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Htc Blackstone/ Htc Touch Hd Release Info

Anything to do with rumors, release dates or carriers picking up this beautiful device... Allegedly coming out by X-mas in Europe.
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Here's a new video about Touch HD
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=vide...ile-smartphone - THANKS TO SEETHER
SPECIFICATIONS
from pdadb.net but relayed by Huck33
Physical_Attributes
Dimensions
(width x height x depth): 62.8 x 115 x 12 millimetres
2.5 x 4.5 x 0.5 inches
Bounding;Volume: 86.7 cubecentimetres
Software_Environment
Embedded-Operating;System: Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional
Browse devices running this OS
Operating:System:Kernel: Windows CE 5.2
Microprocessor,+Chipset
CPU: Qualcomm MSM7201A
Browse devices based on MSM7201A
Width_of;Machine-Word: 32 bit
CPU:Clock: 528 MHz
CPU+Core: ARM1136EJ-S
Instruction-Set: ARMv6
Memory,_Storage-capacity
ROM_type: Flash EEPROM
ROM-capacity: 512 MiB, including 327.15MiB user-accessible non-volatile storage
RAM:type: DDR SDRAM
RAM-capacity: 288 MiB
Graphical-subsystem
Display_Type: color transflective TFT display
Display:Colorepth: 16 bit/pixel (65536 scales)
Display-Diagonal: 4 " (101 millimetres)
Display+Resolution: 480 x 800 (384000 pixels)
Dot;Pitch: 0.1083 millimetre/pixel
Audio;Subsystem
Audio:Channel(s): stereo sound
Analog/Digital Converter
(Recording): 16 bit nominal quantization
44100 Hz sampling frequency
Digital/Analog Converter
(Playing): 16 bit resolution
44100 Hz holding frequency
Microphone(s): mono sound
Loadspeaker(s): stereo sound
Audio+Output: 3.5mm plug
Cellular+Phone
Cellular+Networks: GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS900, UMTS2100
Cellularata_Links: CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA
Cellular;Antenna: Internal antenna
Call-Alert: 40 -chord melody (polyphonic)
Vibrating_Alert: Supported
Speakerphone;: Supported
Phone-Controller: Qualcomm MSM7201A (QDSP4000, QDSP5000)
Control-Peripherals
Positioning_Device: Touchscreen
Primary:Keyboard: Not supported
Directional_Pad: Not supported
Scroll_Wheel: Not supported
Interfaces
Expansion-Interfaces: microSD, microSDHC, TransFlash, SDIO
Supports High Capacity (SD 2.0/HC) memory cards with capacity of up to 32GB
USB: USB 2.0 client, Hi-Speed (480Mbit/s)
USB Series Mini-B (mini-USB) connector
Bluetooth;(802.15): Bluetooth 2.0 + Enhanced Data Rate, Internal antenna
Wireless:LAN/Wi-Fi;(802.11): IEEE 802.11b, IEEE 802.11g, 54 Mbit/s
Internal antenna
Infrared_Gate: Not supported
Multimedia;Broadcast
Analog_Radio: FM radio (87.5-108MHz) with RDS radio reciever
Proprietary headset as antenna
Digital;Media+Broadcast: Not supported
Satellite+Navigation
Built-in-GPS;module: Supported
GPS_Protocol: NMEA 0183
GPS+Antenna: Internal antenna
Complementary_GPS+Services: Assisted GPS, QuickGPS
Navigation_Chip(set): Qualcomm MSM7201A gpsOne
Built-in_Digital_Camera
Sensor+Type: CMOS sensor
Resolution: 2560 x1920 pixels (4.92MP)
Autofocus;(AF): Supported
Optical:Zoom: 1 x
Macro-Mode: Not supported
Built-in:Flash: Not supported
Camcorder: 320x240 pixels , 30frame/sec
Recordable-Image+Formats: JPG, BMP
Recordable-Video;Formats: 3GPP, MPEG4, MJPG
Built-in+Secondary;Digital+Camera
Sensor-Type: CMOS sensor
Resolution: 640 x480 pixels (0.31MP)
Camcorder: 320x240pixels
Recordable_Image+Formats: JPG
Recordable_Video;Formats: 3GPP, MPEG4
Power;Supply
Battery-Technology: Supported
Battery_Build: removable
Estimated:Battery-Life: 8 hours
Battery:Capacity: 1350 mAh
Estimated-Avarege;Current: 169 mA
Additionaletails
Built-in:accelerometer: Supported
Additional;Features:
* GPRS Class 10
* HTC TouchFLO 3D (HTC Manila)
* Bluetooth stereo audio profile (A2DP)
* Opera Mobile 9.5
" I took the liberties of moving our thread from general to the HD forum"

In Denmark the rumors go from HTC them self that it will come in november so all can get it as a early X-mas gift but dont know other countries :S Unforntunaly

The Swedish online store Webhallen has it listed with a release date of 2008-11-19.
http://www.webhallen.com/prod.php?id=91090

A few weeks ago, I pre-ordered my HD from http://www.clove.co.uk/
They are guessing a mid November ship date!

