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Why Samsung was a better choice than HTC

1. Processor/GPU.
2. Super Amoled.
3. Touch Screens.
4. Build Quality.
5. Freshness.
6. Great speakers.
I also think Google chose Samsung because of two very big HTC ****ups / backstabs.
1. The Nexus One. A Great Phone...
Except for the touch screen.
This was Google's "baby". And what did HTC do? They shipped all of their devices with faulty touch screens. ALL of them. And people overlook this? Why? This is HUGE. People say Samsung has a bad track record but this dwarfs Samsung's software issues. No I'm not speaking out of my ass, as I do own a Nexus One. I forked 350$ out for one why? Just so I could attempt to deal with the multi-touch issues on my projects.
2. HTC G2. Anti-Root.
No more comment on this. Of course they eventually figured it out, but HTC didn't want you to.
3. ?
Terrible, scratchy speakers on the Nexus One. Even on the G2.
What are your thoughts? I understand some people prefer the metal and hate the plastic. I for one love the aluminum on the iPad and Macbook Airs. However I also like the way the plastic feels on the Vibrant minus the 'creaks'. It feels very smooth in comparison to the G2 for instance.

HTC has been great to me but I am happy Google went with Samsung.
Without the SuperAMOLED I wouldn't even be considering this phone as an upgrade to my Nexus-1

I agree with you OP. I loved the look and feel of the Vibrant, but i kept my N1 because of the "Pure Google" experience. I always thought to myself i wish the Galaxy S phone had Vanilla android, that would be amazing! We will see next week.

ap3604 said:
HTC has been great to me but I am happy Google went with Samsung.
Without the SuperAMOLED I wouldn't even be considering this phone as an upgrade to my Nexus-1
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Pretty much everything Anderdroid said we both went from Nexus one to galaxy S phones so have plenty of experience between both hardware of the N1/NS
even without SAMOLED this phone its better than nexus one
better multitouch up to 5 finger registration, better external speaker and sound quality is excellent whether its from external,3.5 and even stereo bluetoooth. Not to mention ridiculously fast mobile GPU
But yea SAMOLED is a huge plus IMO produces better whites doesn't seem to have the bluish/purplish tint that i noticed with my N1 and also better in direct sunlight

demo23019 said:
Pretty much everything Anderdroid said we both went from Nexus one to galaxy S phones so have plenty of experience between both hardware of the N1/NS
even without SAMOLED this phone its better than nexus one
better multitouch up to 5 finger registration, better external speaker and sound quality is excellent whether its from external,3.5 and even stereo bluetoooth. Not to mention ridiculously fast mobile GPU
But yea SAMOLED is a huge plus IMO produces better whites doesn't seem to have the bluish/purplish tint that i noticed with my N1 and also better in direct sunlight
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Oh yeah! I forgot about how trashy the G2's and Nexus One's speakers are.

HTC failed on screen (multi-touch plague) and speakers - these 2 things alone, made me hate them.

Anderdroid said:
1. Processor/GPU.
2. Super Amoled.
3. Touch Screens.
4. Build Quality.
5. Freshness.
6. Great speakers.
I also think Google chose Samsung because of two very big HTC ****ups / backstabs.
1. The Nexus One. A Great Phone...
Except for the touch screen.
This was Google's "baby". And what did HTC do? They shipped all of their devices with faulty touch screens. ALL of them. And people overlook this? Why? This is HUGE. People say Samsung has a bad track record but this dwarfs Samsung's software issues. No I'm not speaking out of my ass, as I do own a Nexus One. I forked 350$ out for one why? Just so I could attempt to deal with the multi-touch issues on my projects.
2. HTC G2. Anti-Root.
No more comment on this. Of course they eventually figured it out, but HTC didn't want you to.
3. ?
Terrible, scratchy speakers on the Nexus One. Even on the G2.
What are your thoughts? I understand some people prefer the metal and hate the plastic. I for one love the aluminum on the iPad and Macbook Airs. However I also like the way the plastic feels on the Vibrant minus the 'creaks'. It feels very smooth in comparison to the G2 for instance.
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I completely agree with you. You said everything.
I was planning to switch my HTC Desire for a Galaxy S, but the Galaxy S looks too much like an iPhone, and out of the box has bad system file, and touchwiz and stuff like that. Now Nexus S is out, with an unique, gorgeous design, I'm probably gonna buy it. Just wanna see some more reviews.

I honestly don't agree that it looks too much like an iPhone... How exactly? Even then I'm not even anti-iPhone so w/e. I think it has a better design than the iPhone.

