For Xperia Z2 users who are changing mobile , say bye bye here and share your experience.
first is mine
I was like a brand embassidor for SONY, but but but
my fist device upto last
1.Sony ericsson K508i
2.Sony Ericsson K 700
3. .Sony Ericsson w700
4..Sony Ericsson W705
5. .Sony Ericsson xperia ARC S
6. .Sony Xperia Z2
upto 5th i was really very very happy, but Z2 has disaapointed me in shape and charger point cover quality and in sound performance as well
so now
switched to HTC one M8, and i am really happy with this one at the moment.
share your opinion:laugh:
No doubt that xperia phones have hardware problems. Actually to many problems that can make Sony shut down their whole mobile division (I know it is not the reason but it plays a big role)
Not buying a 64bit phone, bad choice, bad buy.
If I sell this phone, I'll buy a 64bit phone, if u buy a m8... That's a downgrade dude.
My upgrade is due in March, Im in two minds, at the moment, I've had xperia T, xperia Z, and Z2, but I don't know wether to get the HTC M9, or the Z4 :/, so different but so similar
Z4 should have a Snapdragon 810 which id love to have but im going to wait till my Z2 hits 2 years old
14 months from now
Snaodragon 810 = 2 Quadcores @ 2.8Ghz, 64Bit CPU
Envious_Data said:
Z4 should have a Snapdragon 810 which id love to have but im going to wait till my Z2 hits 2 years old
14 months from now
Snaodragon 810 = 2 Quadcores @ 2.8Ghz, 64Bit CPU
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I'm actually with you on this one. I got my Z2 at the end of September last year, so it is about 5 months old. I know it will survive for another 12-18 months easily, my first android phone that I will have had for over a year before switching to another one, all my other ones have been budget ones (Galaxy Y GT-S5363, Xperia Miro ST23i, Xperia M C1905). By the time you or I upgrade I'm sure there will be a better processor out and being used.
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I'm actually with you on this one. I got my Z2 at the end of September last year, so it is about 5 months old. I know it will survive for another 12-18 months easily, my first android phone that I will have had for over a year before switching to another one, all my other ones have been budget ones (Galaxy Y GT-S5363, Xperia Miro ST23i, Xperia M C1905). By the time you or I upgrade I'm sure there will be a better processor out and being used.
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True that but the 810 is now and its quite amazing till something Steps over it
Perhaps the S811 may be the croun victor like it was 801 to the 800 although having a somewhat "better" 805 youngling
Though Im definately staying with Sony
My First Android being a Xperia S and my 2nd android phone being a Xperia Z2
I had a Nokia 3310 and N95 Before my Xperia S
Maybe if i find a Nexus I Like more ill go to that but for now Xperias It is.
Envious_Data said:
True that but the 810 is now and its quite amazing till something Steps over it
Perhaps the S811 may be the croun victor like it was 801 to the 800 although having a somewhat "better" 805 youngling
Though Im definately staying with Sony
My First Android being a Xperia S and my 2nd android phone being a Xperia Z2
I had a Nokia 3310 and N95 Before my Xperia S
Maybe if i find a Nexus I Like more ill go to that but for now Xperias It is.
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I've seen some of the specs on the 810 and it is a fantastic piece of kit. Probably 18-24 months before a 'better' processor takes over it, possibly earlier though (technology is advancing at an amazing pace, even for a 19 year old ).
Since I had the Xperia Miro I fell in love with Sony phones and will be sticking with them for the considerable future. The only time I think I will swap to another brand is if the Sony mobile division is going/has gone under. Then I will swap to the Nexus range because I don't like the design and UI on any other manufacturers.
gamer649 said:
I've seen some of the specs on the 810 and it is a fantastic piece of kit. Probably 18-24 months before a 'better' processor takes over it, possibly earlier though (technology is advancing at an amazing pace, even for a 19 year old ).
Since I had the Xperia Miro I fell in love with Sony phones and will be sticking with them for the considerable future. The only time I think I will swap to another brand is if the Sony mobile division is going/has gone under. Then I will swap to the Nexus range because I don't like the design and UI on any other manufacturers.
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Im sort of standing above tech, i love to learn how new things work.
Especialy seeing whats left to do and whats been done
Look at Project Tango
Envious_Data said:
Im sort of standing above tech, i love to learn how new things work.
Especialy seeing whats left to do and whats been done
Look at Project Tango
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I love learning more about tech, like how it works. I prefer starting with the older stuff first as a lot of newer stuff uses the bases for how it works. There is still a lot what we can get from tech.
The project tango looks really cool, although I can't see the practicality for a fully able eyed person. For a blind or hard of sight person it is a really cool thing as it can be used to track the space around them and give some sort of feedback to them to let them know what objects are around them. I'm sure that at some point we will be using cameras in addition to neurological implants to allow blind/hard of sight people to actually see. The only problems with that would be that they wouldn't be 100% safe from hacking, the implants may have to be replaced often, the cameras would have to be super high quality, and clothing or other objects could obscure the view of the cameras.
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I love learning more about tech, like how it works. I prefer starting with the older stuff first as a lot of newer stuff uses the bases for how it works. There is still a lot what we can get from tech.
The project tango looks really cool, although I can't see the practicality for a fully able eyed person. For a blind or hard of sight person it is a really cool thing as it can be used to track the space around them and give some sort of feedback to them to let them know what objects are around them. I'm sure that at some point we will be using cameras in addition to neurological implants to allow blind/hard of sight people to actually see. The only problems with that would be that they wouldn't be 100% safe from hacking, the implants may have to be replaced often, the cameras would have to be super high quality, and clothing or other objects could obscure the view of the cameras.
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Project Tango is wonderful
It can be used for so many things its just absurd, Games, Helping people see, environment aware robots,
Add holograms to the mix we can turn entire spaces into gaming areas, or even try playing Paintball with Project Tango in the mix
Future phones have alot too look upto, especialy with recent development in holograms and also with project Tango.
Envious_Data said:
Project Tango is wonderful
It can be used for so many things its just absurd, Games, Helping people see, environment aware robots,
Add holograms to the mix we can turn entire spaces into gaming areas, or even try playing Paintball with Project Tango in the mix
Future phones have alot too look upto, especialy with recent development in holograms and also with project Tango.
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I do think that holograms will catch on, it is a great little piece of tech. One thing I don't think will catch on is these 'multi-layer' hologram screen what sci-fi/futuristic movies keep showing us.
With future phones it all depends on adoption rates, if hardly anybody uses the technology or people actively avoid it then it will be scrapped. I don't think many consumers would see the potential in things like project tango or holograms in standard consumer devices (although it is definitely something I would like to see). One thing Sony definitely needs to adopt is a reversible magnetic charger or fully wireless charging. The former stops people shorting the phone by accident.
gamer649 said:
I do think that holograms will catch on, it is a great little piece of tech. One thing I don't think will catch on is these 'multi-layer' hologram screen what sci-fi/futuristic movies keep showing us.
With future phones it all depends on adoption rates, if hardly anybody uses the technology or people actively avoid it then it will be scrapped. I don't think many consumers would see the potential in things like project tango or holograms in standard consumer devices (although it is definitely something I would like to see). One thing Sony definitely needs to adopt is a reversible magnetic charger or fully wireless charging. The former stops people shorting the phone by accident.
