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[Discussion]Note 3, Will get Unbreakable flexible screen(but no Full HD) Updated!

This is an article Posted on 23 Apr 2013 at 09:47, by Gareth Halfacree -> HERE
Given the choice would you take the flexible low resolution (shock resistant) screen or the Glass high resolution(more fragile)?
Galaxy Note 3 may launch with flexible display according to OLED Association
Samsung's upcoming Galaxy Note 3 will apparently launch with a flexible display, providing a reduction in thickness as well as significant protection against impacts.
Samsung's top-end smartphones have long used organic light-emitting diode (OLED) displays, which provide a higher level of contrast and lower power draw than traditional liquid-crystal displays. OLED displays work without a backlight, with each pixel emitting its own light.
For some years, the company has been working on flexible and transparent display technologies. It showed off a plastic-based flexible liquid-crystal display as far back as 2005, promising that commercial applications would be seen very shortly. Sadly, the leap never happened: Samsung's products continue to use AMOLED displays protected by toughened glass, which can shatter if hit hard enough or at the right angle.
Rumours that the Galaxy Note 3, the company's upcoming phablet device, would be the first to include a flexible display have been given weight by the OLED Association, which has suggested the device will launch with a 5.9in or larger plastic-based OLED display. Compared to the company's glass-backed technology, as found in the current-generation Galaxy Note 2, the site believes that the plastic version could knock almost 1.5 millimetres off the thickness of the device, as well as reducing its weight.
One of the biggest advantages to the plastic-backed display technology is its flexibility: while the entire smartphone won't bend, the screen will be able to deform to better absorb impacts. This means the device should be able to withstand being dropped from a height that would shatter the glass of the Galaxy Note 2 without difficulty.
The OLED Association does warn that there could be a trade-off in the use of a plastic display, however: resolution. The current trend is towards offering Full HD 1,080x1,920 resolution displays in smartphones and tablets, but the site says it is unlikely that Samsung would be able to mass-produce a plastic-backed display at these resolutions by the time the Galaxy Note 3 launches towards the end of the year. As a result, it's possible that the Galaxy Note 3 will launch with a lower resolution - or be available with a plastic display in some regions and a glass display in others, splitting the market in a similar manner to its Galaxy S4 which ships with a quad-core chip in the UK and with an eight-core Exynos 5 Octa elsewhere.
Samsung, for its part, has refused to comment on the rumours, but with the Galaxy Note 3 expected to launch before the year is out fans of the company's Note range shouldn't have long to wait.
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Edit: It is now confirmed! (Thanks to Tuxonhtc)
The First Flexible AMOLED Display to be launched in Q4’2013
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Glass! I don't really mind that bit of inconvenience. I hope they release a non Note line to perform their experimentation on and when they perfect it, they can bring it to the main Note/Galaxy line. I don't mind the glass at all, hope the develop a method to implement 1080p RGB SAMOLED on Note III, that'd kick ass.

I am pretty comfortable with 720p, right now I don't want more resolution but faster performance for games, going to 1080 will kill that and we will have the same or worse than in note 2.
720p for me without pentile it is more than enough. I see 1080p as a marketing tool rather than a useful feature.

This reminds me of old resistive plastic screens when they would get very easily scratched, Thank you very much but no I will never buy a phone with plastic screen I like the smooth touch feeling of the glass and will stick with it.

I dont think is likely since we are going to use a pen. And the pressure at the tip of the pen is very high compared to a finger and most likely to easely scratch a plastic screen over a short time period plus that i cant imagine drawing on a soft screen would be a pleasant experience
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http://oled-a.org/news_details.cfm?ID=783
Confirmed, Note III is going to have flexible OLED display.

tuxonhtc said:
http://oled-a.org/news_details.cfm?ID=783
Confirmed, Note III is going to have flexible OLED display.
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Interesting, I don't know if I should be happy or not.
They won't be able to produce enough flexible OLED for everybody so they will have to split the market.
Does this mean the Flexible OLED version phones will have bigger battery?

Flexible OLEDs will consume less battery, surely? But I won't be terribly happy to go back to those 2100 mA batteries just because it's power efficient to be honest. If the market is split, I would gladly go for non plastic OLED if it has larger battery and large screen.

