Smartphones aren't getting better?

Smartphones aren't getting better? - G3 General

Hello fellow smartphone users,
Just something that annoys me, feel like talking about it.
My contract with my mobile provider is over and I can now choose a new contract with a phone
I own a LG G3 since may 2014. I swapped my G2 for the G3 just because of the external SD. Other changes were minimal, but the SD was a must for me.
Now normally you would be happy when your contract is over and you get to choose a new phone, but honestly I'm disappointed. The G3 is a great phone, works very well and has all things one can expect in a todays flagship phones.
Smartphone innovation has stopped. What do the new "flagships" even have to offer that would improve smartphone use? It feels like they desperatly try to make up new things like ow lets add another GB of RAM. Make the phone bigger so there's more room for that extra GB, make it look a little different and sell it as the next big thing.
Right now I feel like waiting till they release new phones like idk the S7 or G5, but honestly there's absolutely no need for a newer phone.
What do you guys think?

Im gonna switch back to iphone ..durability is outstanding and way better than my g3 ..also I have to order a new camera lens due to scratching screen 10$ not a big deal but hey ...also this lag get me to a point of no return ..
send from LG G3

mathsmart said:
Im gonna switch back to iphone ..durability is outstanding and way better than my g3 ..also I have to order a new camera lens due to scratching screen 10$ not a big deal but hey ...also this lag get me to a point of no return ..
send from LG G3
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With the amount of smashed screens I've seen on iPhones. I'd say durability is outstandingly bad.
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I think that's a really interesting point. Just got my HTC One M7 back to work to fiddle around with it a little bit and it performs sooo well even compared to my G3 (that's running AOSP). There is a Full HD screen and an all metal body - pretty much standard by now for many OEMs. 2013 was in general a major step forward in the smartphone territory, the last 2 waves of flagship were not even close to being so game-changing.

papaluigi said:
I think that's a really interesting point. Just got my HTC One M7 back to work to fiddle around with it a little bit and it performs sooo well even compared to my G3 (that's running AOSP). There is a Full HD screen and an all metal body - pretty much standard by now for many OEMs. 2013 was in general a major step forward in the smartphone territory, the last 2 waves of flagship were not even close to being so game-changing.
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exactly. It's like they're out of innovation. It seems main points of smartphone innovation used to be better screens, faster processor for a smoother and faster user experience and thinner body. But it seems those points are perfected in some way. Higher resolution screens wouldn't do any good. The used software is fast enough and gets all the processing power it needs. Overall graphics are awesome. GPU power can always be improved ofcourse but c'mon who even wants to play call of duty or fallout 4 on a smartphone. And phones are thin enough. Only innovation on battery power would make a significant difference, but that requires entire new technology which isn't developed yet.

At this point smartphones are handheld computers as well as telecommunications devices. What is new in computers from year to year? Hardware. So what do you get with a new laptop this year vs one from last year? faster processors, more memory, SSDs are so 2 years ago, touchscreens more so, Phones, like computers, for the most part 2 year old computers are still working fine so sure, you can get along just fine with a 1 or 2 year old phone. Hardware is in control of the manufacturer, software provided by Google...so new phones from year to year will have better cameras, more RAM, more storage, faster processors, and with new developments in display technology, will be more durable (providing some manufacturers finally drop the idea of glass encased cases..SMH).

Well its kinda off topic but the new Windows mobile with its continuüm is a innovation ithink and a Iris scanner.
But for Android not so much ithink?

well, from my point of view the things i say:
If you are a geek, if you like to be "on top of tecnology" is obvious you want the newer phones, the most talked in the moment but you have a price for that and if you dont care about so go ahead!
If you are satisfied with your device and dont care about evolution, newer things and think "well, is all the same but only with 2 or 3 things different" then i say: stick with your actual phone!
- All depends of your need's or your brain! For me i dont care about better or worst, i have a G3, i love the device and i will keep it as long as i can, and now i will buy a G Flex2 just because the curvature and for SD810 (i know is a problematic processor but i dont care, i want to try it!) and for the experience to have a curved screen! For me LG are my thing, i cant move to other brand, and if you see my history with phones you know i am a LG and Sony user. I dont go for Sony anymore because they dont do it so well as LG does.
I love LG phones because i get in love with back keys, i cant live without them now, and get back to a phone without them is like to go to stone age!
I like the UI of LG, i cant live without IR Blaster now, is so usefull and because my job is eletronics, i work a lot with TV's, STB's and other things and have a IR Blaster to keep me away for the Remotes and have a phone to do that things is a must for me!
It's my opinion, and i will go for G Flex2 because theyr ridiculous price right now (i can order it for 260€ ~280$) and for the hardware they offer worth a lot the price!
I dont go for apple products because i think they dont worth the price they want for theyr products, i think is a steal to consumers because every year they launch a different one with 1 or 2 things different but the apple users brain says "i have to get the last because i am on top of the tecnologic world" - shut up guy's iphone's is only for status, i cant see other thing from people who buy that thing!
If anyone give me one iphone i sell it as fast i could and for the price i get for it i will buy 2 LG phones, and with better specs...and for sure i will keep the change!