Anderdroid said:
I understand some people prefer the metal and hate the plastic. I for one love the aluminum on the iPad and Macbook Airs. However I also like the way the plastic feels on the Vibrant minus the 'creaks'. It feels very smooth in comparison to the G2 for instance.
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You know what i dont understand is why there haven been any 3rd part aluminum battery cover replacement for galaxy S IMO this would be great
This would solve the whole cheap feel not to mention eliminate fingerprints on the back.

Anderdroid said:
I honestly don't agree that it looks too much like an iPhone... How exactly? Even then I'm not even anti-iPhone so w/e. I think it has a better design than the iPhone.
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I've got an iPhone 3Gs before my Desire, so I know what I'm talking about.
Many of my friends that saw the Galaxy S phone just said : "holy crap what an iPhone-Like!" without knowing anything about the phone.
With the metal around it, a kind of speaker above, a big home button under the screen, makes it look like an iPhone.
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I'm sorry this does like an iPhone(not only the UI).

EleCtrOx666 said:
I've got an iPhone 3Gs before my Desire, so I know what I'm talking about.
Many of my friends that saw the Galaxy S phone just said : "holy crap what an iPhone-Like!" without knowing anything about the phone.
With the metal around it, a kind of speaker above, a big home button under the screen, makes it look like an iPhone.
I'm sorry this does like an iPhone(not only the UI).
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Well Im glad the nexus s and any us version of the sgs do not look like that. Only the EU I9000 looks like that and has the buttons like that.

shep211 said:
Well Im glad the nexus s and any us version of the sgs do not look like that. Only the EU I9000 looks like that and has the buttons like that.
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The tmobile vibrant looks the same minus the big home button

I agree with everything the OP said and then some:
- super evil NAND lock on devices making the whole "open" in the OS to pretty much heavily locked down. To date Samsung were very relaxed about securing their devices in evil ways.

Better reach of Samsung all over the world. For exmaple, here in India HTC support is pathetic/kind of non existence. They have just started setting up their own service centers. Whereas samsung is pretty establisehd in this part of the world since long time. So I assume samsung has a wider reach.
But would love to see HTC expand their market here. Very few HTC models here

Samsung was probably the better choice.. though, I don't think I appreciate the material they used to make the NS. The N1 may have had a faulty touchscreen (wasn't that the same touch panel used on all the devices HTC made, prior to their more recent ones?).. but at least it didn't have a plastic covered casing that adores fingerprints.
I don't know exactly what the problem is with using plastic, but everyone doesn't like it.. so.. I'm jumping on the bandwagon, lol. In all seriousness though, why exactly is this so horrible?

Eclair~ said:
Samsung was probably the better choice.. though, I don't think I appreciate the material they used to make the NS. The N1 may have had a faulty touchscreen (wasn't that the same touch panel used on all the devices HTC made, prior to their more recent ones?).. but at least it didn't have a plastic covered casing that adores fingerprints.
I don't know exactly know what the problem is with using plastic, but everyone doesn't like it.. so.. I'm jumping on the bandwagon, lol. In all seriousness though, why exactly is this so horrible?
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Because it feels/looks more cheap then say, N1/Desire/Iphone 4 etc, the look suits more of a mid range phone, then a top end smartphone.

I have to say one thing I loved about the N1 was the teflon (or whatever it was) coating on the battery panel and back/sides of the phone. It would shrug off fingerprints and was quite hard to nick/scratch. Although after almost a year of use, my N1 does show some of the coating peeling off near the headphone jack and also near the USB plug.

SAMOLED has the bluish tints with their whites as well. And the Pentile Matrix arrangement used in SAMOLED results in not so sharp text. S-LCD is better in that way. Obviously overall both screens kind of tie out.

I agree with most of these posts. Vanilla android plus galaxy s is a dream come true.
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Superfrag said:
SAMOLED has the bluish tints with their whites as well. And the Pentile Matrix arrangement used in SAMOLED results in not so sharp text. S-LCD is better in that way. Obviously overall both screens kind of tie out.
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I hate hearing that because it makes me wonder if all those tests I've done saying I have 20/20 vision are incorrect since I can't ever see what you all are talking about unless i literally press my eyeball up against the screen. And even then, the screen on my Captivate doesn't have any 'matrices' showing.
Or maybe you just go along with what the detractors say without actually checking out a SAMOLED screen

