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What will realistic Project Ara phone be and what price will you pay?

Hello,
With this being talked about now, what will your realistic Project Ara phone have?
Mine is pretty simple:
Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 2.3GHz
Adreno 330 450MHz
2 GB RAM
3.8 V 2300 mAh, 8 Wh, Qi wireless charging
Slide out QWERTY physical keyboard
4.96 in (126 mm) diagonal IPS LCD with Corning Gorilla Glass 3 (1080×1920 px (444 ppi))
8 MP with OIS, f/2.4 aperture and Xenon flash.
1.3 MP Front Camera
3.5 mm TRRS
GPS
Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
Bluetooth 4.0
NFC
Infrared port
Every damn radio band so I can use GSM/3G/4G all over the world
Now that I look at it, this phone sounds pretty familiar.........
My price range would be $400 - $500
What about you?
Also, lets keep it realistic, real (no transformer from phone to PC or fantasy crap) and considering phone/budget of each person. Basically what Project Ara is really about and can offer.
Im editing the title again: Please keep it realistic Who knows what people are reading this thread. If we post things like 8K resolution screen phones for 200 bucks, we cannot keep this realist.c

I'd be willing to pay up to $600 for a device with 8GB of internal storage with an external storage option, a 21Mp camera with OIS and various low light optimizations, It needs to be at least dual core running at no less than 1.8 Ghz, it needs 2Gb of RAM, an adreno 330 GPU, a 4.7in screen with a resolution that's above 720p, wireless charging, ALL the radios!, wifi 80211ac, a front camera that has 720p recording and is at least 1.3mp, extremely tunable audio quality, and a slightly curved screen.

Sparx639 said:
I'd be willing to pay up to $600 for a device with 8GB of internal storage with an external storage option, a 21Mp camera with OIS and various low light optimizations, It needs to be at least dual core running at no less than 1.8 Ghz, it needs 2Gb of RAM, an adreno 330 GPU, a 4.7in screen with a resolution that's above 720p, wireless charging, ALL the radios!, wifi 80211ac, a front camera that has 720p recording and is at least 1.3mp, extremely tunable audio quality, and a slightly curved screen.
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Just asking for a good DAC and a curved screen will shoot it up more than $600
I based off mine a existing phone and depending on that raised the price compared to it...

For me:
Top-line specs (cpu ram etc...)
But the extra stuff i would buy into it is a good DAC (digital analog converter). I like to hear quality music.
And a best of the bests camera with a big and fast sensor (maybe foveon x3), 3diagonal OIS, led+xenon AND full manual control in it's software. I want to control shutter speed, ISO, explosure, OIS on/off, timer, intervalometer, HDR, brust mode, pixel oversampling and RAW capturing.
I don't want to take photos like on DSLR, but these things are good to have in the creative process :--)

riahc3 said:
Hello,
With this being talked about now, what will your dream phone have?
Mine is pretty simple:
Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 2.3GHz
Adreno 330 450MHz
2 GB RAM
3.8 V 2300 mAh, 8 Wh, Qi wireless charging
Slide out QWERTY physical keyboard
4.96 in (126 mm) diagonal IPS LCD with Corning Gorilla Glass 3 (1080×1920 px (444 ppi))
8 MP with OIS, f/2.4 aperture and Xenon flash.
1.3 MP Front Camera
3.5 mm TRRS
GPS
Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
Bluetooth 4.0
NFC
Infrared port
Every damn radio band so I can use GSM/3G/4G all over the world
Now that I look at it, this phone sounds pretty familiar.........
My price range would be $400 - $500
What about you?
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By the time ARA is available this will be a bit old
But I would take high specs with 3000 or 4000 mAh so it would last more than a day

exadeci said:
By the time ARA is available this will be a bit old
But I would take high specs with 3000 or 4000 mAh so it would last more than a day
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Why do I want more? Make no sense.

riahc3 said:
Why do I want more? Make no sense.
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Because my 2100mhA battery on my nexus 4 only last the day on usual use but can be drained by half on my 1h commute if I stream music while playing games

An HTC One with modules and i'll be happy

exadeci said:
Because my 2100mhA battery on my nexus 4 only last the day on usual use but can be drained by half on my 1h commute if I stream music while playing games
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Thats why you do and that is not normal usage (internet, music and games)
The phone I do (PHONE) does WAY more than any phone I (or most people) can ask for.

Really i want there to be clean choices.
saying you want a snapdragon 800 in it or a 21 megapixel camera wont help you if that phone comes out in a year or so.
An option to get it pre-assembled.
A rating system for blocks, if you replace a block, ask you to rate/comment on it after a week or so.
More then one company making them.
Multiprocessor support. Get your Snapdragon and your Exynos. More power. Maybe limit that to just more then one copy of the same chip though, i do not see how it would work otherwise.
A separate block that contains the headphone jack, usb, ... so that it can be replaced without replacing the more expensive components.
A small internal battery, so that you can exchange the battery block without rebooting.
Different body shapes. Tablet--Phablet--Phone--Phone with keyboard
An E ink screen option.
Price, depends on components.
An E ink phablet-phone is something else then a DUAL-Tegra with 3 extra battery blocks, 4k screen and no radios except wifi.

- separate DAC/amp (i imagine these will be built into the SoC so hopefully OEMs can make modules that override this)
- 4000mAh battery
- landscape QWERTY
- probably a screen no bigger than 4.7" given that an overly large screen would make using the keyboard untenable
- camera module with a decent sensor size & xenon flash
- multiple SD/microSD card support
- projector
i don't imagine you could have all of these modules on the phone at once though

I'd love to have a phone with a 4.3" 720p AMOLED screen and a Pureview Camera with a hardware shutter key.
CPU would be an Intel Atom paired with 2 GB RAM and 32 GB storage. Also, dual-boot with Android and WP (or whatever OS I want to put on there)
Oh, and the price? $500, maybe? (modular, of course)

I should have added that please make the phone and price realistic; Some of you are saying technologies such as PureView cameras when that is a trademark by Nokia and Nokia would NEVER open source it (with reason and I agree with them)

Independent vendors such as nikon, canon, etc.. might produce modules and provide propietary bins.. nokia as motorola's competitor would probably not agreed. W/o seeing the mdk, I can only guess companies [and a few gifted individuals] would have the resources to develop, nano-cize and produce said modules.. or will motorola be taking a you design.. we produce line.. Future looks exciting either way.. I'd pay $600 for full phone [base + enough modules to make it standard] but in just [visually] glancing the [proposed] module spacing, we'd be lucky to get battery you suggested.. Doesn't seem room unless thickness added [or two module spaces used].. which is/are a bleh idea(s) imo.
Rob
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i wish tis phone

ultimate phone
I'll take the specs from first post.solar charging screen.but I want one module
To include all physical buttons only,just because!