Will I think no one will notes the changes between the two screens only the power consumed and the power of taking hits on it ... the feel will be the same ad thy both have yhe same finishing ..
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tuxonhtc said:
Flexible OLEDs will consume less battery, surely? But I won't be terribly happy to go back to those 2100 mA batteries just because it's power efficient to be honest. If the market is split, I would gladly go for non plastic OLED if it has larger battery and large screen.
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Look at the picture, the battery will be bigger. Since the screen is so much thinner there is more place for the battery AND the screen consumes less battery so the battery life should(in theory) be much better.:laugh:

I don't care all that much about going to 1080p as 720p is already VERY good, I don't care at all about getting some extra bit of battery as the present one is already pretty good and I use extra batteries and NEVER charge the phone anyway, I do care about a lighter and tougher smartphone BUT the main point of these rumors are for me the screen dimensions: I am really, REALLY hoping that it won't be just 5.9" (especially seeing that the Mega is coming out with a 6.3" display which would be an IDEAL size for me).
Although I don't see them doing so, it would be perfect if they offered a 5.8" and a 6.3" Note III as they are doing with the Mega...

Damn you Samsung. I didn't want to upgrade this year. Now it's gonna be a whole lot harder to resist the urge.
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Seriously people don't have anything else to do than just editing their build.prop(s) ,but the top result looks interesting ,more likely to be another fake though.

I'm late to this discussion, but ... I just don't understand what all the excitement is over flexible screens. Aside from being THEORETICALLY harder to break, what's the advantage? Even if the screen is flexible, the rest of the phone ain't! The frame, the case, the circuit board, the battery -- none of those are gonna flex, so what's all the excitement about? It's just another marketing gimmick, if you ask me.
Gimme 1020p and I don't care whether the screen is flexible or not.
mudge

iCurmudgeon said:
I'm late to this discussion, but ... I just don't understand what all the excitement is over flexible screens. Aside from being THEORETICALLY harder to break, what's the advantage? Even if the screen is flexible, the rest of the phone ain't! The frame, the case, the circuit board, the battery -- none of those are gonna flex, so what's all the excitement about? It's just another marketing gimmick, if you ask me.
Gimme 1020p and I don't care whether the screen is flexible or not.
mudge
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Well besides the fact that a replacement screen is costly and having a unbreakable screen is very useful, another HUGE advantage of the flexible screen(too bad you didn't read before posting) is the thickness. The flexible screen is 1.5mm thinner than the already thin glass OLED allowing for more room for a bigger battery in a same size phone.

Note 3 will be announced around July/August, and the screen says Q4. Doesn't make any sense.

jujuburi said:
Note 3 will be announced around July/August, and the screen says Q4. Doesn't make any sense.
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Actually the announced date have been changed since the OP. It was originally set for September but recent rumors is setting it for mid-summer.

No way midsummer....they have to ride the S4 sales ride out...

I doubt they would let this debut on a flagship, it would spell their doom if this is in any way imperfect.
They would probably introduce this on another phone, and depending on it's reception implement it in their future devices.
Like the Samsung beam, not every needs these features.
It could go the way of 3D on phones

How is THAT screen?

I created this thread specifically for all the members to talk about the new 2k screen of the LG G3. The screen is the most important feature of the LG G3 and it is what LG brags about the most. For many of us including me, the screen will be the deciding factor of whether we buy the phone or not.How does the new 2k display panel perform in real life situations compared to other high end phone display panels like the Galaxy S5 or HTC One M8? Let's have a nice dedicated thread to the most important feature on this phone.
Ideas to talk about:
•Contrast levels
•How your content looks on it
•Your thoughts of it compared to the previous display you had.
•Any weird issues? (Screen interlacing, ghost issues)
•Color production
•Do you find it nice and worthwhile?
•How are those BLACK LEVELS (Important!)
•Any heat issues with the screen?
•Good high and low brightness levels?

All of the above... Thinking of upgrading from a nexus 5...
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I have seen a couple of reviews that say the max brightness is quite dim. Can someone who owns one confirm if this is true?
The G2 has the best display I have ever had and I don't want to downgrade to a duller screen (I am not bothered about the high res as the G2 has enough res. I want bright and vibrant!

Spewy1 said:
I have seen a couple of reviews that say the max brightness is quite dim. Can someone who owns one confirm if this is true?
The G2 has the best display I have ever had and I don't want to downgrade to a duller screen (I am not bothered about the high res as the G2 has enough res. I want bright and vibrant!
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Go to s5 ^^ it's too bright and too vibrant :laugh: (^^)

And ffs please, reviewers, don't simply declare that you can't distinguish individual pixels on 1080p as well as 2k and then conclude from that that the extra resolution doesn't make a difference. The question is: how do you subjectively experience visual items in 2k vs. 1080p--images, text, UI items, etc.. Past 325 dpi, a pixel is not an item, so it's irrelevant that you can't see one. Tons of those online reviews provide what the reviewer thinks their impression of the screen must be instead of the reviewer providing their true impression.

