I created this thread specifically for all the members to talk about the new 2k screen of the LG G3. The screen is the most important feature of the LG G3 and it is what LG brags about the most. For many of us including me, the screen will be the deciding factor of whether we buy the phone or not.How does the new 2k display panel perform in real life situations compared to other high end phone display panels like the Galaxy S5 or HTC One M8? Let's have a nice dedicated thread to the most important feature on this phone.
Ideas to talk about:
•Contrast levels
•How your content looks on it
•Your thoughts of it compared to the previous display you had.
•Any weird issues? (Screen interlacing, ghost issues)
•Color production
•Do you find it nice and worthwhile?
•How are those BLACK LEVELS (Important!)
•Any heat issues with the screen?
•Good high and low brightness levels?
All of the above... Thinking of upgrading from a nexus 5...
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I have seen a couple of reviews that say the max brightness is quite dim. Can someone who owns one confirm if this is true?
The G2 has the best display I have ever had and I don't want to downgrade to a duller screen (I am not bothered about the high res as the G2 has enough res. I want bright and vibrant!
Spewy1 said:
I have seen a couple of reviews that say the max brightness is quite dim. Can someone who owns one confirm if this is true?
The G2 has the best display I have ever had and I don't want to downgrade to a duller screen (I am not bothered about the high res as the G2 has enough res. I want bright and vibrant!
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Go to s5 ^^ it's too bright and too vibrant :laugh: (^^)
And ffs please, reviewers, don't simply declare that you can't distinguish individual pixels on 1080p as well as 2k and then conclude from that that the extra resolution doesn't make a difference. The question is: how do you subjectively experience visual items in 2k vs. 1080p--images, text, UI items, etc.. Past 325 dpi, a pixel is not an item, so it's irrelevant that you can't see one. Tons of those online reviews provide what the reviewer thinks their impression of the screen must be instead of the reviewer providing their true impression.
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Go to s5 ^^ it's too bright and too vibrant :laugh: (^^)
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I don't like the s5. Various reasons but mainly the cover over the charging port and overall design.
I love my g2 but need more memory (64gb minimum). I am worried about the screen on the g3 but the reviewers all focus on the resolution but I want to hear from real users about the real world experience of the screen.
Many thanks in advance for any input from owners of the phone.
Great Arstechica review as usual
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/06/lg-g3-review-a-great-phone-with-way-too-many-pixels/
That cover on the S5 (my wife has one), is for water proofing and easily ripped off.
Personally, I could use a screen with less pixels and longer screen-on time. I consider the screen resolution to be a minus. My preference is less pixels and make it a 6", like the HTC One Max I just returned after a week.
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Great Arstechica review as usual
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/06/lg-g3-review-a-great-phone-with-way-too-many-pixels/
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Can't agree with you there. They did the same move as all the other reviewers where they presume that the inability to distinguish individual pixels automatically means people can't see any overall difference in image quality:
Even at point-blank range, it's hard to resolve a single pixel. 1080p screens are also beautiful, though, and when looking at the two, side-by-side, we aren't convinced the jump to 1440p is necessary. More pixels only matter if you can see them, and on a ~5-inch device, it's almost impossible to tell the difference between a 1080p screen and the 1440p screen of the G3.
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That's why I asked above that any reviewers here avoid that particular groupthink and tell us how they actually experience 2k vs. 1080p.
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Can't agree with you there. They did the same move as all the other reviewers where they presume that the inability to distinguish individual pixels automatically means people can't see any overall difference in image quality:
That's why I asked above that any reviewers here avoid that particular groupthink and tell us how they actually experience 2k vs. 1080p.
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I think the most important caveat is that hardly any apps will be optimized for 2k display when the phone finally arrives.
HAving said that, kind of hard to judge don't you think?
Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that
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Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that
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How can you?
theraker007 said:
I think the most important caveat is that hardly any apps will be optimized for 2k display when the phone finally arrives.
HAving said that, kind of hard to judge don't you think?
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That's logical. But so is the idea that the human eye can't distinguish pixels at a density greater than 326dpi. So, yeah, it comes down to subjective judgment calls. In that case, I'm interested in the subjective point of view of people who actually have one of these devices and their actual experience. We already know how do deduce logically what everyone's experience must be, and all the reviews I've read only do that. Images and text may appear sharper at a given distance from the eye in a way unrelated to whether or not you can distinguish an individual pixel.
The LG G3 has the best smartphone display I've seen: It's sharp, but it's also bright and has great color. The colors don't pop quite as much as on some of the better SuperAMOLED screens I've seen (such as on the just-announced Samsung Galaxy Tab S), but the sharpness is off the charts.
Comparing the G3's display to the one on the HTC One M8 (my current favorite Android phone), I felt the LG's was just as sharp, and a few details — such as drop shadows in Evernote — stood out slightly more. And even though colors weren't as vivid as on the HTC, the G3 had more natural skin tones
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From Mashable's review. Everyone's eyes are different I guess.
Contrast was superb. Black text on white background — one of the most essential things a smartphone, or any display, needs to get right — really stood out. The ultra-sharp characters nearly jumped off the screen, and I couldn't discern individual pixels, no matter how close I put my eye to the screen.
So the LG G3's Quad HD display is more than just hype. But only a bit. There's nothing wrong with the HTC One M8's screen — or the Samsung Galaxy S5's or the iPhone 5S's for that matter. They're still mighty sharp, and can display great images, just not quite as sharply or as impressively as the LG G3.
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hamad138 said:
Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that
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I truly hope that the screen is great on this phone but I can't wait any longer and have just ordered an S5. I have waited for all the flagships to come out this year and was truly hoping that the G3 would be the one. Two of the most important things to me are brightness and battery life and I'm worried that with the G3 I would end up having the brightness cranked all the time and would have poor battery life as a result. Really wanted to try LG this time but lost my nerve
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Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that
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Seriously? Those are much more important then resolution to improve upon.
helikido said:
Seriously? Those are much more important then resolution to improve upon.
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yes but not for marketing.
I'm most concerned with the viewing angles, black levels, contrast, and color accuracy. I'm definitely getting the G3 but I really don't want to have to play the panel lottery. I'd prefer a warmer display over a cooler display - as long as it's not noticeably pink/green/blue, I'm fine. A slight yellow/orange tint is okay, but obviously a calibrated display would be the best. My black Nexus 5's viewing angles aren't great, with the screen washing out at 30+ degree angle. My buddy's white Nexus 5 seems to have better viewing angles, so I'm not sure what the deal is. I'm pretty confident in LG's ability to produce good displays -- they pretty much made this phone just to show off their new display.
