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When will there be more SS roms?

So are the locked bl folks like myself left behind in the long-term? What needs to happen for there to be more SS ROM development??
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zombolt said:
So are the locked bl folks like myself left behind in the long-term? What needs to happen for there to be more SS ROM development??
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Supposedly, there's a way to make every ROM SS compatible. I think it has to do with removing the boot.img, but I'm sure there's more it than that. I've seen people complain about there being no SS ROMs, then someone mentions this solution, but nobody takes action. Honestly, it's going to be up to someone that has a locked down device to start putting out these SS compatible ROMs.
Then, you will run into kernel issues like we used to run into on the older SS ROMs. Let's say you want CM10.2 that is 4.3 based. Your stock ROM is 4.1.2, so you'll run into kernel issues like an inop camera, WiFi, etc. Honestly, your best bet is to find one of the 2 SS compatible stock ROMs that are the same kernel as you and use Xposed to modify it. There's someone on DroidRzr that used Xposed on his X with a stock ROM and he has been able to load up the custom CM themes.

RikRong said:
Supposedly, there's a way to make every ROM SS compatible. I think it has to do with removing the boot.img, but I'm sure there's more it than that. I've seen people complain about there being no SS ROMs, then someone mentions this solution, but nobody takes action. Honestly, it's going to be up to someone that has a locked down device to start putting out these SS compatible ROMs.
Then, you will run into kernel issues like we used to run into on the older SS ROMs. Let's say you want CM10.2 that is 4.3 based. Your stock ROM is 4.1.2, so you'll run into kernel issues like an inop camera, WiFi, etc. Honestly, your best bet is to find one of the 2 SS compatible stock ROMs that are the same kernel as you and use Xposed to modify it. There's someone on DroidRzr that used Xposed on his X with a stock ROM and he has been able to load up the custom CM themes.
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Yeah... It can't be that hard - all the other motos have SS CMs out. Just gotta have someone with the knowledge and need/want to make it happen
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You'd probably have to cook up a kexec kernel to get the newer ROMs functioning properly...
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miui rom
[ROM] MIUI v5 is this rom for ss or cwm?

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[ROM] MIUI v5 is this rom for ss or cwm?
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Unlocked only
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[Q]cm11 on mk2?

im driving myself insane reading threads and getting confused. i just got an s4 i337 and its running mk2. i really want to run cm11 or atleast a stock aosp rom. im not enjoying touchwiz at all. am i even able to do that? i got saferoot and safestrap but after that im confused.

The Jack of Clubs said:
im driving myself insane reading threads and getting confused. i just got an s4 i337 and its running mk2. i really want to run cm11 or atleast a stock aosp rom. im not enjoying touchwiz at all. am i even able to do that? i got saferoot and safestrap but after that im confused.
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Negative. Only touchwiz based roms will work with 4.3 MK2.
Your best bet is using an AOSP themed ROM such as blackbox or purified. You can find some more info here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616221
Or, more simply, install a new launcher such as apex or nova and then you won't have to worry about touchwiz

That's extremely disappointing. I'm really starting to hate this phone and I think I'm going to call att tomorrow and see if I can get something else. Perhaps an htc one or lg g2. But this isn't going to work out. This is not the level of customization I want. Touch wiz goes deeper than just the launcher, and what happens in another year or two when att stops providing updates? No, I'm done and I don't want this thing anymore. Bad ATT and bad Samsung.
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The Jack of Clubs said:
im driving myself insane reading threads and getting confused. i just got an s4 i337 and its running mk2. i really want to run cm11 or atleast a stock aosp rom. im not enjoying touchwiz at all. am i even able to do that? i got saferoot and safestrap but after that im confused.
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I'm no expert, but anything other than MDB and MDL means a locked bootloader. AFAIK that means, all safestrap does is let you load a different rom, but that rom has to be based on the touchwiz kernel. That means no AOSP and that means no CM11. I'm in the same boat.

Hello,
Sorry to revive this after several months of inactivity, but I have exactly the same problem and am confused by the information I have found on XDA, possibly a fault of my own. I have a Galaxy S4 AT&T i337 with MK2 4.3, and I want to run CM11.
A much much more tech savvy friend of mine setup my phone in January 2013 with CM11 using the TWRP recovery. It originally was just the AT&T stock everything. Unfortunately, I no longer have contact with him, and I have no idea how he did any of this . I was specifically running the build from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2383143, which is now here: http://www.handy-faq.de/forum/galax...h_app2sd_glove_mode_dual_boot_for_all_s4.html
Since then it updated automatically to the last nightlies without any issues. Two days ago, however, I updated, and my phone went into a boot loop. I booted into recovery and tried to flash the last version that worked, but that resulted in my phone staying in a boot loop without being able to boot into recovery. I then used Odin to flash the original firmware and stock ROM, and now it works fine, but I miss CM11 very badly (or more accurately I find the stock ROM annoying in comparison).
The previous posts here indicate that CM11 cannot be installed on the i337 MK2. Also, this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42320414&postcount=2 lead me to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428254 which says "Also, at this time, only TW based ROMs will work with SS. CM, AOSP, AOKP, MIUI, etc will not work." But I do not actually understand the difference between Safestrap and TWRP enough to know whether or not Safestrap not allowing CM11 means this model won't allow CM11 at all.
I would like to understand why there is indication that CM11 cannot be put on the i337 MK2 when my friend somehow succeeded. Then perhaps we can succeed in devising a method to install CM11 on this model. I apologize for not having any proof that it worked, but I swear I ran CM11 on this exact model and firmware build for many months very happily.
Does anyone have any thoughts on this discrepancy? Sorry if this is a naive/stupid post. Thanks in advance to anyone who chimes in.

