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The war of the Multi Core's - LG Optimus 2X Vs Samsung Galaxy S II

LG OPTIMUS 2X
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Specifications :-
DISPLAY :- 4.0 inches IPS Display Panel with Gorilla Glass edge to edge Display, at 480 X 800 pixels.
WEIGHT :- 139 grams
MEMORY:- 8GB internal, 512 MB RAM, upto 32GB microSD
CAMERA: - 8 MP, 3264x2448 pixels, autofocus, LED flash, Front : 1.3 MP
OS:- Android 2.2 Froyo, upgradeable to 2.3 Gingerbread
CPU:- Dual-Core 1GHz with NVIDIA Tegra 2
FEATURES:- HDMI Port, Digital Compass, Adobe Flash 10.1, DivX/Xvid/MP4/H.264/H.263/WMV player.
BATTERY:- Stand-by - 400hrs, Talk time - 7 h 50 min
SAMSUNG GALAXY S II / 2
Specifications :-
DISPLAY :- 4.3 inches, Super AMOLED Gorilla Glass Display, Touch Wiz UI v4.0, 480x800 pixels.
WEIGHT :- 116g
MEMORY:- 16GB/32GB internal, 1GB RAM, 8GB MicroSD included.
CAMERA:- 8 MP, 3264x2448 pixels, autofocus, LED flash, Front 2MP.
OS :- Android Gingerbread 2.3
CPU :- Dual Core 1.2 Ghz ARM Cortex- A9 Processor, Mali-400 MP GPU, Orion Chipset
FEATURES:- Active Noise cancelling, TV-out(a/V Link), Swype (Text Input), Adobe Flash 10.1, Image/video editor,MP4/DivX/XviD/WMV/H.264/H.263 player.
BATTERY:- Stand-by - 710 h (2G) / Up to 610 h (3G), Talk time - 18 h 20 min (2G) / Up to 8 h 40 min (3G)
COMPARISON : -
1. DISPLAY:- Both LG Optimus 2X and Samsung GALAXY S II have the Gorilla Glass Edge-to-Edge display.
But Samsung Galaxy S II outshines the LG Optimus 2X, with its Awesome Super AMOLED display which is 0.3 inches larger than it's counterpart.
2. CPU:- LG Optimus 2X has the power of the NVIDIA Tegra 2 with its dedicated Video and Image Decoder, it easily the winner against the ARM Cortex A9 when it comes to Video Quality.
But the A9 packs a little more power with its 1.2Ghz clock speed, which is slight higher to NVIDIA Tegra 2's 1Ghz.
3. CAMERA:- Both share the 8MP Rear Camera but Reviews indicate Samsung has better Quality, whereas the for the Front Cam Samsung Galaxy S II has 2MP in comparison to Optimus 2X's 1.3MP
4. OS:- Samsung Galaxy S II comes loaded up with 2.3 Gingerbread, but for LG Optimus 2X one need to update it manually.
5. BATTERY:- When it comes to battery the AMOLED Display has no comparison with its Awesome Battery Life, Samsung Galaxy S II shows almost twice the Battery Life of LG Optimus 2X
6. FEATURES:- In features LG Optimus 2X has only one benefit, its HDMI output which is absent in the Samsung Galaxy S II.
If you can exclude the HDMI then Samsung Galaxy S II has no comparison with its TouchWiz. v4.0 and its Swype input features.
CONCLUSION :-
Until unless one is obsessed with LG.
SAMSUNG GALAXY S II is the One Of Kind Smart Phone to own.
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Source: [ GizMee ] Android Specs

what? The Galaxy S2 has HDMI output also, it just comes out of the micro USB port instead of having a separate hole.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POsTkMJ6YEE
edit: Yeah it's called MHL, it's actually a lot better than just having an HDMI port.

5. BATTERY:- When it comes to battery the AMOLED Display has no comparison with its Awesome Battery Life, Samsung Galaxy S II shows almost twice the Battery Life of LG Optimus 2X
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This line.. This line... LOL 2 sec need to pull my self together.
This line sound extremely biased.
...has no comparison with its Awesome Battery Life, Samsung Galaxy S II shows almost twice the Battery Life...
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Is that true? From what I have been reading on this forum that is not certainly true...

SGS2 is unparalleled, BUT Samsung should've stuck with 4 inch display.

Okay OP first of all.
The Tegra 2 is a "SoC chip" it has the same ARM Cortex A9 CPU.
It's the GPU thats different the ULP GeForce (GeForce GPU 333 MHz(T20)/300 MHz(AP20H) vs ARM Mali-400 MP
Wikipedia quoute :
"The Exynos 4210, unlike Tegra 2, features support for ARM's SIMD engine (Media Processing Engine, a.k.a NEON instructions) and this may have a significant performance advantage in some cases over Tegra 2 in critical performance situations such as accelerated decoding for multiple multimedia codecs and formats (e.g., On2's VP6/7/8 or Real formats)."
So in terms of processing power when it comes to video the Exynos SoC wins. When it comes to Tegra games we have yet to see an "emulator" of some sort to enable the playing og Tegra games on the Exynos Galaxy but if benchmarks are to be trusted the Exynos chipset lags behind just a few fps 1~5 behind the Nvidia Geforce ULP
More about it here
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-mali-400mp-gpu-and-vs-tegra-2/
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4177/samsungs-galaxy-s-ii-preliminary-performance-mali400-benchmarked
As for the Camera the Galaxy S2 can shoot video in 1080p @ 30 fps comapred to the LG O2X's 24 fps. And the actually camera on the device seems to be better on the samsung.