Canard caché said:
Go to s5 ^^ it's too bright and too vibrant :laugh: (^^)
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I don't like the s5. Various reasons but mainly the cover over the charging port and overall design.
I love my g2 but need more memory (64gb minimum). I am worried about the screen on the g3 but the reviewers all focus on the resolution but I want to hear from real users about the real world experience of the screen.
Many thanks in advance for any input from owners of the phone.

Great Arstechica review as usual
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/06/lg-g3-review-a-great-phone-with-way-too-many-pixels/

That cover on the S5 (my wife has one), is for water proofing and easily ripped off.
Personally, I could use a screen with less pixels and longer screen-on time. I consider the screen resolution to be a minus. My preference is less pixels and make it a 6", like the HTC One Max I just returned after a week.

liqn7 said:
Great Arstechica review as usual
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/06/lg-g3-review-a-great-phone-with-way-too-many-pixels/
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Can't agree with you there. They did the same move as all the other reviewers where they presume that the inability to distinguish individual pixels automatically means people can't see any overall difference in image quality:
Even at point-blank range, it's hard to resolve a single pixel. 1080p screens are also beautiful, though, and when looking at the two, side-by-side, we aren't convinced the jump to 1440p is necessary. More pixels only matter if you can see them, and on a ~5-inch device, it's almost impossible to tell the difference between a 1080p screen and the 1440p screen of the G3.
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That's why I asked above that any reviewers here avoid that particular groupthink and tell us how they actually experience 2k vs. 1080p.

Jimmy34742 said:
Can't agree with you there. They did the same move as all the other reviewers where they presume that the inability to distinguish individual pixels automatically means people can't see any overall difference in image quality:
That's why I asked above that any reviewers here avoid that particular groupthink and tell us how they actually experience 2k vs. 1080p.
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I think the most important caveat is that hardly any apps will be optimized for 2k display when the phone finally arrives.
HAving said that, kind of hard to judge don't you think?

Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that

hamad138 said:
Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that
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How can you?

theraker007 said:
I think the most important caveat is that hardly any apps will be optimized for 2k display when the phone finally arrives.
HAving said that, kind of hard to judge don't you think?
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That's logical. But so is the idea that the human eye can't distinguish pixels at a density greater than 326dpi. So, yeah, it comes down to subjective judgment calls. In that case, I'm interested in the subjective point of view of people who actually have one of these devices and their actual experience. We already know how do deduce logically what everyone's experience must be, and all the reviews I've read only do that. Images and text may appear sharper at a given distance from the eye in a way unrelated to whether or not you can distinguish an individual pixel.

The LG G3 has the best smartphone display I've seen: It's sharp, but it's also bright and has great color. The colors don't pop quite as much as on some of the better SuperAMOLED screens I've seen (such as on the just-announced Samsung Galaxy Tab S), but the sharpness is off the charts.
Comparing the G3's display to the one on the HTC One M8 (my current favorite Android phone), I felt the LG's was just as sharp, and a few details — such as drop shadows in Evernote — stood out slightly more. And even though colors weren't as vivid as on the HTC, the G3 had more natural skin tones
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From Mashable's review. Everyone's eyes are different I guess.
Contrast was superb. Black text on white background — one of the most essential things a smartphone, or any display, needs to get right — really stood out. The ultra-sharp characters nearly jumped off the screen, and I couldn't discern individual pixels, no matter how close I put my eye to the screen.
So the LG G3's Quad HD display is more than just hype. But only a bit. There's nothing wrong with the HTC One M8's screen — or the Samsung Galaxy S5's or the iPhone 5S's for that matter. They're still mighty sharp, and can display great images, just not quite as sharply or as impressively as the LG G3.
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hamad138 said:
Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that
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I truly hope that the screen is great on this phone but I can't wait any longer and have just ordered an S5. I have waited for all the flagships to come out this year and was truly hoping that the G3 would be the one. Two of the most important things to me are brightness and battery life and I'm worried that with the G3 I would end up having the brightness cranked all the time and would have poor battery life as a result. Really wanted to try LG this time but lost my nerve
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hamad138 said:
Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that
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Seriously? Those are much more important then resolution to improve upon.

helikido said:
Seriously? Those are much more important then resolution to improve upon.
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yes but not for marketing.

I'm most concerned with the viewing angles, black levels, contrast, and color accuracy. I'm definitely getting the G3 but I really don't want to have to play the panel lottery. I'd prefer a warmer display over a cooler display - as long as it's not noticeably pink/green/blue, I'm fine. A slight yellow/orange tint is okay, but obviously a calibrated display would be the best. My black Nexus 5's viewing angles aren't great, with the screen washing out at 30+ degree angle. My buddy's white Nexus 5 seems to have better viewing angles, so I'm not sure what the deal is. I'm pretty confident in LG's ability to produce good displays -- they pretty much made this phone just to show off their new display.