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Well lets see
Holograms are useful and usless, they are useful in the respect that it makes a realy cool bed side alarm clock
Its useful that it makes a windshield GPS for your car
Or its useful that it combined with project tango alows you to see an environment without needing to be there
Project tango is useful when it comes to games and paintball like stuff
Project tango actualy makes use of games, the Nintendo Wii was a fail because you dont have to move, project tango alows you to be suprized.
These things are useless and useful to people
Its like TV back ways way when it was invented wasnt seen as useful but it is.
Same goes with facebook. We can use phones to call.
Nope the internet provides.
Envious_Data said:
Well lets see
Holograms are useful and usless, they are useful in the respect that it makes a realy cool bed side alarm clock
Its useful that it makes a windshield GPS for your car
Or its useful that it combined with project tango alows you to see an environment without needing to be there
Project tango is useful when it comes to games and paintball like stuff
Project tango actualy makes use of games, the Nintendo Wii was a fail because you dont have to move, project tango alows you to be suprized.
These things are useless and useful to people
Its like TV back ways way when it was invented wasnt seen as useful but it is.
Same goes with facebook. We can use phones to call.
Nope the internet provides.
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For windscreen holograms, that is a useful part for them. Hologram keyboards would be useful too, a lot of space saving.
And if you couple project tango with holograms, you could have an ideal project for planning hostage rescues, bomb defusals etc.
All technology depends on the adoption rates, and people will tend to adopt it if they see a big name endorsing it. If Samsung or apple were to introduce a new 'innovative' piece of technology, many people would still be reluctant to buy it. But if a big star like Jay-Z, Beyonce, Lady Gaga, etc were to use it and give positive reviews on the technology it would more likely be adopted.
gamer649 said:
For windscreen holograms, that is a useful part for them. Hologram keyboards would be useful too, a lot of space saving.
And if you couple project tango with holograms, you could have an ideal project for planning hostage rescues, bomb defusals etc.
All technology depends on the adoption rates, and people will tend to adopt it if they see a big name endorsing it. If Samsung or apple were to introduce a new 'innovative' piece of technology, many people would still be reluctant to buy it. But if a big star like Jay-Z, Beyonce, Lady Gaga, etc were to use it and give positive reviews on the technology it would more likely be adopted.
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In this case its upto google when it comes to phone tech
They and qualcomm dictate what comes to phones typically
Lets say Nexus 6 2016 was to have all these Project Tango camera tech
Im fairly certain if it kicks off well it will stay popular
Though note this - google is intentionaly keeping project tango unadvertized,
I swished to Note 4 from z2, realy love Sony this my first Samsung in my life, i hope z4 come strongly
I just upgraded from an Xperia S to the Z2. I've tested Samsung phones before but I really like Sony's devices (especially the ease with installing custom ROMs).
The only phone i would upgrade to from a z2 is the z3 or note 4. The m8 is a downgrade but glad you are happy.
A LOT of people offered me to exchange their M8 for my Z2. I am just in love with the m8, it was my dream phone, but i refuse the exchange in the last minute. i think it's a downgrade and no one likes a downgrade.
Z2 is my first sony device, second android device. 1 month old but i am loving it. it's not perfect but it does it's job perfectly. it's hard to leave it as i am not complaining about anything in this device. "except the sharp edges (all the Z2 problems in my opinion are in the design, and they are all fixed on Z3)"
and i think the Z2 can handle the next 20 months perfectly without any problem. it's has a beast specs.
I am waiting M9. i am pretty sure it will be my next device, and i hope that M9 will be just awesome like M8. I started saving for buying m9 a while ago.
good luck with m8 it's awesome phone.
Actually I switched to Xperia Z2 from HTC one M8 because of its build quality issues and the regenersis repair center. I never gonna buy HTC phone again. I don't like plastic phones with crap audio so I'm not gonna buy LG, Samsung or Apple phone either. The only option for me is to wait for Z4 or to buy Motorola Nexus.
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Root is hard than bricking the iphone. (does it mean a better security from SE)
The rest people know...
If you post this kind of topics in a XDA X10 specific forum, you should see what are the replies coming ...
As much as i don't like general Apple marketing strategy, i am not that cocky as many other WM and Android users that will surely tell you things like... Android rules!!!!! Get your iWhatever and go play with your useless toy!!! YEAHH!!!
In the end, i think each platform is targeted to a whole different market. Hard to say X is better than Y... it depends much on the point of view you compare from...
Agree!!!!
Iphone is for lemmings
WM and BlackBerry is for Business People
Android is for moders, hackers, people that like to be unique
Symbian is still out there but sadly its dying slowly
Moved is too short!
iPhone = users that are new to smartphones.. it's simple, easy to use and no customization involved other than changing wallpaper. Turn it on and you're ready to go.
Windows Mobile: A lot of features.. so many features which makes it hard to use or in other words, need to spend more time to get used to it.
Blackberry: Business users
Android: A bit of both of iPhone OS and Windows Mobile. It's easier to use than Windows Mobile but have the features which allows a lot of customization. I would say it's a hybrid.
I got both. The Iphone 4 16GB and the X10i. I have to say that both are awesome in design, usage and speed. But I love the X10 more because of the known reasons: modding, not every kid got one, Sony and 1 or 2 more.
But as we all know: savours differ.
bLack_Q said:
I got both. The Iphone 4 16GB and the X10i. I have to say that both are awesome in design, usage and speed. But I love the X10 more because of the known reasons: modding, not every kid got one, Sony and 1 or 2 more.
But as we all know: savours differ.
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How does camera quality compare ?
bLack_Q said:
I got both. The Iphone 4 16GB and the X10i. I have to say that both are awesome in design, usage and speed. But I love the X10 more because of the known reasons: modding, not every kid got one, Sony and 1 or 2 more.
But as we all know: savours differ.
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Please compare in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711062
I don't know if it's a fair question. From what I see, there's no perfect phone on the market. Everyone has their own use cases and some devices will be a better fit for some people than others. I think you'll find that both devices are excellent smartphones regardless of what you choose.
Ultimately, you have to make the decision for yourself of what is a better fit for you. The best thing you can do is make a list of your own requirements of what you expect from your phone in terms of actual usage scenarios and then map that against the features of any particular phone.
In cases like the USA, the iPhone 4, while awesome, is less attractive because you can only use it to its full potential on a crappy network that now has limited data plans (AT&T).
I don't even consider the two products in the same category since they have such different end-to-end experiences. The original poster may want to describe in a phone so people can offer more helpful customized responses.
I don't believe in iPhone anymore (also I own MacBook and previous owner for the iPhone)
Please take your time in reading the below articles about the new iPhone and give me your feedback
Holding the phone in a wrong way
http://www.gsmarena.com/you_are_holding_your_iphone_4_the_wrong_way_you_know-news-1763.php
Yellow Spots on the screen
http://www.gsmarena.com/iphone_4_launch_day_stories__yellow_spots_spotty_reception-news-1761.php
Shame on Apple, my advice to them is to concentrate only on Laptops/PCs/Ipod but mobiles NO
vrs2610 said:
Agree!!!!
Iphone is for lemmings
WM and BlackBerry is for Business People
Android is for moders, hackers, people that like to be unique
Symbian is still out there but sadly its dying slowly
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totally agree with you
Another articles regarding the Apple Hardware (supposed to be anti-scratch)
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Apple-iPhone-4-be-careful-not-to-drop-it-article-a_12131.html
I'm a real Sony fan but I just got the iPhone 4 and I can tell you now the iPhone 4 blows the x10 out of The water. the battery life is stellar, Tue camera is way better for the average user, the camera is quicker, hd video recording is flawless. The iPhone 4 games are just brilliant, there is nothing sluggish in the iPhone 4s software. The x10 has way more issues than the iPhone 4. The whole antenna thing has been blown way out of proportion and there are no yellow screen issues on mine. The only thing I miss are the widgets and the Google integration. If SE sort Tue problems out real quick then I will go back to the x10 as I love the hardware, but until that day comes The iPhone 4 wins.