Mew178 said:
Okay OP first of all.
The Tegra 2 is a "SoC chip" it has the same ARM Cortex A9 CPU.
It's the GPU thats different the ULP GeForce (GeForce GPU 333 MHz(T20)/300 MHz(AP20H) vs ARM Mali-400 MP
Wikipedia quoute :
"The Exynos 4210, unlike Tegra 2, features support for ARM's SIMD engine (Media Processing Engine, a.k.a NEON instructions) and this may have a significant performance advantage in some cases over Tegra 2 in critical performance situations such as accelerated decoding for multiple multimedia codecs and formats (e.g., On2's VP6/7/8 or Real formats)."
So in terms of processing power when it comes to video the Exynos SoC wins. When it comes to Tegra games we have yet to see an "emulator" of some sort to enable the playing og Tegra games on the Exynos Galaxy but if benchmarks are to be trusted the Exynos chipset lags behind just a few fps 1~5 behind the Nvidia Geforce ULP
More about it here
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-mali-400mp-gpu-and-vs-tegra-2/
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4177/samsungs-galaxy-s-ii-preliminary-performance-mali400-benchmarked
As for the Camera the Galaxy S2 can shoot video in 1080p @ 30 fps comapred to the LG O2X's 24 fps. And the actually camera on the device seems to be better on the samsung.
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Actually, the SGS2 has been able to play Tegra games for a while now.
Using Chainfire3D from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1087427, and installing the Nvidia plugins, you can play any TegraHD game such as Samurai II: Vengeance etc. Performance is top-notch as well.

ragiut1 said:
SGS2 is unparalleled, BUT Samsung should've stuck with 4 inch display.
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Thats personal preference, I personal think 4.3 inch is the optimal size.

Seems like the OP posted some obvious information to direct more traffic to his website that doesn't seem to even work...
Anyway, GSMArena did a much better article comparing the two: http://www.gsmarena.com/galaxy_s_ii_vs_galaxy_s_plus_vs_optimus_2x-review-602.php

Anyone know the name of the clock & weather widget on the LG?
EDIT: here is the answer to my question
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11192505&postcount=140

poofish said:
Actually, the SGS2 has been able to play Tegra games for a while now.
Using Chainfire3D from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1087427, and installing the Nvidia plugins, you can play any TegraHD game such as Samurai II: Vengeance etc. Performance is top-notch as well.
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Actually it can't do EVERY game and with most there are problems since it is emulating. Textures (RAW), lower quality textures, Pop-in, Force Closes/Crashes, Strange Colors, Slow Performance, or just not working. On top of that you have to illegally download the games since they won't show up in the market.

rex-tc said:
Actually it can't do EVERY game and with most there are problems since it is emulating. Textures (RAW), lower quality textures, Pop-in, Force Closes/Crashes, Strange Colors, Slow Performance, or just not working. On top of that you have to illegally download the games since they won't show up in the market.
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You can enable the market by using NVIDIA plugin to get all Tegra games to show up & they are purchasable.

i have an uber pc if i want to play games. On a cell phone...tetris is just fine or a standard genesis emulator, while on the crapper.

The G2X (the O2X U.S. variant) is the only phone I've owned that I can truly say I hated. The LCD screen bled, it randomly froze, it rebooted itself mid-call, Wi-Fi and Bluetooth profiles disappeared and reappeared randomly, and it used 3/4G data when connected to Wi-Fi. I could go on but you get the idea. Other than having HDMI out, 1080P video, and a dual-core processor it's a last-generation phone. I wouldn't own an LG phone again if it were free and came with free calling and data service.

Poor comparison. So many mistakes and errors in it, typical of someone who has not used both Tegra2 and Exynos equipped devices.
Tegra2 has a dedicated video and image decder being a plus? It can't even process 1080p video, which the Exynos can.
And then the SGSII battery life, no way will you be able to attain that sort of life. Someone at Samsung fudged the battery life numbers as the battery will last only under 8 hours of constant phone calls!

Apart from the metal Google thing the Optimus has on it's back...is there even a comparison to be made??

Yeah, there is. Check out these benchmarks:
http://tweakers.net/reviews/2147/5/shootout-dualcore-smartphones-tegenover-elkaar-benchmarks-i.html
It has nice statistics where LG sometimes even wins, but overall the SGS2 wins.