Have anyone heard if this will have multitouch?
Wouldnt make sense if it didnt have it.
Batterytime seams low as well.
Hope they will have some hardware upgrades before release.

If only I can pre order HD!!!!!!
In my country there is no pre order available and I´m sure it´s going to be more than 6 months to a store to have it and very expensive.....
Hope a good friend travel to Europe soon!

Does anybody know whether Sprint US is getting this device?
Thanks.

mike99 said:
Does anybody know whether Sprint US is getting this device?
Thanks.
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Don't know bro, but if they are I might just jump ship. I get horrible Hsdpa on att. Iphones tie up the bandwith. Even though Sprints broadband is slower I beleive it is less congested

This is my next phone. I hope this beauty comes out soon... (I'm in the US)

Am I reading the specs right?
Is the 3G support for GSM in USA missing from this phone?
I hope I'm wrong... I would like to get this one on ATT... really don't wanna go back to sprint.

Sprint should get it. They have gotten all the flagship HTCs so far so...

durgi said:
Am I reading the specs right?
Is the 3G support for GSM in USA missing from this phone?
I hope I'm wrong... I would like to get this one on ATT... really don't wanna go back to sprint.
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Right There is no 3g Support to the US in with the Euro HD version.
Much Like Same as the Touch pro and DIamond, we will have to wait for the U.S. version.
And like I said on Tito's thread. AT&T would not introduce this iphone killer and jeopardize its exclusivity with Apple. Apple is the most marketable phone in the US. Whatever they touch turns to gold it seems. Anyways, Sprint needs to reinvent itself and they seem to be doing this by acquiring the latest phones. Only problem is that they are notorious for handicapping the **** out of them.

Does anyone know if this will be realsed on Orange UK?

Any new or rumour about navigation software ?
Rgds,

Right now we know its GSM only cause in the picture it shows 3g simple on top right corner...i highly doubt we would even see this in the States...but i can hope...man only if it support America GSM highspeed

jtoyz2 said:
Right now we know its GSM only cause in the picture it shows 3g simple on top right corner...i highly doubt we would even see this in the States...but i can hope...man only if it support America GSM highspeed
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I know man I get that feeling too, I truly hate our American carriers.

plz santa, ive been good..... honest
i want it now!! cant wait... oooo

Camcorder: 320x240 pixels , 30frame/sec
This is the reason why i'm not going to buy the HTC T HD. This has absolutely nothing in common with HD.

PAPPL said:
Camcorder: 320x240 pixels , 30frame/sec
This is the reason why i'm not going to buy the HTC T HD. This has absolutely nothing in common with HD.
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is this a fair critisism? There are not many phones/pda's that have good "hd" video qualities, surely the hd is reference to its wide screen and resolution which is better than most other alternatives? i guess some of us will have to buy n try, like i did with my touch cruise

PAPPL said:
Camcorder: 320x240 pixels , 30frame/sec
This is the reason why i'm not going to buy the HTC T HD. This has absolutely nothing in common with HD.
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Yeah, but honestly who the hell uses an ppc as a camcorder. Except of course to film there friends doing stupid things. That is the last thing I look at when picking out a phone. no offense

Note 2 Vs Note 1

Thought I would repost this:
I'm using a code block to prevent my columns getting killed.
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Differences:
Note 2 Note 1 Comments
size: 151.1 x 80.5 x 9.4mm 146.9 x 83 x 9.7 mm 4.2mm longer
2.5mm narrower
.3 mm thinner
RAM 2G 1G 1G more
weight: 180g 178g 2 grams heavier
battery: 3100mah 2500 mah 24% larger battery
CPU 1.6 Ghz Quad A9 1.4 Ghz Dual A9
memory 12,32,64 GB 12,32 gig 64 gig option
NFC Yes No
BT 4.0 3.0
Screen: 5.55" 5.3"
Pixels: 1280x720 1280x800
aspect: 16:9 16:10
DPI 264.5 285 7.2% less dpi (calced)
Pxl Layout:RGB RGBG
os JB GB
Glass: Gorilla Glass 2 Gorilla Glass 1
Not. light Yes No
DAC Wolfram Yamaha YMU823
New things:
S-pen is different: thicker, rubberized tip.
'S-pen is removed' hardware switch for notifications
Same:
GPU Mali-400MP
No 1700 support
- Frank

Thanks Frank nice shart

NOTE 2
NOTE 2!!!!!!!!!!

If you watch videos during long train, subway rides regularly, playing video will even be a major leap, than a minor one.
Because of the Galaxy Note 1's 16:10 resolution, if you prefer video to be uncropped, you only used 4.77" of Galaxy Note 1's 5.3" screen when playing a 16:9 resolution video. Pretty much all TV shows and movies are encoded in this resolution today.
However, on the Galaxy Note 2, you will be using all 5.5" to play 16:9 video.
That is 0.73" gained diagonally when playing video. Very significant. But again, only if you don't like cropping to fill the Galaxy Note 1 screen. I personally hate cropping and have never cropped a video on my free will in my life so this is a big deal.
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This is for the International version right? I really hope all versions have 1700 mHz support. Or that T-mobile has its 1900 mHz network up by the time I get this phone (if I ever do).