riahc3 said:
Hello,
With this being talked about now, what will your dream phone have?
Mine is pretty simple:
Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 2.3GHz
Adreno 330 450MHz
2 GB RAM
3.8 V 2300 mAh, 8 Wh, Qi wireless charging
Slide out QWERTY physical keyboard
4.96 in (126 mm) diagonal IPS LCD with Corning Gorilla Glass 3 (1080×1920 px (444 ppi))
8 MP with OIS, f/2.4 aperture and Xenon flash.
1.3 MP Front Camera
3.5 mm TRRS
GPS
Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
Bluetooth 4.0
NFC
Infrared port
Every damn radio band so I can use GSM/3G/4G all over the world
Now that I look at it, this phone sounds pretty familiar.........
My price range would be $400 - $500
What about you?
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Galaxy J with less RAM, smaller screen & less MP camera?

i would like a phone from avengers used by tony stark. i would like to pay 1000$ for that

riahc3 said:
Hello,
With this being talked about now, what will your dream phone have?
Mine is pretty simple:
Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 2.3GHz
Adreno 330 450MHz
2 GB RAM
3.8 V 2300 mAh, 8 Wh, Qi wireless charging
Slide out QWERTY physical keyboard
4.96 in (126 mm) diagonal IPS LCD with Corning Gorilla Glass 3 (1080×1920 px (444 ppi))
8 MP with OIS, f/2.4 aperture and Xenon flash.
1.3 MP Front Camera
3.5 mm TRRS
GPS
Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
Bluetooth 4.0
NFC
Infrared port
Every damn radio band so I can use GSM/3G/4G all over the world
Now that I look at it, this phone sounds pretty familiar.........
My price range would be $400 - $500
What about you?
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Why dont you get Nexus 5? it pretty much has the same specs that you wrote above...

Vlad Paul said:
i wish tis phone
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Fu$$ing hell dude! where did you find that?
romeoofair said:
i would like a phone from avengers used by tony stark. i would like to pay 1000$ for that
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Jarvis would be cool!

Sony Xperia™ Z3 Concept Phone {Updated 15 May 2014}

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5.3" Inches QHD IPS Display
2560 x 1440 pixels
Sony Live Color LED
Capacitive Touchscreen
Corning Gorilla Glass 3
30.7 MP 1/2.2" HDR With LED Flash
Exmor RS™ Sensor For Image & Video
BIONZ™ for mobile
8x Digital Zoom
Full HD Video Recording 1080p + 4K UHD
Front Camera 5 MP Exmor RS HDR 1080p
Quad-Core 2.7 GHz Krait 450
Qualcomm Snapdragon 805
Embedded Battery
PlayStation Certified
X-Reality for mobile
Adreno 420
147 x 73 x 7.5 mm
NFC
155 grams
3 GB RAM
4G LTE
Android v4.4.3 KitKat
Internal 32 GB Storage
microSD up to 64GB
554 Ppi Pixel Density
Camera Button
xLOUD Experience
Dual Stereo Speakers
Noice Cancelling
HD Voice
Li-Ion 3500mAh
Bluetooth v4.0
microSIM
Dust & Water Proof IP55 & 58 Certified
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Multitouch Up to 10 Fingers
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BIONZ™ for mobile
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PlayStation Certified
X-Reality for mobile
Adreno 420
148 x 75 x 7.2 mm
NFC
155 grams
3 GB RAM
4G LTE
Android v4.4.3 KitKat
Internal 32 GB Storage
microSD up to 64GB
400 Ppi Pixel Density
Camera Button
xLOUD Experience
Dual Stereo Speakers
Noice Cancelling
HD Voice
Li-Ion 3500mAh
Bluetooth v4.0
microSIM
Dust & Water Proof IP55 & 58 Certified
Available in Black,White,Red & Purple Color
Multitouch Up to 10 Fingers

I can't see your concept image but the spec you listed is kind of obvious and at list some of it will most likely be a part of its spec. small fine tuning corrections though: with such spec and sony favoring razor like designs: height should be 150 mm or slightly more, thickness 8.5-9mm, weight 170-180 grams, its edges are rumored to be more rounded then Z2.

amirprog said:
I can't see your concept image but the spec you listed is kind of obvious and at list some of it will most likely be a part of its spec. small fine tuning corrections though: with such spec and sony favoring razor like designs: height should be 150 mm or slightly more, thickness 8.5-9mm, weight 170-180 grams, its edges are rumored to be more rounded then Z2.
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refresh the page few times...
and Z2 is 146.8 x 73.3 x 8.2 mm
so for Z3 of course,will be a bit longer & wider as uses 5.5" (my concept) which is 148 x 75 x 7.2 mm
for 7.2mm would be lighter,155grams...

I can see your image now. i like your concept. looks nice, clean, authentic. i hope sony is staying with glass and metal sides materials - reception friendly.
though, even if it will be wider and taller i still doubt less then 8mm thickness for a phone with such spec plus most likely new internals like WQHD resolution, etc. i watch Z2 tear down and the camera sensor looks almost as thick as the phone thickness, it's crazy. don't forget that. if they make the camera sensor smaller then maybe. i would be amazed and happy if sony can design it with 7.2mm thickness. look at find 7 with 5.5 WQHD display - 9.2mm, but because sony know design better then oppo i'd bet on 8-8.2mm - same as Z2. also, i wonder if the rounded edges will look like in your concept or rounded all around let's say like oppo find 7. is sony staying with omnibalance design? their designer said in an interview that they would like to make a new design... many questions... it would be better if you add a two tone camera LED - i bet sony will add it. it's becoming a standard.

If that screen is 5,5 with that many bezel than than would be SO FKING HUGE!

SkyS1gn said:
If that screen is 5,5 with that many bezel than than would be SO FKING HUGE!
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Not huge at all, considering the big camera sensor, waterproofing design and bigger battery, etc and the phone profile thinness. it's all relative to what internals a phone has.

amirprog said:
not huge at all, considering the big camera sensor, waterproofing design and bigger battery, etc. it's all relative to what internals a phone has.
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His concept picture is basically a Z1 from the front/back, the bezels are huge, and if you couple that with the 5,5 screen, you get a totally waste of space phone what you cant even handle.
The spec is reasonable.
The only compains what i hear from reviews is that the Z2 is awkward to handle, but i dont care i have big hands.
5 and 5,2" OK, if they want to go bigger, they'll need to seriously reduce those bezels.