In-Depth OnePlus One Review: Compared to Perfect

I received my International OnePlus One in the mail yesterday, and after setting it up I've spent a lot of time with it over the past day (including putting my main SIM in the phone).
I'll go through my experience in chronological order from unboxing to fully set up. For each section, I'll point out positives, negatives, and other notables, along with giving an overall rating for each section.
Be aware that in this review I will not excuse things because of the wonderfully low price. I am very picky when it comes to mobiles, and I*will*nit-pick. This is a review that will pit it against $700 flagships,*because*this phone is so good it doesn't need excuses.
Here we go!
Unboxing & Accessories: 95%
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Unboxing the OnePlus was, in all honesty,*the*best unboxing experience I've*ever*had.
This is not an easy feat, considering I've owned, unboxed, and later sold every iPhone and Android flagship from the past couple years.
From the red pull tab on the protective brown cardboard, to sliding out the bright red inner package out of its white sleeve.
Each layer brought even more sense of surprise as I came closer and closer to the phone itself!
The individual package for the charger was an excellent idea, and the included accessories just screamed luxury.
Although some have questioned the inclusion of a key ring attachment for the SIM remover, I found this to be perfect. Being one who switches phones often, having that sleeve on my keys makes it that much easier to find a remover when I need it.
The one issue I had with the accessories was with the charging cable. While the USB end is sleek, and the cable is a nice bright red, it just isn't practical.
The cable is so thick and bulky that it just looks out of place next to the thin black and white cables on my nightstand.
And even worse, is how short the darn thing is. iPhone chargers*were*the shortest cables I'd ever seen included with phones. And now, they're tied for worst. At three feet, the included cable with the OnePlus just isn't anywhere near long enough. I can barely plug it in at night, and good luck trying to use the phone while it’s charging.
I thought the six foot black Monoprice cable I'd been using with my M8 would make it an easy fix. It wasn't. For some reason, the stock OnePlus USB cable charges noticeably faster than any others I tried.
I give this section a 95% because the experience was truly something else, and if the USB cable was a useable length, it would have been 100% (or more). The lack of a proper-length cable was a disappointment, but the battery life is so good I'll never have to use it on the charger.
Build Quality+Quality Control: 85%
This is an insanely well-built piece of hardware. If someone told me this handset cost $700, I would believe them. It’s one of the sturdiest phones I’ve felt, and manufacturing defects were nonexistent (except for one thing).
And that one thing (the subtracted 15%) comes from the screen. First, the oleophobic coating on the screen is very poor, so the screen is a*fingerprint and dust magnet.*This probably doesn’t matter to most, but as someone who carries around a microfiber cloth in his wallet to keep his screens smudge-free, this is a pretty sizeable downside.
Second, I got a model with a slight yellow tint on the bottom. After seeing some others' screens, mine is extremely mild, and unless I look at a white screen I can't notice the shift. It's almost like the bottom half of the screen very gradually gets warmer (from the middle to the bottom).*I was going to include a picture of it, but it was so insignificant the camera couldn't see it.
Although I can barely see it, it's there. And the fact that these defects weren't one-off makes me have to deduct a few points.
OnePlus did a commendable job on QC for this device. Even the biggest manufacturers have launch glitches sometimes. Thing is, I take display issues more seriously than all others, so I had to give it an 85%.
Hardware: 90%
Wow. I said that out loud when I took this phone out of the box. The One is lightweight, stylish, sturdy, distinctive, unique, and a blast to use. It feels so good in the hand that I want to hold it just to hold it.
The first thing that stood out to me was the sandstone material on the back of the phone. It provides grip,*and*an astounding matte finish, all while being immune to fingerprints.
The front is equally as striking. With the screen raised from the bezel, there’s a handsome frame around the screen that makes it stand out from the crowd. There's even a tiny raised portion of black plastic surrounding the screen itself that will keep it from getting scratched if face down on a table, but is almost invisible to the eye (many reviewers have missed this thoughtful detail).
Speaking of the screen, while off, it blends in perfectly with the rest of the bezel. Although said bezel is a bit large to some, my long fingers have no problems navigating it all.
Speaking of “navigating”, that brings me to the hardware buttons. Coming from my M8 GPE, I thought such a different button arrangement would confuse me (Stock is Back-Home-App Switcher, and these are Menu-Home-Back), however I think owning a Galaxy S4 for eight months kept the muscle memory for this setup in my head. They’re very responsive, well-lit when on, and invisible when off. Not much more you can ask for.
As for MicroSD, I am ecstatic that OnePlus left it out on this phone. They made room for more battery, more onboard storage, more RAM, a better camera, better construction, etc.
As one who relies mostly on the cloud and never has much media, I’d much rather have a phone with no MicroSD slot and more onboard storage than a slot.
Plus, MicroSD is slow. And I’m fine paying a premium to get faster storage.
This is just my opinion, though, (as is the whole review), and If you carry around 5 MicroSD cards in your wallet that’s totally fine by me.
Why only a 90%, you might ask? The lack of a removable battery and water resistance. The lack of a removable battery isn’t too bad due to the great battery life (which, again, I’ll get into later), but it prevents it from being perfect so I needed to mention it.