Actually, I'm now concerned about the narrowness of the bezel. Yes, it's a cool feature, and everyone dreams of a bezel-less phone, but I already have problems due to the narrowness of my S4's bezel. When I'm holding my phone for an extended time, referring to notes while speaking to people, my grip often gets interpreted by the system as a touch and hold. That pops up a dialog that I have to dismiss, and it's really obtrusive in real time situations. Sure, I could be more careful, but it's just too easy to make that problem happen during normal usage. It's not like I have big fat hands or a weird grip or anything. I've already been thinking that when we finally get bezel-free phones, there will have to be utilities to create a non-reactive border of pixels in a user-specified width, or else the user will accidentally be popping things up all over the place. At present, though, I think the G3's large size and tiny bezel are actually going to make it difficult to use the way I want to use it even though it's hardly bigger than my S4. You never know until you actually use it for a few days and try to adapt, but there's no way to do that without buying it, which I'm now hesitant to do.

You're holding it wrong ☺
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Issues (and fixes) you have found in Xperia Z3 Compact

Obviously I don't have the device yet, but I am seriously considering it and searched for every one's experiences and reviews here and there and so far I have found these issues:
In this video showing the gaming experience, the device obviously lags and drops frames to the point o being unplayable when you play the GTA San Andreas with the maximum graphic settings, which is odd considering the chipset and the lower resolution it pushes versus other 801/Adreno 330 devices : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubC1e0ScghU
Tommy-Geenexus said:
GTA isn't very optimized. You can't play it with full graphics on any mobile phone lagfree.
Also the Z3c got a new fw certified, so the guy in the video runs the game on a pre-release firmware.
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The other one is the quality and loudness of the headphone output which is quite poor if we compare it based on the phonearena audio benchmarks: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/benchmarks
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it is rated way low. In fact all Z series devices seem to be lacking power in headphone output and are no where to be find at the top, it may be the result of water/dust proofing the device, but I don't know for sure. (Though the loudspeaker is pretty good.)
premneo said:
no LTE band 12, for t-mobiles new 700mhz band.
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fez_m said:
I got my black Z3C this morning in the post.... had to send it back, it looked like the top port cover doesn't shut properly and comes undone way too easy.
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zanbay said:
When you look at the screen closely there are horizonal stripes.
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showstopper03 said:
1. The vibration strength is EXTREMELY weak.
2. The front facing "stereo" speakers..... Honestly they suck.
3.The z3c is no where near as comfortable as the moto x is to hold. Now i'm not saying the z3c is uncomfortable by any stretch. It's just that the moto x IS just that nice in the hand for me.
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stormbeta said:
- The flat back is uncomfortable and makes it easy to drop the phone, especially coming from my Moto X / Moto G which were very comfortable to hold.
- The screen is brighter and easier to read in daylight than my Moto X, but the viewing angles are pretty bad, especially at diagonals to the screen rectangle (the colors wash out very badly in this case). It's tolerable, but my Moto X's screen was definitely better.
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Notchr302 said:
I'm a little worried about screen rigidity. After reading the other post about pressing the screen and seeing a rainbow and then seeing a YouTube video about a popping sound when you press on the screen.
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ISSUES THAT I NEED RESOLUTION FOR:
1. cannot write directly to my sd card from an external pen drive - why why why? especially when the internal memory is only 16gb
2. 3rd party toggle for mobile data doesn't work - only the one in the highly inconvenient right side notification bar (have since overcome that using Notification Toggle app)
3. Need a faster charger - just wondering if the Samsung 2Amp charger will actually charge it quicker than the supplied 1.5A one?
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Evangion said:
I solved my laggy keyboards by clearing the cache of each and every keyboard app I have. Works fine now! Silly me.
On another issue, does anybody hear a faint "60-cycle hum" when your earphones/headphones are plugged in? Its only very pronounced on the right though.
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qwerty147 said:
This could be caused by SmartConnect, I found a fix in the Sony forum (Can't paste the link):
This removed the strange 3 second hum. I've disabled SmartConnect for now ...
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Any one feel free to add to this list if you find the device lacking or problematic in any way (before or after the purchase).