SkyS1gn said:
His concept picture is basically a Z1 from the front/back, the bezels are huge, and if you couple that with the 5,5 screen, you get a totally waste of space phone what you cant even handle.
The spec is reasonable.
The only compains what i hear from reviews is that the Z2 is awkward to handle, but i dont care i have big hands.
5 and 5,2" OK, if they want to go bigger, they'll need to seriously reduce those bezels.
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You realistically cannot go further with screen size. I could actually see the screen remaining 5,2" but bezel reducing and the size of the phone reducing compared to the Z2. Ideally, you'd want the top and bottom bezels to be as small as possible and nearly none on the sides. That I would consider a buy. Any additional increase in size and I'd have to give up on these phones...
And it's not just hand size, it's also pocketability. I have an ultra and although it fits in my jeans pockets, it's just too big. You can't sit with it, move around, without risking to actually break the thing (which I thing IS the reason why people say the screens crack);

globiboulga said:
You realistically cannot go further with screen size. I could actually see the screen remaining 5,2" but bezel reducing and the size of the phone reducing compared to the Z2. Ideally, you'd want the top and bottom bezels to be as small as possible and nearly none on the sides. That I would consider a buy. Any additional increase in size and I'd have to give up on these phones...
And it's not just hand size, it's also pocketability. I have an ultra and although it fits in my jeans pockets, it's just too big. You can't sit with it, move around, without risking to actually break the thing (which I thing IS the reason why people say the screens crack);
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There is no such thing as ideal for all, only personal preference. ideal for you is not necessarily ideal for me. Z3-4 are very likely to have 5.5" WQHD display and actually all the future flagships because the fact that there are no IPS panels with less then 5.5" for 2k resolution. plus, sony made the compact line for people who want smaller flagships. i personally glad that the new standard will be 5.5" for mid sized flagships. i'm willing to accept less pocketability for bigger display and better spec. nothing is perfect.
in my opinion the ultra has arrived to the borderline of pocketable phones. bigger device then the ultra should be marketed as a device that can be carried in a bag... more like tablet.

Z2 storage is expandable up to 128 (official info), and your Z3 concept will be limited to 64 gb
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isn't the current z2 big enough? It's super chunky

Naiks20 said:
isn't the current z2 big enough? It's super chunky
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This.
If it were 5.5 inches I wouldn't buy it as for everyday use it wouldn't be great.
4.7-5.2 inches are the best screen sizes for a phone in my opinion.
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chinedu40 said:
This.
If it were 5.5 inches I wouldn't buy it as for everyday use it wouldn't be great.
4.7-5.2 inches are the best screen sizes for a phone in my opinion.
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Then your only future daily driver flagship option is to follow sony compact line (its successor is predicted to have slightly bigger display - 4.5-4.7") or companies that still make 5.0" flagships. most if not ALL OEM's future mid sized flagships from now on will carry 5.5" display. find 7>OnePlus One>G3>Z3, etc. read the news.

amirprog said:
Then your only future daily driver flagship option is to follow sony compact line (its successor is predicted to have slightly bigger display - 4.5-4.7") or companies that still make 5.0" flagships. most if not ALL OEM's future mid sized flagships from now on will carry 5.5" display. find 7>OnePlus One>G3>Z3, etc. read the news.
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I doubt that this is going to happen. I can see them going to mayb 5.3 inches max, but i think anything from 5.5 inches and above is a phablet and I think manufacturers are aware of the ever increasing screen size problem.
Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with 5.5 inches, but the phone either becomes too wide, too long or both and this makes it rather uncomfortable to use every day and with one hand.

Things I think Sony can improve/add on next phones:
- IP68 instead of IP58 (better dust protection).
- Optical image stabilization instead of Digital image stabilization.
- High FPS recording mode where you can choose, [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] **maybe: [email protected] and [email protected], Can S805 handle this?
- Internal memory, user should be able to choose between 16/32/64GB models, just like Apple do.
- Micro USB 3.0.
- MHL 3.0 support
- Bluetooth 4.1 (S805 supports 4.0 by default, but I read it somewhere that Bluetooth 4.1 can be done with a software update).

chinedu40 said:
I doubt that this is going to happen. I can see them going to mayb 5.3 inches max, but i think anything from 5.5 inches and above is a phablet and I think manufacturers are aware of the ever increasing screen size problem.
Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with 5.5 inches, but the phone either becomes too wide, too long or both and this makes it rather uncomfortable to use every day and with one hand.
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Fellow, i understand your preference for smaller devices but stop doubting it - find 7 is on the market being sold right now, oneplus one and g3 are confirmed to have 5.5". z3 is sure to follow them, a safe bet. also, enter japan display and auo websites - major panel manufacturers - 2k displays start from 5.5". OEM's don't want to stay behind in spec sheet. this is how the industry behave. anyway, i'm sure all other companies will wake up from their sleep and follow sony with their minis - making them mini flagships and not overpriced weak mid range phones, so you will have plenty of phones to choose from and not only sony compact. they won't have other choice because as you said, the mid sized flags are getting too big for some people. EDIT: for your information, there is no 5.3" display on the market, not in mass production anyway, so from 5.2" companies can jump to 5.5". anyway, i'm sure the mid sized flags will stay on 5.5" for a long time until devices get fordable because otherwise phablets won't have a legitimacy to exist.

RHBH said:
Things I think Sony can improve/add on next phones:
- IP68 instead of IP58 (better dust protection).
- Optical image stabilization instead of Digital image stabilization.
- High FPS recording mode where you can choose, [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] **maybe: [email protected] and [email protected], Can S805 handle this?
- Internal memory, user should be able to choose between 16/32/64GB models, just like Apple do.
- Micro USB 3.0.
- MHL 3.0 support
- Bluetooth 4.1 (S805 supports 4.0 by default, but I read it somewhere that Bluetooth 4.1 can be done with a software update).
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It already has MHL 3.0 support....just no cables/adapters exist for it yet that a normal consumer can buy!
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amirprog said:
Fellow, i understand your preference for smaller devices but stop doubting it - find 7 is on the market being sold right now, oneplus one and g3 are confirmed to have 5.5". z3 is sure to follow them, a safe bet. also, enter japan display and auo websites - major panel manufacturers - 2k displays start from 5.5". OEM's don't want to stay behind in spec sheet. this is how the industry behave. anyway, i'm sure all other companies will wake up from their sleep and follow sony with their minis - making them mini flagships and not overpriced weak mid range phones, so you will have plenty of phones to choose from and not only sony compact. they won't have other choice because as you said, the mid sized flags are getting too big for some people. EDIT: for your information, there is no 5.3" display on the market, not in mass production anyway, so from 5.2" companies can jump to 5.5". anyway, i'm sure the mid sized flags will stay on 5.5" for a long time until devices get fordable because otherwise phablets won't have a legitimacy to exist.
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Whilst, I hope manufacturers do not do this, i can see where you're coming from.
Do you think a 2k display sub 5.5inches is feasible?

Whilst, I hope manufacturers do not do this, i can see where you're coming from.
Do you think a 2k display sub 5.5inches is feasible?
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Yes, i see no reason why it wouldn't be possible, but manufacturers don't do it because it would be harder to notice a difference in resolution in 5" display and 2k displays are more expensive to make. even in 5.5" the change should generally look subtle which is fine but it also depends on how close your eyes are from the display.