Every night, when I get in the shower, I so much wish for the ability to just set my phone down and listen to a podcast. Or watch a YouTube video. I understand waterproofing would be pretty unfeasible for a phone this size (as it would most likely become quite unwieldy), but this is actually a pretty big downside for me. If I’m going to give something 100%, it really can’t have big issues.*I’d give any other phone without water resistance much less score, but everything else is so good it gets less of a penalty.
Software+Performance (Cyanogen 11S): 95%
Rarely do I find software perfect, but this is one place where it is. I’m using the Google Now launcher (pretty much the same as the default “Trebuchet”, but there’s a Google Now homepage to the left and “OK Google” everywhere), the*L-Ready Dark*theme by Koulis, and the*Stark*Icon Theme by Kovdev. It looks like this:
Well, I’m a sucker for stock Android. I just prefer it to pretty much all the skins out there. My only gripes with it though are that there just isn’t enough without going through Play Store apps (which I generally stay away from doing, because the interface can get inconsistent). With C11S, just about every setting and customization you can want is available stock. Without root, even (I still rooted it for AdAway and /system access, though)!
This phone has the best specifications of any phone available in the US, and it performs like it. The HTC M8 is usually considered the fastest Android phone out there right now, and this matches (and in RAM, exceeds) it.*There are no hiccups, and after opening 10 or 15 apps and watching a YouTube video my Chrome pages didn’t even have to reload (and I opened those first).
There*is*one complaint of mine, but is pulled just enough weight to reduce my score. And it’s the slow update process (compared to stock). This deducted the 5%. Now I know you can’t expect any skin maker to have something ready faster than stock Android, but when my M8 GPE gets Android L right off the bat, I’ll be sad that the OnePlus One will still be a ways out.
The reason I’m not bringing it down any more is because of the theme engine. I bet I’ll have a damn near Android L experience quite shortly after launch due to all the customization options!
Screen: 90%
In this section, I’ll refrain from criticizing the yellow hue at the bottom as that is an unintended manufacturer’s defect, and it isn’t representative of the way the screen is supposed to perform.
This screen is just gorgeous. It’s huge, has outstanding viewing angles, superb black levels, and a great brightness range. It’s comfortable to use in pitch black as well as in direct sunlight.
At first, the overall warmth of the factory calibration was a bit weird. I much preferred the cooler tones of the M8. I’ve quickly adjusted to it, and skin tones do look good (as OnePlus claimed). There’s also a built-in manual color adjustment tool in settings to make it just the way you like it.
Touch latency is also incredible. Compared to the M8 (with 46ms), this feels about the same. That’s fast.
All in all, the display is impressive. However, it’s not quite at the same level as the Galaxy S5 (the best as of this review) or HTC M8, so I have to bump it down.
Camera: 90%
I’m not a huge mobile photographer, so really all I need is something to look nice on Facebook and Twitter. The HTC M8’s camera works fine for me. Oh, and I know OnePlus had to use a worse camera to keep the price down.
But this camera is much more than something for Instagram.*A "compromised" part of this phone is still great.
The app is great, the settings are simple but highly customizable, and the pictures are consistently sharp, in focus, and properly exposed.
Thing is, cameras like those found the Lumia 1020, and Galaxy S5 are still better.
However, in my usage, it’s been very comparable to the iPhone 5s camera. That isn’t an easy task.
Combine a relative inferiority with the lack of OIS, and I just can’t give it a better score.
I guarantee you won’t be disappointed with the camera, but everything here is being compared to the best of the best.
Sound and Call Quality: 85%
Now, every phone in existence pales in comparison to the HTC One M8 in terms of sound. I was somewhat excited to hear that there were stereo speakers on the OnePlus One, but after using them they really are nowhere near the class of those on HTC’s offering.*Pretty much, media playback is poor compared to the M8 (and M7/E8), but way better than every other phone.
Call quality, on the other hand, is quite good. Callers were clear, and I was clear to them.*The earpiece is a little quiet, and the microphone won’t pick you up unless you talk right into it,*but these are easy software fixes and I’m not concerned.
Battery Life: 100%
Battery life is up there with the best. 3100mAh for a 1080p screen is the best out there, and the ability to manually reduce CPU speed in the settings can stretch this out for even longer.
When the phone arrived, it had about 40% battery. After I set the phone up, downloaded all my apps, switched to ART, and signed into all my accounts, it had 15%. Also, the screen took up an astronomical 55% of the toal battery used. Enough said.
Overall Thoughts and Conclusion: 95%
All things considered, I give this phone a 95%.
Waterproofing, a removable battery, and better speakers would have made it 100%, but I think that*for many users, this is*the*best phone you can buy.
*
You have the performance and build quality of an HTC M8, the camera of an iPhone 5s, the screen size of a G3, the customizability of TouchWiz, the simplicity of stock Android, and the price of the Nexus 5.
But perhaps most importantly of all, it has the friendly support of a small business, with a community of an established one.
If that’s not a flagship killer, I don’t know what is.
If anyone has any questions/comments/criticism, feel free to contact @SolarTrans on Twitter!
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thanks, lets please take further discussion here ...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2685348