copy2050 said:
well, from my point of view the things i say:
If you are a geek, if you like to be "on top of tecnology" is obvious you want the newer phones, the most talked in the moment but you have a price for that and if you dont care about so go ahead!
If you are satisfied with your device and dont care about evolution, newer things and think "well, is all the same but only with 2 or 3 things different" then i say: stick with your actual phone!
- All depends of your need's or your brain! For me i dont care about better or worst, i have a G3, i love the device and i will keep it as long as i can, and now i will buy a G Flex2 just because the curvature and for SD810 (i know is a problematic processor but i dont care, i want to try it!) and for the experience to have a curved screen! For me LG are my thing, i cant move to other brand, and if you see my history with phones you know i am a LG and Sony user. I dont go for Sony anymore because they dont do it so well as LG does.
I love LG phones because i get in love with back keys, i cant live without them now, and get back to a phone without them is like to go to stone age!
I like the UI of LG, i cant live without IR Blaster now, is so usefull and because my job is eletronics, i work a lot with TV's, STB's and other things and have a IR Blaster to keep me away for the Remotes and have a phone to do that things is a must for me!
It's my opinion, and i will go for G Flex2 because theyr ridiculous price right now (i can order it for 260€ ~280$) and for the hardware they offer worth a lot the price!
I dont go for apple products because i think they dont worth the price they want for theyr products, i think is a steal to consumers because every year they launch a different one with 1 or 2 things different but the apple users brain says "i have to get the last because i am on top of the tecnologic world" - shut up guy's iphone's is only for status, i cant see other thing from people who buy that thing!
If anyone give me one iphone i sell it as fast i could and for the price i get for it i will buy 2 LG phones, and with better specs...and for sure i will keep the change!
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Well, I am a tech guy, and I have always wanted the best. Not just with technology, but also with musical instruments(i'm a musician). I need to have the best guitar, I need to have the best amplifier, I need to have the best pc, graphics card, and ofcourse phone. I have always had the latest flagships since smartphones became a thing. But now it doesn't feel like that. I would need to spend some extra money on my new contract and pay about €200 intitial costs, but for the first time it feels like it's not worth it, but the "need for the best" is still there, believe me

sjoerd1234 said:
Well, I am a tech guy, and I have always wanted the best. Not just with technology, but also with musical instruments(i'm a musician). I need to have the best guitar, I need to have the best amplifier, I need to have the best pc, graphics card, and ofcourse phone. I have always had the latest flagships since smartphones became a thing. But now it doesn't feel like that. I would need to spend some extra money on my new contract and pay about €200 intitial costs, but for the first time it feels like it's not worth it, but the "need for the best" is still there, believe me
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you have to choise, if you want to trow money to junk or to spend less but have your needs only!
i know your point, and i am the same but i never feel "love" for apple, i dont think theyr products atractive, and never think they are high end...because they arent!

copy2050 said:
you have to choise, if you want to trow money to junk or to spend less but have your needs only!
i know your point, and i am the same but i never feel "love" for apple, i dont think theyr products atractive, and never think they are high end...because they arent!
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yeah i'm not talking about apple. Apple is out of the question. Extremely overpriced, retarded company charging 100 extra for extra storage, purposely excluding a 32gb version. Breaks to easy and is build to last 2 years. There are always battery problems, which can not be removed ofcourse because, you know, **** you, you don't get a removable battery or SD slot, or the possability to replace parts. Need a new screen?, better buy a whole new phone. My parents actually got the advice to buy a new ipad when their new one didn't start anymore. When I got it in my hands, I pushed some buttons and it seemed it was only in recovery mode.
nonono apple is not even an option, don't even get me started on their purposely locked software with retarded compatability for pretty much anything