Actually, I'm now concerned about the narrowness of the bezel. Yes, it's a cool feature, and everyone dreams of a bezel-less phone, but I already have problems due to the narrowness of my S4's bezel. When I'm holding my phone for an extended time, referring to notes while speaking to people, my grip often gets interpreted by the system as a touch and hold. That pops up a dialog that I have to dismiss, and it's really obtrusive in real time situations. Sure, I could be more careful, but it's just too easy to make that problem happen during normal usage. It's not like I have big fat hands or a weird grip or anything. I've already been thinking that when we finally get bezel-free phones, there will have to be utilities to create a non-reactive border of pixels in a user-specified width, or else the user will accidentally be popping things up all over the place. At present, though, I think the G3's large size and tiny bezel are actually going to make it difficult to use the way I want to use it even though it's hardly bigger than my S4. You never know until you actually use it for a few days and try to adapt, but there's no way to do that without buying it, which I'm now hesitant to do.
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The comments hit the nail on the head from the Arstechnica article. It's not that it isn't 480x800 exactly but it's the way the color pixels are arranged. Effectively you still have 480x800 addressible pixels, but it's the underlying hardware that gets you that. Without actually having one in my hand to compare to the wife's 3GS I can't honestly say if the display is better or worse for the purposes of a phone.
What the article does round-about say is that it's geared for images not exactly text--basically how an AMOLED TV would be arranged. Thankfully I don't think we'll have the same issues like in the old days of text looking like complete crap on a TV (for those that remember plugging in a C64/Apple II into a TV.)
Point is, it doesn't matter how they do it, as long as in the end--to the apps and images seen on it--that it's using 480x800. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Its just a new technology, As long as 800x480 images show up as vibrantly and sharp as they do on the N1 I'm ok with it.
The possibility of driver tweaks to perfect it is icing on the cake.
I have OMNIA II and this Nexus One, both is AMOLED with 480x800 resolution.
I can confirmed is OMNIA II screen is definately better than Nexus One in term of clarity in details.
Just simply compared and you will notice image display in OMNIA II is much more sharpen and clear than Nexus One.
But not deny I believe Nexus One still is 480x800 just slightly low quality compared with AMOLED by Samsung.
But in overall, you still will definately satisfied on it with your Nexus One.
About the color banding issue, I believe Nexus One also same as OMNIA II running maybe 65k color or whatsoever, it is not 16M as you seen same color banding issue in both devices but it is ok as you can simply just reduce the banding in some image by changing the color dept from 16bit to 8bit (you can simply do this with PC IrfanView software). This will give you must better result, althought it is not perfect, always remember they is no perfect thing in this world.
the screen is 480x800
you can see that in the boot loader the size of the font ...........
in the apps and pic
this is just another .......... info
As long as my 960x800 wallpapers still work and look great, it doesn't really matter to me. The text has always been readable for me.
Wasn't everyone super satisfied with N1's display before this article was posted? or suddenly the display quality depreciated now???
Now on gizmodo.
Just comparing my Nexus with the Hero (soon to be on ebay).
And looking at the letter L for example (white on black in htc clock), the hero is indead 'clearer' when looking at the straight edges. It applies on other text with black on white as well.
This is not to confused with screen res. though. Since websites that would be 'fuzzy' and hard to read without zooming in on the Hero are perfectly readable on the Nexus.
Not quite sure if I understand the logic of that...
But the Nexus does have more information on the screen and so we pages are more readable while zoomed out.
Something to do wuth the way contasting edges merge ?
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The main picture in the article itself is hugely misguiding... he is comparing a icon created by nexus one screen with the one that was created by an emulator on large screen. if you zoom in you camera to pixel level, on your LCD, you will not see such pure white, grey or black squares.. they will be just like N1... bands of 3 colors, RGB. The only difference is the sequence of these 3 colors in LCD and N1.
Blue LEDs have less life than others and thus, pentile pattern in N1 is designed to reduce the dead pixel scenarios. All AMOLEDs use some pattern that is different from traditional LCD pattern. Therefore, fonts will always look bad on AMOLED until different font rendering techniques are developed. How bad? Well if you have been using Win XP on LCD and never had any problems with it... you will never know the difference. It wasn't until Vista that MS enabled by default the cleartype fonts which had special algorithms for LCDs.
We already have another thread on this matter. It might be better to merge them.
Another point of note.
It's not really noticable (perhaps just slightly) when looking from a normal operating distance, say 30cm from your eyes (no I didn't measure it).
Though you might bring the screen closer for some types of activity.
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Yes I can notice the lack of completely-straight lines (aka "fuzziness" or "bleeding") if I look closely at certain text like "l" or images with hard lines. It's not that big of a deal to me though because you really have to inspect the screen to see it, and issues that this is part of the risk when buying a phone with a newer screen technology.
I do think it's a little unfair though that the Nexus gets targeted so much when other phones that will sell more (like the Desire) are using the same screen.
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The main picture in the article itself is hugely misguiding... he is comparing a icon created by nexus one screen with the one that was created by an emulator on large screen. if you zoom in you camera to pixel level, on your LCD, you will not see such pure white, grey or black squares.. they will be just like N1... bands of 3 colors, RGB. The only difference is the sequence of these 3 colors in LCD and N1.
Blue LEDs have less life than others and thus, pentile pattern in N1 is designed to reduce the dead pixel scenarios. All AMOLEDs use some pattern that is different from traditional LCD pattern. Therefore, fonts will always look bad on AMOLED until different font rendering techniques are developed. How bad? Well if you have been using Win XP on LCD and never had any problems with it... you will never know the difference. It wasn't until Vista that MS enabled by default the cleartype fonts which had special algorithms for LCDs.
We already have another thread on this matter. It might be better to merge them.
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absolutely agree with you... over time when the text rendering and graphic rendering improves, you'll see that this "so-called issue" will disappear... just like cleartype & LCDs... this will be a problem on "EVERY" AMOLED display at this time... it's just the way this hardware has been designed... and the software is not exactly up-to-date when it comes to rendering... and yeah ppl, don't compare this to standard displays like the Hero or iPhone... text & graphic rendering for these type of screens may look sharper because software has caught up with the hardware... I doubt anyone would ever notice this if this article wasn't posted...
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Wasn't everyone super satisfied with N1's display before this article was posted? or suddenly the display quality depreciated now???
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Nope! I have known about the Pentile matrix OLED displays since late '06. I'm very happy that the N1 uses this superior technology.