The Note 2 also has a backlit sensor like the GS3 but unlike the first Note.
Given the similarities with the GS3, it seems likely the Note 2 comes with the Wolfson DAC but I haven't seen any confirmation of this.
I can count a total of 10 improvements (11 if you are interested in the 64GB model):
Edit: Supercurio has confirmed the Wolfson DAC which makes it the 11th hardware improvement on each Note 2.
1. Quadcore
2. More RAM
3. Bigger battery
4. Improved Spen
5. Gorilla Glass 2
6. NFC
7. RGB pixel arrangement
8. Notification light
9. Bluetooth 4
10 Backlit sensor
11 Wolfson DAC
Overall I think it's an impressive upgrade and I am not sure why some people were unhappy. I think there was some disappointment with the reduced resolution but it's just a 7% reduction in DPI and is more than compensated by the newer pixel arrangement. And we haven't even mentioned all the software goodies.

Strategist said:
The Note 2 also has a backlit sensor like the GS3 but unlike the first Note.
Given the similarities with the GS3, it seems likely the Note 2 comes with the Wolfson DAC but I haven't seen any confirmation of this.
I can count a total of 10 improvements (11 if you are interested in the 64GB model):
1. Quadcore
2. More RAM
3. Bigger battery
4. Improved Spen
5. Gorilla Glass 2
6. NFC
7. RGB pixel arrangement
8. Notification light
9. Bluetooth 4
10 Backlit sensor
Overall I think it's an impressive upgrade and I am not sure why some people were unhappy. I think there was some disappointment with the reduced resolution but it's just a 7% reduction in DPI and is more than compensated by the newer pixel arrangement. And we haven't even mentioned all the software goodies.
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Sweet. I wasn't aware of the RGB pixel arrangement until you mentioned it. Everyone just assumed pentile from day 1 and I hadn't heard it was different since. Thanks for pointing that out. Now I want the Galaxy Note 2 even more.
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Lucidmike said:
Sweet. I wasn't aware of the RGB pixel arrangement until you mentioned it. Everyone just assumed pentile from day 1 and I hadn't heard it was different since. Thanks for pointing that out. Now I want the Galaxy Note 2 even more.
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It's not rgb, but it's not pentile. It's been all over the blogs,
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May2012 said:
I hope Samsung will pack the Universe Observe 2 with a better battery pack than the Observe 1. Having a quad core processor in addition to a bigger screen (although lower resolution), users of the Universe Observe 2 will surely grumble about battery pack.
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The Note 2 has 3100mAH battery vs. 2500 for the original.
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please US carriers...dont jack this one up for me like u did with the s3...quadcore woohooo DOH!.....from my t999 that barely outscores my t989 on quads

eallan said:
It's not rgb, but it's not pentile. It's been all over the blogs,
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I have seen it called RGB although an unusual variant. After all, there is a red, green and blue sub-pixel in every pixel.
Incidentally Supercurio has confirmed the Wolfson DAC and I have edited my post to add an 11th improvement.

Note 2 has Radio FM??? in samsung specification web, not show about it

International version dont have...
~RR

xiskillo said:
Note 2 has Radio FM??? in samsung specification web, not show about it
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It hs radio with RDS,
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_ii_n7100-4854.php

Strategist said:
I have seen it called RGB although an unusual variant. After all, there is a red, green and blue sub-pixel in every pixel.
Incidentally Supercurio has confirmed the Wolfson DAC and I have edited my post to add an 11th improvement.
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Thanks - updated 1st post.
There's no reason not to call it RGB since each white pixel has an R, G, and B subpixel.
- Frank

Strategist said:
Incidentally Supercurio has confirmed the Wolfson DAC and I have edited my post to add an 11th improvement.
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Source?

vitalij92 said:
Source?
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This tweet.

theUsualSuspexx said:
please US carriers...dont jack this one up for me like u did with the s3...quadcore woohooo DOH!.....from my t999 that barely outscores my t989 on quads
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US has the same processor as the international. finally!

The note really isn't that big , and the note 2 is suppose to be easier to hold
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Xperia Z3 Amazing Concept