sjoerd1234 said:
yeah i'm not talking about apple. Apple is out of the question. Extremely overpriced, retarded company charging 100 extra for extra storage, purposely excluding a 32gb version. Breaks to easy and is build to last 2 years. There are always battery problems, which can not be removed ofcourse because, you know, **** you, you don't get a removable battery or SD slot, or the possability to replace parts. Need a new screen?, better buy a whole new phone. My parents actually got the advice to buy a new ipad when their new one didn't start anymore. When I got it in my hands, I pushed some buttons and it seemed it was only in recovery mode.
nonono apple is not even an option, don't even get me started on their purposely locked software with retarded compatability for pretty much anything
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ok, now i get cleared about what you want! well...all depends of the offer your network offers, if you want a update better wait 1 or 2 months because V10 is out there and some networks will have it, or wait more and get the G5 wich i can tell is the bomb for the new year, i belive SD820 be inside it!

honestly i think smart phones have hit that 'ceiling' in evolution, same way dumb phones have hit the ceiling right before the iphones changed up everything (didnt really change but more like pivot in a different direction with more overhead evolution).
Manufacturers can stick in better spec processors, ram, storage etc.. but as long as people feel they have everything that they need currently, then we're stuck in a loop until convinces us otherwise.

mathsmart said:
Im gonna switch back to iphone ..durability is outstanding and way better than my g3 ..also I have to order a new camera lens due to scratching screen 10$ not a big deal but hey ...also this lag get me to a point of no return ..
send from LG G3
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seriously dude? i owned iphone, not the latest one like iphone 6, 6+ and 6Sh*t + Rose Gold..
it's just Black Coloured iPhone5S and i use it for my second number..
here's my own review in term of PERFORMANCE and DURABILITY
yes, iphone is a real lag-free devices, the software is real outstanding !
it's worth to pay for that ( iOS ) but unfornately the iphones not even great in term of durability
my iphone crack it screen twice in my pockets! LOL.. maybe my jeans is too tight i guess..
so i replaced it twice and already waste around $200 for that S*tty Screen.
and in terms of BATTERY LIFE and CAMERA
my iPhone is worser than my G3 ( avg 14 hours ) or my Xperia ZL ( avg 8 hours ) or maybe Lenovo A889 ( avg Almost a day )!
Please take note that i'm not a heavy user, enough for socialing and clash of clans only.
for camera, both doing great job ( flawless result ) but extra score for G3 with additional support for 4K video, OIS and RAW with XCam.
Don't Forget! G3 also have front facing flash too.. so i wouldn't need the iPhone 6Sh*t for an upgrade..
As conclusion, iphone easy to use in one hand while android is real fun to use.. NO JOKE!
but it's customizable.. even jailbroken iphone can't be customized too much.. still boring
what i can say, it's your choice.. and this is my opinion.. bear in mind that nothing is perfect
everything made has it's own pro's and cons depend on what purpose do you use it for..
Final word from me, i'm still use both of it... im satisfied with both G3 and iPhone 5S

I definitely agree with you on the fact that these recent phones have just been disappointing. I was itching to buy the 6p when I heard about it, but then when I realized they removed external battery and SD card that was my deal breaker. It's really sad that our contracts can expire and we can still prefer our current phones, but I have hope that we'll see some amazing stuff in the next few years. I'm currently in love with my g3, and the only thing that'll take it away from me is an equal device with a fingerprint scanner.
However, right now seems to be the year of software. We're getting an amazing update compared to our lollipop experiences, and google is really refining itself.

OP welcome to the world of corporate marketing.

Coming from the last 4 generations of nexus phones, the G3 was my first non nexus in a while. I kept it for 11 months, but i could never get used to the lag and choppy animations, it just hurt my eyes. I liked the camera though. Recently i sold it and switched back to my nexus 5, and i cannot describe enough how silky smooth it is on Marshmallow, every transition animation, every action, it's just a pleasure to use, despite being a 2 year old phone.
For me, the only candidate for a possible upgrade would be the nexus 6P, but i might as well just skip this generation and wait for a 2016 stock android flagship.
I'm not returning to laggy phones anymore.

rayiskon said:
Coming from the last 4 generations of nexus phones, the G3 was my first non nexus in a while. I kept it for 11 months, but i could never get used to the lag and choppy animations, it just hurt my eyes. I liked the camera though. Recently i sold it and switched back to my nexus 5, and i cannot describe enough how silky smooth it is on Marshmallow, every transition animation, every action, it's just a pleasure to use, despite being a 2 year old phone.
For me, the only candidate for a possible upgrade would be the nexus 6P, but i might as well just skip this generation and wait for a 2016 stock android flagship.
I'm not returning to laggy phones anymore.
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I experienced lag aswell when the 5.0 update was released. After the first update this problem was solved for me. Also some advice or just a little trick idk, I also turn off some animations or speed them up in the developer mode menu in order to make things a bit quicker and possibly less laggy. When this is done the phones feels faster.
Right now I'm waiting for the 2016 releases aswell. We'll see what LG or maybe samsung has to offer coming year.

