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Z3 vs Note 4 Battery and Camera

I have sony z2 i get bored of devices really quick and it's time for a upgrade. I only care for camera and battery life the most. So which out of these 2 devices you guys think will be great device for camera and battery life?
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Go check out the blind camera test comparison on Phonearena. The Note 4 did well the Z3 not so great. Consider the fact that the Note 4 and iPhone 6 and Plus all use Sony camera modules and take better pictures. The Z3 is just as capable but needs a software update to compete with them.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...comparison-iPhone-6-is-distant-second_id61676
As for battery life the Z3 and Note 4 are both great, however if you surf the web alot the AMOLED screen will actually use a lot more power than an LCD and also AMOLED is prone to screen burn as the organic phosphors wear out. The blue is the one affected typically having 8000 Hrs to 1/2 brightness. I have seen 2-3 month old phones with burn in (Display models are on 24 hrs at full brightness). If you are a casual user the Note 4 might be better but for heavy users you will most likely get noticable burn in before your 2 year contract is up.
This table is a bit dated and both LCD and AMOLED have come a long way but still useful.
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Overall I think the Z3 is the best option right now, I am sure they will make the camera better in the next update. I like Samsung but hate AMOLED so I am biased in a way.

Note 4 for Camera
Z3 for Battery
You shouldn't really be upgrading from a z2 unless your not bothered about spending money. The z2 is as good as the note 4 or the z3.
I personally would go for the z3 because touchwiz is just too much ontop of android wheras Sony just keep things almost stock like.
That ontop of the fact that quad hd screens are pointless. They actually have too many drawbacks like frame drops higher battery drain. They just aren't as smooth as 1080p displays yet.

If you're bored easily go for the note4. The z3 isn't that different from the z2 and unfortunately sony screws up with the camera software (and there is no reason to believe they'll improve it that much given the past.) Note4 wins on camera overall imo.
Z3 wins in battery but note4 shouldbdo fine there as well...

abhinav.tella said:
Go check out the blind camera test comparison on Phonearena. The Note 4 did well the Z3 not so great. Consider the fact that the Note 4 and iPhone 6 and Plus all use Sony camera modules and take better pictures. The Z3 is just as capable but needs a software update to compete with them.
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I don't agree. Also, it's true Sony makes all of the sensors, but the Z3 camera uses a 1/2.3" sensor whereas the others use a 1/3" sensor
Are you basing you opinion off of one review site? I don't think that's a good assessment.

se1000 said:
I don't agree. Also, it's true Sony makes all of the sensors, but the Z3 camera uses a 1/2.3" sensor whereas the others use a 1/3" sensor
Are you basing you opinion off of one review site? I don't think that's a good assessment.
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That link was only a blind camera comparison not a phone review by the way.
I mean Note is not bad at all but for me AMOLED kills it. I keep 2 year contracts so I get OCD about burn in lol. Just my opinion by the way.
Battery life varies based on what you use it for, webpages LCD is much better, videos oled.... LCD of current generation are getting close to oleds in efficiency in videos etc.

Battery: Z3 better about 1-1.5h Screen on time
Camera: Note 4 better accept extreme low light.
Samsung TW heavier, lagger but much more functions.
Note 4 will have much more custom Roms, Kernels, Mods so you will improve battery with after next some months.

Zanr Zij said:
Battery: Z3 better about 1-1.5h Screen on time
Camera: Note 4 better accept extreme low light.
Samsung TW heavier, lagger but much more functions.
Note 4 will have much more custom Roms, Kernels, Mods so you will improve battery with after next some months.
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Don't forget to write note 4 snapdragon variant
Exynos is famous for bad development

darkrai said:
Don't forget to write note 4 snapdragon variant
Exynos is famous for bad development
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I believe this time will change. Exynos variant will have much more development due to better CPU performance, 64bit suppport promising

Zanr Zij said:
I believe this time will change. Exynos variant will have much more development due to better CPU performance, 64bit suppport promising
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Never did happen with older sammy phones
Z3 is much better than exynos n4 in battery and is as good as snapdragon n4
In display, no phone can beat note 4 in it (except brightness)
I prefer z3's camera over note 4

darkrai said:
Never did happen with older sammy phones
Z3 is much better than exynos n4 in battery and is as good as snapdragon n4
In display, no phone can beat note 4 in it (except brightness)
I prefer z3's camera over note 4
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I already used Snap N4 a week. I'm sure that Z3 battery better, atleast 1h SoT.
Display: N4 is not the best, of course very good. It has a bit yellow tint. I compared N4 next to Dell UltraSharp calibrated.
It also is not good for your eyes due to too high contrast.