Ben Ling said:
Hello People,I Had Created The Concept Of Sony Xperia™ Z3
What Do You Think About It ?
Refresh the page if you can't see the image
Specs
5.5" Inches Full HD IPS Display
1920 x 1080 pixels
Sony Live Color LED
Capacitive Touchscreen
Corning Gorilla Glass 3
25.7MP 1/2.3" HDR With LED Flash
Exmor RS™ Sensor For Image & Video
BIONZ™ for mobile
16x Digital Zoom
Full HD Video Recording 1080p + 4K UHD
Front Camera 3.2MP Exmor RS HDR 1080p
Quad-Core 2.7 GHz Krait 450
Qualcomm Snapdragon 805
Embedded Battery
PlayStation Certified
X-Reality for mobile
Adreno 420
148 x 75 x 7.2 mm
NFC
155 grams
3 GB RAM
4G LTE
Android v4.4.3 KitKat
Internal 32 GB Storage
microSD up to 64GB
400 Ppi Pixel Density
Camera Button
xLOUD Experience
Dual Stereo Speakers
Noice Cancelling
HD Voice
Li-Ion 3500mAh
Bluetooth v4.0
microSIM
Dust & Water Proof IP55 & 58 Certified
Available in Black,White,Red & Purple Color
Multitouch Up to 10 Fingers
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looks like more like Xperia M2 and bezels?? same need to change the bezel thing in Xperia

Nice concept, though I see no need to make the screen even bigger (5.5 inches sounds huge.)
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One plus one vs one plus 2 what do you think who is real flagship killer

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ONE PLUS ONE:
GSM/HSPA/LTE
BODY Dimensions 152.9 x 75.9 x 8.9 mm (6.02 x 2.99 x 0.35 in)
Weight 162 g (5.71 oz)
SIM Micro-SIM
DISPLAY Type LTPS LCD capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 5.5 inches (~71.9% screen-to-body ratio)
Resolution 1080 x 1920 pixels (~401 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes, up to 10 fingers
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass 3
- CyanogenMod 12 (after SW update)
PLATFORM OS Android OS, v4.4.2 (KitKat), upgradable to v5.0.2 (Lollipop)
Chipset Qualcomm MSM8974AC Snapdragon 801
CPU Quad-core 2.5 GHz Krait 400
GPU Adreno 330
MEMORY Card slot No
Internal 16/64 GB, 3 GB RAM
CAMERA Primary 13 MP, 4128 x 3096 pixels, autofocus, dual-LED flash, check quality
Features Geo-tagging, touch focus, face detection, panorama, HDR
Video [email protected], 2160p(DCI)@24fps, [email protected], [email protected],
HDR, stereo sound rec., check quality
Secondary 5 MP, [email protected]
SOUND Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes, dual mono speakers
3.5mm jack Yes
COMMS WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, hotspot
Bluetooth v4.1, A2DP
GPS Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS
NFC Yes
Radio No
USB microUSB v2.0, USB Host
FEATURES Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Messaging SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, IM, Push Email
Browser HTML5
Java No
- ANT+ support
- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
- MP4/H.264/WMV player
- MP3/eAAC+/WMA/WAV/FLAC player
- Document viewer
- Photo viewer/editor
- Voice memo/dial/commands
BATTERY Non-removable Li-Po 3100 mAh battery
Stand-by
Talk time
MISC Colors Silk White, Sandstone Black
SAR US 0.62 W/kg (head) 0.75 W/kg (body)
Price group 5/10
TESTS Performance Basemark OS II: 1196 / Basemark OS II 2.0: 1230
Basemark X: 13129
Display Contrast ratio: 799 (nominal), 1.961 (sunlight)
Camera Photo / Video
Loudspeaker Voice 74dB / Noise 73dB / Ring 80dB
Audio quality Noise -94.1dB / Crosstalk -94.3dB
ONE PLUS TWO
GSM/HSPA/LTE
BODY Dimensions 151.8 x 74.9 x 9.9 mm (5.98 x 2.95 x 0.39 in)
Weight 175 g (6.17 oz)
SIM Dual SIM (Nano-SIM, dual stand-by)
- Fingerprint sensor
DISPLAY Type LTPS LCD capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 5.5 inches (~73.3% screen-to-body ratio)
Resolution 1080 x 1920 pixels (~401 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass 4
- Oxygen UI
PLATFORM OS Android OS, v5.1 (Lollipop)
Chipset Qualcomm MSM8994 Snapdragon 810
CPU Quad-core Cortex-A53 & Quad-core 1.8 GHz Cortex-A57
GPU Adreno 430
MEMORY Card slot No
Internal 16 GB, 3 GB RAM
64 GB, 4 GB RAM
CAMERA Primary 13 MP, 4128 x 3096 pixels, optical image stabilization, laser autofocus,
dual-LED flash
Features Geo-tagging, touch focus, face detection, panorama, HDR
Video [email protected], 2160p(DCI)@24fps, [email protected], [email protected]
Secondary 5 MP, [email protected]
SOUND Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
COMMS WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, hotspot
Bluetooth v4.1, A2DP
GPS Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS
Radio To be confirmed
USB microUSB v2.0, Type-C reversible connector
FEATURES Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Messaging SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, IM, Push Email
Browser HTML5
Java No
- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
- DivX/Xvid/MP4/H.265 player
- MP3/eAAC+/WMA/WAV/FLAC player
- Document viewer
- Photo/video editor
BATTERY Non-removable Li-Po 3300 mAh battery
Stand-by
Talk time
MISC Colors Sandstone Black
SAR EU 0.43 W/kg
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Great specs and price, but lack of NFC and quick charge support doesnt make this device any flagship killer

Well, moto x style or pure is an better otion for a flagship killer

It got minor improvement over op1 nothing special.
-sd810: a lot of negative things, so sd801 still good.
-4gb ram: its nice to have but I always got 700mb free.
-finger scan: again its nice, but I always swipe to unlock.. much quicker.
-USB type c: reversible good but still slow USB 2.0
-Thicker and heavier.
-No NFC, quick charge, wireless charge, no OTG.
-No USF 2.0 still using eMMC as op1.
I think its a good phone for first time buyer.

droidnext said:
It got minor improvement over op1 nothing special.
-sd810: a lot of negative things, so sd801 still good.
-4gb ram: its nice to have but I always got 700mb free.
-finger scan: again its nice, but I always swipe to unlock.. much quicker.
-USB type c: reversible good but still slow USB 2.0
-Thicker and heavier.
-No NFC, quick charge, wireless charge, no OTG.
-No USF 2.0 still using eMMC as op1.
I think its a good phone for first time buyer.
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Yes i don't think 1+2 is real flagship killer
What this mean IF YOU DON'T HAVE
NO OTG
NO FAST CHARGE
NO NFC
COPY CAT DESIGN OF SAMSUNG PHONES LIKE GALAXY XYZ SERIES EVEN OPO IS BETTER IN DESIGN THAN OPT
NO QHD SCREEN
MONO SPEAKERS
NO REMARKABLE CAMERA
IT WILL NOT EVEN MAINTAIN ITS CROWN OF FLAGSHIP KILLER FOR 2015 (THEY SAID ITS FK 2016)
IF THEY WILL ADD ABOVE FEATURES IT WILL BE REAL FLAGSHIP KILLER
BUT ANY WAY THROUGH XDA DEVELOPERS I THINK WE WILL GET SOME BENEFIT TO OPO
WHEN THERE WAS DEVELOPMENT OF OPT
MAINLY KERNEL VERSION I. E 3.10
HURREY
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No flagship killer... not even in the discussion.
In fact, their slogan, "Never Settle," should be taken down/ replaced.
Still a great value, but missing the mark in many ways. I think they lost their way with the fingerprint scanner. To keep the price low, that took away from other more desirable/ useful features (NFC, Wireless Charging, QHD, higher pxl density camera, significant battery life).
This might be built more for the international market more than the US market. The Moto X Style/pure looks like the better choice for the US market.