LG Optimus 2x can't even play 720p and 1080p on youtube
Browser test: Galaxy S II vs. Galaxy S Plus vs. Optimus 2X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCUkYyfBx4w&feature=player_embedded
Browsers 1080p (Youtube) video playback tests Galaxy SII (I9100,S2)＆Optimus 2X(P990)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYkEUOA6Spo
Though, something is really wrong on the LG2x as tegra2 should easily do atleast 720p smoothly. Probably, a GB update might help.

khein said:
LG Optimus 2x can't even play 720p and 1080p on youtube
Browser test: Galaxy S II vs. Galaxy S Plus vs. Optimus 2X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCUkYyfBx4w&feature=player_embedded
Browsers 1080p (Youtube) video playback tests Galaxy SII (I9100,S2)&Optimus 2X(P990)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYkEUOA6Spo
Though, something is really wrong on the LG2x as tegra2 should easily do atleast 720p smoothly. Probably, a GB update might help.
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Quite a difference in the 1080p youtube tests and I agree with another poster the OP's comments have a lot of holes and misinformation.

Well i don't understand half of the errors showd up to 2X. I had one and it played 1080p youtube videos flawless... and if you look for it i'm not alone.

SGS2 wins.

Galaxy Note II Benchmarks leaked!?

Have a look at this guys..
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/20/did-the-galaxy-note-iis-impressive-benchmarks-briefly-get-leake/
What do you say? Everything looks just right, specswise Note II looks like a higher clocked and bigger S3, just like it was with the Note and S2. But the resolution could never be that, right?

sujal said:
Have a look at this guys..
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/20/did-the-galaxy-note-iis-impressive-benchmarks-briefly-get-leake/
What do you say? Everything looks just right, specswise Note II looks like a higher clocked and bigger S3, just like it was with the Note and S2. But the resolution could never be that, right?
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Good news and bad news for me. The bad news is im under 2 years contract i cannot uprade till another year.:crying:

jonpaslim said:
Good news and bad news for me. The bad news is im under 2 years contract i cannot uprade till another year.:crying:
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Glad we don't have these contracts here in India, gonna get it maybe within a month of it's launch!

sujal said:
Have a look at this guys..
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/20/did-the-galaxy-note-iis-impressive-benchmarks-briefly-get-leake/
What do you say? Everything looks just right, specswise Note II looks like a higher clocked and bigger S3, just like it was with the Note and S2. But the resolution could never be that, right?
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Considering the rumored increase in screen size to 5.5" and keeping the same form factor, the only way to achive that is to go for a 16:9 aspect ratio, compared to the current 16:10 screen. With that comes the "downgrade" from 800 pixels to 720 pixels.
The physical width of the screen will thus probably stay the same, maybe a bit wider, but the height will get a nice boost.
Hm, calculating the width and height, something doesn't seem right.
5.3" Note (16:10)
Screen area: 12.62"
Height: 4.49" (11.42 cm)
Width: 2.81" (7.13 cm)
Rumored 5.5" Note 2 (16:9)
Screen area: 12.92
Height: 4.8" (12.18 cm) (a bit taller)
Width: 2.69" (6.84 cm) (SLIMMER!)
If they go with a 16:9 screen and if they decide to keep the form factor the same, they could go for a screen display of at least 5.7" and still keep the casing the same.
If they however stick with a 5.5" screen size, 16:9 ratio and a reduced bazel, the note will get a almost 0.5cm slimmer

Well that settles it. I was hoping the Note II would have A15 architecture but instead it's just a larger SIII. I will wait til the Note III. I don't see the Exynos 4412 as worthy of upgrading to.

inurb said:
Well that settles it. I was hoping the Note II would have A15 architecture but instead it's just a larger SIII. I will wait til the Note III. I don't see the Exynos 4412 as worthy of upgrading to.
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It's unfortunate. I'm sure responsiveness will be a big increase as the quad core chip set will be better able to pump out all these pixels and the GPU will be an upgrade, too. But still..
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honf said:
Considering the rumored increase in screen size to 5.5" and keeping the same form factor, the only way to achive that is to go for a 16:9 aspect ratio, compared to the current 16:10 screen. With that comes the "downgrade" from 800 pixels to 720 pixels.
The physical width of the screen will thus probably stay the same, maybe a bit wider, but the height will get a nice boost.
Hm, calculating the width and height, something doesn't seem right.
5.3" Note (16:10)
Screen area: 12.62"
Height: 4.49" (11.42 cm)
Width: 2.81" (7.13 cm)
Rumored 5.5" Note 2 (16:9)
Screen area: 12.92
Height: 4.8" (12.18 cm) (a bit taller)
Width: 2.69" (6.84 cm) (SLIMMER!)
If they go with a 16:9 screen and if they decide to keep the form factor the same, they could go for a screen display of at least 5.7" and still keep the casing the same.
If they however stick with a 5.5" screen size, 16:9 ratio and a reduced bazel, the note will get a almost 0.5cm slimmer
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Always been bad at maths so it took me a while to get it but yeah I would love a slimmer and a bigger note II with the same 16:9 ratio..
Sent from my Galaxy Note running Cassie's XtraLiteRom ICS v6 using XDA Premium xD