Po0yAn said:
Obviously I don't have the device yet, but I am seriously considering it and searched for every one's experiences and reviews here and there and so far I have found two issues:
In this video showing the gaming experience, the device obviously lags and drops frames to the point o being unplayable when you play the GTA San Andreas with the maximum graphic settings, which is odd considering the chipset and the lower resolution it pushes versus other 801/Adreno 330 devices : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubC1e0ScghU
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I wouldn't say it's 'unplayable', but I get your point. I suppose if you absolutely have to play games on ultra max settings, that would be an issue. I think most people would be willing to turn it down a notch and get good performance though.
[*]The other one is the quality and loudness of the headphone output which is quite poor if we compare it based on the phonearena audio benchmarks: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/benchmarks
it is rated way low. In fact all Z series devices seem to be lacking power in headphone output and are no where to be find at the top, it may be the result of water/dust proofing the device, but I don't know for sure. (Though the loudspeaker is pretty good.)
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I have a Moto X (2013). The speaker is loud, but at the highest two or three levels, the speakers distorts a lot, and I physically feel my phone vibrating. It doesn't distort with headphones in though tbf. Personally, I'll take slightly less volume for better quality. You can also always use an app like Equalizer to increase volume.
Any one feel free to add to this list if you find the device lacking or problematic in any way (before or after the purchase).
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I order one form my wife and I this morning. Neither one of these things concern me. My biggest concern is the durability of the glass. This will be my first phone with glass on the front and back. It's Gorilla Glass 3 on both sides correct? I know it's not indestructible though. And I don't like the low panorama settings on the camera. Other than that I'm good to go.

I think its dragontrail glass which is another equivalent of gorilla glass. I don't think there will be much difference.

GTA isn't very optimized. You can't play it with full graphics on any mobile phone lagfree.
Also the Z3c got a new fw certified, so the guy in the video runs the game on a pre-release firmware.

no LTE band 12, for t-mobiles new 700mhz band.

techguyone said:
I think its dragontrail glass which is another equivalent of gorilla glass. I don't think there will be much difference.
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I myself have been very impressed with the glass on my Xperia Acro S, I've had it for about a year and a half now, never used a screen protector or case and I work as a landscaper so the phone has been in my pocket unprotected along with sand, dust and other debris and it only has one very small scratch which is quite difficult to notice, and maybe a dozen of even harder to notice micro scratches. I've also dropped the phone several times on very hard floors and it there are only a few rough spots on the chrome-like rim. But the display glass still looks like new, unless you hold it directly under a very strong light right after thoroughly cleaning the glass. It has dragontrail glass I think. Though the glass sits slightly deeper than the frame, which helps. I think with the Z3C, the glass is level with or ever so slightly raised above the frame.

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[*]The other one is the quality and loudness of the headphone output which is quite poor if we compare it based on the phonearena audio benchmarks: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/benchmarks
it is rated way low. In fact all Z series devices seem to be lacking power in headphone output and are no where to be find at the top, it may be the result of water/dust proofing the device, but I don't know for sure. (Though the loudspeaker is pretty good.)
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Volume level easily fixed after root. My Z1C with volume mod and V4A is the best-sounding mobile device I've ever owned, so expect similar quality from the new lineup

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Volume level easily fixed after root. My Z1C with volume mod and V4A is the best-sounding mobile device I've ever owned, so expect similar quality from the new lineup
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How is the Z1C with the V4A? I'm using VV4A with my XZ, but there are so many hiccups that it's almost impossible to listen to music (Unless I edit some things)

Dsteppa said:
How is the Z1C with the V4A? I'm using VV4A with my XZ, but there are so many hiccups that it's almost impossible to listen to music (Unless I edit some things)
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Sounds lovely, nice deep base with lots of detail in the mid-high also
Sorry can't help with your issues, my only advice would be to disable all the V4A features in settings and re-enable one by one.

geronimoid said:
Sounds lovely, nice deep base with lots of detail in the mid-high also
Sorry can't help with your issues, my only advice would be to disable all the V4A features in settings and re-enable one by one.
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I didn't meant how it was sounding, but if you had any technical problems or so
And it's not a V4A issue, many people have the same problem, even without V4A
Oh well, that will be history soon!!!:laugh::victory:

The only thing holding me back from buying the z3C is that the screen is not Full HD... I have the HTC One M7 now and it's just such a lovely screen... Please convince me otherwise...!

Foxhunter123 said:
The only thing holding me back from buying the z3C is that the screen is not Full HD... I have the HTC One M7 now and it's just such a lovely screen... Please convince me otherwise...!
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Unless you are holding the phone flat against your face or use it under a magnifying glass, you won't see the difference.
Additionally, 720p HD improves performance and battery life compared to full-HD.
Also, with full-HD on a screen of this size, interface elements and buttons in some apps and games would be so tiny that they'd be practically unusable.