Why isn't both an option? It's a legitimate answer.

CafeKampuchia said:
Why isn't both an option? It's a legitimate answer.
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both could be an option, but both is not an option at the same time.
What I mean to say is that, the OnePlus One itself is a flagship killer for 2014. True. For 2015 it does hold up on its own (though you have devices such as LG G3, the OPPO Find 7, and I think xiaomi mi note, if you can get it without the bloated price)
But if you take 2015 phones as a basis, the OnePlus Two isn't a flagship killer, because either it never was, or got dethroned by Motorola Moto X Style.

im more concerned about their refusal to scrap the completely ridiculous invite system, after the amount of grief they got last time and the amount of people put off from buying the phone as they were not prepared to wait months they've gone and done it again and come out with nonsense like plenty more invites, well they weren't bankng of getting over 2 million requests so they'll never be able to accommodate all those people, ok some might be multiple email signups but i estimate at least 65% are genuine,
My OPO still running perfectly but at this stage i need a new phone, id love an S6 Edge but poor battery life and ridiculous price tag has put me off, but certainly i wont be waiting months for a 1 + 2 invite so ill be searching elsewhere, maybe Huawei or something.

A.VOID said:
No flagship killer... not even in the discussion.
In fact, their slogan, "Never Settle," should be taken down/ replaced.
Still a great value, but missing the mark in many ways. I think they lost their way with the fingerprint scanner. To keep the price low, that took away from other more desirable/ useful features (NFC, Wireless Charging, QHD, higher pxl density camera, significant battery life).
This might be built more for the international market more than the US market. The Moto X Style/pure looks like the better choice for the US market.
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You're right, not a flagship killer at all... Which makes sense considering it's half the price or less than the premium flagships out there. Just a good buzz word.
As for the Moto phones being good for the US market: I decided on the OPO over the previous Moto/Nexus 6 phones because of build quality problems. I know the OPO had its own issues, but I'd probably trust more in the early releases of the OP2 than these new Motos.
As for right now, I just replaced the LCD and housing on my OPO. I'm in no rush for the OP2, but wouldn't be against it if my invite gets sent out in the next couple months.

Neither ever was a flagship killer lol. These devices are for low budget people. 1+1 always had crappy screen. That yellowish urine at the bottom was hardware issue. While the 1+2 is biggest joke of the year. Whenever I see it get compared to real flagship devies I keep laughing.
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ambervals6 said:
Neither ever was a flagship killer lol. These devices are for low budget people. 1 1 always had crappy screen. That yellowish urine at the bottom was hardware issue. While the 1 2 is biggest joke of the year. Whenever I see it get compared to real flagship devies I keep laughing.
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Low budget peoples means
My opo is 6 month old no problem at all in software or hardware
Peoples who are complaining yellow tint and touch issues got faulty handsets
PEOPLES WITH OPO=LOW BUDGET PEOPLES
Its not true its because of thinking
YES IT IS TRUE THAT QUALITY OF HARDWARE IS NOT TOPNOTCH LIKE ON SONY/SAMSUNG BUT ITS NOT SO LOW QUALITY
but it has software quality is topnotch
and though we purchased most Premium devices like sgs6 iphone they don't have removable battery its going to die in few years about 5-6
So you have to change your device
so why to pay 50% more bucks when OPO will reach its limits like Premium devices

Open development vs close development software.

I jumped the gun and ordered a oneplus 2. After using it for a few weeks, I went back to my oneplus one. So much better. On the oneplus oneone, software is more stable and smoother, battery life is MUCH better, vibration motor is better, speaker is louder, phone is lighter, edges of phone aren't slippery, phone is much more comfortable to hold, back is flatter so doesn't wobble around on tables when typing, stereo speakers, no useless fingerprint scanner, faster charging, no notification switch that toggles in your pocket. The oneplus one really is the 2015 flagship killer it was advertised to be, but boy does the 2 disappoint.

Well I got a OP2 invite yesterday..
And after doing my normal xda thread reading....
I opted to buy the 64gb OPO and let the OP2 invite expire...
Of course my 64gb bamboo moto x Pure had a small part in my decision

I still think oneplus one really a value proposition . First is its price and second is its features. Although OPT is good enough to beat OPO but later is not a flagship killer mainly because OPT does not have NFC plus some software related issues , which OP need to rectify to be called as flagship killer.

Oneplus one is a beautiful device with CM ....myself used Nexus 4 ,5 for 4 years...bought OPO 1 month back...
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Oneplus One FTW

Op2, since its the latest and worth the price but opo was the real flagship killer before.
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one plus one inmortal flagship killer