The Note 4's 16MP rear camera flaunts the fastest focusing speed owing to its latest ISOCELL sensor technology which is boosted by Galaxy S5's phase-detection auto-focus capability.
The new Note 4 also features optical image stabilisation feature for its rear camera and a 3.7MP front camera for capturing selfies as well as full HD video recording at 30fps.
In contrast, the Xperia Z3 sports an imposing 20.7MP rear camera with 8x digital zoom and 3x clear image zoom, and a compact 2.2MP front camera for capturing 1080p (Full HD) video at 30fps.

inaya45 said:
The Note 4's 16MP rear camera flaunts the fastest focusing speed owing to its latest ISOCELL sensor technology which is boosted by Galaxy S5's phase-detection auto-focus capability.
The new Note 4 also features optical image stabilisation feature for its rear camera and a 3.7MP front camera for capturing selfies as well as full HD video recording at 30fps.
In contrast, the Xperia Z3 sports an imposing 20.7MP rear camera with 8x digital zoom and 3x clear image zoom, and a compact 2.2MP front camera for capturing 1080p (Full HD) video at 30fps.
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Note 4 uses a Sony module, the GS5 uses ISOCELL.

abhinav.tella said:
Note 4 uses a Sony module, the GS5 uses ISOCELL.
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Note 4 sensor: Sony on Snapdragon, ISOCELL on Exynos.

Zanr Zij said:
Note 4 sensor: Sony on Snapdragon, ISOCELL on Exynos.
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My bad, thanks for the info.

Elephone P7000 Pioneer, 5.5" 1080p FHD, MTK6752 Octa core 64-bit, 3GB RAM

Camera Samples:
https://plus.google.com/photos/100582382505207418108/albums/6156302275625518417
Originals Zipped: http://www.mediafire.com/download/d464ch1mjdwszyu/Elephone-P7000-Photo-Samples-by-s7yler.zip
Geekbench 3 Battery Test:
http://browser.primatelabs.com/battery3/65229
There are a lot of 200 dollars phones on the market. And the competition is intense in this price range. Elephone are trying to make an impressively designed phone, and now they achieved a new level of premium design. Now you have a smartphone that's well worthy waiting for. The display aspect ratio is obviously high, almost frameless on the sides. The metal-rimmed Elephone P7000 Pioneer looks sharp and catchy. The speaker is located at the bottom of the phone, which has better sound experience than rear speaker. There is an iphone like touch fingerprint ID on the back below the camera. No more scans, but one touch. The touch ID will recognize your fingerprint from any aspect as it's a 360 degree identifier.
The Elephone Pioneer packs the MTK6752, Octa core 64-bit SoC, due to the high potential of the chipset, it uses 3GB of RAM. And Mali-T760 GPU comes with the SoC, which is still the most powerful GPU. The rear camera is 16MP with sony sensor, and the front camera is 8MP. Furthermore, it has impressive 5.5-inch 1080p FHD display, that's undoubtedly clear and sharp. The battery is not left out for such a big display, it has 3450mAh.
Even more, Elephone will make Android 5.0 and CM available later after the release. And more UIs will be made by their developers and fans. If you want to change your phones and still hesitate about which one to buy, you have another better choice over all, Elephone P7000, 199.99 USD for pre-sale on most china phone shops!
Features
Touch ID:Support 360° identify
FOTA(wireless update):Support
OTG:Support
FM:Support
Bluetooth:4.0
Certification: CE / RoHS / MSDS
Display covered by Gorilla Glass 3
Color:Black / White / Golden
CPU
MediaTek MT6752 Octa core 1.7GHz
GPU:Mali-T760 MP
Wireless&Networks
Wifi frequency:2.4G/5G
FDD-LTE:band 1/3/7/20 (800/1800/2100/2600)
WCDMA:band 1/2/5/8 (850/900/1900/2100)
GSM:band 2/3/5/8 (850/900/1800/1900)
Storage
RAM:3GB eMMC+DDR3 Memory
ROM:16GB with 800Mbps read/write speeds
Support micro SD (T-Flash) 64GB
Display
5.5" 1920*1080 pixels PPI=400
High color gamut, 178° viewing angles
Covered by Gorilla Glass 3
Multi-touch(5 points)
Camera
Rear:13MP (SONY IMX214 f/2.0)
Front:5.0MP (OV5648)
Flash:Support
Auto Focus:Support
Battery
Battery typeolymer battery
Battery content:3450mAh (removable battery)
Standby time:96 hours Talk time:8 hours
Positioning
GPS A-GPS
Operating system
Android 5.0
USB
Micro 5pin USB
Sensor
Gravity sensor / Proximity sensor / Light sensor / E-compass/ Hall sensor
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Very nice phone with low price
I have contact elephone but they can not confirm when will they launch the product
If there any coupon code please tell me. Thanks

More than 9mm thick.... This phone is not only a monster, it is a serious BRICK. And with that size having it in your pocket will be uncomfortable . Fail

PabxH said:
More than 9mm thick.... This phone is not only a monster, it is a serious BRICK. And with that size having it in your pocket will be uncomfortable . Fail
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The phone has a 3450 mAh battery, for that the thickness isn't that bad. The Xiaomi Mi4 is 8.9mm, and a HTC One M8 is 9.4mm. Sounds like you compare it with a bendable iPhone 6 Plus. THAT phone is uncomfortable in the pocket! And I don't care about a thickness a little over 9mm as long the batterylife is good. Rather that, then a thin 6mm phone that only last half a day and goes dead.

