compared to like IMX135. This time IMX240 is doing good both outdoor and indoor.
The sales of Samsung is dropping too and hard to maintain a production line but if S6/S6E and Note5 sales real good then ISOCell 2nd gen is possible to happen in the future.
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They are still Exynos ISP because they used different size to fit on the PCB and Samsung gave them with two model number. If you copy and paste out of two chips in photoshop and you will see the one on S6 is slightly larger than S6E.
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Right but the point is, the ISP is separate from the sensor itself.

Got Sony sensor S6 from Italian market made in China

dxomark just rated the LG G6 camera an 84, agree or disagree?

By comparison, the G4 was rated 83 and the G5 85. Also, the OnePlus 5 was rated 87. Galaxy S7 and S8 were both rated 88. And the Pixel and HTC U11 were rated 89 and 90, respectively. I thought the G6 would be rated 87 or 88.
What sites are recommended for smartphone camera reviews? Is dxomark considered trustworthy?

No, not really, they have been proven to be unreliable when it comes to phone reviews. They gave 1+5 stabilization 87 (it has no ois and 4k is shaky as an earthquake), and they gave g6 - 84. That should tell you enough.

DxO should not be held as bastions of smartphone camera quality. They have given a number of devices high scores which clearly were undeserved or not representative of actual real usage. Xperia Z5 for example or even last year's HTC 10 which whilst every reviewer acknowledged camera software was buggy to say the least at launch, leading to very blurry images, DxO testing ignored that and awarded it what was then its highest score.
With OEM's now openly tuning their software to score better DxO marks and many paying DxO for the privilege, the validity of their artificial testing methodology and what it actually means for end users is an ever growing disparity.
I have both the Pixel, S8, iPhone 7+ and G6. Whilst I acknowledge the G6's main sensor or moreover the post processing of its software isn't as good, the extra versatility it's extra wide angle lens affords in real world usage makes it special. Offering photo opportunities I simply do not get in my other devices.
If your happy with the end results, DxO means sweet nothing, and is just as much about posturing as those who obsess over other artificial metrics and benchmarks that have little in common with real world usage.
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I still like the gsmarena charts (normal light and low-light)
But, since the manual mode became a thing (finally). I would honestly want to see multiple ISOs and RAW. I use RAW quite a lot (especially since snapseed works with it on the phone so I don't have to wait for a PC) and I remember clearly switching from LG G4 to S6 and S7 that the photos were underwhelming compared to G4. Especially low light long exposure ones.
I don't care that much for "who has the best jpeg out of the box" thing. If I have an important photo I will go through it in photoshop and apply different levels of noise reduction where necessary. If it's not that important I'll just finish it up in Snapseed and/or just straight up send the jpeg.
Also, I'm not that satisfied with the G5 camera. It's not a bad camera, far from it. But I wish that it would have been bigger (and more pixels like 16MP or more) and/or same megapixel count (since dual cameras so you basically have an optical zoom on it between wide and "normal") and larger sensor.
I am really interested in what the Red phone/camera will bring to the table and Nokia (coming back) also. I really wish for something like a nokia pureview 808 sensor size camera setup (or dual camera).

Mad_Duke said:
Also, I'm not that satisfied with the G5 camera. It's not a bad camera, far from it. But I wish that it would have been bigger (and more pixels like 16MP or more) and/or same megapixel count (since dual cameras so you basically have an optical zoom on it between wide and "normal") and larger sensor.
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You mean G6 r8?
Why they didn't get the idea 1st like the samsung new isocell sensor that can be configured in three different ways – Zoom, Depth sensing and Low Light shooting!

Yep. My bad when talking in a same post about G4 G6 S6 and S7 hahaha

nookcoloruser said:
I have both the Pixel, S8, iPhone 7+ and G6. Whilst I acknowledge the G6's main sensor or moreover the post processing of its software isn't as good, the extra versatility it's extra wide angle lens affords in real world usage makes it special. Offering photo opportunities I simply do not get in my other devices.
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I am disagree with your statement.They use the crap cheap mediocre sensor (IMX258) which Xiaomi & other oem use on there midrange phone.But Lg highly optimize there camera algorithm.You can check the photo compare on gsmarena or phonearen with this same sensor.

sagor1 said:
I am disagree with your statement.They use the crap cheap mediocre sensor (IMX258) which Xiaomi & other oem use on there midrange phone.But Lg highly optimize there camera algorithm.You can check the photo compare on gsmarena or phonearen with this same sensor.
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LG may have better post processing than Xiaomi but compared to Google and even Apple - its post processing is not as good. HDR is too aggressive and LG has a tendency to over sharpen.
Comparison is made to the top smartphone cameras - devices it clearly is in competition with - not some mid range ****e that no one really gives a feck about anyway.
The G6 camera is very good but it's strengths come more from the versatility the two cameras offer rather than it's software post processing.

nookcoloruser said:
LG may have better post processing than Xiaomi but compared to Google and even Apple - its post processing is not as good. HDR is too aggressive and LG has a tendency to over sharpen.
Comparison is made to the top smartphone cameras - devices it clearly is in competition with - not some mid range ****e that no one really gives a feck about anyway.
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I never said it's good as apple or pixel,because they use better sensor.I just appreciated their post processing method with this sensor.
Btw in Androidauthority blind test the g6 is winner.
I don't like the iPhone camera.