Sent from my iPhone 4.
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I'm a real Sony fan but I just got the iPhone 4 and I can tell you now the iPhone 4 blows the x10 out of The water. the battery life is stellar, Tue camera is way better for the average user, the camera is quicker, hd video recording is flawless. The iPhone 4 games are just brilliant, there is nothing sluggish in the iPhone 4s software. The x10 has way more issues than the iPhone 4. The whole antenna thing has been blown way out of proportion and there are no yellow screen issues on mine. The only thing I miss are the widgets and the Google integration. If SE sort Tue problems out real quick then I will go back to the x10 as I love the hardware, but until that day comes The iPhone 4 wins.
Sent from my iPhone 4.
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Hang on, you say the iPhone 4 is divine in it's epicness yet you still will return to the X10 once some minor bugs that are already fixed are sorted? Yikes.
For me as a developer the iPhone isn't even a choice atm, releasing software for it is akin to trying to develop blindfolded and deaf. You can't ask others for help, you can't read up on the requirements for distributing your apps etc.
I used to be an iPhone developer but I went to the better platform for good a while back. It may be "slicker" for the average user but for me as an information political activist and developer it's a defínite no go.
yep I'm a Sony fanboy at heart, my house is full of Sony gear!
I'm just not that die-hard that I have to stick with the x10i until generic firmwares, 2.1 etc is out, and am pretty annoyed at how se smartphone users get ignored, and also where's he promised Psn integration on all newest phones 2010 onwards. Sent from my iPhone 4
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yep I'm a Sony fanboy at heart, my house is full of Sony gear!
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Just my 2 cents... Sony Ericsson =/= Sony
I think most of the stuff at SE is directed more by Ericsson whereas Sony just licenses some media features like walkman brand etc.
j4mm3r said:
Just my 2 cents... Sony Ericsson =/= Sony
I think most of the stuff at SE is directed more by Ericsson whereas Sony just licenses some media features like walkman brand etc.
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That's pretty much it. Ericsson has been making phones for 30+ years, it was just recently that they were bought by Sony and started tacking on the walkman bits. The phone department is just Sony by name or association, it's all Ericsson.
Posted some pics in the comparison thread. Check them out.
The iPhone always leaves something to be desired. It's such a great platform but there are tiny quirks that make it unbareable to use. The limitations that Apple imposes angers me to no end!!
The iPhone is a phone that could ALMOST rock the mobile market but it doesnt. That's why I moved to using Android phones. There are less limitations and much more freedom. There isn't as much support or popularity but the communities online are much more tighter knit and there are far less idiots and fan boys. I love everything about Android
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I'm a real Sony fan but I just got the iPhone 4 and I can tell you now the iPhone 4 blows the x10 out of The water. the battery life is stellar, Tue camera is way better for the average user, the camera is quicker, hd video recording is flawless. The iPhone 4 games are just brilliant, there is nothing sluggish in the iPhone 4s software. The x10 has way more issues than the iPhone 4. The whole antenna thing has been blown way out of proportion and there are no yellow screen issues on mine. The only thing I miss are the widgets and the Google integration. If SE sort Tue problems out real quick then I will go back to the x10 as I love the hardware, but until that day comes The iPhone 4 wins.
Sent from my iPhone 4.
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Enjoy your iPhone 4 that can't use widget, can't use the phone as an external harddrive, can't use it as a real web browsing device because it doesn't have flash, can't decide over you own phone because Apple have to decide what's best and not so good for you.
Oh also, have you seen this?: http://theiphonefever.blogspot.com/p/idont-list.html. Again, enjoy your iPhone 4 lol.
Now, you say you can get much more batterytime with the iPhone 4 over the XPERIA X10?. Ok, tell me how many hours you can get out of the iPhone 4 before it's out of power?.
I know even before you tell me this that my XPERIA X10 just blows your iPhone 4 out of the water in battery time.
And when your gonna use the phone as a web browsing device, for GPS, and to watch movies then 4 inch screen -> 3.5 inch screen any days.
Oh i heard your pictures that your transfering over via iTunes looks just beautifull lol. Try and zoon in on your pictures after they are moved over to your iPhone 4 via iTunes.
Isn't that cool?.
Now tell me something iPhone 4 have that my Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 doesn't have?.
I am planning to buy a new unlocked phone within 10 days. I have the following options:
Xperia Z2($500)
Xperia Z3 Compact ($600)
Galaxy Alpha ($500)
iPhone 5S ($550)
I had made up my mind for the Xperia Z2. It is the most balanced phone providing adequate power, battery life, decent camera, storage, etc. but recently I came to know about the over heating & self cracking screen issues with the Z2( or the entire Z series including the Z3 & Z3 compact). There are quite a lot of reports of the glass on the phone cracking. Also that the phone overheats a lot. I am worried as whatever I buy, I'll have to stick with it for 2 years. Sony has refused warranty in most cases related to this issue. Same issue plagues the Z3 Compact
I recently had a look at the Samsung Galaxy Alpha. It's a good looking and decent device and offers all that I want. The primary drawback is the battery life of the phone and to some extent the pentile matrix display.
The iPhone 5S is also a good phone though it does have a smaller display. It has the best camera among all the devices I have mentioned.
So I ask you people for your opinion. Which device should I buy?
I am not a heavy user. My daily usage includes a couple of hours of offline music, roughly 1-1.5 hours of web browsing, average messaging, a couple of photos and some pandora in the evening while connected to my bluetooth speaker. I don't play games much on my phone. Maybe an hour of cumulative gaming in 3-4 days.
I am still willing to buy the Z2 if the overheating and cracking issues aren't that widespread. I have nothing against iOS or Android. I use an android phone along with an iPad Air. So no issues there. So please be neutral in your opinions( don't start bashing the iPhone). And please feel free to suggest any other phone that you think is good ( please avoid the HTC One M8 and LG G3)
I personally have the z2 and love it. The main thing boils down to design and ui you will have no issues with battery life based on your usage. Apple and ios is its own thing all together if you prefer ios as a daily driver go for the iPhone as for the Android devices Samsung is plagued by there touchwiz ui where as Sony is pretty much stock android with a few added things for the camera and Walkman app etc. The z2 is a large device there is no denying that however the larger screen if you don't mind the phone being bigger is a big advantage for just about everything. It's easier to type on and makes Web browsing easier. I haven't had any issues with mine in terms of defects. One big advantage with the Android devices is the sd card. Although you may not need it at the moment if you have got the phone for 2 years it's great to be able to expand the storage if needed. I would recommend popping into a phone shop and playing with the phones and see what you like best as everybody is different. Hope this helps you.
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I personally have the z2 and love it. The main thing boils down to design and ui you will have no issues with battery life based on your usage. Apple and ios is its own thing all together if you prefer ios as a daily driver go for the iPhone as for the Android devices Samsung is plagued by there touchwiz ui where as Sony is pretty much stock android with a few added things for the camera and Walkman app etc. The z2 is a large device there is no denying that however the larger screen if you don't mind the phone being bigger is a big advantage for just about everything. It's easier to type on and makes Web browsing easier. I haven't had any issues with mine in terms of defects. One big advantage with the Android devices is the sd card. Although you may not need it at the moment if you have got the phone for 2 years it's great to be able to expand the storage if needed. I would recommend popping into a phone shop and playing with the phones and see what you like best as everybody is different. Hope this helps you.