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OP welcome to the world of corporate marketing.
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hahaha I know, I know. I know all about business strategy and marketing, But still, this year it feels a little bit more like trying to be innovative instead of being innovative

Where is my my small flagship... Motox x gen 1 with g3 or better speed
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Advice: Nexus One over iPhone (not quite a vs. thread)

So I am looking to purchase a Nexus One sometime within the next month or so. I'm an AT&T user and currently am using the FUZE with a custom ROM and running the Eclair XDAndroid build, which obviously doesn't compare to a real android device in any way, shape, or form. I'm completely aware of the features and abilities of both the iPhone and the N1, so this isn't really a feature comparison thread. On paper I know what the N1 is capable of, and everyone I know (literally) has a freaking iPhone so I know what that is capable of in the real world with real use.
Getting to the point, since you folks have been using the N1, may I ask what you like about your N1 over the iPhone? I'm following threads and seeing people with dust complaints, tinted screens, horrifying battery life, the touch sensitive buttons at the bottom not responding... and I'm just struggling on convincing myself to spend over $530 USD on a phone that could cause me problems over spending $300 USD on an iPhone that I know performs very well and already has a ton of memory built in, but lacks everything else that I want in the N1. Are most of these issues from earlier models of the phone? Do they occur more in say the T-Mobile version over the AT&T version (or vice-versa)?
I know this probably seems like a dumb thread, but I've searched and I've heard all the comparisons for features, but I just want to hear your comparisons through actual real world experience with the device (even if you haven't use the iPhone. Oh, and I did see the CNET video of the iPhone vs N1 brawl and that definitely is helping me lean more and more towards the N1.
Any advice would be great. Just please don't turn this into a flame war, both phones are fantastic in their own ways.

all those issues only apply to a select few or to people that have major ocd..i did like my iphone but i didnt love it..i love my nexus one its a really great phone..i love that i can use it to tether too my laptop, use it as BRIGHT flash light, customize it too my liking, and not having to deal with iphone.
The one thing i did miss when i went back to android from my iphone was the games..iphone games are really really nice but that feeling has gone away since now alot of the 3d games on the iphone are being made for android.
the iphone is a great phone but the UI is sooooooooooo boring..i hated that 4x4 icon page on it.i love having widgets
so to sum it all up get a nexus one......and a ipad ahah

That's kind of my worry. I don't have that kind of money to throw around every couple of months, I don't want to invest all that money and in a couple of months just be jealous of all my friends with iPhones. But it is nice to hear you love your N1, the only apple fanboy thing I'm into is their operating system, anything outside of that I'm not really a huge fan of Apple (I stuck with WinMo just because I could customize it without hassle, unlike the iPhone which is a risk to brick every time you jailbreak it and there's a firmware update)

lostinbeta said:
That's kind of my worry. I don't have that kind of money to throw around every couple of months, I don't want to invest all that money and in a couple of months just be jealous of all my friends with iPhones. But it is nice to hear you love your N1, the only apple fanboy thing I'm into is their operating system, anything outside of that I'm not really a huge fan of Apple (I stuck with WinMo just because I could customize it without hassle, unlike the iPhone which is a risk to brick every time you jailbreak it and there's a firmware update)
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ya i love my macbook its the best thing that ever happened to me ahah..and honestly the chance of bricking and iphone while jailbreaking is slim to none but its a pain when apple is constantly sending you updates to unjailbreak it..trust me you will not be jealous of their iphones

bobdude5 said:
all those issues only apply to a select few or to people that have major ocd..i did like my iphone but i didnt love it..i love my nexus one its a really great phone..i love that i can use it to tether too my laptop, use it as BRIGHT flash light, customize it too my liking, and not having to deal with iphone.
The one thing i did miss when i went back to android from my iphone was the games..iphone games are really really nice but that feeling has gone away since now alot of the 3d games on the iphone are being made for android.
the iphone is a great phone but the UI is sooooooooooo boring..i hated that 4x4 icon page on it.i love having widgets
so to sum it all up get a nexus one......and a ipad ahah
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Awesome note with the games though, I don't play games on my phone much (sadly I'm horribly addicted to solitaire...haha) so I never really got into the games aspect, I only have one or two on my iPod Touch, most of the time I use the basic Apps which are also available on Android (twitter, facebook, shazaam, things like that). So that's a good thing to keep in mind.
I think one of my biggest worries is battery life. I don't work a job where I can charge my phone at all throughout the day, and there are times I leave at 8am and don't get home until 7pm or later, and I don't want to have to worry that my phone won't make it. My WinMo phone always ends at around 60% with standard/moderate use so I never have to worry about running home to get a charge if I get hung up after work.