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Does it have a led notification light? I cant find that anywhere. With the removable battery, fm radio, nfc and expendable memory finally a phone which has it all.

s7yler said:
The phone has a 3450 mAh battery, for that the thickness isn't that bad. The Xiaomi Mi4 is 8.9mm, and a HTC One M8 is 9.4mm. Sounds like you compare it with a bendable iPhone 6 Plus. THAT phone is uncomfortable in the pocket! And I don't care about a thickness a little over 9mm as long the batterylife is good. Rather that, then a thin 6mm phone that only last half a day and goes dead.
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Ok, youve got some solid points there, but for me the main positive point is that elephone is well known for the constant updates, and not forgetting that there are new versions of Android constantly. At least that is what I have heard and I believe, because most chinese smartphones these days come with impressive hardware specs but forget about software. That is the main pro I see here, forgetting the fact that it is a thick phone, I think it is a good option .

s7yler said:
The rear camera is 16MP with sony sensor, and the front camera is 8MP.
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Are you sure about sony sensor? I can't find any info about sensor in Elephone P7000.

New live picture provided by efox (P7000 left, P8000 right)
More info on http://s7yler.blogspot.com/2015/01/new-picture-of-elephone-p7000-and-p8000.html

aveenhuysen said:
Does it have a led notification light? I cant find that anywhere. With the removable battery, fm radio, nfc and expendable memory finally a phone which has it all.
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Can anyone answer?

matteo2 said:
Can anyone answer?
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Sorry but there is no info yet about it. But I guess we will soon know!

Elephone P7000 specifications
matteo2 said:
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Radio: yes
NFC: yes
more details...
w**.devicespecifications.com/en/model/f9d43199

robse.android said:
Radio: yes
NFC: yes
more details...
w**.devicespecifications.com/en/model/f9d43199
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Thanks... What about notification LED? It isn't say anything about it

deliriumxp said:
Are you sure about sony sensor? I can't find any info about sensor in Elephone P7000.
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There's a promo video of the p7000 on youtube.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xd30pWYfnR0
Assuming that the video is accurate, it should have a Sony sensor. Hope this is useful!

I actually find this one sounds pretty much perfect for me. Anyone see it out for presale with a shipping date?
The Elephone site under new products it says end of April
(sorry can't link it don't have enough posts)
I'm trying to decide whether I just live with the smaller screen of the P3000S or wait a few weeks for this.

New info today!
Elephone P7000 Pioneer Presales begin. $225 with discount code!
The icing on the cake is that Elephone are shipping the Elephone P7000 with Android 5.0 Lollipop out of the box. Three colours are available including grey, silver and gold.
Source: http://www.gizchina.com/2015/04/10/elephone-p7000-pioneer-presales-begin-225-with-discount-code/

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Dev comunity?
Where will the back button and recent apps button be? Will it have a dev comunity and support? Other than this, this phone seems perfect

Im concerned that elephone lied about the camera sensor and of course wondering how much they are exaggerating the battery. If its all as it appears in the spec sheet I think this would be great
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What about ship to Italy from gizchina.com? How long does it take? Are there custom taxes?
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I just placed an order through the Manufacturer's own retail shop. I'd recommend you do the same.
And yes they have a strong Dev community and lots of future updates on all their phones, not just the
newly released !!
I will report back once I receive the phone.

Photo Samples - Blind Comparison - Results are in!

I got a chance to play with the Galaxy S7 for a while at Best Buy this morning. Amazing device! Anyways, I thought it would be fun to create a little blind photo comparison between the S7 and another phone that I will not name yet. I took the same seven photos with each camera and they are randomized here. First review all of the photos and write down which letter, A or B, you think looks better for each photo number, and then submit your answers in the poll. When we've received a decent number of votes, I'll reveal what the other phone was and which phone took each photo and tally up a winner. Enjoy!
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Now that a fairly clear pattern has emerged, I think it's safe to tally the results. I really don't think these results would change significantly from this point, although now that I'm revealing which is which you'll have to take future poll changes with a grain of salt because fanboys for either phone could come in and vote based on the phone they like and not the photos.
The other phone was a Nexus 5X.
Results:
1) Tie (S7 12 - 5X 11)
2) Galaxy S7 (2A) wins (22 - 3)
3) Galaxy S7 (3B) wins (14 - 8)
4) Galaxy S7 (4A) wins (13 - 9)
5) Nexus 5X (5A) wins (20 - 1)
6) Nexus 5X (6A) wins (16 - 6)
7) Tie (S7 11 - 5X 11)
Total votes: (Basically a tie)
Galaxy S7: 79
Nexus 5X: 78
Doesn't get much closer than that. I would say these two phones are pretty evenly matched in this particular scenario. However, results could be different in other scenarios such as low light or outdoors in natural light. Also, it's worth mentioning that the Galaxy S7 focused and took photos much faster than the Nexus 5X, which is a big factor for a lot of people, and the camera app of the S7 is obviously leaps and bounds better and a joy to use, so you really have to give a slight nod to the S7 even though the end photos were about on par.
The shots from the Galaxy S7 are 1A, 2A, 3B, 4A, 5B, 6B, and 7A.
The shots from the Nexus 5X are 1B, 2B, 3A, 4B, 5A, 6A, and 7B, obviously haha.