Just bought phone of craigslist

Hey guys I just got this G2 today for 240 off craigslist. I currently have a note 3 as a daily driver and wanted to experiment with this thing. I'm really into rooting and the note 3 development is slow at best. So i have the phone and i started poking around and learn that i'm already rooted .. There is a custom recovery installed i think it said phils somethign recovery.... it's rooted and all that.. i dont know what to do. .I made a back up... do I need to do anything else? Is the bootloader installed? I'm lost. But i'm really excited to get an AOKP rom or something .. Where do I go from here?

kickenwing13 said:
Hey guys I just got this G2 today for 240 off craigslist. I currently have a note 3 as a daily driver and wanted to experiment with this thing. I'm really into rooting and the note 3 development is slow at best. So i have the phone and i started poking around and learn that i'm already rooted .. There is a custom recovery installed i think it said phils somethign recovery.... it's rooted and all that.. i dont know what to do. .I made a back up... do I need to do anything else? Is the bootloader installed? I'm lost. But i'm really excited to get an AOKP rom or something .. Where do I go from here?
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Probably Philz Touch 6? What is it running stock? Kitkat or JellyBean?
I had the exact same thing as you (bought it off a similar website) and mine had JellyBean,
so I flashed a stock Kitkat Rom onto it but kept the root. Loving it so far

Well Well have Pacman installed. Have been having issues. Not Not sure why. Is there anything more stable.
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Probably Philz Touch 6? What is it running stock? Kitkat or JellyBean?
I had the exact same thing as you (bought it off a similar website) and mine had JellyBean,
so I flashed a stock Kitkat Rom onto it but kept the root. Loving it so far
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kickenwing13 said:
Well Well have Pacman installed. Have been having issues. Not Not sure why. Is there anything more stable.
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Yes stock KK is the most stable Rom I've ever used. No offense to aosp. They just don't offer anything but boring options, fc's, and sods
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jrgilbert79 said:
Yes stock KK is the most stable Rom I've ever used. No offense to aosp. They just don't offer anything but boring options, fc's, and sods
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well now i simply need to figure out fastest way to get to stock KK from pacman... my backup was corrupted. .. . any thoughts?

Issue flashing 'Google' edition ROMs...

Hi, I'm probably being very idiotic atm but I can't think of any logical issues.
I'm using the Samsung Galaxy S4 i337.. I downgraded from NB1 to MK2, got root, installed safestrap, and attempted to install this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2544474
It was my understanding this came with Loki-Doki (saw it floating around in a different thread asking if it worked, can find it if nessecary) as a patch. So I downloaded and backed up my stock install, and attempted to install this.
Now the problem is when I boot, it returns me to a bootloop, if you could call that progress.. It vibrates occasionally while bootlooping (samsung - safeboot - blackscreen - vibrate - samsung....). I still have access to safestrap, download mode and so on, if it helps at all. I've also tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2537495 WITH loki-doki (as it is explicitly stated) to no success either..
I'm looking for one of two solutions;
how to get stock firmware back, or how to properly install this? Or any variation thereof. . . I don't know what the problem is ahaha

Bumping to say multiple wipes>reflashes later the blue screen has yet to occur, not sure what that was... Bootlooping is the huge problem now!

You can't use that rom. You need a tw based rom. This one is aosp
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jd1639 said:
You can't use that rom. You need a tw based rom. This one is aosp
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Doesn't the second one work with my phone though? And the comments say 'working on i337'etc on the first one... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2537495
It's still giving me the same problems with loki-doki.

Rhymey said:
Doesn't the second one work with my phone though? And the comments say 'working on i337'etc on the first one... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2537495
It's still giving me the same problems with loki-doki.
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It only works if you have mdl firmware and not on safe strap
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jd1639 said:
It only works if you have mdl firmware and not on safe strap
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Guh. Well ****. They should make that more obvious in the OP.. saw no mention of either of those being an issue..
Any similar roms that still have TouchWiz or should I just roll back to OTA 4.4.2?