Yes...
I'm just waiting for it :]

16:9, mali-400 again, ¿ram?
if these are final specs, then go fcuk yourself samsung, I'll wait to Note 3 or the rumored bigger htc

16:9 would be a lot better.
I liked my AT&T Note, but it was too wide and the chipset wasn't powerful enough

Hope the resolution stays the same or higher. Web browsing is a lot easier with more vertical res. (phone horizontally obviously).
Don't have the current Note (have the original Galaxy S!), but will probably get the Note 2 when it is out. Perfect compromise between phone and tablet if you want both in one device IMO.

szqnl said:
Hope the resolution stays the same or higher. Web browsing is a lot easier with more vertical res. (phone horizontally obviously).
Don't have the current Note (have the original Galaxy S!), but will probably get the Note 2 when it is out. Perfect compromise between phone and tablet if you want both in one device IMO.
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Surely is..
Sent from my Galaxy Note running Cassie's XtraLiteRom ICS v6 using XDA Premium xD

Some leaks online, looks like the NOTE 2 will be:
- officially revealed in 15th August
- available (international) in September-October period
- codename GT-N7100
- Android 4.0.4 with TouchWizz 5
- Have the same SoC as the SGS3 (Exynos 4412)
- Slightly overclocked cpu (1.6GHz) and gpu (Mali-400)
- Larger 2GB RAM
- Super Amoled Plus tech (not PenTile)
- 1280 x 720 resolution
- On-screen Navigation Buttons
- Slightly larger 5.5inch display
- Slightly Wider, Thinner, about the same Height.
- 12MP camera
- NFC
- Possibly bigger battery (between 2500 and 3200mAh)
... it's more like a NOTE1.5 or SGS 3.5 than anything else. I think its safe to "pass" on this, if you have the original NOTE.
This revelation isn't a shock to me, but a big disappointment since I was hoping for a genuine NOTE 2:
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Kangal said:
Some leaks online, looks like the NOTE 2 will be:
- officially revealed in 15th August
- available (international) in September-October period
- codename GT-N7100
- Android 4.0.4 with TouchWizz 5
- Have the same SoC as the SGS3 (Exynos 4412)
- Slightly overclocked cpu (1.6GHz) and gpu (Mali-400)
- Larger 2GB RAM
- Super Amoled Plus tech (not PenTile)
- 1280 x 720 resolution
- On-screen Navigation Buttons
- Slightly larger 5.5inch display
- Slightly Wider, Thinner, about the same Height.
- 12MP camera
- NFC
- Possibly bigger battery (between 2500 and 3200mAh)
... it's more like a NOTE1.5 or SGS 3.5 than anything else. I think its safe to "pass" on this, if you have the original NOTE.
This revelation isn't a shock to me, but a big disappointment since I was hoping for a genuine NOTE 2:
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If its gonna be quad core then I think it would most definitely have just a single GB of RAM. There won't be any on screen buttons, it would also be "designed for humans" like GSIII. Camera might just be 8MP with the same tech as SGIII. I rather think the screen would be pentile (galaxy nexus and GSIII both have pentile displays). Might be 4.0.4 but I would think they might even launch it with JB now that JB is officialy out.
To summarize, its gonna be a bigger S3.
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I enjoy my note.
But with those specs, I 'd rather go the Gnex + Nexus7 route. Google experience devices are a win win situation for anyone that doesn't need to be on the bleeding edge.

The only deciding factor for me would be slightly bigger screen size. And if it goes with 16:9 ratio with 5.5", it doesn't increase acutal screen area. So not much interested. Will wait for GSNote 3.

Come on guys, quad core and NFC alone is worth the upgrade!!

Sad... i dont like those specs ..

ipguy said:
Come on guys, quad core and NFC alone is worth the upgrade!!
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NFC is not that popular and Mali-400MP4 not that bleeding edge.
Gimme Exynos 5 Dual with ARM15 and a Mali-604 and I am game