1a-1b = same
2a-2b = the same
3a
4b
5a
6b (but very very yellow)
7a

Canard caché said:
1a-1b = same
2a-2b = the same
3a
4b
5a
6b (but very very yellow)
7a
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I decided a poll might be a better way to compile the data, so you might want to enter your answers in that.

Honestly there isn't a big difference between any of the photos except of course for shots number 5. What it all comes down to is low-light photography, and how fast you can launch the camera and focus (not missing the shot is the important part; almost any decent high-end phone these days can take a good daylight photo).

Very difficult to choose the best however I noticed that the ones which are more lighter-whiter has slightly less detail or more distortion when I "deep" zoomed the pictures! But it is very very slightly and it is only for reference, not that it matters to me.I did put my vote but if I had an option to vote "No winner" , that will be an instant fairer vote than what I did now!

Toss3 said:
Honestly there isn't a big difference between any of the photos except of course for shots number 5. What it all comes down to is low-light photography, and how fast you can launch the camera and focus (not missing the shot is the important part; almost any decent high-end phone these days can take a good daylight photo).
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so it s not so good?

Most of these require you to look closely at the full size images to really spot a difference - and even then not always easy. Can't wait for the reveal to find out which is which, but a clear trend on the preferred results already.

Canard caché said:
so it s not so good?
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For daylight photos it's no better than the Note 4, G4, S6, S6 Edge, iPhone 6, iPhone 6S, etc., but we pretty much knew that already. What really interests me, and I'm sure many others, is how well it does in low-light situations.

Toss3 said:
For daylight photos it's no better than the Note 4, G4, S6, S6 Edge, iPhone 6, iPhone 6S, etc., but we pretty much knew that already. What really interests me, and I'm sure many others, is how well it does in low-light situations.
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yeah but even if s7 have a superb low light threatment (even what i saw didnt convince at all: you have the same with s6 and post threatment), if the "normal" conditions are blurry, with yellow filter and too much deformations, that not worth it...?

Canard caché said:
yeah but even if s7 have a superb low light threatment (even what i saw didnt convince at all: you have the same with s6 and post threatment), if the "normal" conditions are blurry, with yellow filter and too much deformations, that not worth it...?
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We'll see when the reviews are out. Pretty sure it's going to be a relatively good performer in low-light as far as smartphones are concerned (think samsung should start increasing the size of the sensor to make the photos actually look decent). Thinking about getting a really compact DSLR instead with a fixed lens instead as my Note 4 already takes pretty good photos, and the S7 isn't going to do much better (much faster sure, but pictures from an actual camera just look so much better).

Toss3 said:
We'll see when the reviews are out. Pretty sure it's going to be a relatively good performer in low-light as far as smartphones are concerned (think samsung should start increasing the size of the sensor to make the photos actually look decent). Thinking about getting a really compact DSLR instead with a fixed lens instead as my Note 4 already takes pretty good photos, and the S7 isn't going to do much better (much faster sure, but pictures from an actual camera just look so much better).
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oh i don't want a dslr... i just want something better than my s6... and so far, it's not the case at all...

Canard caché said:
oh i don't want a dslr... i just want something better than my s6... and so far, it's not the case at all...
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Pretty sure the S7 is going to be better than the S6, but not by much. You probably want to wait a year or two before upgrading, becasue there is only so much you can do with sensors at this size. The S6 already has a damn good smartphone camera and I'm not sure why you would want to switch so soon, when the differences aren't that big (if any). Looking at the Fuji X-M1 and 35mm F1.4mm lens currently, and pretty sure it would massacre any phone, and it really isn't that big.

Toss3 said:
Pretty sure the S7 is going to be better than the S6, but not by much. You probably want to wait a year or two before upgrading, becasue there is only so much you can do with sensors at this size. The S6 already has a damn good smartphone camera and I'm not sure why you would want to switch so soon, when the differences aren't that big (if any). Looking at the Fuji X-M1 and 35mm F1.4mm lens currently, and pretty sure it would massacre any phone, and it really isn't that big.
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i have a pro compact so it's not the point here...