If this is the G4, are you interested?

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It appears they've increased the size of the sensor for the camera, which is great, but if this is the G4 (along with the dimension listed in the article) then I'll have to pass. The G3 is big enough for me as it is and the design looks to be iterative. This wouldn't be able to compete with the S6/edge design-wise. Plus, at the purported size, it would be more of a Note competitor.

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It appears they've increased the size of the sensor for the camera, which is great, but if this is the G4 (along with the dimension listed in the article) then I'll have to pass. The G3 is big enough for me as it is and the design looks to be iterative. This wouldn't be able to compete with the S6/edge design-wise. Plus, at the purported size, it would be more of a Note competitor.
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How would this be a Note 4 competitor? it has a supposed 5.3 inch screen, thats smaller than our g3's.

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How would this be a Note 4 competitor? it has a supposed 5.3 inch screen, thats smaller than our g3's.
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Just speaking to the size of the actual handset. It is supposedly bigger than the G3., and that's just getting into phablet territory.

Looks nice in my opinion. G3 backcover is good as it is. No need to change it radically on the G4.
Only thing that I dislike is that the size increased which will lead to a lower screen-to-body ratio (one reason why I bought the G3).
What do you think, will the G4 have a curved screen as it looks like on this rendering or is it just the backcover design or bad angle?

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Just speaking to the size of the actual handset. It is supposedly bigger than the G3., and that's just getting into phablet territory.
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Its a tiny amount though, you're talking millimeters here. The note 4 is 153.5mm in height, theres just too much speculation, LG have always had really good screen to bezel ratio and body size, take for example comparing the LG G3 to the Sony Z series. We'll see soon enough though.

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We'll see soon enough though.
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Official announcement expected when? This month?

Somewhere in April according to latest rumors. We can expect the new LG UX 4.0 this month.

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Official announcement expected when? This month?
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Should be announced by end of Q1 and released by Q2

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Its a tiny amount though, you're talking millimeters here. The note 4 is 153.5mm in height, theres just too much speculation, LG have always had really good screen to bezel ratio and body size, take for example comparing the LG G3 to the Sony Z series. We'll see soon enough though.
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The dimension I'm more worried about is the width as that will affect the in-hand feel moreso than the height. At 76.5 mm, it's 2 mm wider than the G3 and 2 mm narrower than the Note 4. I can barely reach my thumb over to the opposite side as it is. I think that increase in width would definitely put the G4 safely into the "2 handed device" category.
At those dimensions, I can't imagine the screen being smaller than the G3. And knowing how LG loves having a great screen to body ratio, I actually think the screen might be a bit larger. But at the end of the day, these are just rumoured dimensions. The final product will most likely not be this wide. It just doesn't seem to match up.

I might get it. G3 is big enough, but I want a note so i could go bigger. Unless the screen to body ratio is drastically reduced. Need those tight bezels.

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The dimension I'm more worried about is the width as that will affect the in-hand feel moreso than the height. At 76.5 mm, it's 2 mm wider than the G3 and 2 mm narrower than the Note 4. I can barely reach my thumb over to the opposite side as it is. I think that increase in width would definitely put the G4 safely into the "2 handed device" category.
At those dimensions, I can't imagine the screen being smaller than the G3. And knowing how LG loves having a great screen to body ratio, I actually think the screen might be a bit larger. But at the end of the day, these are just rumoured dimensions. The final product will most likely not be this wide. It just doesn't seem to match up.
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The reported specs make no sense at all lol tbh

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The reported specs make no sense at all lol tbh
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I agree. With rumours of a smaller screen, a larger body makes no sense at all, given LG's track record.

I just picked up a G3 mere minutes ago, so no.

G4 have to be with full metal jacket, no more plastics please! This is only a rumor nothing else and I hope thats not true. If LG wants to be concurent G4 IMHO must have things are:
- metal(aluminum) unibody housing
- microSD slot
- Smaller display
- front facing speaker(s)
- and maybe capacitive buttons.
If they go for plastic housing I'm not interested because G3 is good enough!

I don't care about design that much, but I think that it should be metal body and front facing speakers, and screen to body ratio on G3 is perfect, so it makes no sense to reduce it.. What do you think G4 vs S6/ S6 edge vs One M9?
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I don't care about design that much, but I think that it should be metal body and front facing speakers, and screen to body ratio on G3 is perfect, so it makes no sense to reduce it.. What do you think G4 vs S6/ S6 edge vs One M9?
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Personally, I'm not too impressed with what I'm seeing so far from the G4. Currently, I'm planning to pick up an S6 or S6 edge once it's released. The One M9 was unimpressive to me.