idk man, by far the best phone i have ever owned so far. (may be contradicting to what i just said but i literally do not care)
features list is just BOOM!
battery is amazing for me. no dead pixels. saturated screen. bright flashlight (nexus one torch).. idk so many to list.
if you wanna buy RIGHT NOW. go for the nexus one,
but
if you can wait til July...... wait. becuase you may regret it if you dont have the money to buy the newest badass thing, like maybe the 4Gen iPhone, and new product from HTC, or anyone... really its all so hard to tell but if you can wait, i think that'd be in your best interest.
and the only thing i miss about the iphone thats slowly sucking me back in (happens about twice a year, ive owned all the iphones and sold them too haha) is the slickkkkkk UI. the LARGE community and the apps that actually work clean, and flawlessly. the iphones' transition between homescreens is definitely smooth as butter. nexus one? smooth as sand paper.. the ability to take screen shots on the iphone with ease... idk.. haha

nexus one last me a whole a day with heavy usage (texting, internet, games, music, calling) i disagree with the slick UI..iphone has a HORRIBLE UI in my opinion its too plain and transition is just as smooth..the community for android is also huge and screenshots is easy too..just shake the phone (shootme app on market)

bobdude5 said:
nexus one last me a whole a day with heavy usage (texting, internet, games, music, calling) i disagree with the slick UI..iphone has a HORRIBLE UI in my opinion its too plain and transition is just as smooth..the community for android is also huge and screenshots is easy too..just shake the phone (shootme app on market)
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slick as in quick and easy i guess?
and my nexus easily lasts me 1.5+ days under HEAVY usage.
cool i didnt know about that app! thanks!
although you dont need an app for the iphone haha

lol well i never really got a chance to test past 1.5 days lol i charge it when im go to bed but it usually has 40 percent at the time ( i got to bed like at 1-2 am lol)

bobdude5 said:
lol well i never really got a chance to test past 1.5 days lol i charge it when im go to bed but it usually has 40 percent at the time ( i got to bed like at 1-2 am lol)
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i totally agree.. just one night i forgot to plug it in. died later that day though (didnt necessarily let it "die" i just shut it off at like 2%)

My phone is simply perfect. No issues whatsoever, apparently I am one of the lucky Nexus owners. The only thing though, I do like about the iPhone more - is the UI polish. Apple is simply great at designing things. I'm ok though, as long as I have a Desire ROM. HTC Sense is quite nice.

Youll be happy with the nexus. It is great now and stands to realize much of its latent potential if Google wants it to. If you've had an iPhone you will definitely be disappointed in the touch screen. It's possible though that Android might be able to iron out some of the jittery, jumpiness of the nexus touch screen. But its a decent screen,those who have never used an iPhone think the nexus has the best touch screen there is so its definitely not a deal breaker.
Also, the nexus has higher resolution but I don't think there's and denying that the iPhone just looks crisper, especially the browser. But the nexus gpu definitely loads pages faster. I think I'm just rambling now...

lostinbeta said:
Getting to the point, since you folks have been using the N1, may I ask what you like about your N1 over the iPhone? I'm following threads and seeing people with dust complaints, tinted screens, horrifying battery life, the touch sensitive buttons at the bottom not responding... and I'm just struggling on convincing myself to spend over $530 USD on a phone that could cause me problems over spending $300 USD on an iPhone that I know performs very well and already has a ton of memory built in, but lacks everything else that I want in the N1. Are most of these issues from earlier models of the phone? Do they occur more in say the T-Mobile version over the AT&T version (or vice-versa)?
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Multitasking
The fact that it's unique and NOT an iPhone that everyone and their mother has
Customization
Live wallpapers
High resolution (2.5 times the iPhone)
Flash Lite
DMaverick50 said:
Also, the nexus has higher resolution but I don't think there's and denying that the iPhone just looks crisper, especially the browser.
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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, what?
No denying that? I 10000% heartily deny that. Disagree to the nth power.