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Thank you for your opinion. I have been to various stores and tried the devices. My major concern is the cracking, which cannot be tried in the store. Since you have a Z2, maybe you can elaborate your usage a bit. How long have you had the device? Also does the device overheat?
Also, what would be your next preference, after the Z2 (out of the 4)?
Hey, welcome to the Z2 forums.
First and foremost let me say that my phone is from the 14W28 batch, meaning it was produced between 7th July 2014 and the 13th July 2014 (both dates are inclusive). Also I am running a ExistenZ made by @niaboc79 which may have sorted some problems I may have faced if I hadn't have installed it.
The first worry you have with the phone is overheating, with my phone in particular I have not encountered any overheating problems with normal usage. The hottest it usually gets to is 50C or so. When the phone is on charge it does get slightly hotter if and when I use it, although it has never gotten past 60C. I don't think it is fair to compare the heat from usage of this phone to the Xperia M but I would like to point out when I was using the Xperia M normally the phone would hit 60C-65C and when I tried to use the phone on charge it was hitting 70C-75C. And thus I don't think there is much of a 'problem', although the constant heating and cooling down of the rear panel could contribute to it cracking. (Side note; I also did a 4K video record test to see how hot the phone could go/how long I could record for, I managed 10 minutes before I accidentally closed off the recording and the hottest the phone got was 60C and it cooled off quite quickly.)
The second worry you have with the phone is the self-cracking issues. Again, I haven't encountered any problems with the phone cracking. I do keep it in a case to be safe. However, I have knocked it off of my bedside table during the night quite a few times but still no scratches nor cracks on the front (due to my screen protector) and no scratches nor cracks on the rear of the phone either. It is possible that the self cracking phones were put under 'stressful' situations like tight pockets, rapid cooling and heating, often drops/falls or maybe it could just have been a problem with the earlier batches (mine may still be subject to these issues as it is from about 2 months after the release of the phone).
I have now had my phone for 2 weeks and I am happy as Larry with it. I manage to easily get 1 day battery out of the phone (this is only cause I use it a lot at night before I charge it). If you want my opinion on what other phone I would go for after the Z2 it would be the iPhone 5S.
Having just gone though a similar decision process, I feel I am qualified to answer.
Obviously, since I am reading this forum, I went with the Z2
I also do not like the idea of a glass back. It almost made me avoid this phone. I just don't see the advantage - Thicker, heavier, slippery, and it doubles the chance of cracking.
Note that in my research, I did not see that there is any greater chance of the screen cracking on the Z2 than other similar phones, just that there is the addition of the back cracking, which doubles the statistics.
On the plus side, the Z2 was basically the only phone out there (at all) that "Checked all the boxes"
Must - haves:
4.4.x
All bands 3G and 4G
stereo speakers
NFC - Can use Google Wallet
Other "Icing on the cake"
Looks good.
1080p screen
Good Cameras
Waterproof
Other phones I was considering:
Oppo Find 7
One Plus
Xaiomi Mi3
Huawei P7
HTC One M8
I should mention that the Vertu Signature Touch (Pure Jet Calf, preferably) was the only other phone that really met all my specifications (3G/4G bands, 1080P, NFC, 4.4. stereo speakers), but even after doing a really good job of looking under the cushions of the sofa, I wasn't quite in a position to buy a $10,000 phone.
First of all, congrats for buying a new phone, having a new phone is always exciting to me.
I own a Xperia Z2, and previously owned an iPhone 5s and a galaxy S5. So as you, I don't have any concern about iOS and android.
So, let me begin with Xperia Z2. The Z2 is one of the best phones I'd ever owned, as the battery life is great, I think photos are better with this than with the iPhone 5s, it looks great, the stock UI is easy and stylish, Sony developed great tweaks such as ClearAudio or Stamina Mode and there are lots of development for this. Personally, I had problems with proximity sensor, but it was solved after I flashed a custom rom, and I'm happy after that. No overheating problems or cracking.
I consider Z3 Mini, the expensive version of Z2, as the specs are almost the same but in a smaller case, so If you want to stay with Sony, I would go for the Z2.
The iPhone 5s is such a great device, I consider this also one of the best phones I'd ever owned (Under the Z2). Camera is great, battery life is average, iOS is well balanced and stylish, tons of accessories specially designed for iPhone, and well... is an iPhone.
The Galaxy Alpha looks gorgeous and high-end, almost as an iPhone, the specs are average for the price. I think you are paying more for design than for specs. It's pretty though. In my own opinion, I don't like TouchWiz, so I will put this in the last option.
I would buy it in this way:
- Xperia Z2
- iPhone 5s
- Xperia Z3 Mini
- Galaxy Alpha
If you accept recommendations and if you want a high-end device at low prices, look for the OnePlus One. The negative aspect of this, is that you need an invitation to buy one (I have one, if you want).
Let us know which was your decision.
What about LG G3?
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The overheating problem with 4k video has greatly improved with software updates. Not so much an issue now. The build quality issues are never general. Luck of the draw I suppose!
The z2's got the best overall specifications on your list of devices. It's a great phone with no weaknesses side from the auto mode of the camera. Learn to use manual controls and you'll soon lose the impression that the 5S has a better camera.
Considering that is the cheapest on your list, I'd say it's a no brainier. Best phone, cheapest price! What more could you ask for. You have Sony's insane 6 month cycle policy to thank for being able to buy the z2 at such a price.
Trust me, in no way are any of the other devices on your list worth more than the z2.
That's One thing to bear in mind though when purchasing Sony devices. They don't hold their value for very long because of the rate at which Sony releases flagship phones so don't expect good resale prices should you decide to sell it on one day.
So if the rapid devaluation in value isn't an issue for you, the z2 is the one and only real choice you have. Unless, that is, you want to settle for less and pay more for the privilege lol
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As far as i can tell, ive owned two z2s... The self cracking is an earlier build issue.
My 2nd one has had no issues.
Also after some fighting with sony and getting the better business bureau involved sony fixed the first one at no cost.
Self cracking is an issue for a small, but vocal, minority so can be ignored. overheating similarly isn't an issue for most users in normal usage, sure Z2 gets warm but what superphone doesn't only real issue is if you want to record long videos in 4k,which if you bear in mind most phones are limited to 4 minutes is a problem whatever device you get. Z3 compact will likely be more prone to overheating, much the same hardware in a smaller package.
As for iPhone 6,if it fits your criteria and you can live with its closed environment go with it, an android device probably isn't for you anyway.
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Self cracking is an issue for a small, but vocal, minority so can be ignored. overheating similarly isn't an issue for most users in normal usage, sure Z2 gets warm but what superphone doesn't only real issue is if you want to record long videos in 4k,which if you bear in mind most phones are limited to 4 minutes is a problem whatever device you get. Z3 compact will likely be more prone to overheating, much the same hardware in a smaller package.
As for iPhone 6,if it fits your criteria and you can live with its closed environment go with it, an android device probably isn't for you anyway.
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What makes you think android devices are not for me?
I just found out about this phone and I am in a similar situation as the OP.
I am looking for a used/new phone for less than $500 dollars, has an above average camera, good battery life, and no lag issues.