Here I present Xperia Z3 Amazing Concept.
I worked for hours to prepare this and i am very bad at paintings
Xperia Z3 Awesome Concept Specs :
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DISPLAY IPS capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Type Triluminos Display
WhiteMagic Display
Sony Live Color LED
X-Reality PRO
Size 1080 x 1920 pixels, 5.2 inches (~424 ppi pixel density)
Quality Contrast ratio: 1595 (nominal), 1.1263 (sunlight)
Multitouch Yes, up to 10 fingers
Dimensions139 x 70 x 8 mm
Weight 143 g
- IP68 certified - dust and water proof
- Water resistant over 1.5 Meter and 1 Hour
Protection Scratch Proof glass
PVD Coating
Speakers S-Force Pro Stereo Speakers
MicroSD Up to 128 GB
Internal 32 GB, 3 GB RAM
GPRS Up to 107 kbps
EDGE Up to 296 kbps
Speed HSDPA, 42 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.8 Mbps; LTE, Cat6, 100 Mbps UL, 300 Mbps DL
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth Yes, v4.1 with A2DP
NFC Yes
USB Yes, microUSB V3.0 (MHL 3), USB On-the-go, USB Host
CAMERA Primary 20.7 MP, 5248 х 3936 pixels 16:9, AutoFocus, LED Flash
Features 1/2.3'' sensor size, Carl Zeiss optics
Video Yes, [email protected](Practically Unlimited), [email protected], [email protected], video stabilization, HDR
Secondary Yes, 3 MP, [email protected]
FEATURES OSAndroid OS, v4.4.3 (KitKat)
Chipset Qualcomm Snapdragon 805
CPU Quad-core 2.5 GHz Krait 450
GPU Adreno 420
Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer, Temprature Sensor
Radio FM radio with RDS
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support and GLONASS
- ANT+ support
- TV-out (via MHL 3 A/V link)
- New Improved Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
- Xvid/MP4/H.263/H.264/H.265 player
BATTERY Non-removable Li-Ion 3500 mAh Li-poly battery with Supercharge Tech
Stand-by Up to 1000 h (2G) / Up to 1080 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 19 h (2G) / Up to 24 h (3G)
Music play Up to 180 h

Make it 5.5 inches and you might have a battery bigger than 3200mAh, but I like the design
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What about the booloader? Do they come unlocked stock?
:good:

coolmingli said:
What about the booloader? Do they come unlocked stock?
:good:
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This is just a concept
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ggvggfgf
Hhhh mmmm, I liked what the top and bottom edges discounted, it was very similar to the Xperia that I have now, the ZL
Speaking of specs, I doubt very much, MUCH SONY will enter a Snapdragon 805 to maintain the same camera specifications or display, it seems to me ridiculous that supposedly SONY have thought at some point go from 801 to 805 SnapDragon just for that incorporate the phone function up to 10 fingers on the screen, it's just ridiculous, not worth at all.

fcvwg said:
Hhhh mmmm, I liked what the top and bottom edges discounted, it was very similar to the Xperia that I have now, the ZL
Speaking of specs, I doubt very much, MUCH SONY will enter a Snapdragon 805 to maintain the same camera specifications or display, it seems to me ridiculous that supposedly SONY have thought at some point go from 801 to 805 SnapDragon just for that incorporate the phone function up to 10 fingers on the screen, it's just ridiculous, not worth at all.
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Lol
Upto 10 fingers on screen has nothing to do with 805
Its just normal in every sony device.
Even xperia z has 10 finger touch
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gfgf
kumar abhishek said:
Lol
Upto 10 fingers on screen has nothing to do with 805
Its just normal in every sony device.
Even xperia z has 10 finger touch
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Well, I did not know, I thought it was something new, however we did not get out of the main idea of ​​my comment, what is ridiculous SONY decide to spend the Snapdragon 801 Z2 to 805 for the Z3 to to ultimately maintain virtually the same features, if you did not know, and according to the website of Qualcomm, the difference between the 800 and the 801 is "little" significant, but enough to incorporate the capability of recording video in 4K, merely following this logic, next Z3 should have something very new or more powerful (like the camera, such des go from 20.7 to 25 MP) for justifying the memory, and it is shown that as Qualcomm, the difference between the 801 and 805 it is really significant for the 800 to 801.

fcvwg said:
Well, I did not know, I thought it was something new, however we did not get out of the main idea of ​​my comment, what is ridiculous SONY decide to spend the Snapdragon 801 Z2 to 805 for the Z3 to to ultimately maintain virtually the same features, if you did not know, and according to the website of Qualcomm, the difference between the 800 and the 801 is "little" significant, but enough to incorporate the capability of recording video in 4K, merely following this logic, next Z3 should have something very new or more powerful (like the camera, such des go from 20.7 to 25 MP) for justifying the memory, and it is shown that as Qualcomm, the difference between the 801 and 805 it is really significant for the 800 to 801.
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Lets see
Though Acoording to my concept camera is definitely much better with ever larger sensor OIS optical zoom and xenon flash
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To me a good concept is one that follow all the leaks and look authentic that try to predict how the next device will look like, in other words: increase the thickness to 9mm, make the top and bottom bezels even in size, move the camera to a bit above the center of the back (it is pretty much impossible to place a huge camera sensor like z2's on top with ultra thin top bezel), replace the xenon flash with dual LED, update the sides with the leaked right and left metal frame, remove the docking port cause according to the frames sony is going for waterproofed usb port and wireless charging so also make the usb port exposed, just look at the leaked frames. the base is a good start but try to make it look authentic and not like cut and paste and not wishful thinking spec.
if you do what i wrote your concept will look a lot better.