Foxhunter123 said:
The only thing holding me back from buying the z3C is that the screen is not Full HD... I have the HTC One M7 now and it's just such a lovely screen... Please convince me otherwise...!
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http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/mobile-phones/1401457/sony-xperia-z3-compact-review
20 hrs video playback at 50% brightness thanks to the 720p screen. Convinced?
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Foxhunter123 said:
The only thing holding me back from buying the z3C is that the screen is not Full HD... I have the HTC One M7 now and it's just such a lovely screen... Please convince me otherwise...!
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it's just like @ degraaff said. You're falling for the gimmick, you really won't see the difference AT ALL! If the phone had a full HD screen, it would only make the phone worse and not better.

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it's just like @ degraaff said. You're falling for the gimmick, you really won't see the difference AT ALL! If the phone had a full HD screen, it would only make the phone worse and not better.
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I notice that my husband's Galaxy has a prettier screen than my Moto X. Mind you, I'm perfectlyhappy with the screen on the Moto X, but sid by side, te difference is obvious.

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I notice that my husband's Galaxy has a prettier screen than my Moto X. Mind you, I'm perfectlyhappy with the screen on the Moto X, but sid by side, te difference is obvious.
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Which Galaxy? There are so many. Are you sure you aren't talking about better colors? Samsung tends to use AMOLED screens, which have those very deep blacks and over-saturated colours.

720p + battery >> 1080p

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Which Galaxy? There are so many. Are you sure you aren't talking about better colors? Samsung tends to use AMOLED screens, which have those very deep blacks and over-saturated colours.
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I think it's the s3. And yes, the colors are much more vibrant. But it is also a larger screen, and it looks sharper.

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I think it's the s3. And yes, the colors are much more vibrant. But it is also a larger screen, and it looks sharper.
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The Moto X screen was rated pretty average for the previous generation so I'm not too surprised that the S3 looks better. Also the S3 has the same resolution as the X so resolution plays no part in the comparision.

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I think it's the s3. And yes, the colors are much more vibrant. But it is also a larger screen, and it looks sharper.
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Motorola Moto X: 4.7 inch, 1280 x 720 pixels
Samsung Galaxy s3: 4.8 inch, 1280 x 720 pixels
Both have the same resolution - the same as Xperia Z3 Compact - and none of them are full-HD.
The Galaxy S3 uses a pentile AMOLED panel, which are known for having less sharpness than TN or IPS with the same resolution. So I don't know what is going on with the phones of you and your husband. Logic tells me the Moto X should have a sharper display than the Galaxy S3.

Ugly and boring

I love the look of my G4 with the leather. It stands out among all the Galaxy and iPhones.
Now the G5 looks too much like those phones... and the non black chin on the front is ugly af.
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Also, I hate that they took the volume keys off the back. They worked great there in my opinion and made things like taking a screenshot one handed super easy.
Oh well, hopefully they either make the battery non-removable and/or not include an sd card option. That would effectively kill this phone as a choice for me.

I've had the g2, g3, and currently using the g4. If the g5 looks like the leaked photos above, I'll pass by it. No way would I be interested in that ugly mofo.

Currently, my dream phone would be:
- LG G3 size (G4 got just too big enough to require my hand to do a shuffle to reach the top opposite corner)
- LG G4 leather backplate options (with the NFC/Qi wireless sticker that's like $10 on ebay)
- LG G3 bezels (G4 got bigger bezels, WTF?)
- Stainless steel instead of plastic chrome on the edges
- LG V10 fingerprint scanner and volume rockers all on the back
- LG G4 camera quality
- USB-C for the rare occasion you want to transfer large files fast or charge it faster than Qi.
- Much more powerful IR blaster
- Swappable battery and microSD card, of course (like all previous LG G's)
- Stock Android (not likely, but hey dreamphone)

Only LG could make a superior metal phone look more like plastic than anyone else. The G3 looks more metallic than this thing.

Very sad design.

Really the back side doesn't bother me much since I will have a case. The only part that I don't like about the front is that big chin on the bottom (although the black version looks way better than this silver version.) I am curious though since that piece is removable if LG or a third party could make a replacement for it that would be more sleek and not so big. I think that would improve its look a lot.

Looks like a Nexus 6p,iPhone 6 plus design languange.
I cant believe how many OEMs are copying the boring design of the iphone.
HTC, Sony, LG , Huawei and even samsung.
Seriously, it isnt that good.Its bland and has nothing going for it
For proof, check the "latest" flagships of these OEMs And let me not even start with planned obsolecence of the removable battery...

shadowcore said:
Looks like a Nexus 6p,iPhone 6 plus design languange.
I cant believe how many OEMs are copying the boring design of the iphone.
HTC, Sony, LG , Huawei and even samsung.
Seriously, it isnt that good.Its bland and has nothing going for it
For proof, check the "latest" flagships of these OEMs And let me not even start with planned obsolecence of the removable battery...
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i don't see anything common in design with the iphone 6plus or nexus 6p
LG took the design from the nexus 5x

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i don't see anything common in design with the iphone 6plus or nexus 6p
LG took the design from the nexus 5x
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"Visor", rounded shape similar to iphone 6 and jumpin g to the inferior material of aluminium, etc.