Currently, I am using HTC one m7. A few problems with it is that a camera is super slow and crappy at low light situations. The camera takes like 1-2 seconds to focus on the subjects in dark environments. Next, the phone lags and hiccups quite a bit. I've tried a few custom roms but the performance is still not flawless.
In the past, I have owned an iPhone 5 and it was great except I got tired of the OS, that's why I went back to android. iPhone took best pictures in my opinion. The camera was fast. The phone did not have any hiccups. One big thing I noticed going from iPhone to HTC was that songs don't skip as fast as on the iPhone. It takes a split second more for songs to skip in an HTC music player. It kinda took time to get used to it again. I would consider getting the iPhone 6, but it is too expensive.
I am also considering oneplus one, m8, and maybe moto x or nexus 5. But overall, I think z2 is the best all-round performer.
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What makes you think android devices are not for me?
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With iPhone everything is designed to just work, if it doesn't tough ****. Android, still IMHO, lacks the polish but there are almost always work around to any major issues.
In my experience the people willing to work around androids foibles find the locked down world of iOS too constrained, and those who put up with those constraints find the fiddling with android to get it set up to their liking too much. But that's just my take on it.
I was kinda skeptical too after reading about all those Issues but still bought the Z2 1 month ago and I couldn't be happier.
No heating issues, no call issues, no cracking glass (so far)
Everything works flawlessly ?
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I had made up my mind for the Xperia Z2. It is the most balanced phone providing adequate power, battery life, decent camera, storage, etc. but recently I came to know about the over heating & self cracking screen issues with the Z2( or the entire Z series including the Z3 & Z3 compact). There are quite a lot of reports of the glass on the phone cracking. Also that the phone overheats a lot. I am worried as whatever I buy, I'll have to stick with it for 2 years. Sony has refused warranty in most cases related to this issue. Same issue plagues the Z3 Compact
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Self-cracking is not a thing. If it was, you'd be seeing the forum flooded with complaints, not just a handful of people moaning.
Those claiming self-cracking most likely damaged it themselves through abuse, possibly knowingly, or possibly not.
Just wondering if you will be getting rid of your Xperia phone now that Xperia is gone.
Xperia is not gone yet. Even if Sony sells the division, we don't know what will change.
Why would we sell the phone just because of that?
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Just wondering if you will be getting rid of your Xperia phone now that Xperia is gone.
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Now that it's gone??
O really is it!? Source!
It's been only rumors and you're acting as if anything conclusive has been said.
And even if Xperia is gone, so what. We're on XDA where we can make our own ROM's. Many of us payed +400$ for their devices, it's not as if we have another 400+ just laying around to buy another phone.
Ok so following your reasoning I should get rid of my Nokia 3210?
I was just wondering because there could be a lack of future updates/support and whatnot depending on how and where the division ends up. This is my first Android experience and don't want to mess with custom ROMs and stuff (at least for now).
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No, of course not! I would not sell this phone as there's no better option from any other manufacturers at this format, and I really like the phone.
No reasons until it's working and specially if the community is still active on it. In my optinion one of the best phone ever.
Oh snap I best sell my house quick because the brick company has gone.. Doh!
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I was just wondering because there could be a lack of future updates/support and whatnot depending on how and where the division ends up. This is my first Android experience and don't want to mess with custom ROMs and stuff (at least for now).
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Sony said the phone will get the Lollipop update, in addition an Xperia Z4 should be released (and the last one according to the rumor) that mean that for at a least a year updates should come. Then even if it is not updated to the next major release of Android (after Lollipop) and the community do not make a custom ROM it will still be fine with upcoming apps for another year or so. Also the Z3 uses widely spread components (Qualcomm SOC) so it should not be that are to adapt a custom ROM for it.
Apparently the community find nothing valuable in discussing this.
I personally find it very heartbreaking of this news from Sony.
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Apparently the community find nothing valuable in discussing this.
I personally find it very heartbreaking of this news from Sony.
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heartbreaking, yes because Sony is the only one to make a phone like the Z3C but that news isn't a reason to change. The Z3C is or is not a good phone for you when you brought it.
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heartbreaking, yes because Sony is the only one to make a phone like the Z3C but that news isn't a reason to change. The Z3C is or is not a good phone for you when you brought it.
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That's exactly what I'm taking about. Sony is one of the few manufacturers who doesn't do much sh1t like curving screen/ultra saturated color/huge display which results in half day battery life. These crap are good for catching eyes and advertising. But still basically just pure crap for common use. And surprisingly those manufacturers are selling millions of cheap plastic crappie devices with marketing. That's the most heartbreaking part of this whole situation. I almost lost faith in humanity. Damn.
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"WILL be getting rid of your Xperia phone NOW"
Hmm... I don't quite understand the future and present tense meant together in the same sentence.
Surely everyone WILL get rid of their phones at one point or another. Nothing lasts forever and I'm sure there will be many phone in the future that everyone of us will like better than the Z3C.
With the current technology and design available, the Z3C isn't combined of all the best. Weak construction with plastic frame, poor display quality, weak water proofing flaps and worst of all is Sony ecosystem bloatwares which have users constantly connected to Sony store while already being connected to Google store, for the same thing at the same price. The Z3C system size together with bloatwares is almost twice as large as vanilla Android. Another headache with DRM keys for the mediocre performance camera on TA partition when unlock the bootloader.
For the NOW, I would get rid of it ASAP if it wasn't rooted. I'm sure in a few months, there will be some better phones.
i would sooner get rid of my swimsuit supermodel rocket scientist girlfriend than this phone.
this is the first Android phone i've owned where i didn't feel a compelling reason to immediately slap a mod on or otherwise tinker with, especially after my experience with Samsung phones. (well, besides the volume of the loudspeaker, which i expect to fix after i root.) Sony's skin has some really useful, well though out touches, so i've left it stock. i have no issues with the camera, and no cracked glass or other manufacturing faults. and after all the plastic crap that is a typical Android phone, the industrial design is really refreshing and attractive. i like the walkman, movie, and album apps (again, much better than Samsung or HTC equivalents), and the BATTERY LIFE IS INSANE. not having to charge for four, five, six days? AWESOME.
I won't. Everything stock and im perfectly happy.
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Apparently the community find nothing valuable in discussing this.
I personally find it very heartbreaking of this news from Sony.
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Heartbreaking news from Sony???? Nothing conclusive has been said and nothing has been said at all by Sony. This topic is only based on speculations and rumors.
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Mine is going for sure. As soon as S6 comes out (assuming no glaring faults in that)
Its an ugly little phone for starters, the construction choices are poor, glass is not cool. I would much prefer nexus 5/moto x plastic. mUch better.
Camera/camera software is terrible.
Battery is ... at best ok. Using it just as a phone, calls and texts and a bit of whatsapp. Its really good. Using anything else, games, maps etc its awful.
Screen... not bad. Amoled is better though.
Since the new root I have gone from I dont like it to its not a bad little thing. But its not enough.
Im not surprised they are pulling the pin to be honest.
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Mine is going for sure. As soon as S6 comes out (assuming no glaring faults in that)
Its an ugly little phone for starters, the construction choices are poor, glass is not cool. I would much prefer nexus 5/moto x plastic. mUch better.
Camera/camera software is terrible.
Battery is ... at best ok. Using it just as a phone, calls and texts and a bit of whatsapp. Its really good. Using anything else, games, maps etc its awful.
Screen... not bad. Amoled is better though.