SONY XPERIA Z3 COMPACT vs SONY XPERIA M5 TODAY

Hi, I'm holder from a few days ago xperia M5 and am very happy, this surprising me your camera and its great fluidity, helium mediatek x10 processor, same as the MX5 Meizu doing very well.
I wanted to know what is your opnion comparing the Sony xperia sony xperia M5 against z3 compact, they are on par ?? worth the change for compact or standard z3 z3 or basically the same? Greetings and thank you
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Network
Technology
▼GSM / HSPA / LTEExpand
Launch
Announced 2015, August
Status Available. Released 2015, September
Body
Dimensions 145 x 72 x 7.6 mm (5.71 x 2.83 x 0.30 in)
Weight 142.5 g (5.04 oz)
SIM Nano-SIM
- IP68 certified - dust proof and water resistant over 1.5 meter and 30 minutes
Display
Type IPS LCD capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 5.0 inches (~66.0% screen-to-body ratio)
Resolution 1080 x 1920 pixels (~441 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
Protection Scratch-resistant glass
Platform
OS Android OS, v5.0 (Lollipop), upgradable to v5.1 (Lollipop)
Chipset Mediatek MT6795 Helio X10
CPU Octa-core 2.0 GHz Cortex-A53
GPU PowerVR G6200
Memory
Card slot microSD, up to 256 GB (dedicated slot)
Internal 16 GB, 3 GB RAM
Camera
Primary 21.2 MP, f/2.2, phase detection autofocus, LED flash, check quality
Features Geo-tagging, touch focus, face/smile detection, HDR, panorama
Video [email protected], HDR, check quality
Secondary 13 MP, f/2.0, autofocus, [email protected]
Sound
Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
Comms
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, hotspot
Bluetooth v4.1, A2DP, LE, aptX
GPS Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS
NFC Yes
Radio FM radio, RDS
USB microUSB v2.0
Features
Sensors Accelerometer, proximity, compass
Messaging SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, IM, Push Email
Browser HTML5
Java No
- DivX/MP4/H.265 player
- MP3/eAAC+/WAV/WMA/Flac player
- Document viewer
- Photo/video editor
Battery
Non-removable Li-Ion 2600 mAh battery
Stand-by Up to 671 h (2G) / Up to 656 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 11 h 49 min (2G) / Up to 12 h 11 min (3G)
Music play Up to 62 h 30 min
Misc
Colors Black, White, Gold
Price group 8/10
Tests
Performance Basemark OS II: 804 / Basemark OS II 2.0: 860
Basemark X: 7780
Display Contrast ratio: 839 (nominal), 2.69(sunlight)
Camera Photo / Video
Loudspeaker Voice 65dB / Noise 64dB / Ring 68dB
Audio quality Noise -94.1dB / Crosstalk -93.4dB
VS
Also known as Sony D5803, D5833
Network
Technology
▼GSM / HSPA / LTEExpand
Launch
Announced 2014, September
Status Available. Released 2014, September
Body
Dimensions 127.3 x 64.9 x 8.6 mm (5.01 x 2.56 x 0.34 in)
Weight 129 g (4.55 oz)
SIM Nano-SIM
- IP68 certified - dust proof and water resistant over 1 meter and 30 minutes
Display
Type IPS LCD capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 4.6 inches (~70.6% screen-to-body ratio)
Resolution 720 x 1280 pixels (~319 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes, up to 10 fingers
Protection Shatter proof glass
- Triluminos display
- X-Reality Engine
Platform
OS Android OS, v4.4.4 (KitKat), upgradable to v6.0 (Marshmallow)
Chipset Qualcomm MSM8974AC Snapdragon 801
CPU Quad-core 2.5 GHz Krait 400
GPU Adreno 330
Memory
Card slot microSD, up to 256 GB (dedicated slot)
Internal 16 GB, 2 GB RAM
Camera
Primary 20.7 MP, f/2.0, 25mm, autofocus, LED flash, check quality
Features 1/2.3" sensor size, 1.12 µm pixel size, geo-tagging, touch focus, face detection, HDR, panorama
Video [email protected],[email protected], [email protected], HDR, check quality
Secondary 2.2 MP, f/2.8, [email protected]
Sound
Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes, with stereo speakers
3.5mm jack Yes
- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
Comms
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, hotspot
Bluetooth v4.0, A2DP, LE, aptX
GPS Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS
NFC Yes
Radio Stereo FM radio, RDS
USB microUSB v2.0 (MHL TV-out), USB Host; magnetic connector
Features
Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer
Messaging SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, IM, Push Email
Browser HTML5
Java No
- Fast battery charging: 60% in 30 min (Quick Charge 2.0)
- ANT+ support
- Xvid/MP4/H.264 player
- MP3/eAAC+/WAV/Flac player
- Document viewer
- Photo viewer/editor
- Voice memo/dial
Battery
Non-removable Li-Ion 2600 mAh battery
Stand-by Up to 880 h (2G) / Up to 920 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 12 h (2G) / Up to 14 h (3G)
Music play Up to 110 h
Misc
Colors Black, White, Green, Orange
SAR US 0.95 W/kg (head) 1.10 W/kg (body)
SAR EU 0.69 W/kg (head) 0.90 W/kg (body)
Price group 7/10
Tests
Performance Basemark OS II: 1167 / Basemark X: 12080
Display Contrast ratio: 942:1 (nominal), 2.616 (sunlight)
Camera Photo / Video
Loudspeaker Voice 65dB / Noise 62dB / Ring 73dB
Audio quality Noise -85.2dB / Crosstalk -85.3dB
Battery life
Endurance rating 101h
DIFFERENCES
M5- MEDIATEK HELIO X10 AT 2 GIGAHERZ, 3 OF RAM, 21,5 MPX IMX 300 SENSOR, MICROSD UP TO 200, 16 INTERNAL STORAGE, WIFI A/B/G/N , MIRACAST, NO MHL SUPPORT, 5 INCH IPS 1080 FULLHD SCREEN WITH MOBILE BRAVIA ENGINE 2, ANDROID 5.1.1 LOLLIPOP, 4K AND 1080P 60 FPS CAPABLE
Z3 COMPACT- SNAPDRAGON 801 AC 4 CORES AT 2,5, 2 OF RAM, 20 MPX IMX220 SENSOR, MICROSD UP TO 200 , 16 INTERNAL STORAGE, WIFI A/B/G/N/AC, MIRACAST, MHL SUPPORT, 4,3 INCH HD IPS 720P WITH MOBILE BRAVIA ENGINE 2, HIGH RESOLUCION AUDIO, ANDROID 6.0 MARSHSMALLOW, 4K AND 1080P 60 FPS CAPABLE

The Z3c has a better processor getting a 10k higher score than the M5,the M5 has a gig more RAM which means better multitasking,not sure about the camera,not have used a M5 in person and saw its camera,but I would say that maybe the M5 has a better camera. The screen is better on the M5 but the Z3c also has an amazing screen.
Overall if you don't plan to root your phone and put a custom ROM on it then the M5 is completely fine,but if you want to root and that then I would recommend getting the Z3c or the Z3.

Dinkec27 said:
The Z3c has a better processor getting a 10k higher score than the M5,the M5 has a gig more RAM which means better multitasking,not sure about the camera,not have used a M5 in person and saw its camera,but I would say that maybe the M5 has a better camera. The screen is better on the M5 but the Z3c also has an amazing screen.
Overall if you don't plan to root your phone and put a custom ROM on it then the M5 is completely fine,but if you want to root and that then I would recommend getting the Z3c or the Z3.
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Thanks for your answer mate!!
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When speaking of z3c or anything as large as M5, Z3, M4, etc, the main difference for some of us is just the overall size and of course battery life.

good post!
Thank you

DOOGEE MIX - Information & Reviews - 5.5" HD | Helio P25 | 4/6GB | 64/128GB | AMOLED

DOOGEE MIX - Information & Reviews - 5.5" HD | Helio P25 | 4/6GB | 64/128GB | AMOLED
DOOGEE MIX
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Specs:
Dimensions: 76.2 x 144 x 7.95 mm
Weight: 193 g
Chassis: Metal with Back Glass
SoC: MediaTek MT6757CD (Helio P25)
CPU: ARM Cortex-A53, 4x2390 MHz, Cores: 8
GPU: ARM Mali-T880 MP2 900MHz, Cores: 2
Network: 4G Cat.6 (300MBps) with VoLTE Support
RAM: 4 GB/6 GB
Storage: 64GB/128 GB
Memory cards: microSD, microSDHC, microSDXC
Display: 5.5 in, 720p, AMOLED
Protection: Gorilla Glass 5
Battery: 3380mAh, Li-Polymer
OS: Android 7.0 Nougat, FreemeOS skinned.
Back Camera: 4920 × 3264 pixels (16MP), Samsung ISOCELL Sensor, with 3264 x 2448 pixels (8MP) 2nd Camera
Front Camera: 3264 x 2448 pixels (8MP)
SIM card: Dual-SIM, Dual-Standby
Wi-Fi: a, b, g, n 2.4GHz/5.0GHz, dual-band, Wi-Fi Hotspot
USB: Micro-USB, 2.0
Bluetooth: 4.1
Positioning: GPS, A-GPS, GLONASS
Other Features: Front Fingerprint Scanner, High screen-to-body ratio
Colors: Dazzle Black, Blue (two variants)
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Official Website:
http://www.doogee.cc/detail/mix-series-bezel-less-smartphone/106
Development & Support:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/doogee-mix-development-support-t3632785
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Reviews:
My own review: Post #6 & #7
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WiredLeaks said:
Will this phone have a led notification light?
Do you know when it will be released?
thanks
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Both info are unknown for now, what i can tell you is that i may receive it in June.