Not quite sure this is at all what it will be
Just saying:
its curved, G Flex territory, doubtful LG would do that
lock button is exactly the same as the original G Flex
Front is thesame as most mid-range phones LG anounced at MWC recently. Those were "knock-offs" of the G3(mid-range phones based of flagship), LG wont use that look on a completely knew flagship device
just sayin.....

Well i think G4 will have killer specs . On the other hand ,LG announced that will release something like a G Note thing that will be above the G series(specs probably) . If that rumor is confirmed later in 2015 i guess i wont upgrade from G3 to any flagship device like S6,M9, G4 etc.

If it has an OLED display of sorts then hell yeah. Although I do absolutely love my G3, I find the colours very underwhelming even when compared to my G2. The G2 screen, I find is arguably better with resolution aside.

Best Buy has em on display

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Go look it's pretty cool

How does it feel using it? Give feedback guys..

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How does it feel using it? Give feedback guys..
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I was there today and they had a demo with no straps or anything on it, it was an edge.
It is a lot smaller than it feels and it is light. It really is a pleasure to hold.
The focus is everything they claim it to be. No hunting, near instant focus. It will focus faster than you can, its crazy.
The edge goes down the sides a little more than the S6 edge, but since the back is sloped and they worked it the edge is not as sharp.

^what he said. Light to hold, one hand easy operation. Also was not red hot like the s6s on display
I really wanted to test the fingerprint security but they had it disabled in the menu

ibcenu said:
^what he said. Light to hold, one hand easy operation.
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Can your thumb reach the notification menu?

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Can your thumb reach the notification menu?
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Yes, I had a note 4, went to iPhone by mistake 6splus ....so maybe I'm used to the reach. It was was easier to handle over the 6s plus. Smaller in physical size as well

Taking the Edge features out of the equation, how do you think the general usage of the S7 vs the S7 Edge compares? I'm curious about how web pages, pics, videos, etc. look on the curved screen vs the flat S7. Do you really notice the curve in normal use?
Seeing as how the Edge is not much bigger physically and only 5g heavier than the S7, but with a considerably larger screen and battery, I'm considering the Edge even though I initially had no interest. I love the size of my S4, and the S7 is very similar in size, which is good, but it also weighs almost an ounce more, which I don't like.

hella356 said:
Taking the Edge features out of the equation, how do you think the general usage of the S7 vs the S7 Edge compares? I'm curious about how web pages, pics, videos, etc. look on the curved screen vs the flat S7. Do you really notice the curve in normal use?
Seeing as how the Edge is not much bigger physically and only 5g heavier than the S7, but with a considerably larger screen and battery, I'm considering the Edge even though I initially had no interest. I love the size of my S4, and the S7 is very similar in size, which is good, but it also weighs almost an ounce more, which I don't like.
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I only looked at the 7 for a short time. The screen is not that much smaller and would probably work for most.
My 1st thought was that the curve of the edge would be like wasted screen space, but after seeing it, it is not.
Coming from note4 the it would be hard for me to go to a smaller screen. I used to use my laptop at home all the time. Since having a larger screen on the phone, the laptop only comes out when it needs to.

I still think that though it is beautiful and a technological marvel, the edge is a gimmick and a slight disadvantage over a flat screen for reading, pic movies etc

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I still think that though it is beautiful and a technological marvel, the edge is a gimmick and a slight disadvantage over a flat screen for reading, pic movies etc
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How so? I've nearly had the edge for a year now and never had any issues with reading or movie watching. In fact I feel as if the edge enhances the movie watching experience.

Thanks. After seeing a number of articles & videos about the Edge capabilities, they don't look like anything I'd ever use. I briefly had a Note 3 and a G4, which were both too large & unwieldy for me as a daily driver. The Edge isn't significantly bigger bigger or heavier than the S7, but sports a phablet sized screen, so I guess I'll have to check it out for screen usefulness & one-handed use. I really don't care at all what a phone looks like.

hella356 said:
I guess I'll have to check it out for screen usefulness & one-handed use. I really don't care at all what a phone looks like.
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I felt the same way even though I pre ordered yesterday. I was skeptical, but was on for about 20 minutes @ Best Buy and know I made the right choice. For me anyway

I wonder if all Best Buy's have the demos out. I could call before heading out. My local Best Buy doesn't seem have very much demo wise.