Same screen resolution and same RAM amount == not worthy upgrade

Galaxy Note 2 vs Galaxy Note 1 Tech Specs

Galaxy Note
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Galaxy Note II
Processor 1.4 GHz ARM dual-core Cortex-A9 1.6 GHz quad-core processor
RAM 1GB 2GB
Display Type HD Super AMOLED HD Super AMOLED
Display Specs 5.3-inch, WXGA (1280x800), 285ppi 5.5-inch (1,280 x 720)
Storage 16GB/32GB (expandable with microSD) 16GB/32GB/64GB (expandable with microSD)
Operating System Android 2.3 (At release, has since been updated) Android 4.1 Jelly Bean
Networks GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
LTE 700 (region specific) 3G: HSPA＋ 21Mbps (HSDPA 21Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps)
4G LTE: 100Mbps/ 50Mbps (HDSPA 42Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps)
Rear Camera 8MP, 3264x2448 pixels, autofocus, LED flash, 1080p HD recording 8 Megapixel Auto Focus Camera with LED Flash, BSI
Front Camera 2 MP 1.9 Megapixel VT Camera, BSI
Battery 2500 mAh Standard battery, Li-ion 3,100mAh
Wi-Fi Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n, DLNA, Wi-Fi Direct, Wi-Fi hotspot WiFi 802.11 a/b/g/n (2.4 & 5 GHz), Wi-Fi HT40, Wi-Fi Direct
Bluetooth Bluetooth 3.0 with A2DP, EDR Bluetooth v 4.0 (Apt-X Codec support) LE
Connectivity MicroUSB MicroUSB
Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer A-GPS, Glonass
Height 5.78 inches (146.8mm) 5.94 inches (151.1mm)
Width 3.27 inches (83mm) 3.16 inches (80.5mm)
Depth 0.38 inch (9.7mm) 0.37 inch (9.4mm)
Weight 6.29 ounces (178 grams) 6.34 ounces (180 grams)
Colors Black, White Marble White and Titanium Gray
Supported Audio Formats MP3/WAV/eAAC+/AC3/FLAC MP3, OGG, WMA, AAC, ACC＋, eAAC＋, AMR(NB,WB), MIDI, WAV, AC-3, Flac
Supported Video Formats MP4/DivX/XviD/WMV/H.264/H.263 Codec: MPEG4, H.263, H.264, VC-1, DivX, WMV7, WMV8, WMV9, VP8
Format: 3GP(MP4), WMV(ASF), AVI, FLV, MKV, WebM
Full HD(1080p) Playback & Recording

Samsung Marketing Director - Super Amoled+ Slip???
Listen to this CNET First Look video of the Note 2 at the 5 second mark. Ryan Bidan, Product Marketing Director, Samsung states "So this is a 5.5" Super Amoled+ HD display" then goes on to say "basically the next evolution of our super amoled technology". Could that have been a mis-statement? Or does the Note 2 really use Super Amoled Plus?
http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-note-2/4505-6452_7-35426722.html

thph2006 said:
Listen to this CNET First Look video of the Note 2 at the 5 second mark. Ryan Bidan, Product Marketing Director, Samsung states "So this is a 5.5" Super Amoled+ HD display" then goes on to say "basically the next evolution of our super amoled technology". Could that have been a mis-statement? Or does the Note 2 really use Super Amoled Plus?
http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-note-2/4505-6452_7-35426722.html
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It's not 'plus' according to the show.
However, Samsung often upgrades the final product. It may be 'plus' when they ship.
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LED notification still missing???
So what is the RGB Light below, in the list of sensors, taken from the press link (http://www.samsungmobilepress.com/2012/08/30/Be-Creative,-Be-Expressive-with-the-GALAXY-Note-II) ??
Sensors : Accelerometer, RGB Light, Digital Compass, Proximity, Gyro, Barometer
Is this a notification light (AT LAST!!!) or just the light sensor........?

There is a notification LED
See this video around the 2:44 mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kupLCHgVMXA
Thanks to one other thread

zas311 said:
It's not 'plus' according to the show.
However, Samsung often upgrades the final product. It may be 'plus' when they ship.
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The Verge
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looks like each pixel has a red, green and blue subpixel, just not in a Stripe arrangement...

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looks like each pixel has a red, green and blue subpixel, just not in a Stripe arrangement...
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too bad 267 DPI only....

kfheaven said:
too bad 267 DPI only....
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i'll survive. hope my cell company gets this.

Firstly, what Samsung show cases will be the final shipping product. Harare
Software may change but the hardware won't.
Second point is, this isn't an RGB screen. The Verge picture proves that.
Its Pentile again, it's arranged in a rectangle pattern, but that's definitely PenTile there.
Things which Samsung hasn't confirmed include:
- battery, user replaceable (probably is)
- microSD (probably has)
- GLONASS (no clue)
Looks like this is a smaller upgrade than anyone expected. Definitely smaller upgrade than the S2 to S3.
The only advantages seen to be software and battery life. Given the right conditions, the OG NOTE can keep up with NOTE 2's performance.
I hope LG comes up with something competitive soon, otherwise Um holding on to the NOTE 1 longer than intended.

Kangal said:
Firstly, what Samsung show cases will be the final shipping product. Harare
Software may change but the hardware won't.
Second point is, this isn't an RGB screen. The Verge picture proves that.
Its Pentile again, it's arranged in a rectangle pattern, but that's definitely PenTile there.
Things which Samsung hasn't confirmed include:
- battery, user replaceable (probably is)
- microSD (probably has)
- GLONASS (no clue)
Looks like this is a smaller upgrade than anyone expected. Definitely smaller upgrade than the S2 to S3.
The only advantages seen to be software and battery life. Given the right conditions, the OG NOTE can keep up with NOTE 2's performance.
I hope LG comes up with something competitive soon, otherwise Um holding on to the NOTE 1 longer than intended.
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if it isn't an RGB screen, what subpixels are not evenly represented?
it's not arranged in Stripe formation, but each pixel definitely has a red, green and blue subpixel.
also from The Verge. MicroSD, Removable Battery.