Superior? I haven't heard much indicating it to be superior, except maybe in longevity. Or is there something else I'm missing?
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Superior? I haven't heard much indicating it to be superior, except maybe in longevity. Or is there something else I'm missing?
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A lot has been written about the Pentile matrix display technology for the past several years. Samsung loved it so much that they bought the company that pioneered it a few years back.
I remember a while back there was an article on Ars Technica (can't link yet, but google "ars Secrets of the Nexus One's screen" and you'll find it) about the Nexus One's AMOLED screen. They talked about how the AMOLED screen technology/layout resulted in text that wasn't as sharp as on the Motorola Droid. I'm curious if this is still a concern with Super AMOLED technology, as with the Epic 4G?
I'm looking to upgrade from my Palm Pre in the next few weeks (hoping the Epic 4G is out by then), but I'm hoping to do some background research before that. I use my phone quite a bit for web browsing now, and would probably increase that usage on a phone with a bigger screen and better browser. I'm also looking forward to being able to use Kindle's software for Android. Bottom line is that I know I'll be reading a LOT of text on my phone. Super AMOLED is supposed to be incredible for pictures and video, but if it's lackluster on text, it's not as useful to me.
If any of you have any thoughts or experiences regarding this issue (if it still is one on Super AMOLED), I'd love to hear it. Thanks!
Yes, it's still an issue.
SAMOLED Pentil subpixel layout makes text look jaggad compared to LCD. The reason for this is that the true addressable resolution of SAMOLED displays is not 480x480 but 393x653. This is the one drawback of this display. See my other posts where i compared the LCD of the EVO vs the Galaxy S. Additional problems are screen burn in and poor power consumption for mobile devices. Text on white backround (web browsing, document viewing) consumes 330% more power than LCD. The color saturation, contrast, black level, and viewing angles are stunning though.
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SAMOLED Pentil subpixel layout makes text look jaggad compared to LCD. The reason for this is that the true addressable resolution of SAMOLED displays is not 480x480 but 393x653. This is the one drawback of this display. See my other posts where i compared the LCD of the EVO vs the Galaxy S. Additional problems are screen burn in and poor power consumption for mobile devices. Text on white backround (web browsing, document viewing) consumes 330% more power than LCD. The color saturation, contrast, black level, and viewing angles are stunning though.
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I checked out your "Galaxy S (Epic, Captivate etc) VS EVO Comparison and thoughts" thread and it was an excellent overview. I'm leaning towards the Evo for the larger screen and better text readability. I'm out of town right now, but when I get back home next week I might try to track down an Evo somewhere. If the Epic comes out within the 30 day trial period, I'll check it out then.
The main things tempting me with the Epic are the nicer CPU & GPU, but I'm pretty sure I'll be happy regardless after being on my sluggish Pre for a year. If only Palm had been bought by someone who could have brought some of WebOS's features to Android (I think I'll miss having cards and gestures). Either way, both look like excellent phones and I'm anxious to get started with Android.
Thanks for the feedback!
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SAMOLED Pentil subpixel layout makes text look jaggad compared to LCD. The reason for this is that the true addressable resolution of SAMOLED displays is not 480x480 but 393x653.
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If that's the reason that it comes out like that, will the text be fixed when Android Gingerbread comes out? I've heard that gingerbread changes the resolution, but I don't know if that's true.
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I checked out your "Galaxy S (Epic, Captivate etc) VS EVO Comparison and thoughts" thread and it was an excellent overview. I'm leaning towards the Evo for the larger screen and better text readability. I'm out of town right now, but when I get back home next week I might try to track down an Evo somewhere. If the Epic comes out within the 30 day trial period, I'll check it out then.
The main things tempting me with the Epic are the nicer CPU & GPU, but I'm pretty sure I'll be happy regardless after being on my sluggish Pre for a year. If only Palm had been bought by someone who could have brought some of WebOS's features to Android (I think I'll miss having cards and gestures). Either way, both look like excellent phones and I'm anxious to get started with Android.
Thanks for the feedback!
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Visit a T-Mobile or AT&T store and look at the Captivate and/or the Vibrant..the Epic will have the same screen..once you see it you can judge for yourself...the text may not be as sharp but it may be acceptable by your use...so its worth checking..
I have a evo and do pretty much nothing but text reading (ebooks and the web). Text is very easy to read and I have not noticed any eye strain yet.
That sucks about super amoled not doing text well.
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Visit a T-Mobile or AT&T store and look at the Captivate and/or the Vibrant..the Epic will have the same screen..once you see it you can judge for yourself...the text may not be as sharp but it may be acceptable by your use...so its worth checking..
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I tried doing that at a Best Buy yesterday but someone had stolen their demo unit(s). Apparently it's one of the more ghetto Best Buys in Boston. Who knew. I'll be checking it out when I get back home for sure though.
Hmmmm.... I went to the AT&T store last week, to check out the captivate and I didn't notice any problem in reading the text personally. I haven't made the switch to a smartphone yet so maybe my eyes are too inexperienced to notice something like that, but I'm pretty sure I'll be happy with my future Epic 4G
I have the captivate and yes, text on it is not as crisp as on the droid or droid x. But is it an issue, no. On really light colored backgrounds like white or light grey, if you look hard for it, you can see some fuzziness. But on colorful backgrounds you really cant see it. I can tell you, its a beautiful screen. Overall it looks better than the droid x, which has been described as dull or drab. The colors on the S-AMOLED really pop, and the fact that its an OLED means that black backgrounds are really true black (complete absence of light).
In my opinion its the second best display available, second only to the iphone4 display.
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In my opinion its the second best display available, second only to the iphone4 display.
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Why would you say the retena display is better?
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Why would you say the retena display is better?
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The only way the retina display is better is if you're reading text from under 10" away from your face, but then again who the heck reads with a phone up in their face? I read alot of e-books and other sites and I can tell you reading a page from a normal distance there is little to no difference.
As far as video playback and pictures the Samsung blows the retina display out of the water and by leaps and bounds is the #1 screen in the phone market hands down.
i have to agree that retina display looks better in my opinion. I have pretty good eyesight so that may be why. However, it doesn't make a difference in eyestrain or readability.
I own a captivate and read ebooks on a white background regularly. Its honestly not an issue.
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i have to agree that retina display looks better in my opinion. I have pretty good eyesight so that may be why. However, it doesn't make a difference in eyestrain or readability.
I own a captivate and read ebooks on a white background regularly. Its honestly not an issue.
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I'm more worried about screen-burn in, which is a very big problem for S-Amoled//Amoled screens.