Since the new root I have gone from I dont like it to its not a bad little thing. But its not enough.
Im not surprised they are pulling the pin to be honest.
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Sorry to hear this, but are you sure you are not using an actual brick as phone?
If you have issues with games and maps (maps!) I think you should get your unit checked, might be that it's faulty. On battery life you don't have to take my word, just read any review site that you want and they will tell you that it's among the best (if not the best) that you can get now - get your device checked buddy!
Not sure if it's just me but does anyone feels that sony phones were much more fancy in 2012? New design everytime, new cool feaures, special signature stuff for every single phone, even for the lower end ones like the illumination bar of Xperia U.
New sony phones cant surprise me anymore. For example Z2 is a small upgrade from Z1 only dual speakers is worth to be mentioned and Z3 only add better music effects. In fact sony must have enough technology to build a better phone. Pretty much of us know that the Z1 was supposed to be legendary but it comes out just CPU and camera upgrade. Not much different to the XZ for the rest. And if u hear the music quality of Z1 u will know it really sucks especially for early firmwares, surely worse than the xz all the way by bad hardware the Z1 gave. There were even rumour that the Z1 would provide S-Master amplifier back then? Sony seems to cut it to keep the sale of walkman. Maybe the hardware were supposed to be enforced by S-Master but end up the chip was cut, that makes the audio quality sucks? They didnt even managed to fix that problem before they sell the phone. As I thought the music quality would be OK becoz its still a sony, I ended up dissapointed by the noises. Heard that the problem wasnt solved on Z2 either, not sure about Z3.
Heard that Z3 has 2 dac chip that make it capable to play the hi-res music, well no s-master anyway to ensure people still buy walkman? Or they plan to release it with Z4? No idea and I wont be surprised to see nothing special in the Z4.
What's more laughable is their "upgrade" on CPU.
Everyone else run s800 in 2.3Ghz, sony run it 2.2Ghz
Everyone else run s801 in 2.5Ghz, sony run it 2.3Ghz in Z2
(makes me feels strange, they have no confidence with the cpu, lower the freq so it can be more stable?? well ok i aint mad with that)
Z3 realeased, still using s801 but in 2.5Ghz now!!
"WOW what a great upgrade from Z2 that's so awesome!!" <- are we supposed to be like that??
nerf the older phone by software settings to keep the newer one "better", that's what i see sony is doing all the time.
They dont even change the design now. Why keep using the boring omni-balance every single time? I mean it's looking ok but this has been used for every high-end xperias since the z and it makes people bored after so many times. I dont even feel that sony designers and engineers even have the heart to build a smartphone that will WOW us now.
One other reason for running a phone processor under the designed clock speed is improvement in power consumption.
I'd rather have an extra few hours battery life than an extra 5% or 10% top end performance from a processor that is more than capable of handling the majority of tasks.
Sony are not much different to most other phone manufacturers. Many take the safe option of a minor bump in spec rather than a radical redesign every 6 - 12 months. The HTC One M7/8/9 don't look much different to the casual observer. Apple are masters of the minor spec bump, only they could release the same phone with a cheaper casing and still get people to buy it in droves (5 to 5C). Yes I really do know people that 'upgraded' from the 5 to the 5C because they saw the 5C as newer.
The Z3 and Z3C are fantastic phones and the Z4 will be better. The Z4 will come out later this year with an appropriate bump in spec but I don't expect it to come with any new ground breaking features.
When I say ground breaking features I really mean gimmicks. I like the Sony Xperia range of phones because they are gimmick free. Other manufacturer love gimmicks, Samsung and LG phones have been full of them. It's interesting that with the launch of the S6 Samsung have removed a lot of the gimmicks that came with the S5. They realised that people get bored with gimmicks very quickly and rather than have a laser attachment to remove stones from horses hooves they'd prefer to have a stylish phone built from solid materials that has great battery life.
If a stylish phone built from solid materials with great battery life sounds familiar, it is. It's the Xperia Zxx phone you've already got.
As i see Z2 has 3200mAh battery while Z3 has 3100mAh only. The only significant reason that Z3 has great battery life might just be the ultra stamina mode (actually just disable everything except the phone function itself, nerf performance and everything)
The reason i pick sony before was it looks ultra cool all the time and it's different. For example if i use an Xperia S today u will still think it looks amazing and spectacular but if i take a Galaxy S3 u might think "puff, that boring look again". I just hate sony learnt what other manufactures are doing and has loes it best values. Why creating phones that no one will buy like E series and C series? even older high end sony models, ususally and Xperia Z could still beat them all. Instead of wasting money on phones that no one will buy, why dont they just make a completely new look instead? The reason why samsung didnt get so much success in S4 with gimmick stuff is becoz its just always stealing features of old sony phones and iphones and samsung isnt creative itself. Dont care about iPhones at all as it's 80-90% same (except cpu perf) everytime. Honestly i still cant understand what makes people crazy with the iPhone 6. I'm not saying the new Xperia sucks. I just hope sony can collect an enough of goodies, then release it without cutting this and that and really be an amazing phone that i would like to use for long. And seriously, make a new look. Sony was doing it the best back then why stop it now? HTC didnt make a big difference in m8 and m9 but at least they didnt release a high end after every few month, and i heard m9 would have a 20mp camera and i feel more hopeful in HTC now.
Well people are still asking when will Z4 come all the time. I just think: do u want it just becoz it has a new name, or u still dont know the style of sony?"
The great battery life of the Z3 isn't down to UltraStamina mode.
UltraStamina mode is an emergency mode that is designed to preserve the last 10% or 15% of your battery so that you can still make and receive calls/texts.
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The great battery life of the Z3 isn't down to UltraStamina mode.
UltraStamina mode is an emergency mode that is designed to preserve the last 10% or 15% of your battery so that you can still make and receive calls/texts.
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But I remember Z3 turned on the ultra stamina mode to win those battery life competition?
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But I remember Z3 turned on the ultra stamina mode to win those battery life competition?
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Sony may well have done but it's not something you'd use in real life unless you are unable to recharge your phone.
It turns off just about every feature of the phone, no data, no GPS, no Bluetooth or ANT+ radio, no NFC etc. It dims the display and I'm guessing ramps down the clock speed of the processor.
The battery life without UltraStamina mode is still amazing compared to a lot of phones.
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Sony may well have done but it's not something you'd use in real life unless you are unable to recharge your phone.
It turns off just about every feature of the phone, no data, no GPS, no Bluetooth or ANT+ radio, no NFC etc. It dims the display and I'm guessing ramps down the clock speed of the processor.
The battery life without UltraStamina mode is still amazing compared to a lot of phones.
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I actually wonder for a fair match of Z2 and Z3, since 80% same hardware but 100more mAh
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I actually wonder for a fair match of Z2 and Z3, since 80% same hardware but 100more mAh
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The screen may be one of the biggest differences. As that is usually the greatest source of battery use for any smart phone.
The Z2 is the only one of the Z phones I've not used so can't comment on it from experience.
I think they make the same design is becoz they wanna make a signature of Sony's phone...you said that 2012 they make radical design everytime...well ypur right...but that's another name from sony's..the S...what we using now is Z and that's Z signiture design...if they change the design radically, they will have to change the name to....the omnibalance will always be there but flat candibare design will always be used....because Z is successful today, they will make it until 5 or 6 more like Samsung....well thats my opinion...