lostinbeta said:
So I am looking to purchase a Nexus One sometime within the next month or so. I'm an AT&T user and currently am using the FUZE with a custom ROM and running the Eclair XDAndroid build, which obviously doesn't compare to a real android device in any way, shape, or form. I'm completely aware of the features and abilities of both the iPhone and the N1, so this isn't really a feature comparison thread. On paper I know what the N1 is capable of, and everyone I know (literally) has a freaking iPhone so I know what that is capable of in the real world with real use.
Getting to the point, since you folks have been using the N1, may I ask what you like about your N1 over the iPhone? I'm following threads and seeing people with dust complaints, tinted screens, horrifying battery life, the touch sensitive buttons at the bottom not responding... and I'm just struggling on convincing myself to spend over $530 USD on a phone that could cause me problems over spending $300 USD on an iPhone that I know performs very well and already has a ton of memory built in, but lacks everything else that I want in the N1. Are most of these issues from earlier models of the phone? Do they occur more in say the T-Mobile version over the AT&T version (or vice-versa)?
I know this probably seems like a dumb thread, but I've searched and I've heard all the comparisons for features, but I just want to hear your comparisons through actual real world experience with the device (even if you haven't use the iPhone. Oh, and I did see the CNET video of the iPhone vs N1 brawl and that definitely is helping me lean more and more towards the N1.
Any advice would be great. Just please don't turn this into a flame war, both phones are fantastic in their own ways.
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It all comes down to your personal preference. You can read all types of reviews and you'll see that Nexus One wins over iPhone 3GS. The features of the phone are outstanding. Just ask yourself what you want in your phone. If you want lots of applications, music, go for iPhone but if you want free applications, customizations, widgets, great camera, blazing fast web experience, go for Nexus One. Its just a matter of time before android applications touch the mark set by iPhone. Once you root your Nexus One, its going to be a whole world of possibilities....
For the issues you read about Nexus One, I want to tell you that the tinted screen is only present in the newer devices which would be very soon fixed by an update. The capacitive buttons work perfectly when pressed on the upper half of the button. The dust problem is present in a very small no. or hardwares and if you live in US, then you can call for a replacement if it happens with you.
Android would very soon be taken up by most of the mobile makers as its open sourced and free. I read somewhere that the phone companies who have taken up android OS have to pay very little in comparison to Windows Mobile.
So go for Nexus One, you wont be sorry....

Here's what I wrote in another forum regarding this question:
Having thought about it I realised that the choice to go for an N1 is easy if it fits your needs. Since it has been released all the focus has been on how it compares to the iphone. Understandable as apple set a high bar with many features such as the apps, the graphical physics and ease of use. The n1 more or less matches them and comparing many of these features doesn't get you far. They both are fantastic bits of hardware, great screens, amazing computing power, touchscreens etc. In some ways the N1 performs a bit better in others the iphone but the differences between them are small.
However I think the N1 has gone to a new level with features the iphone simply hasn't got. I don't have to open an app to access the information I want. My calender, agenda, weather, news, daily Bible reading, personal photo's, music player (and playlists) one touch dialling to favourite contacts (and many other thing I don't use) all run on my home pages. And here's where it moves mobile information on; all these widgets update automatically and wirelessly. I don't have to plug my phone into my computer to update my agenda, it happen without hassle right onto my homescreen. Furthermore these services are free - and yes I did pay for mobile me and no its not worth it.
Bottom line is that both the iphone and the N1 are great bits of kit, you won't notice many gains in function between either hardware as far as I can tell but the software has moved on from simply apps. Unfortunately the press just focus on the things that you can compare but the how can you compare widget on a N1 to nothing on the iphone? The N1 is in a different class to the iphone because it does things the iphone can't dream of doing, try to keep up apple!

Thank You everybody. Your advice has been helpful. I actually feel that the Android UI is nicer than the iPhone, to me the iPhone seems plain. Though I will admit that the iPhone is probably a little more user friendly, I don't mind the extra clicks on Android, and it's not like it's difficult to figure out by any stretch of the means. And it's good to know that the issues people are having are only occurring in a small percentage of devices, I was really worried that I would throw down that kind of money and have a jacked phone that only lasted me half a day and had a dusty mis-tinted screen...haha. Hopefully I'll be able to get my N1 ordered by the end of this month.
The next step would be rooting. I don't think I'll root it until after the warranty is up, but I don't know, I said the same thing about ROMing my FUZE and that didn't happen. Though on an unrelated question, how come so many N1 ROM threads don't have screenshots of the ROM. The ShootMe app works great, I use it on my FUZE with Eclair. It just seems like a big risk to install a ROM without knowing what you're supposed to be getting.