With less than a year's use of my Nexus One, there is a slight amount of screen burn in, which isn't really avoidable.
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I'm more worried about screen-burn in, which is a very big problem for S-Amoled//Amoled screens.
With less than a year's use of my Nexus One, there is a slight amount of screen burn in, which isn't really avoidable.
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Screen burn ins were only a real problem with the early model amoled screens, much like plasma HDTV the screen tech has evolved and it doesn't hurt that the Super Amoled screens are developed by Samsung which are global HDTV innovators.
Besides for screen burn in to become permanent the screen would have to be on for hours on a static image, on a HDTV I can see that happening if you fall asleep maybe but who on earth turns off their phone's screen timeout and let's the screen stay on all day chugging battery life? That just won't happen.
I'm FAR more worried about the phone's future in regard of updates than I am of screen burn in on a mobile device. Not to mention you have a warranty which 100% covers such a thing as screen burn in and if you do happen to burn in a screen it usually happens sooner rather than later.
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I'm FAR more worried about the phone's future in regard of updates than I am of screen burn in on a mobile device.
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I wouldn't be worried about that if I were you. The Galaxy S series is on all four major US carriers and will undoubtedly get a pretty large hacker following, so even if Samsung does stop updating the Galaxy S phones, there will always be cyanogenmod or many other custom ROMS. And if you're posting here, rooting your phone and installing a custom ROM shouldn't be a huge deal.
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Screen burn ins were only a real problem with the early model amoled screens, much like plasma HDTV the screen tech has evolved and it doesn't hurt that the Super Amoled screens are developed by Samsung which are global HDTV innovators.
Besides for screen burn in to become permanent the screen would have to be on for hours on a static image, on a HDTV I can see that happening if you fall asleep maybe but who on earth turns off their phone's screen timeout and let's the screen stay on all day chugging battery life? That just won't happen.
I'm FAR more worried about the phone's future in regard of updates than I am of screen burn in on a mobile device. Not to mention you have a warranty which 100% covers such a thing as screen burn in and if you do happen to burn in a screen it usually happens sooner rather than later.
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It is not possible to have permanent screen burn in..as for temporary one...even LCDs state not to keep the same image on for too long to avoid temp burn-ins...
As for updates...we are not sure how much of a bone Samsung will give, but at the moment, event the Sprint Moment has gotten a Foyo 2.2 by the community.
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SAMOLED Pentil subpixel layout makes text look jaggad compared to LCD. The reason for this is that the true addressable resolution of SAMOLED displays is not 480x480 but 393x653. This is the one drawback of this display. See my other posts where i compared the LCD of the EVO vs the Galaxy S. Additional problems are screen burn in and poor power consumption for mobile devices. Text on white backround (web browsing, document viewing) consumes 330% more power than LCD. The color saturation, contrast, black level, and viewing angles are stunning though.
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Is that 330% more power figure accurate for the GS screens, I was under the impression that they are different than all previous devices? I read a lot of text in my personal usage. I wonder if an app could be developed to make all white pixels black and black white? Although white text isn't ideal if it amounted to 350% power savings my eyes/brain could adapt eventually?
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I wouldn't be worried about that if I were you. The Galaxy S series is on all four major US carriers and will undoubtedly get a pretty large hacker following, so even if Samsung does stop updating the Galaxy S phones, there will always be cyanogenmod or many other custom ROMS. And if you're posting here, rooting your phone and installing a custom ROM shouldn't be a huge deal.
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I heard that samsung encrypts the hardware drivers so it's not very easy to port new android versions.. Is this not an issue?
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Is that 330% more power figure accurate for the GS screens, I was under the impression that they are different than all previous devices? I read a lot of text in my personal usage. I wonder if an app could be developed to make all white pixels black and black white? Although white text isn't ideal if it amounted to 350% power savings my eyes/brain could adapt eventually?
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Well that is for the regular AMOLED screen...the Super AMOLED screen would most likely be around like 260% for that..but you gotta realize that your screen will never be FULLY pure white like that...the next revision of Super AMOLED(for 2011 plans to go RGBW to fix that).
Either way you'd never have so much white on the screen for it to waist that much energy...
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I heard that samsung encrypts the hardware drivers so it's not very easy to port new android versions.. Is this not an issue?
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It does not make it easy but not impossible...if they release a Galaxy S 2 in the future with Gingerbread or any other phone with it and don't do Gingerbread for Galaxy S..with some effort it would be possible to port it...
Im pretty annoyed of all the people nit-picking about our displays, and how its grainy, etc. (The whole pen-tile thing). I was searching up on it and it is actually an advantage! it gives us better battery life, images are sharper than normal, and are brighter than normal while not using more battery, so you dont have to dim it to save battery (which i hated with normal displays).
anyone who is going to complain about it read this.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/05/2...x2-and-its-qhd-display-pentile-at-its-finest/
Why does this display looks so grainy.Does anyone know?
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asesino said:
Why does this display looks so grainy.Does anyone know?
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10 char.
who has been complaining?? My display looks bad ass!!!
I have no display complaints either, only the auto brightness, can't ever make it's mind up.
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I have no display complaints either, only the auto brightness, can't ever make it's mind up.
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haha i know right! that has nothing to do with the display though, that is the accelerometer. and i love the display on this thing, i can actually see it in the daylight!! that has been a HUGE issue for me with HTC phones (almost every phone i have owned has been HTC). i can see it perfect walking down the street with the sun bright as sh!t. also the views on it, i can see everything still good when tilting the phone.
OP you haven't owned an iphone4 or SGS have you? Our display may be good for battery life but viewing angles, color reproduction and quality is garbage.
Not to mention the horrible gradients.
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I have owned the Captivate, Inspire, and Atrix. I passed my Captivate on to the wife, and now when I pick it up, I think the display looks horrible, and think the Atrix is crisper, and brighter than the others.
The captivate had a much better display in my opinion.
I love my atrix though and the display is not "garbage" either.
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The widgets looks so small on the Atrix qHD 960x540 screen.
Is there a way or app to switch the display to 800x480??
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Did you even read the article you posted?
You get a higher resolution and better battery life and better whites, compared to LCD displays, at the cost of blurrier text, grainier images, and poor yellow and green reproduction.
And it may give better battery life compared to normal LCDs that don't use pentile since it has fewer sub-pixels to drive, but it doesn't give the same battery savings that are possible from OLED displays as those completely shut off any black pixels for both battery saving and for true blacks. OLEDs also have better whites compared to LCDs due to the nature of the technology.
Question: do our displays use less power to display white or black?