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"Visor", rounded shape similar to iphone 6 and jumpin g to the inferior material of aluminium, etc.
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Lol, why didn't you say iphone copied everything you just listed from HTC?

The camera bump thing reminds me of the Xiaomi Mi2S with a custom back cover that I have seen for it...

I really hope this is a prototype cause that is fugly as hell.

Why do you care so much what it looks like? So long as it does the job I would be happy. My main beef is no upgrade in internal storage from 32G. Yes i have a 128GB microSD card, but many apps dont let you transfer all to the card. needs 128GB internal to future proof it ( but that would mean no need to upgrade for a long time! not good marketing!) Dont like metal, too heavy and shocks the phone if dropped, more likely to crack the screen. If it keeps the FM radio, microSD expansion slot and removeable battery, which the others dont have all of, it will still be the stand out phone.

All will be revealed tomorrow I guess. Can't wait for the G6 though

Im using the G4, I love the curved display and the leather backcover, thats what i miss.

I got nothing but disappointment for this 5th iteration of the G series. Like several before said this phone is God awful ugly. There should at least be a black option. The colors are all too pastel. Perfect for some women...but nothing about the curves or design speaks to me. Not pleased about moving the volume rockers to the side. Lord only knows how much extra all those extra attachments will cost. I don't keep phones long enough to invest in cases and accessories anyway. I like my phones naked better. I love my V 10 maybe they won't muck that up too much! The next V just need the internals updated and that's all!!!

I think the design looks great. But end of the day, do we really care what a phone looks like? Id rather we went back to soft touch plastic than metal or glass. Most of us just put a plastic case over our phones anyways.
I left Android for 6 Plus after using it exclusively since 2010 or so. The G5 is the first Android phone that is compelling enough for me to consider switching back. The modular design to me is groundbreaking. I'm a big audio guy, so I'd definitely buy the DAC. Who knows what other cool accessories they'll make for it. LG deserves major praise for being the first brand to figure out how to design a metal unibody phone with a removable battery.

I felt this way. Then I kept watching hands on videos. Your mind will change. This phone looks very nice IN HAND

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I felt this way. Then I kept watching hands on videos. Your mind will change. This phone looks very nice IN HAND
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exactly what I thought but a nice dbrand skin on the back with a red circle around the fingerprint scanner and a red trim around the cams and it looks nice I will be going for the dark gray version(or whatever they call it) with a black carbon skin and red carbon trim so that it matches my audiotechnica m50x mkbhd skin and the interior of my car and even my desk that has red lights on the back the front looks almost exactly as my lg g3 only bigger forehead

Huge bezels, no app drawer, smaller battery, smaller screen but bigger phone, ugly mofo and again HUGE bezels!!!! Such a disappointment. Absolutely love my G3, it looks better than G5 and has bigger battery and bigger screen with tiny bezels and the phone is still smaller. After Samsung dropped SD card and removable battery I said id never go back to Samsung. But they have bought back SD card support and to be honest I've never once needed to replace the battery on any of my phones so I don't mind the non removable battery especially since s7 edge has a HUGE 3600 mAH. The S7 edge has a bigger screen but phone is smaller and this time it is properly waterproof ip68 with no flaps! and from early camera tests, it has the best camera. Really disappointed with LG so going back to Samsung this time round.

Best Buy has em on display

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Go look it's pretty cool

How does it feel using it? Give feedback guys..

CLARiiON said:
How does it feel using it? Give feedback guys..
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I was there today and they had a demo with no straps or anything on it, it was an edge.
It is a lot smaller than it feels and it is light. It really is a pleasure to hold.
The focus is everything they claim it to be. No hunting, near instant focus. It will focus faster than you can, its crazy.
The edge goes down the sides a little more than the S6 edge, but since the back is sloped and they worked it the edge is not as sharp.

^what he said. Light to hold, one hand easy operation. Also was not red hot like the s6s on display
I really wanted to test the fingerprint security but they had it disabled in the menu

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^what he said. Light to hold, one hand easy operation.
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Can your thumb reach the notification menu?