kumar abhishek said:
Here I present Xperia Z3 Amazing Concept.
I worked for hours to prepare this and i am very bad at paintings
Xperia Z3 Awesome Concept Specs :
DISPLAY IPS capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Type Triluminos Display
WhiteMagic Display
Sony Live Color LED
X-Reality PRO
Size 1080 x 1920 pixels, 5.2 inches (~424 ppi pixel density)
Quality Contrast ratio: 1595 (nominal), 1.1263 (sunlight)
Multitouch Yes, up to 10 fingers
Dimensions139 x 70 x 8 mm
Weight 143 g
- IP68 certified - dust and water proof
- Water resistant over 1.5 Meter and 1 Hour
Protection Scratch Proof glass
PVD Coating
Speakers S-Force Pro Stereo Speakers
MicroSD Up to 128 GB
Internal 32 GB, 3 GB RAM
GPRS Up to 107 kbps
EDGE Up to 296 kbps
Speed HSDPA, 42 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.8 Mbps; LTE, Cat6, 100 Mbps UL, 300 Mbps DL
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth Yes, v4.1 with A2DP
NFC Yes
USB Yes, microUSB V3.0 (MHL 3), USB On-the-go, USB Host
CAMERA Primary 20.7 MP, 5248 х 3936 pixels 16:9, AutoFocus, XENON Flash
Features 1/2.2'' sensor size, 3X Optical Zoom, OIS
Video Yes, [email protected](Practically Unlimited), [email protected], [email protected], video stabilization, HDR
Secondary Yes, 3 MP, [email protected]
FEATURES OSAndroid OS, v4.4.3 (KitKat)
Chipset Qualcomm Snapdragon 805
CPU Quad-core 2.5 GHz Krait 450
GPU Adreno 420
Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer, Temprature Sensor
Radio FM radio with RDS
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support and GLONASS
- ANT+ support
- TV-out (via MHL 3 A/V link)
- New Improved Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
- Xvid/MP4/H.263/H.264/H.265 player
BATTERY Non-removable Li-Ion 3500 mAh Li-poly battery with Supercharge Tech
Stand-by Up to 1000 h (2G) / Up to 1080 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 19 h (2G) / Up to 24 h (3G)
Music play Up to 180 h
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i think it will drop the omni-balance design for new flagship beacuse Sony announced they will go for new design for 2014 H2 flagship
also no FHD it will be QHD this time as rivals have already thrown QHD screens in market.

amirprog said:
To me a good concept is one that follow all the leaks and look authentic that try to predict how the next device will look like, in other words: increase the thickness to 9mm, make the top and bottom bezels even in size, move the camera to a bit above the center of the back (it is pretty much impossible to place a huge camera sensor like z2's on top with ultra thin top bezel), replace the xenon flash with dual LED, update the sides with the leaked right and left metal frame, remove the docking port cause according to the frames sony is going for waterproofed usb port and wireless charging so also make the usb port exposed, just look at the leaked frames. the base is a good start but try to make it look authentic and not like cut and paste and not wishful thinking spec.
if you do what i wrote your concept will look a lot better.
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I can change the specs.
I think only camera part is where i added too much unrealistic specs
About image i am very poor at editing stuff.
It took me hours to make them image and you can still find many errors in it [emoji17]
Edit: Made some changes in camera specs as well as attached a more refined pic with led flash and waterproofed usb port btw the sides are pvc coated in black the leaked frame seems white version
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One plus one vs one plus 2 what do you think who is real flagship killer

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ONE PLUS ONE:
GSM/HSPA/LTE
BODY Dimensions 152.9 x 75.9 x 8.9 mm (6.02 x 2.99 x 0.35 in)
Weight 162 g (5.71 oz)
SIM Micro-SIM
DISPLAY Type LTPS LCD capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 5.5 inches (~71.9% screen-to-body ratio)
Resolution 1080 x 1920 pixels (~401 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes, up to 10 fingers
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass 3
- CyanogenMod 12 (after SW update)
PLATFORM OS Android OS, v4.4.2 (KitKat), upgradable to v5.0.2 (Lollipop)
Chipset Qualcomm MSM8974AC Snapdragon 801
CPU Quad-core 2.5 GHz Krait 400
GPU Adreno 330
MEMORY Card slot No
Internal 16/64 GB, 3 GB RAM
CAMERA Primary 13 MP, 4128 x 3096 pixels, autofocus, dual-LED flash, check quality
Features Geo-tagging, touch focus, face detection, panorama, HDR
Video [email protected], 2160p(DCI)@24fps, [email protected], [email protected],
HDR, stereo sound rec., check quality
Secondary 5 MP, [email protected]
SOUND Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes, dual mono speakers
3.5mm jack Yes
COMMS WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, hotspot
Bluetooth v4.1, A2DP
GPS Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS
NFC Yes
Radio No
USB microUSB v2.0, USB Host
FEATURES Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Messaging SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, IM, Push Email
Browser HTML5
Java No
- ANT+ support
- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
- MP4/H.264/WMV player
- MP3/eAAC+/WMA/WAV/FLAC player
- Document viewer
- Photo viewer/editor
- Voice memo/dial/commands
BATTERY Non-removable Li-Po 3100 mAh battery
Stand-by
Talk time
MISC Colors Silk White, Sandstone Black
SAR US 0.62 W/kg (head) 0.75 W/kg (body)
Price group 5/10
TESTS Performance Basemark OS II: 1196 / Basemark OS II 2.0: 1230
Basemark X: 13129
Display Contrast ratio: 799 (nominal), 1.961 (sunlight)
Camera Photo / Video
Loudspeaker Voice 74dB / Noise 73dB / Ring 80dB
Audio quality Noise -94.1dB / Crosstalk -94.3dB
ONE PLUS TWO
GSM/HSPA/LTE
BODY Dimensions 151.8 x 74.9 x 9.9 mm (5.98 x 2.95 x 0.39 in)
Weight 175 g (6.17 oz)
SIM Dual SIM (Nano-SIM, dual stand-by)
- Fingerprint sensor
DISPLAY Type LTPS LCD capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 5.5 inches (~73.3% screen-to-body ratio)
Resolution 1080 x 1920 pixels (~401 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass 4
- Oxygen UI
PLATFORM OS Android OS, v5.1 (Lollipop)
Chipset Qualcomm MSM8994 Snapdragon 810
CPU Quad-core Cortex-A53 & Quad-core 1.8 GHz Cortex-A57
GPU Adreno 430
MEMORY Card slot No
Internal 16 GB, 3 GB RAM
64 GB, 4 GB RAM
CAMERA Primary 13 MP, 4128 x 3096 pixels, optical image stabilization, laser autofocus,
dual-LED flash
Features Geo-tagging, touch focus, face detection, panorama, HDR
Video [email protected], 2160p(DCI)@24fps, [email protected], [email protected]
Secondary 5 MP, [email protected]
SOUND Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
COMMS WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, hotspot
Bluetooth v4.1, A2DP
GPS Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS
Radio To be confirmed
USB microUSB v2.0, Type-C reversible connector
FEATURES Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Messaging SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, IM, Push Email
Browser HTML5
Java No
- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
- DivX/Xvid/MP4/H.265 player
- MP3/eAAC+/WMA/WAV/FLAC player
- Document viewer
- Photo/video editor
BATTERY Non-removable Li-Po 3300 mAh battery
Stand-by
Talk time
MISC Colors Sandstone Black
SAR EU 0.43 W/kg
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Great specs and price, but lack of NFC and quick charge support doesnt make this device any flagship killer