Canard caché said:
i have a pro compact so it's not the point here...
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I know, just pointing out that if you want something significantly better than the S6, the S7 isn't it. Which compact do you have? Got to try out the S7 today at the store, and wasn't that impressed.

Toss3 said:
Got to try out the S7 today at the store, and wasn't that impressed.
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i have to try too...

Now that a fairly clear pattern has emerged, I think it's safe to tally the results. I really don't think these results would change significantly from this point, although now that I'm revealing which is which you'll have to take future poll changes with a grain of salt because fanboys for either phone could come in and vote based on the phone they like and not the photos.
The other phone was a Nexus 5X.
Results:
1) Tie (S7 12 - 5X 11)
2) Galaxy S7 (2A) wins (22 - 3)
3) Galaxy S7 (3B) wins (14 - 8)
4) Galaxy S7 (4A) wins (13 - 9)
5) Nexus 5X (5A) wins (20 - 1)
6) Nexus 5X (6A) wins (16 - 6)
7) Tie (S7 11 - 5X 11)
Total votes: (Basically a tie)
Galaxy S7: 79
Nexus 5X: 78
Doesn't get much closer than that. I would say these two phones are pretty evenly matched in this particular scenario. However, results could be different in other scenarios such as low light or outdoors in natural light. Also, it's worth mentioning that the Galaxy S7 focused and took photos much faster than the Nexus 5X, which is a big factor for a lot of people, and the camera app of the S7 is obviously leaps and bounds better and a joy to use, so you really have to give a slight nod to the S7 even though the end photos were about on par.
The shots from the Galaxy S7 are 1A, 2A, 3B, 4A, 5B, 6B, and 7A.
The shots from the Nexus 5X are 1B, 2B, 3A, 4B, 5A, 6A, and 7B, obviously haha.

How did you get to play and take pictures with the LG5? Was there a demo at Best Buy as well? I'm going there today and I will judge for myself. I did my pre-order in already for the S7 Edge. Moving up from the Note 4.

Kilroy672 said:
How did you get to play and take pictures with the LG5? Was there a demo at Best Buy as well? I'm going there today and I will judge for myself. I did my pre-order in already for the S7 Edge. Moving up from the Note 4.
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I didn't. This is a comparison between the Galaxy S7 and Nexus 5X.

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I didn't. This is a comparison between the Galaxy S7 and Nexus 5X.
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I'm sorry, I missed that. All I saw was 5 and was thinking LG5...:silly:

If you are a human and not a Simpson`s character (pic 5B), the white balance is so off. Ugly yellow cast on almost all s7 photos. I hoped some of the pics, that turned out to be the 5X, was the new Galaxy. I was looking to upgrade my s6Edge with the S7, but for now I cant justify it regarding picture quality.
Other low light pics I`ve seen also give an heavy oil painting effect and little detail.
Its still early. Things can change with software updates. Thanks to O.P for a great post!

Elephone P9000 Edge, Helio X25, 2K JDI Screen border-less, dual camera, fingerprint

Elephone P9000 Edge first leaked specs:
Mediatek Helio X25
JDI 2K
Full metal Body
Speakers with ACC technology (same as Iphone 6S)
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Elephone P9000edge equips with 2X 13MP Sony IMX258 dual camera and PDAF focus .
Among the 2 cameras, they function differently. Main camera is for shooting, and sub-camera is mainly responsible for the estimated depth of field and spatial information in order to achieve accurate and fast focus .The first big feature of the rear camera is it supports depth of field photography, namely, to blur the background, highlight photographs objects (that is, take the photo before focus).
Besides that, one of the hot topics of elephone P9000edge is making the super night view possible.Dual camera can perform better in low-light conditions, coz it can analyze which camera can do higher spot reduction and helps your phone to suppresses the noise and get the more real image.
More details on: http://www.elephone.hk/

With the poor quality of the existing P9000, will doubt this can deliver any better!

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With the poor quality of the existing P9000, will doubt this can deliver any better!
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Sensors are OK, the biggest problem for mediatek is the operating system and not optimizer drivers for camera.
Also stock app is old and awful :crying:

The p9000 is fantastic value for money but the camera is a weak point. Resolution/detail in good light are good but as soon as light deteriates, things go awry.
The lack of OIS is the biggest problem. This is hardware related so no software update can help this. Speaking of which ... elephones (mediatecs) algorithms are not the best to put it mildly, at least not for white balance in low and artificial light. Its all over the place, rarely getting colour balance right.
I have replaced the p9000 with an Op3 as my second phone but this new elephone looks promising if they fix the above whilst retaining display quality (which I find better than the Op3 and S7e, my daily driver).

edit: sorry wrong thread...