I went to Best Buy. Impressive devices. My gut feeling is that the standard S7 will end up being my choice. I'll probably pick up the Edge at T-Mobile a few months after release (I want to see how the ROMs shake out) and try it out for a week or two before deciding if it's too big. The size was borderline for me, and the size of my old Note 3 just felt worse to me the longer I used it, so I'll need to have the option to return it. The Edge is very tall - Note-level height - and one-handed usage was not good. (I'm a 5'-8" male with average sized or slightly smaller hands.) Much better one-handed than the Note 3 and G4, but it was pushing the limits of my hands. To me, the curved screen was a bit disconcerting, but was better than I expected it to be as far as seeming distorted. I definitely like flat screens better, but I think I could live with the Edge in that regard. The standard S7 was of course much closer in size to my S4, although it was a fair bit taller, as well. Not enough to be problematic, although I consider the top & bottom bezel size of both devices to be too large, especially coming from the very compact S4. Not Apple-level gigantism, but a bit disappointing. The weight of the S7 was also noticeably greater than the S4, another negative. But all in all the physical characteristics were pretty good.
They looked great. My battered S4 looks perfectly fine to me, so obviously I don't really care, but credit where it's due. They had black and silver versions in the store. The silver looked pretty cool, but was horrendous for fingerprints, whereas the black was much better in that regard. They were also less slippery in the hand than I thought they might be, which was great.
Camera was way beyond any phone I've ever tried. Actually, I've never used a digital camera that was as quick and clear as the S7. The screen quality and brightness are also the best I've ever seen.

all I wonder is, if the fingerprint scanner is improved, even slightly, in the 7.

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all I wonder is, if the fingerprint scanner is improved, even slightly, in the 7.
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I went to try it and the option is locked out of the display model. I would have deleted it but makes sense for them to disable it. Peeps be locking it and walk away
I hope it works good. It's the ONLY thing I like from the iPhone.

I found the fingerprint scanner the same way. I did enable Developer mode, but it wouldn't let me actually active it. Understandable.

Welp, looks like I will be headed to BB after work today.

yea iphone has that advantage over us. best fingerprint scanner in the market i'd say.

Just played with the edge at BB. I made a great choice. Its slim and feels good in your hand.
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Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Google Pixel 4a, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Google Pixel 4a is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Not a bad little phone for the price. Too small for me though. I have a 3XL. I bought this for my girlfriend. It's faster than I thought it would be. Should be incredible on Android 11.
She's very apprehensive with the small size. She also has a 3XL with a very cracked screen. Not quite as fast as my 3XL but extremely smooth. I'm very impressed.
I'm on Android 11 Beta 3

Love the Punch hole. Very nice
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I'm trying not to play with it. Lol
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Excellent for one handed use . I want one. Yummy

Had anyone else found their actual reported battery capacity is not what Google claimed?
This is my only device not meeting claimed mAh (my system is reporting 3080)

matthewkuhl said:
Had anyone else found their actual reported battery capacity is not what Google claimed?
This is my only device not meeting claimed mAh (my system is reporting 3080)
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mine also says 3080

gmanhatesu said:
mine also says 3080
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Thank you
i emailed Google support about it and they just recited the spec capacity and spewed some advertising nonsense about that being a "big deal" number and to reach out again if i had any other questions. i reiterated that i wasn't getting that number from my system reporting and they have not replied.
Please, bring it up to Google support because this might be a widespread problem.

Mine says 3080 as well.... I don't think it is a big deal.

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Kwanger said:
Mine says 3080 as well.... I don't think it is a big deal.
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It's not a big deal...even if accurate. 2-3% difference. M'eh.

Yeah, the standing 3080 reported by accu battery seems to be inaccurate anyway. Now I've got a few charges on it the estimated battery capacity is higher 3300 or so........which in itself will be inaccurate as I believe the actual battery is probably as advertised. It's all semantics anyway..... What I do know is that battery life is way better than my outgoing 18 month old essential phone.
Now having used the 4a for a few days, it is solidifying my initial impressions of what a great phone for the money it is. Upgrade from my essential in every way, feels smoother, signal strength is better, it connects to my inbuilt android auto without a hitch. For me the size and weight of it is perfect..... going to be a keeper for sure.

This reminds me a lot of the Nexus 5 but without the flaws.
I really love this phone. The screen feels a lot larger than it is. Oled at this price is very nice. Decent stereo speakers. The snapdragon 730 is decent paired with 6 GB ram. Battery life is excellent considering the battery capacity.
The polycarbonate plastic body feels super solid and is light. The fingerprint scanner on the back is refreshing to use solving a problem that never needed to be solved with terrible in display fingerprint readers.
The camera is great.
3.5mm headphone jack.
This is the best Pixel I have used. My only complaint is I can't watch Netflix in fullscreen.