Well, moto x style or pure is an better otion for a flagship killer

It got minor improvement over op1 nothing special.
-sd810: a lot of negative things, so sd801 still good.
-4gb ram: its nice to have but I always got 700mb free.
-finger scan: again its nice, but I always swipe to unlock.. much quicker.
-USB type c: reversible good but still slow USB 2.0
-Thicker and heavier.
-No NFC, quick charge, wireless charge, no OTG.
-No USF 2.0 still using eMMC as op1.
I think its a good phone for first time buyer.

droidnext said:
It got minor improvement over op1 nothing special.
-sd810: a lot of negative things, so sd801 still good.
-4gb ram: its nice to have but I always got 700mb free.
-finger scan: again its nice, but I always swipe to unlock.. much quicker.
-USB type c: reversible good but still slow USB 2.0
-Thicker and heavier.
-No NFC, quick charge, wireless charge, no OTG.
-No USF 2.0 still using eMMC as op1.
I think its a good phone for first time buyer.
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Yes i don't think 1+2 is real flagship killer
What this mean IF YOU DON'T HAVE
NO OTG
NO FAST CHARGE
NO NFC
COPY CAT DESIGN OF SAMSUNG PHONES LIKE GALAXY XYZ SERIES EVEN OPO IS BETTER IN DESIGN THAN OPT
NO QHD SCREEN
MONO SPEAKERS
NO REMARKABLE CAMERA
IT WILL NOT EVEN MAINTAIN ITS CROWN OF FLAGSHIP KILLER FOR 2015 (THEY SAID ITS FK 2016)
IF THEY WILL ADD ABOVE FEATURES IT WILL BE REAL FLAGSHIP KILLER
BUT ANY WAY THROUGH XDA DEVELOPERS I THINK WE WILL GET SOME BENEFIT TO OPO
WHEN THERE WAS DEVELOPMENT OF OPT
MAINLY KERNEL VERSION I. E 3.10
HURREY
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No flagship killer... not even in the discussion.
In fact, their slogan, "Never Settle," should be taken down/ replaced.
Still a great value, but missing the mark in many ways. I think they lost their way with the fingerprint scanner. To keep the price low, that took away from other more desirable/ useful features (NFC, Wireless Charging, QHD, higher pxl density camera, significant battery life).
This might be built more for the international market more than the US market. The Moto X Style/pure looks like the better choice for the US market.

Why isn't both an option? It's a legitimate answer.

CafeKampuchia said:
Why isn't both an option? It's a legitimate answer.
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both could be an option, but both is not an option at the same time.
What I mean to say is that, the OnePlus One itself is a flagship killer for 2014. True. For 2015 it does hold up on its own (though you have devices such as LG G3, the OPPO Find 7, and I think xiaomi mi note, if you can get it without the bloated price)
But if you take 2015 phones as a basis, the OnePlus Two isn't a flagship killer, because either it never was, or got dethroned by Motorola Moto X Style.

im more concerned about their refusal to scrap the completely ridiculous invite system, after the amount of grief they got last time and the amount of people put off from buying the phone as they were not prepared to wait months they've gone and done it again and come out with nonsense like plenty more invites, well they weren't bankng of getting over 2 million requests so they'll never be able to accommodate all those people, ok some might be multiple email signups but i estimate at least 65% are genuine,
My OPO still running perfectly but at this stage i need a new phone, id love an S6 Edge but poor battery life and ridiculous price tag has put me off, but certainly i wont be waiting months for a 1 + 2 invite so ill be searching elsewhere, maybe Huawei or something.