A new flagship model of Elephone will be launched in the second half of the year---Elephone P9000 Edge, which is expected by our kind users.
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This new smartphone will be allocated with Helio X25 chip and 5.7 inch 2K screen, also it will be applied with bezel-less technology.
Today we obtain these photos about of p9000 Edge and the size of screen from some ways.
From the information shown on the pictures, allocated with JDI screen, Elephone P9000 Edge will be carried with S3320A touching solution chip from Synaptics company in US.
It is reported that the screen of Elephone P9000 Edge is incell screen with 2K resolution, that means the thickness of the whole body may be controlled to thinner, picture of the screen to be more clear, gamut to be more broader, and clarity to be more high.
Seen from the hole of the screen, front physical key will be applied on Elephone P9000 Edge, which will be served as function of fingerprint recognition.
http://www.elephone.hk/

It seems a new flagship is coming in market to gain a lot of share on this price bracket.

Dual microphone noise reduction of P9000
Elephone has exposed their flagship smartphone not long ago----Elephone P9000 edge.
2K JDI 5.7 bezel-less inch screen and dual cameras and other features have atteacted the eyes of most users.
In addition, Elephone P9000Edge will be applied with dual microphone noise reduction technology.
Dual microphone noise reduction means two microphones will be built into smartphone. One is for stabilizing clear call, another is for microphone noise cancellation, which is handled by collecting outside voices.
This microphone which is for microphone noise cancellation is beneath the rear flash light of P9000edge.
The effect of dual microphone noise reduction is reducing outside noise. For example, when you are calling in a noise street, phone allocated with dual microphone noise reduction can minimize the outside noise. So person nearby can not even listen what you are saying, however, the person other end of phone can hear you clearly.
That is the effect of dual microphone noise reduction technology.
http://www.elephone.hk/

If they can't fix the issues on the current P9000, why would anyone invest in a new "flagship" model?
Seems crazy! If they can deliver on the current one and not leave it in the lurch, then maybe
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mrbubba999 said:
If they can't fix the issues on the current P9000, why would anyone invest in a new "flagship" model?
Seems crazy! If they can deliver on the current one and not leave it in the lurch, then maybe
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P9000 is working well now after aerom5, you can download CM13 as well. Android pay will work under that.

Explorer9 said:
P9000 is working well now after aerom5, you can download CM13 as well. Android pay will work under that.
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From what I've read, CM13 isn't ready, still too many bugs for daily. I'm on Eragon ROM which works ok, but still buggy and as all ROM's are based off the same source, I doubt any others will be bug free
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mrbubba999 said:
From what I've read, CM13 isn't ready, still too many bugs for daily. I'm on Eragon ROM which works ok, but still buggy and as all ROM's are based off the same source, I doubt any others will be bug free
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I have read that all bugs are solved only the GPS issue is yet to be solved. The developer Maxim AKA Deepflex is working hard on that. So that single problem will be solved soon.

With on-going exposure parameters on ElephoneP9000edge, more details also be officially confirmed.
ElephoneP9000 Edge, as the flagship device at the second half of the year 2016, not only attracts users on the parameter, also on call quality, coz dual-microphone noise reduction is used in order to achieve excellent call quality.
In addition, ElephoneP9000 Edge will also feature a full set of AAC solutions,
Handset, speaker hardware from the AAC, the audio solution is also provided by AAC.
AAC speaker is the classy speaker brand among mobile phone industry , it 's famouse for its fine arts, louder sound, difficulty to imitate .
Using AAC solution models also include iPhone, Samsung S7 Edge and so on.
Allegedly, Elephone P9000 Edge can bring comparable sound same as iPhone 6S and Samsung S7 Edge .
More details on : http://www.elephone.hk/

megthebest said:
With on-going exposure parameters on ElephoneP9000edge, more details also be officially confirmed.
ElephoneP9000 Edge, as the flagship device at the second half of the year 2016, not only attracts users on the parameter, also on call quality, coz dual-microphone noise reduction is used in order to achieve excellent call quality.
In addition, ElephoneP9000 Edge will also feature a full set of AAC solutions,
Handset, speaker hardware from the AAC, the audio solution is also provided by AAC.
AAC speaker is the classy speaker brand among mobile phone industry , it 's famouse for its fine arts, louder sound, difficulty to imitate .
Using AAC solution models also include iPhone, Samsung S7 Edge and so on.
Allegedly, Elephone P9000 Edge can bring comparable sound same as iPhone 6S and Samsung S7 Edge .
More details on : http://www.elephone.hk/
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Wow man!! Great looks, great specs, dual camera setup, everything is awesome!! when it will be released??

Anything about release date of this great phone?
Skickat från min Nokia 3110i

hi everyone y have a very small news
I asked a question elephone about news of p9000 edge,
they answered that :
But y don't understand this word : orecess

Bradco said:
hi everyone y have a very small news
I asked a question elephone about news of p9000 edge,
they answered that :
But y don't understand this word : orecess
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Process

Pro4TLZZ said:
Process
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Yes y just to understand :laugh:
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dxomark just rated the LG G6 camera an 84, agree or disagree?