Here's my thoughts coming from Pixel 3a:
Screen is noticeably brighter outdoors.
Edge to edge is really nice, but the chins on the 3a give you somewhere to hold, whereas the 4a it's all screen and left holding it by edges a lot.
Fingerprint sensor got a huge upgrade, now works with completely wet finger, where the 3a had issues with slightly sweaty or wet finger, far less failed login attempts.
The edge to edge screen doesn't always fill the screen, like XFINITY Stream TV. Some apps will fill the right side of the screen, but the left side of the screen will be a square edge instead of filling to edge. This is probably my biggest gripe. Some apps do edge to edge fill properly, like YouTube, just wish all apps did this.
The screen is slightly warm in color, it has a tiny yellow tint to it, where the 3a is more neutral
The camera is very similar in color profile, has a slight warm tone, where the 3a feels more neutral
Great phone ruined by yellow glow over everything:
https://imgur.com/a/DWN527j
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/ienzi6/yellow_tint_on_pixel_4a_screen/
Not sure if because of cheap OLED, or bad calibration.

For the money it is the best phone out there and I do like it. Here are my complaints coming from an Xperia XZ1.
-My Xperia phones were always bulletproof. I only used glass protectors and never had a case. The Pixel 4a is not as strong. Already took a chunk out of the plastic but it's a budget phone. Still with no wireless charging give us an aluminum back.
-Screen is great for the money. The colors aren't perfect but it looks good and the refresh rate seems nice.
-I am a fan of a side sensor but the rear one is pretty responsive so I don't complain too much.
-I HATE THE BOTTOM SPEAKER HOLES! I hold my phone with my pinky under the bottom and it digs into my skin. I will get used to it but it's annoying. Make the holes not so sharp or do something else. I have never been a fan of bottom mounted speakers.
-The camera is amazing for the money. Exceptional value.
-The software has been great and the new android update has made it even smoother.
Overall it is the phone that the Exceptional phone should have been. I had one of those and wanted to love it but the display was garbage. I can get over the stuff I hate on this phone because of the price.

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Still with no wireless charging give us an aluminum back.
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My preference leans toward textured plastic. Arguably lighter, less likely to dent, not a finger print magnet, potentially easier to hold with finger tips. So done with fragile glass and metal sandwiches. It's a phone not a fashion statement .
I suppose this (if true) would be the counter argument: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-4a/help/cover-4a-discoloration-problems-t4163637/post83511081

DB126 said:
My preference leans toward textured plastic. Arguably lighter, less likely to dent, not a finger print magnet, potentially easier to hold with finger tips. So done with fragile glass and metal sandwiches. It's a phone not a fashion statement .
I suppose this (if true) would be the counter argument: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-4a/help/cover-4a-discoloration-problems-t4163637/post83511081
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I am so over glass backs too but my XZ1 has the best metal back. Its textured so easy to hold and has never dented. Sure it is scratched as hell but I never babied it. Plastic would never hold up to that amount of damage. That is my only concern but I also paid a lot more for the XZ1 as well.

i received my Pixel 4a yesterday. Android 11 was waiting for me in KSA. Overall best device in back camera, display, touch response and off course software. Front camera is normal. Not good in games but can be bearable. Battery SOT is 8 to 9 hours. Upgraded from P40 pro. Wishes it should have better chipset atleast.

Pretty happy with the phone overall. Size is perfect and battery life is still good enough for me. I had a OnePlus 6t before this so most say it's a downgrade and in some ways it is but for the camera improvement and still having all day battery life and to actually get updates is a big plus over a big screen and battery and I don't we even more the difference in chipsets . It's a solid A to me hopefully they make more like this.

I owned flagship devices, top of the line processor, etc....
I was an idiot.
The Pixel 4a does everything I need to do and I save maybe $800 dollars.
Sure run a bench mark and the device will be very far behind the latest Samsung device but in real life the games I played and apps I ran all run fine.
The camera is the best !!! One thing Pixel does well is camera software processing.
I take photos with various devices and the colour of the Google shots is more natural, most camera add a cooling effect which you do not see in real life. Astro photography love putting my camera on a tripod and seeing what I get.
What do I lose wireless charging ? Not a big deal if it means I save $800
Water resistance, never been an issue
Miss a wide screen camera but for what I save just the normal camera is fine.
5G battery hog, not available everywhere "will want it next time"
Found out the phone's software automatically blocks Robo calls !!!! Wow I love you goggle.
Getting fast updates, and no bloat rounds of the reasons this device is for me.

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I owned flagship devices, top of the line processor, etc....
I was an idiot.
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Not necessarily. Until recently (let's call it the last 2 years) mid-range phones were a distinct step down from flagships. I had a hunch the curve would flip when the iPhone X and similar Samsungs came out which attempted to push the acceptable price point into the 4-digit range (USD). Ridiculous for a hand held gizmo that gets replaced every 2-3 years. Not to mention the giant form factor which didn't work for everyone. Be interesting to see where we are two years from now. Flagships will still exist but may not be the must-haves they once were.

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What Accubattery Pro actually shows... View attachment 5088261
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This is what shows in my device