Rhymey said:
Guh. Well ****. They should make that more obvious in the OP.. saw no mention of either of those being an issue..
Any similar roms that still have TouchWiz or should I just roll back to OTA 4.4.2?
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Start here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49562527
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So will it ever be possible to flash AOSP ROMs on NB1?

Not until the bootloader is unlocked. There is no telling when that will be.
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Best bet is to find a ROM that you like, then install the Google Experience Launcher apk. It will give your phone the stock google launcher.
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Domination Theme will also extensively theme your touchwiz rom to give it a more complete AOSP look without an AOSP rom.

All right thanks for the help guys.

[Q] Phone refuses to boot with a rom

Hi, I've been trying to install a custom rom (at this point ANY custom rom) on my friend's phone. I have worked on several phones before, including my own sprint GS3, but this is my first time trying to work around a locked bootloader, and BOY is it a pain, haha. I'm no dev, but I would like to think that I'm pretty competent.
First a few things to note, are that the phone is currently on NI1 (Been too much of a sissy to go to NJ4 in case it screws something up, I don't even know why), it is the 16Gb version, I am using an external sd card to flash everything, and yes I am flashing loki-doki after everything.
So what I've done so far is:
- Try to install TWRP
- Find out that won't work and finally figure out I need safestrap
- Successfully install safestrap after using towelroot by ODIN-ing the NC1 kernel then going back to the NI1 kernel
- Try to flash Resurrection Remix and KToonsez kernel using a new rom-slot, and wind up soft-bricking (stuck on bootloader screen, can get to download mode)
- ODIN NB1 tar then ODIN NI1 update
- Repeat the last few steps several times because I'm too idiotic to realize that it JUST ISN'T GOING TO WORK!
- Finally find a reference to flashing the ATT kernel modules after the rom. That got me past the soft brick and safestrap screen, but I don't even see a boot animation
As of right now my sequence to successfully not soft-bricking (what an accomplishment) is to flash the rom>gapps>ATT kernel module>supersu>loki-doki>wipe dalvik/cache
Now, is it worth it having already spend a good 7 hours, just to get a custom rom? Of course not, it's not my phone and my friend isn't picky. He'd be just fine with rooted TW. However, It kills me that I don't know what's going on, so here I am lol.
TL;DR: Phone has safestrap, is rooted, but any time I flash a rom it gets past the boot loader/safestrap screen and never shows a boot animation, or anything past that. Can anyone help figure out what's going on please?
Thanks in advance.

You can only flash touch wiz based roms with safestrap and you can't flash kernels with safestrap. That's been your problem with soft bricking.
Edit, see this for roms you can flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53758227
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616221

Thanks guys. I thought I read through the whole thread, but there is so much information, it's pretty scattered, I must have missed the thing about only TW roms working.
Now a few more questions:
1) Is it worth updating to NJ4? The phone is new and doesn't have any app data or anything that would be missed by updating. I see quite a few roms in 4.4.4, but it looks like most of them are AOSP based, which leads me to my next question...
2) Is there a way to get AOSP roms to work? I see all of these AOSP based roms, obviously for this phone, but it would be pointless to make them if they don't work.

Masterjuggler said:
Thanks guys. I thought I read through the whole thread, but there is so much information, it's pretty scattered, I must have missed the thing about only TW roms working.
Now a few more questions:
1) Is it worth updating to NJ4? The phone is new and doesn't have any app data or anything that would be missed by updating. I see quite a few roms in 4.4.4, but it looks like most of them are AOSP based, which leads me to my next question...
2) Is there a way to get AOSP roms to work? I see all of these AOSP based roms, obviously for this phone, but it would be pointless to make them if they don't work.
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It wouldn't hurt to update to nj4. But it's not going to help you either. Only phones on mdb or mdl bootloader can flash non touch wiz based roms using loki. And you can't go back to those bootloaders
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Alright then. Hyperdrive looks pretty good, I'll try that along with Ktoonsez kernel. I'll report back later to let you know how it goes. Thanks again!

Masterjuggler said:
Alright then. Hyperdrive looks pretty good, I'll try that along with Ktoonsez kernel. I'll report back later to let you know how it goes. Thanks again!
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Again, you can't flash a kernel in safestrap
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Oh, I get it now. That didn't quite register before. So just to confirm, after I flash the rom (which already has its own custom kernel included), I still need to flash the stock ATT kernel, correct?

Flash the rom, super su, and the att module for your base. Hyperdrive is a very good rom, good luck. Also the rom doesn't include a kernel, your original kernel stays put. That's why only tw roms work, because your new rom has to be compatible with the kernel already on your phone.

Just reporting in, I now have the phone up and running using Hyperdrive Rom. Thanks for the help!
I actually had a problem where it would not shut down correctly, but found out it was because I was installing the rom in a rom-slot in safestrap. As soon as I tried the stock rom slot, it worked flawlessly.