Does anybody know when the 128GB version will be available again?

joda77 said:
Does anybody know when the 128GB version will be available again?
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They will start to distribute the 4/64 variant first, then (i guess after a while), also higher capacity ones.

Review (part 1)
Introduction
This is the DOOGEE MIX.
Hardware
Being one of the first Xiaomi Mi Mix clone released in 2017, this MIX tries to be as similar as possible (of course not equal), providing a 5.5" screen in a smaller body. Also as regards the RAM/ROM capacity, it tries to be as similar as possible, with a maximum of 6GB of RAM and 128GB of ROM. Unfortunately though it uses a Mediatek CPU, precisely the Helio P25, that isn't bad at all, but not as powerful as a Qualcomm Snapdragon 820.
Unboxing
Packaging, with a really nice look, comes with some accessories: 1x Micro-USB Cable, 1x 5V/2A USB Charger, 1x Quick Start Guide, 1x Warranty Certificate, 1x Hard Plastic Case, 1x Phone Holder (Ring), 1x SIM Card Tray Remover and the Smartphone (of course). A plastic screen protector is already applied, and an extra protector is included.
As already introduced before, the design has been copied almost entirely from the Mi Mix, but with a Metal Chassis (instead of Ceramic), a smaller overall size (being smaller the screen) and less glossy colors. The device feels solid, and the Gorilla Glass panel placed on the back makes it looking really premium.
When it comes to the size, well...this is able to beat all 5.5" inches devices released in the last few years. It is only 14.44x7.67x0.80cm, unbelieably compact, but with a weight of 198g, unfortunately feels heavy due to the small size and high weight. I guess the amount of glass increased its weight.
On the front side there almost bezel-less AMOLED Display with an overall clean look (2.5D curved) and the upper front side of the device features an Earpiece (a real one), and the Sensors hole that includes Light, Proximity and Gesture Sensors. Somehow they choose to not include a Notifcation LED, in 2017 i think this is a must have feature.
As regards the lower front side, there is the Fingerprint Scanner in the center (doesn't work as a physical button, can't be pressed), and a Front-Facing Camera that due to space issues couldn't have been placed on the upper side. There is some wasted space though.
On the back side there is the Glass Back Cover i mentioned before.
The upper rear side of the device features the Dual Camera Sensor supported by a Single-LED - Single-Tone Flashlight, and nothing else. On the lower rear side, excluding the DOOGEE logo, there isn't anything at all because the Speaker is positioned on the lower side of the device.
Device
Screen
This is the most interesting part of the device, its almost bezel-less AMOLED screen looks gorgeous, even though i don't like AMOLEDs too much (due to unreal colors). Talking about color accuracy on a AMOLED is like talking about speed for a city car. Colors look really saturated and un-real, and the white balance is a bit messed up. Someone can like it, someone might not. This is really personal.
Unfortunately due to its 720p Resolution, pixels are noticeable on camera, and sometimes also while using it. I don't understand why DOOGEE choose to include a 720p screen instead of 1080p, the Helio P25 is fast enough to handle 1080p Apps/Games.
Its light sensor supports smooth light changes with a maximum brightness of ~500lux. Great Brightness for best usage under direct-sunlight.
Viewing Angles are awesome, as we all know, AMOLEDs are the best when it comes to this.
Camera
Luckily DOOGEE choose to include a pretty good camera sensor for this device, a Samsung ISOCELL 16MP sensor with fast focus-time and good overall quality. It also supports Camera API 2 for Manual Controls such as Manual Focus, RAW Recording and so on. This is the first Mediatek Device i review with Camera2 Compatibility.
I guess the software isn't 100% ready though because the amount of noise is slighlty too high even while shooting outdoors, and sometimes the Flashlight is out-of-sync.
Here you can see an HDR-on/off comparision, plus some random extra photos.
The Blur Effect using the "Blur" option seems to work. (aka Bokeh)
Macros are probably the most detailed ones.
Indoors shoots are decent, nothing to complain about.
The flashlight isn't super powerful, being a Single-LED only, but it is still able to support the camera sensor properly, when it isn't out-of-sync of course.
As regards Video Recording, the quality and frame-rate of 1080p30 videos is OK, and it can shoot also in 2160p25 with a decent stable frame-rate.
The Front-Camera is placed on the lower front side of the device, so you need to shoot photos with the device upside-down for selfies and so on. The Quality isn't too bad, but colors look a bit washed-out.
Audio
Surprisingly, considering the small size of the device, its Speaker is powerful, with a little amount of low-frequencies and excessive distortion at maximum volume. The Earpiece though is a whole different story, due to its limited size, there is a complete lack of low-frequencies, and the volume is a bit limited.
As regards the Microphone, it is as good as the speaker, with high sensitivity and clarity. Everyone was able to hear me perfectly while in-call.
GPS
GPS Quality is perfect, with no issues at all with signal stability and accuracy. Finally Mediatek fixed the GPS on the Helio P25 considering the amount of issues present on the Helio P10.
Indoors on the left, outdoors on the right.
Telephony, Mobile Network & WiFi
Providing full european bands support (with 4G Band 20), the device was able to keep a stable connection to my 4G Network, with decent speeds (considering other devices tested in the same place) and mid-high signal.
WiFi 5GHz is supported, and connected at 121Mbps, i was able to reach almost ~60Mbps. Probably not as high as expected from the Link Speed, but still better than using the 2.4GHz connection.
Battery Life
As my usual reviewing routine, i measured the real battery capacity using an USB Tester, and it seems to be way lower than declared, ~300mAh less. (declared 3380mAh, real ~3080mAh)
Luckily, PCMark run just fine on this device even though it is running Android Nougat. Other Mediatek Devices with Nougat (and also some with Marshmallow) caused the Benchmark to stop by itself after some hours. The result is not so good unfortunately for a 3380mAh battery, but for a 3080mAh it is acceptable.
Thanks to the 2.0A charger, and the small battery, it is possible to recharge the device completely in more or less 2 hours. Maybe a Pump Express Charger would have been appreciated for even faster charging, but it is fast enough already.
Software
Unlike previous DOOGEE devices, this is the first one released with DoogeeOS (based on FreemeOS), with an ad-hoc launcher and some extra customizations. It is based on Android 7.0 Nougat (hopefully will be updated to 7.1.1 soon), with June 2017 security patches and, unfortunately, some pre-installed bloatware that can be uninstalled and/or disabled.
The UI feels smooth, i must admit not as smooth as i would have expected, but this is an early release so i can't blame DOOGEE for that. OTA Updates will gradually improve the device, just like other brands do.
Following the Mediatek line-up, also this one features MiraVision, Gestures (such as tap-to-wake) and so on...
Yes, it includes a Magnetometer/Compass and Gyroscope! Finally a device with a complete set of sensors.
No malwares detected with Malware-Bytes Anti-Malware using latest definitions.
As regards the Fingerprint Scanner management, it is as easy to manage as on all Android Nougat devices, and it is fast to unlock the device. I have to report that sometimes, after keeping the screen off for a long time, it sleeps a bit too much, requiring to turn on the screen in order to get the finger recognized.