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Can your thumb reach the notification menu?
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Yes, I had a note 4, went to iPhone by mistake 6splus ....so maybe I'm used to the reach. It was was easier to handle over the 6s plus. Smaller in physical size as well

Taking the Edge features out of the equation, how do you think the general usage of the S7 vs the S7 Edge compares? I'm curious about how web pages, pics, videos, etc. look on the curved screen vs the flat S7. Do you really notice the curve in normal use?
Seeing as how the Edge is not much bigger physically and only 5g heavier than the S7, but with a considerably larger screen and battery, I'm considering the Edge even though I initially had no interest. I love the size of my S4, and the S7 is very similar in size, which is good, but it also weighs almost an ounce more, which I don't like.

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Taking the Edge features out of the equation, how do you think the general usage of the S7 vs the S7 Edge compares? I'm curious about how web pages, pics, videos, etc. look on the curved screen vs the flat S7. Do you really notice the curve in normal use?
Seeing as how the Edge is not much bigger physically and only 5g heavier than the S7, but with a considerably larger screen and battery, I'm considering the Edge even though I initially had no interest. I love the size of my S4, and the S7 is very similar in size, which is good, but it also weighs almost an ounce more, which I don't like.
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I only looked at the 7 for a short time. The screen is not that much smaller and would probably work for most.
My 1st thought was that the curve of the edge would be like wasted screen space, but after seeing it, it is not.
Coming from note4 the it would be hard for me to go to a smaller screen. I used to use my laptop at home all the time. Since having a larger screen on the phone, the laptop only comes out when it needs to.

I still think that though it is beautiful and a technological marvel, the edge is a gimmick and a slight disadvantage over a flat screen for reading, pic movies etc

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I still think that though it is beautiful and a technological marvel, the edge is a gimmick and a slight disadvantage over a flat screen for reading, pic movies etc
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How so? I've nearly had the edge for a year now and never had any issues with reading or movie watching. In fact I feel as if the edge enhances the movie watching experience.

Thanks. After seeing a number of articles & videos about the Edge capabilities, they don't look like anything I'd ever use. I briefly had a Note 3 and a G4, which were both too large & unwieldy for me as a daily driver. The Edge isn't significantly bigger bigger or heavier than the S7, but sports a phablet sized screen, so I guess I'll have to check it out for screen usefulness & one-handed use. I really don't care at all what a phone looks like.

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I guess I'll have to check it out for screen usefulness & one-handed use. I really don't care at all what a phone looks like.
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I felt the same way even though I pre ordered yesterday. I was skeptical, but was on for about 20 minutes @ Best Buy and know I made the right choice. For me anyway

I wonder if all Best Buy's have the demos out. I could call before heading out. My local Best Buy doesn't seem have very much demo wise.

I went to Best Buy. Impressive devices. My gut feeling is that the standard S7 will end up being my choice. I'll probably pick up the Edge at T-Mobile a few months after release (I want to see how the ROMs shake out) and try it out for a week or two before deciding if it's too big. The size was borderline for me, and the size of my old Note 3 just felt worse to me the longer I used it, so I'll need to have the option to return it. The Edge is very tall - Note-level height - and one-handed usage was not good. (I'm a 5'-8" male with average sized or slightly smaller hands.) Much better one-handed than the Note 3 and G4, but it was pushing the limits of my hands. To me, the curved screen was a bit disconcerting, but was better than I expected it to be as far as seeming distorted. I definitely like flat screens better, but I think I could live with the Edge in that regard. The standard S7 was of course much closer in size to my S4, although it was a fair bit taller, as well. Not enough to be problematic, although I consider the top & bottom bezel size of both devices to be too large, especially coming from the very compact S4. Not Apple-level gigantism, but a bit disappointing. The weight of the S7 was also noticeably greater than the S4, another negative. But all in all the physical characteristics were pretty good.
They looked great. My battered S4 looks perfectly fine to me, so obviously I don't really care, but credit where it's due. They had black and silver versions in the store. The silver looked pretty cool, but was horrendous for fingerprints, whereas the black was much better in that regard. They were also less slippery in the hand than I thought they might be, which was great.
Camera was way beyond any phone I've ever tried. Actually, I've never used a digital camera that was as quick and clear as the S7. The screen quality and brightness are also the best I've ever seen.

all I wonder is, if the fingerprint scanner is improved, even slightly, in the 7.

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all I wonder is, if the fingerprint scanner is improved, even slightly, in the 7.
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I went to try it and the option is locked out of the display model. I would have deleted it but makes sense for them to disable it. Peeps be locking it and walk away
I hope it works good. It's the ONLY thing I like from the iPhone.

I found the fingerprint scanner the same way. I did enable Developer mode, but it wouldn't let me actually active it. Understandable.

Welp, looks like I will be headed to BB after work today.

yea iphone has that advantage over us. best fingerprint scanner in the market i'd say.

Just played with the edge at BB. I made a great choice. Its slim and feels good in your hand.
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