@KWOKSFUN, if you dislike what Sony is doing now so much, why don't you just switch to another brand that you do like? Also, you seem to say "I have heard" a LOT. Maybe at least do some research so you can form your own opinion on facts, and not on things you "have heard". Doing so you will probably find answers to some of your questions.
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I think they make the same design is becoz they wanna make a signature of Sony's phone...you said that 2012 they make radical design everytime...well ypur right...but that's another name from sony's..the S...what we using now is Z and that's Z signiture design...if they change the design radically, they will have to change the name to....the omnibalance will always be there but flat candibare design will always be used....because Z is successful today, they will make it until 5 or 6 more like Samsung....well thats my opinion...
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Constantly creating new design is what i used to like most from sony. I just hate samsung by its lack of design and bad material. Yeah sony is still much much better in picking good material.
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@KWOKSFUN, if you dislike what Sony is doing now so much, why don't you just switch to another brand that you do like? Also, you seem to say "I have heard" a LOT. Maybe at least do some research so you can form your own opinion on facts, and not on things you "have heard". Doing so you will probably find answers to some of your questions.
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Dont mind me saying the word "heard" all the time, these are info i obtained by other users experience or some rumour that i'm not sure if it's confirmed. Take a note that I'm not rich enough to buy every single devices
Hello fellow smartphone users,
Just something that annoys me, feel like talking about it.
My contract with my mobile provider is over and I can now choose a new contract with a phone
I own a LG G3 since may 2014. I swapped my G2 for the G3 just because of the external SD. Other changes were minimal, but the SD was a must for me.
Now normally you would be happy when your contract is over and you get to choose a new phone, but honestly I'm disappointed. The G3 is a great phone, works very well and has all things one can expect in a todays flagship phones.
Smartphone innovation has stopped. What do the new "flagships" even have to offer that would improve smartphone use? It feels like they desperatly try to make up new things like ow lets add another GB of RAM. Make the phone bigger so there's more room for that extra GB, make it look a little different and sell it as the next big thing.
Right now I feel like waiting till they release new phones like idk the S7 or G5, but honestly there's absolutely no need for a newer phone.
What do you guys think?
Im gonna switch back to iphone ..durability is outstanding and way better than my g3 ..also I have to order a new camera lens due to scratching screen 10$ not a big deal but hey ...also this lag get me to a point of no return ..
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Im gonna switch back to iphone ..durability is outstanding and way better than my g3 ..also I have to order a new camera lens due to scratching screen 10$ not a big deal but hey ...also this lag get me to a point of no return ..
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With the amount of smashed screens I've seen on iPhones. I'd say durability is outstandingly bad.
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I think that's a really interesting point. Just got my HTC One M7 back to work to fiddle around with it a little bit and it performs sooo well even compared to my G3 (that's running AOSP). There is a Full HD screen and an all metal body - pretty much standard by now for many OEMs. 2013 was in general a major step forward in the smartphone territory, the last 2 waves of flagship were not even close to being so game-changing.
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I think that's a really interesting point. Just got my HTC One M7 back to work to fiddle around with it a little bit and it performs sooo well even compared to my G3 (that's running AOSP). There is a Full HD screen and an all metal body - pretty much standard by now for many OEMs. 2013 was in general a major step forward in the smartphone territory, the last 2 waves of flagship were not even close to being so game-changing.
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exactly. It's like they're out of innovation. It seems main points of smartphone innovation used to be better screens, faster processor for a smoother and faster user experience and thinner body. But it seems those points are perfected in some way. Higher resolution screens wouldn't do any good. The used software is fast enough and gets all the processing power it needs. Overall graphics are awesome. GPU power can always be improved ofcourse but c'mon who even wants to play call of duty or fallout 4 on a smartphone. And phones are thin enough. Only innovation on battery power would make a significant difference, but that requires entire new technology which isn't developed yet.
At this point smartphones are handheld computers as well as telecommunications devices. What is new in computers from year to year? Hardware. So what do you get with a new laptop this year vs one from last year? faster processors, more memory, SSDs are so 2 years ago, touchscreens more so, Phones, like computers, for the most part 2 year old computers are still working fine so sure, you can get along just fine with a 1 or 2 year old phone. Hardware is in control of the manufacturer, software provided by Google...so new phones from year to year will have better cameras, more RAM, more storage, faster processors, and with new developments in display technology, will be more durable (providing some manufacturers finally drop the idea of glass encased cases..SMH).
Well its kinda off topic but the new Windows mobile with its continuüm is a innovation ithink and a Iris scanner.
But for Android not so much ithink?
well, from my point of view the things i say:
If you are a geek, if you like to be "on top of tecnology" is obvious you want the newer phones, the most talked in the moment but you have a price for that and if you dont care about so go ahead!
If you are satisfied with your device and dont care about evolution, newer things and think "well, is all the same but only with 2 or 3 things different" then i say: stick with your actual phone!
- All depends of your need's or your brain! For me i dont care about better or worst, i have a G3, i love the device and i will keep it as long as i can, and now i will buy a G Flex2 just because the curvature and for SD810 (i know is a problematic processor but i dont care, i want to try it!) and for the experience to have a curved screen! For me LG are my thing, i cant move to other brand, and if you see my history with phones you know i am a LG and Sony user. I dont go for Sony anymore because they dont do it so well as LG does.
I love LG phones because i get in love with back keys, i cant live without them now, and get back to a phone without them is like to go to stone age!
I like the UI of LG, i cant live without IR Blaster now, is so usefull and because my job is eletronics, i work a lot with TV's, STB's and other things and have a IR Blaster to keep me away for the Remotes and have a phone to do that things is a must for me!
It's my opinion, and i will go for G Flex2 because theyr ridiculous price right now (i can order it for 260€ ~280$) and for the hardware they offer worth a lot the price!
I dont go for apple products because i think they dont worth the price they want for theyr products, i think is a steal to consumers because every year they launch a different one with 1 or 2 things different but the apple users brain says "i have to get the last because i am on top of the tecnologic world" - shut up guy's iphone's is only for status, i cant see other thing from people who buy that thing!
If anyone give me one iphone i sell it as fast i could and for the price i get for it i will buy 2 LG phones, and with better specs...and for sure i will keep the change!
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well, from my point of view the things i say:
If you are a geek, if you like to be "on top of tecnology" is obvious you want the newer phones, the most talked in the moment but you have a price for that and if you dont care about so go ahead!
If you are satisfied with your device and dont care about evolution, newer things and think "well, is all the same but only with 2 or 3 things different" then i say: stick with your actual phone!
- All depends of your need's or your brain! For me i dont care about better or worst, i have a G3, i love the device and i will keep it as long as i can, and now i will buy a G Flex2 just because the curvature and for SD810 (i know is a problematic processor but i dont care, i want to try it!) and for the experience to have a curved screen! For me LG are my thing, i cant move to other brand, and if you see my history with phones you know i am a LG and Sony user. I dont go for Sony anymore because they dont do it so well as LG does.
I love LG phones because i get in love with back keys, i cant live without them now, and get back to a phone without them is like to go to stone age!
I like the UI of LG, i cant live without IR Blaster now, is so usefull and because my job is eletronics, i work a lot with TV's, STB's and other things and have a IR Blaster to keep me away for the Remotes and have a phone to do that things is a must for me!
It's my opinion, and i will go for G Flex2 because theyr ridiculous price right now (i can order it for 260€ ~280$) and for the hardware they offer worth a lot the price!