actually its less clicks for android lol you know with the widgets and all..with the iphone it takes four clicks to modify your brightness for android it takes one, it takes 3 clicks to turn on wifi and bluetooth on iphone and on android it takes one, it takes 4 clicks for gps on iphone and android 1, it takes 3 clicks to post something on facebook and 1 on android (same for myspace), it takes takes 2 clicks to search on iphone and none on android..you see my point lol

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The next step would be rooting. I don't think I'll root it until after the warranty is up, but I don't know, I said the same thing about ROMing my FUZE and that didn't happen. Though on an unrelated question, how come so many N1 ROM threads don't have screenshots of the ROM. The ShootMe app works great, I use it on my FUZE with Eclair. It just seems like a big risk to install a ROM without knowing what you're supposed to be getting.
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Warranty is 1 year, you will get hot feet by then. There should be desire screenshots around. CyanogenMod's UI is identical to stock, extra features being the selling point.
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slick as in quick and easy i guess?
and my nexus easily lasts me 1.5+ days under HEAVY usage.
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Are you running on the HTC Li-Ion battery or some new U-235 battery?

The Nexus One is great. I don't have complaints so far other than the tiny loudspeaker. Heard that the Desire ROM gives it a louder volume. Anyway, like someone has pointed out, if you can wait until June, I would wait. I think Apple sees the Android OS as a thread so they must be building something big for the iphone 4Gen. The iphone 4Gen will probably be better the Nexus One... BUT I am confident that the Nexus Two or whatever Google wants to release in the future will take over eventually
Not saying the Nexus One will lose to the 4Gen for sure. Remember FroYo and Flash 10 are coming to the Nexus One.

Upgrading my phone: DHD to SGS 2

Hey
So its getting close to the time when I say farewell to my DHD and sell it off to make way for the Samsung Galaxy S 2 . Is this a smart move ?
I thought about the Motorola Atrix 4G but in term of specs and availability it shows no advantage over the SGS 2. Another candidate was the LG Optimus 2x but honestly LG still has to sort out a lot of issues with that device.
Why am I selling my DHD:
- Heavy phone
- ****ty battery
- Poor HTC software support
Any recommendations and feedback will be greatly appreciated.

Id wait until htc finish their device release cycle in the 4th quarter.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

Heavy? My hd2 is just about the same weight and feels amazing in the hand! Atleast better than the crappy Samsung plastic feel. Even though I'd trade my hd2 for a Nexus S anyday.
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Agree!
I agree. I have a DHD and a SGS, IMHO TouchWiz is whoesome when side by side with Sense UI: it is laggy and widgets are ugly. Although the Hummingbird + PVR + Super AMOLED seems far better than Snapdragon + Adreno + SLCD, Samsung could not refine its software as HTC.

Choices...
Go with your gut. SGS2 is still younger and newer so it will in a way be a better phone than the DHD. If you're switching because of the weight, then go with Samsung. If you're also switching because of support, you'd be surprised to discover that Samsung is not better at it than HTC. Some SGS users around the world are still not getting Froyo unless they flash a custom ROM. HTC actually announced that they'll update the DHD and Z with 2.3 and custom development have already started so both stock users and custom rom users will enjoy the same Ginger goodness...
At the end of the day, it really boils down to your preference. I personally would stay with HTC than get a Samsung. IMHO, they're not in the same class, the only true competition to the DHD for me is the Thunderbolt (optimized productivity) and the NS is for the SGS2 (optimized gaming).