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Question: do our displays use less power to display white or black?
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Yes on white, since only 1 sub-pixel needs to be used vs 3, and no on black.
Dude, whites on amoled are blue. It is true that amoled is not lit up when displaying blacks. However, it is the only advantage. In my experience every other color, especially whites can drain the hell out of amoleds. Oh and amoleds are prone to a permanent burn in.
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Atrix display is boss
Why such a debate? A screen is a screen, it shows images, and does what its gotta do.
If you don't like it, then you shouldn't have brought it in the first place.
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Why such a debate? A screen is a screen, it shows images, and does what its gotta do.
If you don't like it, then you shouldn't have brought it in the first place.
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Because TFT screens are as "pretty" as Amoleds, but they don't kill the battery like Amoleds either...
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Did you even read the article you posted?
You get a higher resolution and better battery life and better whites, compared to LCD displays, at the cost of blurrier text, grainier images, and poor yellow and green reproduction.
And it may give better battery life compared to normal LCDs that don't use pentile since it has fewer sub-pixels to drive, but it doesn't give the same battery savings that are possible from OLED displays as those completely shut off any black pixels for both battery saving and for true blacks. OLEDs also have better whites compared to LCDs due to the nature of the technology.
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I don't even need to read the article to know how these screens act. From my personal experience, TFT screens give waaay better battery life than Amoled or even SLCD.
I've owned 4 different TFT phones. 2 Amoleds, 2 Super Amoleds, and 1 SLCD.
Take a non-TFT phone on a dominant white background website like Engaget for a while, and see how fast it drains on white backgrounds. Even with Google, I had to switch up to something as simple as Blackle instead.
No double Amoleds screens are "Eye-Candy", but they are like Gremlins where you have to keep them away from the light.
TFTs may look plainer and grainy, but you don't have change your browsing habits because of them either to save battery...
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Im pretty annoyed of all the people nit-picking about our displays, and how its grainy, etc. (The whole pen-tile thing). I was searching up on it and it is actually an advantage! it gives us better battery life, images are sharper than normal, and are brighter than normal while not using more battery, so you dont have to dim it to save battery (which i hated with normal displays).
anyone who is going to complain about it read this.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/05/2...x2-and-its-qhd-display-pentile-at-its-finest/
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I would not call it nit-picking, people are stating facts ... In your link above you have decided to take the article as a positive article, but some of the people would take it as a negative because they can resolve the pixels (good vision maybe) and can not put up with any artifacts or imperfections ...
My story is that i bought the atrix at its full price but i could not put up with the screen (everything else was ok like battery, gps ... another annoyance was the inability to type in macedonian language ... and yes i've checked the market for keyboards and stuff, no video calls because of the unknown status with gingerbread) so i have decided to replace it with Inspire which had better screen (at least to me) but terrible gps, battery life and the same problem with languages ... At the end i've purchased iPhone 4 and all of the features that i wanted to have are available ...
My criteria:
1. Good screen (accurate) /i do not care how many cores the phone has, if the screen is not good then the phone is not good too/
2. Language (keyboard) / Video call (phone to PC with skype or google talk)
This is how i see the things ... Different people have different priorities when they want to purchase phones, electronics ...
When so many people say that the atrix screen is grainy ... probably it is ... some can put up with it, some can not ...
Another high level article describing the positives and negatives of a PenTile screen from an expert in that area:
http://www.displaymate.com/Nexus_One_ShootOut.htm
Take care
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Im pretty annoyed of all the people nit-picking about our displays, and how its grainy, etc. (The whole pen-tile thing). I was searching up on it and it is actually an advantage! it gives us better battery life, images are sharper than normal, and are brighter than normal while not using more battery, so you dont have to dim it to save battery (which i hated with normal displays).
anyone who is going to complain about it read this.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/05/2...x2-and-its-qhd-display-pentile-at-its-finest/
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GSM recently did a preview and said this about the screen. And i'm sure they review tons of phones. Should shut up a lot of haters and doubters who most likely haven't even seen a pentile display =)
The hyperglazed plastic will not enjoy universal appeal, but that might not turn out to be too great a problem - all eyes will be on the screen anyway. It's huge, it's got beautiful colors and deep blacks, it's sharp, and in short it's the best display we've seen recently. As expected, the whole PenTile thing didn't prove to be a big issue and you'll have to have a 20/20 eyesight and look really carefully to even see it.
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And in regards to the Hyperglaze
This layer helps mask some of the fingerprints and is actually decently grippy, so it's probably the best bit about the S III back
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Thanks Bala_Gamer for this image. Picture means a 1000 words.
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GSM Arena are notoriously clueless, as are a lot of tech bloggers.
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I've searched as much as I can on this. Despite the materials/construction, views on in-hand seem to be unanimously positive due to the rounded shape. Coupled with the placement of the power button I think this will be what makes me return my hox for this. I really doubt the display will be as good as the slcd2 (it's that good), but I hope it's close.
Since the time i got my first Nokia 6600 i have been following GSMarena reviews and opinions. I would have bought more than 10 phones since 6600 till my i9100 S2 based on their reviews and they never missed a shot. Their reviews exactly reflected the phone. Well, this is my personal opinion and i am not trying to generalize.
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Since the time i got my first Nokia 6600 i have been following GSMarena reviews and opinions. I would have bought more than 10 phones since 6600 till my i9100 S2 based on their reviews and they never missed a shot. Their reviews exactly reflected the phone. Well, this is my personal opinion and i am not trying to generalize.
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I agree the guys and girls at GSM arena are non bias and usually accurate. Let's not discredited them just because they did not like some parts.
Overall a positive review.
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Editorial aside, the news isn't all good. The good news is that the display's much brighter than the GN where it was a common complaint. The bad news is that it's not as bright as either the SGS2 or G-Note, especially at 50% brightness which is the most typical setting.
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Editorial aside, the news isn't all good. The good news is that the display's much brighter than the GN where it was a common complaint. The bad news is that it's not as bright as either the SGS2 or G-Note, especially at 50% brightness which is the most typical setting.
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Something I'm more interested to hear about is battery life. If the gorilla glass is thinner it might make the phone more visible also. If the battery life is great even with %75 brightness and better than the HOX at %50 brightness lets say, then I don't really see a problem and could see different kinds of trade offs.
I myself don't run my phones at %100 brightness that often.
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Something I'm more interested to hear about is battery life. If the gorilla glass is thinner it might make the phone more visible also. If the battery life is great even with %75 brightness and better than the HOX at %50 brightness lets say, then I don't really see a problem and could see different kinds of trade offs.