I dont go for apple products because i think they dont worth the price they want for theyr products, i think is a steal to consumers because every year they launch a different one with 1 or 2 things different but the apple users brain says "i have to get the last because i am on top of the tecnologic world" - shut up guy's iphone's is only for status, i cant see other thing from people who buy that thing!
If anyone give me one iphone i sell it as fast i could and for the price i get for it i will buy 2 LG phones, and with better specs...and for sure i will keep the change!
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Well, I am a tech guy, and I have always wanted the best. Not just with technology, but also with musical instruments(i'm a musician). I need to have the best guitar, I need to have the best amplifier, I need to have the best pc, graphics card, and ofcourse phone. I have always had the latest flagships since smartphones became a thing. But now it doesn't feel like that. I would need to spend some extra money on my new contract and pay about €200 intitial costs, but for the first time it feels like it's not worth it, but the "need for the best" is still there, believe me
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Well, I am a tech guy, and I have always wanted the best. Not just with technology, but also with musical instruments(i'm a musician). I need to have the best guitar, I need to have the best amplifier, I need to have the best pc, graphics card, and ofcourse phone. I have always had the latest flagships since smartphones became a thing. But now it doesn't feel like that. I would need to spend some extra money on my new contract and pay about €200 intitial costs, but for the first time it feels like it's not worth it, but the "need for the best" is still there, believe me
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you have to choise, if you want to trow money to junk or to spend less but have your needs only!
i know your point, and i am the same but i never feel "love" for apple, i dont think theyr products atractive, and never think they are high end...because they arent!
copy2050 said:
you have to choise, if you want to trow money to junk or to spend less but have your needs only!
i know your point, and i am the same but i never feel "love" for apple, i dont think theyr products atractive, and never think they are high end...because they arent!
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yeah i'm not talking about apple. Apple is out of the question. Extremely overpriced, retarded company charging 100 extra for extra storage, purposely excluding a 32gb version. Breaks to easy and is build to last 2 years. There are always battery problems, which can not be removed ofcourse because, you know, **** you, you don't get a removable battery or SD slot, or the possability to replace parts. Need a new screen?, better buy a whole new phone. My parents actually got the advice to buy a new ipad when their new one didn't start anymore. When I got it in my hands, I pushed some buttons and it seemed it was only in recovery mode.
nonono apple is not even an option, don't even get me started on their purposely locked software with retarded compatability for pretty much anything
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yeah i'm not talking about apple. Apple is out of the question. Extremely overpriced, retarded company charging 100 extra for extra storage, purposely excluding a 32gb version. Breaks to easy and is build to last 2 years. There are always battery problems, which can not be removed ofcourse because, you know, **** you, you don't get a removable battery or SD slot, or the possability to replace parts. Need a new screen?, better buy a whole new phone. My parents actually got the advice to buy a new ipad when their new one didn't start anymore. When I got it in my hands, I pushed some buttons and it seemed it was only in recovery mode.
nonono apple is not even an option, don't even get me started on their purposely locked software with retarded compatability for pretty much anything
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ok, now i get cleared about what you want! well...all depends of the offer your network offers, if you want a update better wait 1 or 2 months because V10 is out there and some networks will have it, or wait more and get the G5 wich i can tell is the bomb for the new year, i belive SD820 be inside it!
honestly i think smart phones have hit that 'ceiling' in evolution, same way dumb phones have hit the ceiling right before the iphones changed up everything (didnt really change but more like pivot in a different direction with more overhead evolution).
Manufacturers can stick in better spec processors, ram, storage etc.. but as long as people feel they have everything that they need currently, then we're stuck in a loop until convinces us otherwise.
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Im gonna switch back to iphone ..durability is outstanding and way better than my g3 ..also I have to order a new camera lens due to scratching screen 10$ not a big deal but hey ...also this lag get me to a point of no return ..
send from LG G3
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seriously dude? i owned iphone, not the latest one like iphone 6, 6+ and 6Sh*t + Rose Gold..
it's just Black Coloured iPhone5S and i use it for my second number..
here's my own review in term of PERFORMANCE and DURABILITY
yes, iphone is a real lag-free devices, the software is real outstanding !
it's worth to pay for that ( iOS ) but unfornately the iphones not even great in term of durability
my iphone crack it screen twice in my pockets! LOL.. maybe my jeans is too tight i guess..
so i replaced it twice and already waste around $200 for that S*tty Screen.
and in terms of BATTERY LIFE and CAMERA
my iPhone is worser than my G3 ( avg 14 hours ) or my Xperia ZL ( avg 8 hours ) or maybe Lenovo A889 ( avg Almost a day )!
Please take note that i'm not a heavy user, enough for socialing and clash of clans only.
for camera, both doing great job ( flawless result ) but extra score for G3 with additional support for 4K video, OIS and RAW with XCam.
Don't Forget! G3 also have front facing flash too.. so i wouldn't need the iPhone 6Sh*t for an upgrade..
As conclusion, iphone easy to use in one hand while android is real fun to use.. NO JOKE!
but it's customizable.. even jailbroken iphone can't be customized too much.. still boring
what i can say, it's your choice.. and this is my opinion.. bear in mind that nothing is perfect
everything made has it's own pro's and cons depend on what purpose do you use it for..
Final word from me, i'm still use both of it... im satisfied with both G3 and iPhone 5S
I definitely agree with you on the fact that these recent phones have just been disappointing. I was itching to buy the 6p when I heard about it, but then when I realized they removed external battery and SD card that was my deal breaker. It's really sad that our contracts can expire and we can still prefer our current phones, but I have hope that we'll see some amazing stuff in the next few years. I'm currently in love with my g3, and the only thing that'll take it away from me is an equal device with a fingerprint scanner.
However, right now seems to be the year of software. We're getting an amazing update compared to our lollipop experiences, and google is really refining itself.
OP welcome to the world of corporate marketing.
Coming from the last 4 generations of nexus phones, the G3 was my first non nexus in a while. I kept it for 11 months, but i could never get used to the lag and choppy animations, it just hurt my eyes. I liked the camera though. Recently i sold it and switched back to my nexus 5, and i cannot describe enough how silky smooth it is on Marshmallow, every transition animation, every action, it's just a pleasure to use, despite being a 2 year old phone.
For me, the only candidate for a possible upgrade would be the nexus 6P, but i might as well just skip this generation and wait for a 2016 stock android flagship.
I'm not returning to laggy phones anymore.
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Coming from the last 4 generations of nexus phones, the G3 was my first non nexus in a while. I kept it for 11 months, but i could never get used to the lag and choppy animations, it just hurt my eyes. I liked the camera though. Recently i sold it and switched back to my nexus 5, and i cannot describe enough how silky smooth it is on Marshmallow, every transition animation, every action, it's just a pleasure to use, despite being a 2 year old phone.
For me, the only candidate for a possible upgrade would be the nexus 6P, but i might as well just skip this generation and wait for a 2016 stock android flagship.
I'm not returning to laggy phones anymore.
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I experienced lag aswell when the 5.0 update was released. After the first update this problem was solved for me. Also some advice or just a little trick idk, I also turn off some animations or speed them up in the developer mode menu in order to make things a bit quicker and possibly less laggy. When this is done the phones feels faster.
Right now I'm waiting for the 2016 releases aswell. We'll see what LG or maybe samsung has to offer coming year.
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OP welcome to the world of corporate marketing.
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hahaha I know, I know. I know all about business strategy and marketing, But still, this year it feels a little bit more like trying to be innovative instead of being innovative
Where is my my small flagship... Motox x gen 1 with g3 or better speed
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