http://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-5-camera-shootout-780369/
Interesting that in this poll with 67,000 votes the LG G6 came out on top over the S8, OnePlus 5, HTC U11, and Pixel. I am not sure what to believe. It seems all of these camera are pretty close to one another in terms of picture quality.

htcnext said:
http://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-5-camera-shootout-780369/
Interesting that in this poll with 67,000 votes the LG G6 came out on top over the S8, OnePlus 5, HTC U11, and Pixel. I am not sure what to believe. It seems all of these camera are pretty close to one another in terms of picture quality.
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That is paid by LG

Ciro54 said:
That is paid by LG
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Oh no, my xzp is not on top, must be rigged
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Very interesting camera shootout...S8 vs G6...and guess who win? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRQ7tWyA5NQ

Android Central chime in and essentially echo everything I have said about DxO and their at best 'flawed' scoring system.
https://m.androidcentral.com/editors-desk-dxomark-worthless
"Reducing a smartphone camera to a percentage score has the problem of being at once too vague and too specific. A number — a non-weighted average — doesn't do justice to the complexity of modern smartphone cameras, where performance can vary widely depending on the situation, and not all factors are equally important. At the same time, a score out of 100 implies precision. The OnePlus 5, Huawei P10 and Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+ are all equally good, the numbers tell us. The LG G6 and Moto G4 Plus, also equal, with DxO scores of 84. Anyone who's used these devices out in the real world will tell you the reality is not even close..."
"There's also a one-point difference between a Samsung Galaxy S8 and a Sony Xperia Z5, which are light-years apart in real-world performance.
This underscores the craziness of putting stock in these single numbered scores for phone cameras, particularly when the same variance can exist between two physically identical cameras and two very, very different ones. DxO scores may well serve as a decent benchmark for the raw capabilities of each camera (personally, I think even that is debatable — see the LG G6 vs Moto G4 Plus example above), but they also have the effect of muddying important details around real-world use."
"All that being said, often DxOMark scores do match up with the observations of experienced tech reviewers. The firm correctly called the Google Pixel as the best smartphone camera of 2016. And I think most reviewers would agree that the HTC U11 has, by a slender margin, probably the best phone camera released in 2017 to date.
But that shouldn't compensate for the egregious examples of DxOMark scores not lining up with reality, the most recent of which tells us that LG's flagship phone of 2017 is only as good as a year-old Motorola mid-ranger. As a result, these scores can be pretty much worthless for directly comparing two or more phones.
Bottom line: DxO's reviews are informative and well-researched. But those numbered scores? Forget 'em."

Look, I could care less about DXO scores. Having come from the OP5, and a 6P shortly before that, I can say the G6 takes better photos than both.
The OP5 would look grainy and often blurred in areas, whereas the G6 doesn't BUT seems to be a little more flat in color.
Guess which one I can correct for after the fact...
(Hint: it's not grain or blur...)

I don't listen to DXOMark I hate them but with that being said I kind of agree with the score. The G6 takes fine pictures (albeit too processed, oversharpened and oversaturated at times) but once you start zooming in it looks terrible. Lots of compression artefacts even in daylight and way oversharpened. It's so oversharpened that the bokeh gets sharpened at times and looks like a waterpainting. My V10 had much better image quality.
My problem with this is that the images can't handle post processing very well. They quickly fall apart. My iPhone is miles better in that regard and I also prefer that camera over this one because of that.

I'm starting to think there is differences in the software between different versions. My unit (h870) never had any problems, but I see a lot of people with h870ds complaning about camera quality. The only thing I agree with dxo is that the camera is inconsistent, sometimes I get a shot that outshines any other smartphone camera and sometimes it's just mediocre, I do hope they fix that in the software.

eneuro said:
I'm starting to think there is differences in the software between different versions. My unit (h870) never had any problems, but I see a lot of people with h870ds complaning about camera quality. The only thing I agree with dxo is that the camera is inconsistent, sometimes I get a shot that outshines any other smartphone camera and sometimes it's just mediocre, I do hope they fix that in the software.
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Possible. I have the H870 and prior to that the Korean G600 variant and neither had the issues some have said regarding compression artefacts and such.
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htcnext said:
By comparison, the G4 was rated 83 and the G5 85. Also, the OnePlus 5 was rated 87. Galaxy S7 and S8 were both rated 88. And the Pixel and HTC U11 were rated 89 and 90, respectively. I thought the G6 would be rated 87 or 88.
What sites are recommended for smartphone camera reviews? Is dxomark considered trustworthy?
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They rate the Sony Z5 etc so highly yet its well known that Sony has some of the worst image processing, with the IQ from their phones looking horrid on larger displays, so no I dont trust them at all. Basically the review sites love the G6 camera, but moan a little about the heavy handed NR and processing, but nothing as hectic as some other manufactures. for snaps I find the G6 auto mode perfect, and if I want a nice step up in IQ I use manual mode and process the .dng in Photoshop Express or similar.

nookcoloruser said:
Possible. I have the H870 and prior to that the Korean G600 variant and neither had the issues some have said regarding compression artefacts and such.
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Nice shot.Are some of those touch-up with editing software?