Wow, someone had the bright idea to allow you to remove the microsd without removing the battery! :laugh:

rowee270 said:
Wow, someone had the bright idea to allow you to remove the microsd without removing the battery! :laugh:
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Saw that too. Insert/remove the external micro sd without powering off the phone. what a novel idea! Too bad the resolution is lower on this than the Note I.

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Sorry please carry on the discussion in the new Sticky for the NOTE 2..
THIS IS NOW CLOSED

[SPECS] HTC One (M9) Specifications

Hey all
Here are more up to date listings of the specifications for the HTC M9, they are still TBC, but should be more helpful than the existing OP (now post #2). I'll duplicate this post as the OP as it's more informative:good:
I'll update with more as we get information.
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Specifications:
Display - Super LCD3, 5.0 inches, 1080 x 1920 pixels (~441 ppi pixel density)
Chipset - Qualcomm MSM8994 Snapdragon 810
CPU - Quad-core 1.5 GHz Cortex-A53 & Quad-core 2 GHz Cortex-A57
GPU - Adreno 430
RAM - 3 GB
Memory - 32/64 GB
Camera - 20.7 MP, 5248 х 3936 pixels, autofocus, dual-LED (dual tone) flash
Secondary Camera - 4 MP
Sensors - Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer
Connectivity - Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, hotspot, Bluetooth V4.1
Battery - 2840 mAh
Dimensions - 144.3 x 69.4 x 9.6 mm
Weight - 158 g
Color Availability - Gunmetal Gray, Glacial Silver, Amber Gold​
Source gsmarena

HTC M9 / HTC Hima specs
The HTC M9 specs rumored leaked. Same specs as droid turbo. Those specs will be outdated by the time it comes out. They need to step up their game with Snapdragon 810, 16 ultrapixel cam 8mp front cam. 4k screen if possible prob not though. 64 bit processor, 3 gig ram 3gh 30% louder boomsound. I even emailed HTC about it today. I feel they should listen to people about what they need in a phone.

MsEvyLynch said:
The HTC M9 specs rumored leaked. Same specs as droid turbo. Those specs will be outdated by the time it comes out. They need to step up their game with Snapdragon 810, 16 ultrapixel cam 8mp front cam. 4k screen if possible prob not though. 64 bit processor, 3 gig ram 3gh 30% louder boomsound. I even emailed HTC about it today. I feel they should listen to people about what they need in a phone.
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I could care less about the cpu processor at this point. it only can get so good with phones.. The cpu it have now is plenty fine . The camera needs updated, and work on the boom sound some more.
I could care less about a 4k screen
A phone does not need a 64gb processor
so:
-better camaera
-improve boom
-Improve screen
-larger screen
- it will be sweet if they could make the buttons on the side touch

that are just rumored specs, which aren't official yet so yea i assume the real specs will be different!

MsEvyLynch said:
The HTC M9 specs rumored leaked. Same specs as droid turbo. Those specs will be outdated by the time it comes out. They need to step up their game with Snapdragon 810, 16 ultrapixel cam 8mp front cam. 4k screen if possible prob not though. 64 bit processor, 3 gig ram 3gh 30% louder boomsound. I even emailed HTC about it today. I feel they should listen to people about what they need in a phone.
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Who are you. HTC know what they are doing. Most people buy phones every two years, so they are catering to the people with m7s

MsEvyLynch said:
The HTC M9 specs rumored leaked. Same specs as droid turbo. Those specs will be outdated by the time it comes out. They need to step up their game with Snapdragon 810, 16 ultrapixel cam 8mp front cam. 4k screen if possible prob not though. 64 bit processor, 3 gig ram 3gh 30% louder boomsound. I even emailed HTC about it today. I feel they should listen to people about what they need in a phone.
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Who are you. HTC know what they are doing. Most people buy phones every two years, so they are catering to the people with m7s
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Most people do NOT buy every 2 years. More like every year , a very small percentage do the every 2 year thing

Show me your source.

MsEvyLynch said:
The HTC M9 specs rumored leaked. Same specs as droid turbo. Those specs will be outdated by the time it comes out. They need to step up their game with Snapdragon 810, 16 ultrapixel cam 8mp front cam. 4k screen if possible prob not though. 64 bit processor, 3 gig ram 3gh 30% louder boomsound. I even emailed HTC about it today. I feel they should listen to people about what they need in a phone.
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Wow are you requesting a spaceship?
1- nothing is called M9 it's HIMA now.
2- No 4K screens yet.
3- bigger speakers bigger camera means way thicker phone.
4- 8MP on the front is #fail. You need something like Ultrapixel so image quality will be the same in sunlight and dark conditions. Even our 5MP front camera sucks in low light.

cpugeeker said:
show me yours
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http://mobilefuture.org/resources/international-comparisons-the-handset-replacement-cycle-2/