I myself don't run my phones at %100 brightness that often.
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Even if the glass is thinner it doesn't make the screen "more or less" bright.
One place where the brightness on my SGS2 is on full ALL the time is outdoors (auto sensor) and in bright sun it's hard to see, which means the SGS3 will have worse viewing outdoors than the SGS2.
Do the numbers always translate into how beautiful a display is? Serious question Ive never really paid attention.
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Do the numbers always translate into how beautiful a display is? Serious question Ive never really paid attention.
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"Beautiful" is subjective. "Cd/m2" is not. I should have posted the link, sorry. There's also a sublink in the article that explains the testing methodology.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iii-review-757p2.php
Battery life is one of the things that concerns me. If any of you used Vlingo on the SGS2 in "listen mode" it was a battery pig. S-Voice always listening has to have an impact. Same thing with all the sensors being alive 24/7 waiting for you to blink or move the phone. You can turn it all off but it kind of kills the sizzle of the phone. I'm guessing Samsung made the battery 2200mAh for a reason.
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Even if the glass is thinner it doesn't make the screen "more or less" bright.
One place where the brightness on my SGS2 is on full ALL the time is outdoors (auto sensor) and in bright sun it's hard to see, which means the SGS3 will have worse viewing outdoors than the SGS2.
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Having a thinner glass means a lot. If your visibility is improved then you don't need to tune up the brightness as much to see. The type of glass you use also can help our hurt visibility. Think of the glass as a diffuser, when light hits it, it will actually be reflected and diffused throughout the glass, this goes both ways from the monitor and outdoor lighting hitting the screen. By thinning the glass and changing he type of material the glass is made of you can drastically improve visibility. I mean look at the iPhone 4S (541 c^2/m) vs the Galaxy S1 (354 c^2/m) and if I'm not mistaken the Lumia 900 has a pentile (390 c^2/m)
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Noki...martphone-crown-in-outdoor-visibility_id29918
Everyone assumes the Galaxy Nexus and SGS3 are the exact screens, but the way they look is not going to be the same at all. The screen itself is reported to be a bit different as you can see they have different brightness ratings. In addition, the SGS3 is sporting Gorilla Glass 2. Being brighter and having Gorilla Glass 2 will surely bump it up from the Galaxy Nexus screen. But we'll have to wait and see.
I'm sure there are a lot more factors as to what improves what and that's why the engineers went with what they did. In the end the screen probably won't beat the HOS in sharpness and will probably not be as good outdoor but it will be good enough in those areas and better in other areas like contrast. We'll have to wait and see more test done with the device.
Putting all the above aside, Samsung went with the SAMOLED because it helps them make thinner phones in addition to gorilla glass 2 being thinner it probably helped with the foot print in the unit itself to give us the SD card and removable battery and maintain the thinness of the device.
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Having a thinner glass means a lot. If your visibility is improved then you don't need to tune up the brightness as much to see/ The type of glass you use also can help our hurt visibility. I mean look at the iPhone 4S (541 c^2/m) vs the Galaxy S1 (354 c^2/m) and if I'm not mistaken the Lumia 900 has a pentile (390 c^2/m)
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But wouldn't the scope he used to perform the test have netted all the variables out? Unless the test he's using perceives brightness differently than the human eye I'd think the comparisons would be relevant? No?
As for thickness of the glass, it's based on application and ranges from .5MM to 2MM. 2 is 20% thinner than 1 which doesn't seem that meaninful in terms of improved device packaging.
As an engineer, you'll find these interesting. They're way over my head.
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/sites/all/files/GG2 PI Sheet Rev b_050912.pdf
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/sites/all/files/COR_GG_Prod_Brochure.pdf
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Having a thinner glass means a lot. If your visibility is improved then you don't need to tune up the brightness as much to see. The type of glass you use also can help our hurt visibility. Think of the glass as a diffuser, when light hits it, it will actually be reflected and diffused throughout the glass, this goes both ways from the monitor and outdoor lighting hitting the screen. By thinning the glass and changing he type of material the glass is made of you can drastically improve visibility. I mean look at the iPhone 4S (541 c^2/m) vs the Galaxy S1 (354 c^2/m) and if I'm not mistaken the Lumia 900 has a pentile (390 c^2/m)
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Noki...martphone-crown-in-outdoor-visibility_id29918
Everyone assumes the Galaxy Nexus and SGS3 are the exact screens, but the way they look is not going to be the same at all. The screen itself is reported to be a bit different as you can see they have different brightness ratings. In addition, the SGS3 is sporting Gorilla Glass 2. Being brighter and having Gorilla Glass 2 will surely bump it up from the Galaxy Nexus screen. But we'll have to wait and see.
I'm sure there are a lot more factors as to what improves what and that's why the engineers went with what they did. In the end the screen probably won't beat the HOS in sharpness and will probably not be as good outdoor but it will be good enough in those areas and better in other areas like contrast. We'll have to wait and see more test done with the device.
Putting all the above aside, Samsung went with the SAMOLED because it helps them make thinner phones in addition to gorilla glass 2 being thinner it probably helped with the foot print in the unit itself to give us the SD card and removable battery and maintain the thinness of the device.
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Just a minor correction, the Lumia 900 uses an RGB stripe, not PenTile (I assume it's the exact same SAMOLED+ panel that was introduced with the I9100). The Lumia 800 has a smaller, PenTile screen.
About the Lumia's outdoor visibility, it's a result of their "ClearBlack" tech, which is a couple of polarizing filters behind the glass to reduce reflections of outside objects. Of course, thinner glass in the form of Gorilla Glass 2 should help as well.
My main hope is that what reviewers have said about the screen being better than the Nexus is true, especially that the usual PenTile graininess is less visible. I'm sure that the LCD2 on the HOX will remain the superior screen quantitatively, in terms of luminance and color reproduction, but that is not the whole story.
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But wouldn't the scope he used to perform the test have netted all the variables out? Unless the test he's using perceives brightness differently than the human eye I'd think the comparisons would be relevant? No?
As for thickness of the glass, it's based on application and ranges from .5MM to 2MM. 2 is 20% thinner than 1 which doesn't seem that meaninful in terms of improved device packaging.
As an engineer, you'll find these interesting. They're way over my head.
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/sites/all/files/GG2 PI Sheet Rev b_050912.pdf
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/sites/all/files/COR_GG_Prod_Brochure.pdf
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I'm not sure how the apertures work and measure things, visibility of the screen, light coming from the monitor and how the aperture works itself can all be different variables to be measured separately. If it bypasses through the glass and measures off the the panel itself or does it take into account the glass.