Review (part 2)
Benchmarks
I have used 3DMark, AndroBench, Antutu Benchmark, Epic Citadel, GeekBench 4, GFXBench, PCMark (Work 2.0, Computer Vision, Storage & Work 1.0) and Vellamo to stress the device to the limit. I won’t test Games or Video Playback because there are already some related tests included in these Benchmark suites.
3DMark – Thankfully the Mali-T880MP2 is able to handle almost everything.
AndroBench – I don't know yet the eMMC brand and model, but its performance is really good.
Antutu Benchmark – I won’t say a lot about this benchmark, this isn’t as reliable as others. I’m providing this just for benchmarks lovers.
Epic Citadel – 720p Gaming on a Mali-T880MP2 = Buttery Smooth experience.
GeekBench – CPU Performance is confusing. The CPU is recognized as MT6757CH instead of MT6757T, and its performance isn't higher than a Helio P20. Software Issue? I hope so.
CPU
Compute
GFXBench – Just like on most GPUs, this benchmark struggles to run smooth. This is normal, only super high-end devices could handle this properly.
PCMark – Interesting results, being the first time i benchmark an Helio P25 i do not have any point of referral that i can use to compare these scores.
Work 2.0
Computer Vision
Storage
Work 1.0
Vellamo – Luckily Vellamo is kind enough to provide a list of devices in order to compare all scores, and the result is as good as i would have expected, excluding for the Single-Core benchmark, a bit low.
Conclusions
DOOGEE MIX, the first innovative device i have reviewed in the 2017. Clone of the Mi Mix? Not really. I would call it the little brother.
The device itself beats all previous DOOGEE devices when it comes to the design and overall price-performance ratio, and excluding the software that isn't ready yet in my opinion, i find it to be unique and balanced.
Of course it isn't perfect, due to missing the Notification LED and 720p screen, but being the first try from DOOGEE to release something 100% new and hard to engineer, i am definitely happy with the result.
Do i recommend it? It is all up to you, this is a device that has some features that some users may like and some users may not. Personally, i like everything except the AMOLED over-saturated colors, but i know lots of friends that love this kind of screens so...think on every single feature and choose if it can satisfy your requirements or not. ^^
Pros:
Outstading Design
Ergonomically Perfect
Android 7.0 Nougat with latest security patches
Camera2 API Supported for Manual Focus and RAW Capture
AMOLED screen for real blacks
Magnetometer/Compass & Gyroscope are here
Cons:
Sleepy Fingerprint Scanner
HD-only screen = Low Pixel Density
Over-Saturated screen colors (PERSONAL)
No Notification LED
Battery Capacity doesn't match the declared value (at least on my review unit)
Rating: 8.6
Packaging and Accessories: 9
Design and Materials: 10
Performance and Heat Dissipation: 9.5
Screen: 8
Camera: 9
Sound: 7.5
Battery Life: 7.5
Software: 7
OEM Support: 9
Price: 9.5
You can find full-res images (I know, Quality isn't excellent) here: http://imgur.com/a/a3OcI
Official Website: http://www.doogee.cc/detail/mix-series-bezel-less-smartphone/106
You can buy it on many online shops. Official, and authorized, Retailers are listed in the DOOGEE website.​

Awesome review. Bought one... waiting for it to arrive. I'll hope to have custom roms for it.

looks like at the end there are some benchmarks there that are not suppose to be there, namely for the xiaomi mi mix instead of doogee mix

jeffreydeleeuw said:
looks like at the end there are some benchmarks there that are not suppose to be there, namely for the xiaomi mi mix instead of doogee mix
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Some benchmarks recognize the device incorrectly unfortunately

Alberto96 said:
Some benchmarks recognize the device incorrectly unfortunately
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ok no problem

Thank you for the good review. do you think that cistom roms will be released for this device?

Excellent job on the review Alberto. A lot of work you put into it. We're working on a TWRP now.
Our review will be coming soon.

fagin said:
Thank you for the good review. do you think that cistom roms will be released for this device?
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Chinaphonearena said:
Excellent job on the review Alberto. A lot of work you put into it. We're working on a TWRP now.
Our review will be coming soon.
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Dev. & Support thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/doogee-mix-development-support-t3632785

And the speaker sound is real stereo?
There will be a software that ix the recording video sound or is a hardware bug?
Thanks

Botandroid said:
And the speaker sound is real stereo?
There will be a software that ix the recording video sound or is a hardware bug?
Thanks
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1) No, single speaker on the bottom.
2) I don't have the same issue :/

While having the Mix (6GB version) for 3 days now, I wanted to share my thoughts with you:
Pro:
- Display is almost as sharp to my eyes as a 1080p (thought this would be a minus)
- Looks nice and has premium feeling
- Works OK
- Is quite speedy
- Excellent mic (people hear me very well)
- fingerprint sensor works very fine on my sample
Cons:
- Very Heavy!!!
- Camera indoors is total crap, cannot even take any photos which are sharp, it seems this one cannot even properly focus in mid to low light.
- Earpiece speaker max. loudness is less than Oneplus X, Vernee Mars or Asus, or Nexus 4 (which is the best)
- Loudspeaker is waay to silent, compared to other ones, barely usable with speakerphone setup.
- battery drains faster then my OPX (which has low reputation)
- IT's not a bezel-less design, since it's wider than my old ASUS Zenfone 2 Z00AD.
And I'm afraid no SW update will come soon (or even ever) to this one.
But - Value for money is OK.
my 2 cents.

Bluboo S1 or Maze Alpha? I'm considering cancelling my order for Maze Alpha and grab the S1 instead.

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1) No, single speaker on the bottom.
2) I don't have the same issue :/
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I was Cheated. I got a response from Doogee's support that the Doogee mix had stereo speakers and that there would be an update to correct the camera's sound and other errors. Mine is already on the way and should be almost to come ... if I could I cancel the purchase and buy the bluboo s1 or another of the same range. thank you

Great Review my friend