A.VOID said:
No flagship killer... not even in the discussion.
In fact, their slogan, "Never Settle," should be taken down/ replaced.
Still a great value, but missing the mark in many ways. I think they lost their way with the fingerprint scanner. To keep the price low, that took away from other more desirable/ useful features (NFC, Wireless Charging, QHD, higher pxl density camera, significant battery life).
This might be built more for the international market more than the US market. The Moto X Style/pure looks like the better choice for the US market.
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You're right, not a flagship killer at all... Which makes sense considering it's half the price or less than the premium flagships out there. Just a good buzz word.
As for the Moto phones being good for the US market: I decided on the OPO over the previous Moto/Nexus 6 phones because of build quality problems. I know the OPO had its own issues, but I'd probably trust more in the early releases of the OP2 than these new Motos.
As for right now, I just replaced the LCD and housing on my OPO. I'm in no rush for the OP2, but wouldn't be against it if my invite gets sent out in the next couple months.

Neither ever was a flagship killer lol. These devices are for low budget people. 1+1 always had crappy screen. That yellowish urine at the bottom was hardware issue. While the 1+2 is biggest joke of the year. Whenever I see it get compared to real flagship devies I keep laughing.
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ambervals6 said:
Neither ever was a flagship killer lol. These devices are for low budget people. 1 1 always had crappy screen. That yellowish urine at the bottom was hardware issue. While the 1 2 is biggest joke of the year. Whenever I see it get compared to real flagship devies I keep laughing.
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Low budget peoples means
My opo is 6 month old no problem at all in software or hardware
Peoples who are complaining yellow tint and touch issues got faulty handsets
PEOPLES WITH OPO=LOW BUDGET PEOPLES
Its not true its because of thinking
YES IT IS TRUE THAT QUALITY OF HARDWARE IS NOT TOPNOTCH LIKE ON SONY/SAMSUNG BUT ITS NOT SO LOW QUALITY
but it has software quality is topnotch
and though we purchased most Premium devices like sgs6 iphone they don't have removable battery its going to die in few years about 5-6
So you have to change your device
so why to pay 50% more bucks when OPO will reach its limits like Premium devices

Open development vs close development software.

I jumped the gun and ordered a oneplus 2. After using it for a few weeks, I went back to my oneplus one. So much better. On the oneplus oneone, software is more stable and smoother, battery life is MUCH better, vibration motor is better, speaker is louder, phone is lighter, edges of phone aren't slippery, phone is much more comfortable to hold, back is flatter so doesn't wobble around on tables when typing, stereo speakers, no useless fingerprint scanner, faster charging, no notification switch that toggles in your pocket. The oneplus one really is the 2015 flagship killer it was advertised to be, but boy does the 2 disappoint.

Well I got a OP2 invite yesterday..
And after doing my normal xda thread reading....
I opted to buy the 64gb OPO and let the OP2 invite expire...
Of course my 64gb bamboo moto x Pure had a small part in my decision

I still think oneplus one really a value proposition . First is its price and second is its features. Although OPT is good enough to beat OPO but later is not a flagship killer mainly because OPT does not have NFC plus some software related issues , which OP need to rectify to be called as flagship killer.

Oneplus one is a beautiful device with CM ....myself used Nexus 4 ,5 for 4 years...bought OPO 1 month back...
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Oneplus One FTW

Op2, since its the latest and worth the price but opo was the real flagship killer before.
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one plus one inmortal flagship killer