Like the test with the Lumia, Galaxy and iPhone. The brightness was measured seprrately and the visibility factor was done by controlling the environment itself by exposing the phones to different exterior brightness levels. They are actually determining outdoor visibility with photography rather than using an aperture, scope or device. So that I believe shows that brightness and outdoor viability should be independent of each other as they were controlled differently.
I had modified my original post to add this about how I have seen glass affect the military displays. "Think of the glass as a diffuser, when light hits it, it will actually be reflected and diffused throughout the glass, this goes both ways from the monitor and outdoor lighting hitting the screen. By thinning the glass and changing he type of material the glass is made of you can drastically improve visibility." There's also other factors such as how the glass is chemically cleaned on the surface and what kind of finish they add to the surface itself.
I wish I could answer more questions but I only have about 1.5 years of experience in this field as I was working on consumer products with no displays beforehand. I will take a look at those links after I eat dinner. Thank you, I've been looking for the test procedures of the gorilla glass.
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Just a minor correction, the Lumia 900 uses an RGB stripe, not PenTile (I assume it's the exact same SAMOLED+ panel that was introduced with the I9100). The Lumia 800 has a smaller, PenTile screen.
About the Lumia's outdoor visibility, it's a result of their "ClearBlack" tech, which is a couple of polarizing filters behind the glass to reduce reflections of outside objects. Of course, thinner glass in the form of Gorilla Glass 2 should help as well.
My main hope is that what reviewers have said about the screen being better than the Nexus is true, especially that the usual PenTile graininess is less visible. I'm sure that the LCD2 on the HOX will remain the superior screen quantitatively, in terms of luminance and color reproduction, but that is not the whole story.
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Thanks for the correction. I haven't read or researched the Lumia as it runs windows...
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Do the numbers always translate into how beautiful a display is? Serious question Ive never really paid attention.
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Numbers does reflect how beautiful a display will be. But it won't matter to most of average users like me. In fact, I never pay to much attention on the screen to avoid over stress my eyes.
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Screens have gotten so good anymore I don't care. I guess I have to recognize I'm the out guy on this because you see so many people complain about the quality of the screen on various modern phones but its been a few handsets since I haven't been completely satisfied with the screen.
yep battery technology are holding phones evolution imho
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Screens have gotten so good anymore I don't care. I guess I have to recognize I'm the out guy on this because you see so many people complain about the quality of the screen on various modern phones but its been a few handsets since I haven't been completely satisfied with the screen.
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I would have to agree with you for the most part. I currently own the ipad 3 and the GS1. When it comes to text and sharpness, there is no challenge, ipad 3 owns my gs1. But in terms of pictures and videos, even my humble GS1 screens owns the lcd on my ipad (both made by samsung)
In the case of the GS3, it has a HD 720P over 300PPI. Texts will be crystal clear and sharp all the while giving me superior amoled video and picture qualities. Thats why I will never own another lcd screen given a choice. (didn't really have a choice with a tablet since ipad 3 was the best tablet to get)
Have you seen the 500px app on an amoled? It's freakin amazing. Much more than on my ipad 3. I doubt One X has a better screen than ipad 3 which has some serious color spectrum coverage.
As far as i'm aware the GS3 gas the same screen tech as the Galaxy Nexus, only that it's a little bit bigger. Does this mean that we can expect the same "burn in" issues as well...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1509123
I had many phones with LCD screens (HTC Diamond, HTC HD, HTC HD2, I also played a lot with my father's iPhone 4). I remember when I got the Galaxy S2, the first thing I've noticed and appreciated was the inky blacks and insane contrast. Everything simply looked 3D, and I've promised myself I'm never going back to LCD.
Now unfortunately the G2 seems to be the best phone for my needs, but it uses the old LCD technology. I'm not sure how I'm going to feel going back from the S2's inky blacks, to grey blacks, this kinds of ruin the experience...
What do you guys who upgraded to the G2 from AMOLED screens think about this issue ? do you miss your AMOLEDs when dark content is shown on the screen ? do things look like a "grey bath" ?
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I had many phones with LCD screens (HTC Diamond, HTC HD, HTC HD2, I also played a lot with my father's iPhone 4). I remember when I got the Galaxy S2, the first thing I've noticed and appreciated was the inky black and insane contrast. Everything simply looked 3D, and I've promised myself I'm never going back to LCD.
Now unfortunately the G2 seems to be the best phone for my needs, but it uses the old LCD technology. I'm not sure how I'm going to feel going back from the S2's inky blacks, to grey blacks, this kinds of ruin the experience...
What do you guys who upgraded to the G2 from AMOLED screens think about this issue ? do you miss your AMOLEDs when dark content is shown on the screen ? do things look like a "grey bath" ?
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I felt the same way but I'm actually quite happy with the display on the G2. Viewing angles aren't as good as AMOLED and at night the blacks are not as black, but overall the blacks are pretty good. I have a hard time telling where the black nav bar ends and the black bezel begins. At least during the day time.
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coming from a S3...I love the G2 screen just because the fact the ppi is so much higher...and things look much sharper and the colors are more realistic..couldnt care much for the darker black screen...i dont even notice it.
Take a look how LG tried to hide the fact that blacks suffer on this LCD screen. Every image that they preinstall on this device is full of bright color. The settings background is white and not black... they tried to let you see as little black as possible with this device.
On a different note, most of what I do with the device is browse the internet, and the web mostly use white backgrounds, which kind of kill the battery with AMOLED screens...
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coming from a S3...I love the G2 screen just because the fact the ppi is so much higher...and things look much sharper and the colors are more realistic..couldnt care much for the darker black screen...i dont even notice it.
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You came from an S3... if you came from an S4, you wouldn't have seen an increase in sharpness/resolution...
Regarding colors looking more realistic, our eye is very adaptive, so without side by side comparison, it will be hard for us to say what is realistic and what's not. What we can always judge well (even without side by side comparison) is contrast and black levels, exactly the areas where the G2 suffers...
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You came from an S3... if you came from an S4, you wouldn't have seen an increase in sharpness/resolution...
Regarding colors looking more realistic, our eye is very adaptive, so without side by side comparison, it will be hard for us to say what is realistic and what's not. What we can always judge well (even without side by side comparison) is contrast and black levels, exactly the areas where the G2 suffers...
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I guess color preferences are pretty subjective but for me personally the GS4 looked hideously artificial all of the half dozen times I went to the store trying to convince myself to buy one. That and some of the display models I looked at had severe burn in. To me the G2 screen looks great, with one exception: you can see nothing in landscape mode when wearing polarized sunglasses, which kinda sucks in a car dock.