By comparison, the G4 was rated 83 and the G5 85. Also, the OnePlus 5 was rated 87. Galaxy S7 and S8 were both rated 88. And the Pixel and HTC U11 were rated 89 and 90, respectively. I thought the G6 would be rated 87 or 88.
What sites are recommended for smartphone camera reviews? Is dxomark considered trustworthy?

No, not really, they have been proven to be unreliable when it comes to phone reviews. They gave 1+5 stabilization 87 (it has no ois and 4k is shaky as an earthquake), and they gave g6 - 84. That should tell you enough.

DxO should not be held as bastions of smartphone camera quality. They have given a number of devices high scores which clearly were undeserved or not representative of actual real usage. Xperia Z5 for example or even last year's HTC 10 which whilst every reviewer acknowledged camera software was buggy to say the least at launch, leading to very blurry images, DxO testing ignored that and awarded it what was then its highest score.
With OEM's now openly tuning their software to score better DxO marks and many paying DxO for the privilege, the validity of their artificial testing methodology and what it actually means for end users is an ever growing disparity.
I have both the Pixel, S8, iPhone 7+ and G6. Whilst I acknowledge the G6's main sensor or moreover the post processing of its software isn't as good, the extra versatility it's extra wide angle lens affords in real world usage makes it special. Offering photo opportunities I simply do not get in my other devices.
If your happy with the end results, DxO means sweet nothing, and is just as much about posturing as those who obsess over other artificial metrics and benchmarks that have little in common with real world usage.
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I still like the gsmarena charts (normal light and low-light)
But, since the manual mode became a thing (finally). I would honestly want to see multiple ISOs and RAW. I use RAW quite a lot (especially since snapseed works with it on the phone so I don't have to wait for a PC) and I remember clearly switching from LG G4 to S6 and S7 that the photos were underwhelming compared to G4. Especially low light long exposure ones.
I don't care that much for "who has the best jpeg out of the box" thing. If I have an important photo I will go through it in photoshop and apply different levels of noise reduction where necessary. If it's not that important I'll just finish it up in Snapseed and/or just straight up send the jpeg.
Also, I'm not that satisfied with the G5 camera. It's not a bad camera, far from it. But I wish that it would have been bigger (and more pixels like 16MP or more) and/or same megapixel count (since dual cameras so you basically have an optical zoom on it between wide and "normal") and larger sensor.
I am really interested in what the Red phone/camera will bring to the table and Nokia (coming back) also. I really wish for something like a nokia pureview 808 sensor size camera setup (or dual camera).

Mad_Duke said:
Also, I'm not that satisfied with the G5 camera. It's not a bad camera, far from it. But I wish that it would have been bigger (and more pixels like 16MP or more) and/or same megapixel count (since dual cameras so you basically have an optical zoom on it between wide and "normal") and larger sensor.
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You mean G6 r8?
Why they didn't get the idea 1st like the samsung new isocell sensor that can be configured in three different ways – Zoom, Depth sensing and Low Light shooting!

Yep. My bad when talking in a same post about G4 G6 S6 and S7 hahaha

nookcoloruser said:
I have both the Pixel, S8, iPhone 7+ and G6. Whilst I acknowledge the G6's main sensor or moreover the post processing of its software isn't as good, the extra versatility it's extra wide angle lens affords in real world usage makes it special. Offering photo opportunities I simply do not get in my other devices.
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I am disagree with your statement.They use the crap cheap mediocre sensor (IMX258) which Xiaomi & other oem use on there midrange phone.But Lg highly optimize there camera algorithm.You can check the photo compare on gsmarena or phonearen with this same sensor.

sagor1 said:
I am disagree with your statement.They use the crap cheap mediocre sensor (IMX258) which Xiaomi & other oem use on there midrange phone.But Lg highly optimize there camera algorithm.You can check the photo compare on gsmarena or phonearen with this same sensor.
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LG may have better post processing than Xiaomi but compared to Google and even Apple - its post processing is not as good. HDR is too aggressive and LG has a tendency to over sharpen.
Comparison is made to the top smartphone cameras - devices it clearly is in competition with - not some mid range ****e that no one really gives a feck about anyway.
The G6 camera is very good but it's strengths come more from the versatility the two cameras offer rather than it's software post processing.

nookcoloruser said:
LG may have better post processing than Xiaomi but compared to Google and even Apple - its post processing is not as good. HDR is too aggressive and LG has a tendency to over sharpen.
Comparison is made to the top smartphone cameras - devices it clearly is in competition with - not some mid range ****e that no one really gives a feck about anyway.
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I never said it's good as apple or pixel,because they use better sensor.I just appreciated their post processing method with this sensor.
Btw in Androidauthority blind test the g6 is winner.
I don't like the iPhone camera.

http://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-5-camera-shootout-780369/
Interesting that in this poll with 67,000 votes the LG G6 came out on top over the S8, OnePlus 5, HTC U11, and Pixel. I am not sure what to believe. It seems all of these camera are pretty close to one another in terms of picture quality.