Art2Fly said:
Show me your source.
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Art2Fly said:
http://mobilefuture.org/resources/international-comparisons-the-handset-replacement-cycle-2/
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So you did a quick google search to find the first phoney website that reported user upgrade every 2 years. let alone, the article is dated JUNE 2011.. Failed!!! On so many levels
users now are updating every year, that is why tmobile, Verizon,sprint and ATT offers early upgrading. if it was not a niche for it companies would not be offering it
People are upgrading phones when ever they see one they like which is 6 months to 1 year
try again:silly:

cpugeeker said:
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Here's my sources http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/...2-inch-qhd-display-and-snapdragon-805-inbound

The Sony Z4 is supposed to be Snapdragon 810 so HTC should be doing 64bit soon since their mid-range is already 64bit.
HTC One M8

I really hope we are not forced to go above 5" if we want a flagship HTC phone.
Fingerss crossed for:
5" 1080p or QHD
8mp+ ultra pixel
805 sOC
2GB or 3GB ram
32GB minimum storage with SD support
minimum bezel (remove the HTC logo part)
Dual speakers
something like

5.2" would be perfect.
HTC One M8

Bring on HTC 6 inch GPE phone. In 2014 bigger is better

md1008 said:
Bring on HTC 6 inch GPE phone. In 2014 bigger is better
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But this will come out 2015. Bigger is better would be so last year

Honestly I don't see trend disappearing any time soon. Go figure a phablet in 2011-2012 with the original note was 5.3 now that is considered normal lol

I need
At least a 5.5 with thin bezels like LG.. (qhd wont really matter, apps are not optimized)
16mp/5mp
805/810
3GB RAM
Louder Boom Sound Speakers
Bigger Battery
32Gb/64Gb

cpugeeker said:
Most people do NOT buy every 2 years. More like every year , a very small percentage do the every 2 year thing
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Do you only know people who are all like us? My mom is using a Note 2, one brother an S4, and my other brother a Note 3. One of my buddies is still using an One M7 . Know a few other people who are using older phones than those too.

cpugeeker said:
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No way, this might be the case in the US, Europe, Japan and smaller richer Asian countries but definitely not the majority of the people. It's not affordable for them which is precisely why Google wanted to change their tactics and bring out affordable devices that runs latest Android but at a cheaper price like the Moto G(?) and the Nexus devices(Even though it's not widely available). It's common fact that majority of the users of Android still use old Android versions(Honeycomb, Gingerbread, ICS). This is definitely true where I'm at as well, I see a lot of people with early Android devices, most of them walk with S3s, few people have the S4, S5, HTC One M8/M7 or Sony Xperia Z, Z2 haven't even seen anyone with a Z3.
It's not affordable for the majority of people on this planet and statistics like that should include everyone not just those from wealthy 1st world countries where buying a phone every 6months is the fashionable thing to do.
That being said, this entire topic shouldn't even be here, it should be in the OFF-Topic or general section(Not related to a specific device forum). So I just made my post before the close.

Elephone P7000 Pioneer, 5.5" 1080p FHD, MTK6752 Octa core 64-bit, 3GB RAM

Camera Samples:
https://plus.google.com/photos/100582382505207418108/albums/6156302275625518417
Originals Zipped: http://www.mediafire.com/download/d464ch1mjdwszyu/Elephone-P7000-Photo-Samples-by-s7yler.zip
Geekbench 3 Battery Test:
http://browser.primatelabs.com/battery3/65229
There are a lot of 200 dollars phones on the market. And the competition is intense in this price range. Elephone are trying to make an impressively designed phone, and now they achieved a new level of premium design. Now you have a smartphone that's well worthy waiting for. The display aspect ratio is obviously high, almost frameless on the sides. The metal-rimmed Elephone P7000 Pioneer looks sharp and catchy. The speaker is located at the bottom of the phone, which has better sound experience than rear speaker. There is an iphone like touch fingerprint ID on the back below the camera. No more scans, but one touch. The touch ID will recognize your fingerprint from any aspect as it's a 360 degree identifier.
The Elephone Pioneer packs the MTK6752, Octa core 64-bit SoC, due to the high potential of the chipset, it uses 3GB of RAM. And Mali-T760 GPU comes with the SoC, which is still the most powerful GPU. The rear camera is 16MP with sony sensor, and the front camera is 8MP. Furthermore, it has impressive 5.5-inch 1080p FHD display, that's undoubtedly clear and sharp. The battery is not left out for such a big display, it has 3450mAh.
Even more, Elephone will make Android 5.0 and CM available later after the release. And more UIs will be made by their developers and fans. If you want to change your phones and still hesitate about which one to buy, you have another better choice over all, Elephone P7000, 199.99 USD for pre-sale on most china phone shops!
Features
Touch ID:Support 360° identify
FOTA(wireless update):Support
OTG:Support
FM:Support
Bluetooth:4.0
Certification: CE / RoHS / MSDS
Display covered by Gorilla Glass 3
Color:Black / White / Golden
CPU
MediaTek MT6752 Octa core 1.7GHz
GPU:Mali-T760 MP
Wireless&Networks
Wifi frequency:2.4G/5G
FDD-LTE:band 1/3/7/20 (800/1800/2100/2600)
WCDMA:band 1/2/5/8 (850/900/1900/2100)
GSM:band 2/3/5/8 (850/900/1800/1900)
Storage
RAM:3GB eMMC+DDR3 Memory
ROM:16GB with 800Mbps read/write speeds
Support micro SD (T-Flash) 64GB
Display
5.5" 1920*1080 pixels PPI=400
High color gamut, 178° viewing angles
Covered by Gorilla Glass 3
Multi-touch(5 points)
Camera
Rear:13MP (SONY IMX214 f/2.0)
Front:5.0MP (OV5648)
Flash:Support
Auto Focus:Support
Battery
Battery typeolymer battery
Battery content:3450mAh (removable battery)
Standby time:96 hours Talk time:8 hours
Positioning
GPS A-GPS
Operating system
Android 5.0
USB
Micro 5pin USB
Sensor
Gravity sensor / Proximity sensor / Light sensor / E-compass/ Hall sensor
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Very nice phone with low price
I have contact elephone but they can not confirm when will they launch the product
If there any coupon code please tell me. Thanks