[REVIEW] Xiaomi Redmi Note 2

Chinese manufacturer Xiaomi (one of main players currently) has just presented an update for his Redmi Note model, with a few novelties and the goal of being one of most popular smartphones for the season.
Packaging and design
The box is “iPhone-like” in paperboard color, something I've liked since it looks a little bit more Eco-friendly, and at the same time it's simple and elegant.
In the box we find the terminal properly wrapped, a charger (with US plug, not the European one), a good quality USB cable, the warranty and instructions both in Chinese.
As usual lately, no signs of the earphones, we'll have to get used :-/
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The design of this Redmi Note 2 is very simple and clean, on the front we have the secondary camera on the top, then the 5,5” FullHD screen with just the 3 touch buttons typical from Android.
On the right side we have the volume and lock buttons, both seem made in good quality
Looking at the bottom, the micro-USB plug and the microphone. We have the jack 3.5 plug for the (non included) earphones and the secondary microphone for noise cancellation on the top.
So we have a completely free left side, something very common nowadays, due to the big size of the devices, the buttons are grouped in just one of the sides.
Once we flip it, the main 13Mpx camera (we have no information about who is manufacturing it), the LED (not dual) flash and the speaker on the bottom with the XIAOMI logo.
When we remove the back cover, we found the removable battery, the slots for the 2 micro-SIM and another one for the microSD expansion card.
This model is available in 5 colors: white, blue, yellow, pink and mint green.
Hardware
The technical specifications are quite good. Just to start, it's equipped with the new X10 octa core from Mediatek, so 64-bits and 2.0Ghz speed. The 2GB of RAM memory put it on the middle of the table, since most of new phones already come with 3GB or 4GB if we talk about flagship devices.
To complete the game, we find a GPU Power VR G6200 that will put all the sauce for videos and games to play smoothly.
Model* Xiaomi Redmi Note 2
SO*MIUI 7 (Android 5.0)
Processor*X10 64bits, octa core @ 2,0Ghz
GPU Power VR G6200
RAM*2GB
Screen*5,5” IPS LCD FullHD 1920x1080,*with*403ppi and 16M colors
Storage*16GB + microSD
Cameras*Main 13Mpx with flash LED; front 5Mpx; video 1080p @ 30 fps
Connectivity*Wi-Fi 2.4GHz b/g/n with Wi-Fi Direct support // BT 4.0*// MicroUSB (High Speed USB)
Dual SIM*GSM: 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 Mhz ; 3G WCDMA: 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 Mhz; 4G FDD-LTE: B1(2100MHz) / B3(1800MHz) / B7(2600MHz)
Other*G-sensor, P-Sensor, L-Sensor, Wifi, GPS, OTG< Multi-touch, Dual SIM, Schedule Power on/off, E-compass, Hall IC, Gravity Sensor, Proximity Sensor, Light Sensor, Magnetic Sensor, Gyroscope Sensor
Battery*3060mAh removable
Dimensions*152 x 76 x 8.25 mm
Weight*160gr with the battery
Colors White, blue, yellow, pink, mint green
Price*From $169.99 with current promos
Software and Multimedia
The Redmi Note 2 comes with the almost last version of Android 5.0 (Lollipop), however we won't appreciate it since the customization layer is very “intrusive”. We are talking about the very well known MIUI, which brings a iOS flavor that either you love or you hate normally.
MIUI is probably one of most known Android ROMs and doubtless one of the strengths that helped Xiaomi growth as much and sell their handhelds outside of China.
In this case, the Redmi Note has the v7 of MIUI and as expected it runs very well, fluid and smooth even when playing 2K videos. However, in my opinion is a little bit silly to play 2K videos in a 5,5” screen, even a very good one like this case. It will be very interesting if we are using a remote screen, and we are broadcasting to a big screen, but (and again is just my opinion) with a smartphone, I guess FullHD is already a great resolution.
On the same way, games (like Asphalt 8) run perfectly thanks to both the powerful chip X10 and the GPU Power VR G6200.
Camera
Nowadays it's very common to find 13 Mpx cameras on almost every smartphone. If we compare this one to other Chinese phones, we can say the results are very good.
It's not the main point in this phone, although as said before it achieves quite good results, specially with daylight (very good pictures!). But when the light is reduced, for example taking night pictures there is a lot of noise on the images.
When we move to video recording, FullHD at 30fps offer very good quality.
Battery
The trend is now to go around 3000mAh, and Xiaomi hits that mark in this case.
Of course the duration will depend on how much we use the smartphone and for what. Taking into consideration that on the first days we will be trying everything and the use will be much more exhaustive that the normal one.
However we will reach the end of the day without any difficulty, using data, camera,...
Conclusions
We have on our hands a very good terminal. We can notice it on the finishing and the overall user experience, thanks also to the good integration and performance of MIUI 7.
I don't like to open the box and don't find the earphones, but it becomes the rule now, so I will finally have to get used to that. I know manufacturers try to cut cost wherever they can, and they guess we all have good earphones already... but if you're presenting a device with an impressive screen and powerful enough to play and enjoy the multimedia part, why don't you complete it with a good earphones?
I'm sure this is a problem that we don't have when buying an iPhone or last Galaxy S or LG or any other first brand smartphone, since they have margin enough to pay quality extras.
This model (Redmi Note 2) is on the medium range so we have to consider it like that. If we are looking for a top class (Chinese) device we will have to choose the Xiaomi Mi5 (when available) or Xiaomi Note Pro and there the price will be already above 500€.
Are you looking a good smartphone for less than 200€? don't think more, you have to look and consider this one. It's not only because of the specifications on the paper, it's also (or mainly) because step by step the Chinese manufacturers are differentiating among them.
Xiaomi and Meizu have proved (or are proving yet) to be above the other Chinese companies... so if you have similar prices, ask for quality!
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Thx for the review

has or has not Gorilla Glass
has or has not Gorilla Glass

Phych said:
has or has not Gorilla Glass
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The glass is so called "Dragontail" which is actually very scratch resistance.
My problem so far with RN2 is the network location service, they return simplified chinese text to apps, also the international ROM is very buggy.

I got one question: Is a screenprotector already applied from the manufacture?
Btw I noticed you saying there are the 5 colours you mentioned but actualy there is also the colour gray (dark) (the one picture in your review has also a gray backcover)

Yes, screen protector is already applied but it covers front camera... So you have to change it

My device did not have a screen protector pre-applied.

Very strage