htcnext said:
http://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-5-camera-shootout-780369/
Interesting that in this poll with 67,000 votes the LG G6 came out on top over the S8, OnePlus 5, HTC U11, and Pixel. I am not sure what to believe. It seems all of these camera are pretty close to one another in terms of picture quality.
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That is paid by LG

Ciro54 said:
That is paid by LG
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Oh no, my xzp is not on top, must be rigged
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Very interesting camera shootout...S8 vs G6...and guess who win? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRQ7tWyA5NQ

Android Central chime in and essentially echo everything I have said about DxO and their at best 'flawed' scoring system.
https://m.androidcentral.com/editors-desk-dxomark-worthless
"Reducing a smartphone camera to a percentage score has the problem of being at once too vague and too specific. A number — a non-weighted average — doesn't do justice to the complexity of modern smartphone cameras, where performance can vary widely depending on the situation, and not all factors are equally important. At the same time, a score out of 100 implies precision. The OnePlus 5, Huawei P10 and Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+ are all equally good, the numbers tell us. The LG G6 and Moto G4 Plus, also equal, with DxO scores of 84. Anyone who's used these devices out in the real world will tell you the reality is not even close..."
"There's also a one-point difference between a Samsung Galaxy S8 and a Sony Xperia Z5, which are light-years apart in real-world performance.
This underscores the craziness of putting stock in these single numbered scores for phone cameras, particularly when the same variance can exist between two physically identical cameras and two very, very different ones. DxO scores may well serve as a decent benchmark for the raw capabilities of each camera (personally, I think even that is debatable — see the LG G6 vs Moto G4 Plus example above), but they also have the effect of muddying important details around real-world use."
"All that being said, often DxOMark scores do match up with the observations of experienced tech reviewers. The firm correctly called the Google Pixel as the best smartphone camera of 2016. And I think most reviewers would agree that the HTC U11 has, by a slender margin, probably the best phone camera released in 2017 to date.
But that shouldn't compensate for the egregious examples of DxOMark scores not lining up with reality, the most recent of which tells us that LG's flagship phone of 2017 is only as good as a year-old Motorola mid-ranger. As a result, these scores can be pretty much worthless for directly comparing two or more phones.
Bottom line: DxO's reviews are informative and well-researched. But those numbered scores? Forget 'em."

Look, I could care less about DXO scores. Having come from the OP5, and a 6P shortly before that, I can say the G6 takes better photos than both.
The OP5 would look grainy and often blurred in areas, whereas the G6 doesn't BUT seems to be a little more flat in color.
Guess which one I can correct for after the fact...
(Hint: it's not grain or blur...)

I don't listen to DXOMark I hate them but with that being said I kind of agree with the score. The G6 takes fine pictures (albeit too processed, oversharpened and oversaturated at times) but once you start zooming in it looks terrible. Lots of compression artefacts even in daylight and way oversharpened. It's so oversharpened that the bokeh gets sharpened at times and looks like a waterpainting. My V10 had much better image quality.
My problem with this is that the images can't handle post processing very well. They quickly fall apart. My iPhone is miles better in that regard and I also prefer that camera over this one because of that.

I'm starting to think there is differences in the software between different versions. My unit (h870) never had any problems, but I see a lot of people with h870ds complaning about camera quality. The only thing I agree with dxo is that the camera is inconsistent, sometimes I get a shot that outshines any other smartphone camera and sometimes it's just mediocre, I do hope they fix that in the software.

eneuro said:
I'm starting to think there is differences in the software between different versions. My unit (h870) never had any problems, but I see a lot of people with h870ds complaning about camera quality. The only thing I agree with dxo is that the camera is inconsistent, sometimes I get a shot that outshines any other smartphone camera and sometimes it's just mediocre, I do hope they fix that in the software.
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Possible. I have the H870 and prior to that the Korean G600 variant and neither had the issues some have said regarding compression artefacts and such.
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htcnext said:
By comparison, the G4 was rated 83 and the G5 85. Also, the OnePlus 5 was rated 87. Galaxy S7 and S8 were both rated 88. And the Pixel and HTC U11 were rated 89 and 90, respectively. I thought the G6 would be rated 87 or 88.
What sites are recommended for smartphone camera reviews? Is dxomark considered trustworthy?
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They rate the Sony Z5 etc so highly yet its well known that Sony has some of the worst image processing, with the IQ from their phones looking horrid on larger displays, so no I dont trust them at all. Basically the review sites love the G6 camera, but moan a little about the heavy handed NR and processing, but nothing as hectic as some other manufactures. for snaps I find the G6 auto mode perfect, and if I want a nice step up in IQ I use manual mode and process the .dng in Photoshop Express or similar.

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Possible. I have the H870 and prior to that the Korean G600 variant and neither had the issues some have said regarding compression artefacts and such.
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Nice shot.Are some of those touch-up with editing software?