My experience with going from AMOLED to IPS LCD would be equal to going from a cartoon to real life. Clearer, natural, beautiful, amazing. No regrets! This is how a screen should be
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I didn't notice the difference from my Galaxy Nexus (in terms of color reproduction) until I sat them side by side. But just looking at the G2's display by itself, its amazing. I had a similar conversation with a buddy of mine about the pentile screen on the Note 3 - compared to itself, it looks great. But if you compared it to something non-pentile like the G2 or the HTC One...you might have a different reaction.
So if you have no other phone to compare it against, I think you would truly love the LCD panel that LG uses on this device.
The G2 looks a lot clearer than the GNex's AMOLED, IMO. I even had someone mention how clear it looked last weekend, after I had shot some HD video with it.
The issue I've noticed is that the brightness can jump around, even with automatic brightness turned off. More than once, I've had the brightness at about 66%, then I've seen the brightness flicker a little bit and then drop by maybe 10%. I don't know if this happens on all G2s, or if it is a flaw in mine. It doesn't happen all the time, thankfully, but it's mildly annoying when it does happen.
I came from an S4. AMOLED looks really artificial and fake in comparison
When I got this phone, I still had my S4 before I sold it. I set the G2 up the same as my S4 with the same home screen icons and layout, same wallpaper, same widgets, etc.
When I put the phones side by side, I actually started laughing. On lighter screens, especially white, the S4 was super dingy and green looking. It was almost embarrassing.
Granted the blacks were better, it's not drastic enough to give up the much brighter whites and color accuracy in general from this phone. Now I know the G2 screen isn't super accurate with color reproduction, but it looks a lot better than the S4 that I had.
Ultimately, I don't miss amoled at all.
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You came from an S3... if you came from an S4, you wouldn't have seen an increase in sharpness/resolution...
Regarding colors looking more realistic, our eye is very adaptive, so without side by side comparison, it will be hard for us to say what is realistic and what's not. What we can always judge well (even without side by side comparison) is contrast and black levels, exactly the areas where the G2 suffers...
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I played with both side by side for an extensive period of time an saw th difference between the S4 & G2's screens. The S4 still has the pentile feel to it even though it's not as bad as the s3 but you can't deny it's still there just less noticeable.
When I saw the G2, I was pleasantly surprised just how gorgeous the screen looked. Everything popped just right. It reminded me of the HTC One I just bought a few days prior. In fact I took my then HTC One out and sat it side by side with the G2, S4, 5s & S4 Active.
The question then became which phone is better than the HTC One in display or at at least close
The only phone that could compare on the list is the G2 in some case I found its screen a little better in how it shows images and web pages. Afterwards I went back & compared it to the note 3 extensively & found out the G2's screen is king.
You have to compare for yourself to see what I mean. Spend some time in the store & put the phones through their paces. There's a reason why we love our G2 phones so much
I came from an XT910 with AMOLED screen, but I'm super happy with the G2's screen. It looks amazing, and there is no bad feeling to the imaging at all.
yuck amoled. idk how that's even popular. as noted above the gs4 compared to this, or any LCD screen is a joke.. it just looks.. dirty. LCD is much more superior than amoled, imo.
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You came from an S3... if you came from an S4, you wouldn't have seen an increase in sharpness/resolution...
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You might. Just a little bit. The pixel arrangement is tighter than amoled's pentile style. I only notice a tiny bit, if i'm looking for it. Similar ppis though.
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I played with both side by side for an extensive period of time an saw th difference between the S4 & G2's screens. The S4 still has the pentile feel to it even though it's not as bad as the s3 but you can't deny it's still there just less noticeable.
When I saw the G2, I was pleasantly surprised just how gorgeous the screen looked. Everything popped just right. It reminded me of the HTC One I just bought a few days prior. In fact I took my then HTC One out and sat it side by side with the G2, S4, 5s & S4 Active.
The question then became which phone is better than the HTC One in display or at at least close
The only phone that could compare on the list is the G2 in some case I found its screen a little better in how it shows images and web pages. Afterwards I went back & compared it to the note 3 extensively & found out the G2's screen is king.
You have to compare for yourself to see what I mean. Spend some time in the store & put the phones through their paces. There's a reason why we love our G2 phones so much
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I agree. I've spent a little time with my friend's one. You'd be hard pressed to choose a winner, but colors look a bit better and richer on the g2. It's also brighter. In fact the screen almost works better than the flash on a white screen lol.
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I kinda chuckled a bit when I read the OP.
Amoled is an inferior technology, for real. The colours are not realistic, and the screen is HIGHLY susceptible to burn-in. Due to that, it is an inherent short life in "screen" terms. Colour reproduction also changes over time which is another disaster. Couple that with the pentile displays that Samsung uses to save money and ugggh.
The Amoled screen was the ONLY REASON!! I didn't get a Note!
Who wants a device where the screen can't be used in a certain way? That is called compromising and for $800 that isn't good enough for me.
The biggest thing I've seen is the blacks aren't as black as on my Galaxy Nexus.
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I had many phones with LCD screens (HTC Diamond, HTC HD, HTC HD2, I also played a lot with my father's iPhone 4). I remember when I got the Galaxy S2, the first thing I've noticed and appreciated was the inky blacks and insane contrast. Everything simply looked 3D, and I've promised myself I'm never going back to LCD.
Now unfortunately the G2 seems to be the best phone for my needs, but it uses the old LCD technology. I'm not sure how I'm going to feel going back from the S2's inky blacks, to grey blacks, this kinds of ruin the experience...
What do you guys who upgraded to the G2 from AMOLED screens think about this issue ? do you miss your AMOLEDs when dark content is shown on the screen ? do things look like a "grey bath" ?
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What? I came from the GNex with an AMOLED display and this G2 LCD screen blows it out of the water.
The AMOLED screens turn the voltages very low or almost off for the black color. So you get that super black screen. I have these crappy Note 1 & 2 from which I'm typing now, trust me I hate them more that i hate Justin Bieber XD
No offense guys..
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The g2 screen is gorgeous compared to my s4. Colors and icons is more realistic looking. But won't have the punch like amoled. It has the whitest screen. But with the note 3 the amoled is much improved. Whites are whiter and screen is brighter but still not as bright as the g2. The S4 screen is awful compared to the other 2 even at full brightness. Although I have to admit I had the s4 for several months now and I really didn't notice until now that I have the other phones. So it may just be a matter of getting used to it.
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