More than 9mm thick.... This phone is not only a monster, it is a serious BRICK. And with that size having it in your pocket will be uncomfortable . Fail

PabxH said:
More than 9mm thick.... This phone is not only a monster, it is a serious BRICK. And with that size having it in your pocket will be uncomfortable . Fail
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The phone has a 3450 mAh battery, for that the thickness isn't that bad. The Xiaomi Mi4 is 8.9mm, and a HTC One M8 is 9.4mm. Sounds like you compare it with a bendable iPhone 6 Plus. THAT phone is uncomfortable in the pocket! And I don't care about a thickness a little over 9mm as long the batterylife is good. Rather that, then a thin 6mm phone that only last half a day and goes dead.

led
Does it have a led notification light? I cant find that anywhere. With the removable battery, fm radio, nfc and expendable memory finally a phone which has it all.

s7yler said:
The phone has a 3450 mAh battery, for that the thickness isn't that bad. The Xiaomi Mi4 is 8.9mm, and a HTC One M8 is 9.4mm. Sounds like you compare it with a bendable iPhone 6 Plus. THAT phone is uncomfortable in the pocket! And I don't care about a thickness a little over 9mm as long the batterylife is good. Rather that, then a thin 6mm phone that only last half a day and goes dead.
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Ok, youve got some solid points there, but for me the main positive point is that elephone is well known for the constant updates, and not forgetting that there are new versions of Android constantly. At least that is what I have heard and I believe, because most chinese smartphones these days come with impressive hardware specs but forget about software. That is the main pro I see here, forgetting the fact that it is a thick phone, I think it is a good option .

s7yler said:
The rear camera is 16MP with sony sensor, and the front camera is 8MP.
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Are you sure about sony sensor? I can't find any info about sensor in Elephone P7000.

New live picture provided by efox (P7000 left, P8000 right)
More info on http://s7yler.blogspot.com/2015/01/new-picture-of-elephone-p7000-and-p8000.html

aveenhuysen said:
Does it have a led notification light? I cant find that anywhere. With the removable battery, fm radio, nfc and expendable memory finally a phone which has it all.
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Can anyone answer?

matteo2 said:
Can anyone answer?
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Sorry but there is no info yet about it. But I guess we will soon know!

Elephone P7000 specifications
matteo2 said:
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Radio: yes
NFC: yes
more details...
w**.devicespecifications.com/en/model/f9d43199

robse.android said:
Radio: yes
NFC: yes
more details...
w**.devicespecifications.com/en/model/f9d43199
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Thanks... What about notification LED? It isn't say anything about it

deliriumxp said:
Are you sure about sony sensor? I can't find any info about sensor in Elephone P7000.
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There's a promo video of the p7000 on youtube.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xd30pWYfnR0
Assuming that the video is accurate, it should have a Sony sensor. Hope this is useful!

I actually find this one sounds pretty much perfect for me. Anyone see it out for presale with a shipping date?
The Elephone site under new products it says end of April
(sorry can't link it don't have enough posts)
I'm trying to decide whether I just live with the smaller screen of the P3000S or wait a few weeks for this.

New info today!
Elephone P7000 Pioneer Presales begin. $225 with discount code!
The icing on the cake is that Elephone are shipping the Elephone P7000 with Android 5.0 Lollipop out of the box. Three colours are available including grey, silver and gold.
Source: http://www.gizchina.com/2015/04/10/elephone-p7000-pioneer-presales-begin-225-with-discount-code/

sub
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Dev comunity?
Where will the back button and recent apps button be? Will it have a dev comunity and support? Other than this, this phone seems perfect

Im concerned that elephone lied about the camera sensor and of course wondering how much they are exaggerating the battery. If its all as it appears in the spec sheet I think this would be great
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What about ship to Italy from gizchina.com? How long does it take? Are there custom taxes?
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I just placed an order through the Manufacturer's own retail shop. I'd recommend you do the same.
And yes they have a strong Dev community and lots of future updates on all their phones, not just the
newly released !!
I will report back once I receive the phone.