mjehan said:
Hey
So its getting close to the time when I say farewell to my DHD and sell it off to make way for the Samsung Galaxy S 2 . Is this a smart move ?
I thought about the Motorola Atrix 4G but in term of specs and availability it shows no advantage over the SGS 2. Another candidate was the LG Optimus 2x but honestly LG still has to sort out a lot of issues with that device.
Why am I selling my DHD:
- Heavy phone
- ****ty battery
- Poor HTC software support
Any recommendations and feedback will be greatly appreciated.
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I've been contemplating the same move, mainly because it is the only 4.3" screen handset with a dual-core slated for release any time soon. I'm intrigued by the SAMOLED PLUS and can't wait to see it in the flesh, especially now the PenTile sub pixel arrangement has been ditched. That said, I'm not keen on TouchShizz (or SenseUI for that matter), and while the lightness appeals to me, the 'plasticky' feel of Samsung handsets has always been a turn off! Just referring to your point about HTC support, Samsung are no better and in many ways they are worse, so be aware before you make the jump.
The most important factor for me however is the development scene. I mean, that's why we're all here at XDA! Don't get me wrong, I know that it may well be an active scene with many custom ROM's based on Samsung Firmware but will there be CM? Will there be tailor made AOSP ROM's built to harness the power of the hardware. That is what is holding me back. The possibility of a signed or even encrypted bootloader is high, and the 2 separate hardware revisions (Tegra, Exynos) will hinder true development so until I've scene the forums being filled with weird and wonderful ROM's and Kernels, I will stick with the DHD. Recently the DHD scene has had a massive boost with the release of the Telus DHD and Inspire 4G bringing in a whole wave of North American interest in the device.
Anyway, the SGS2 is highly appealing with great hardware but for me I think making the jump early would be a mistake, unless you are happy with stock phones. Maybe I'll see you in the SGS2 section sometime in the future.
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I'll be ditching my dhd for the s2. HTC have gone down hill, they can't even align a camera lense! Customer service is rubbish too. Hate this poorly built phone.
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The SGS2 is gonna be a good phone no doubt. I personally like the "bigness" of the DHD coz i have big hands and i like to feel it in my pocket I even have a case that makes it even thicker.
I dont like Samsung smartphones they dont appeal to me somehow. Cant put my finger on it exactly but i think its a mix of the amoled displays which i dont like and the plasticy feel..
I cant say too much about the HTC support but i think its great that they're bringing the Gingerbread rom soon. Build quality is very good with my phone but i heard it can be different.
@Battery: It heavily depends what kind of user you are. But in my case the battery of the DHD is more than enough. With my use it lasts me 2 full days then i charge it overnight.
I think its a "how many days are you getting" thing with the battery. When you're a heavy user with everything enabled and everything syncing/pushing all the time it will last you a day. And i dont think thats gonna change with the SGS2. Maybe you'll have 30% left in the evening instead of 20%. So what you gonna charge anyway.
My DHD never lasted me less then a day even when i play games and watch movies and use my psx emulator. What do i want more? If i go on a trip i take a spare battery with me anyway.
I'd wait and see what HTC will release as a successor of the DHD.
So I dont want to go in the whole custom rom district because its not for everyone. But its just amazing how good the scene is with the DHD! They have a rom for everyone Guess we'll have to wait and see if there will be anything comparable with the SGS2.

mjehan said:
Hey
Why am I selling my DHD:
- Heavy phone
- ****ty battery
- Poor HTC software support
Any recommendations and feedback will be greatly appreciated.
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To answer your criticisms,
- heavy phone, yeah the samsung will feel like a cheap piece of plastic against the DHD
- ****ty battery, it really isn't with a little TLC I easily get 24 hours of my DHD and with mad-murdocks battery fix even more is attainable
- Poor HTC software support, lol your off to samsung good luck with your updates

There are a lot of reason why my love for the DHD died faster than its battery apart from the reasons mentioned:
- GPS doesn't work for me despite the fixes
- SMS notification issue (which is seriously such a let down!)
- HTC Sense killing my android experience
If I was to pick one flaw that ruins this phone it is the battery. I have tried all fixes, tweaks and tricks. It goes only 4,5 hours if used constantly which is unacceptable... and that too is if I disable all the features this phone has to offer.
At least with the Atrix or the SGS 2 I will have 8-10 hour battery under normal Wifi/3G conditions which I need since I am quite often away from home travelling.
PS: im not gonna buy additional accessories like batteries or chargers that I need to carry around with me.

Every SGS I've handled (friends also had), totally four, are crackling all over the housing from back cover to display bezel. That was so complete turn-off and I just couldn't stand it, I had to sell the phone.
DHD on the other hand while being solid aluminium, has it's weak plastics and they are quite turn-off as well, but luckily some blu-tacks have maid my device completely noiseless what comes to cracklings etc.
SGS2 looks quite sexy, no doubt, but having the experience from it's predecessor I haven't even thoght about it yet. I got to see & feel it in hands.
Oh, does SGS2 still have RFS filesystem? That was truely horrifying with random lags!

mjehan said:
There are a lot of reason why my love for the DHD died faster than its battery apart from the reasons mentioned:
- GPS doesn't work for me despite the fixes
- SMS notification issue (which is seriously such a let down!)
- HTC Sense killing my android experience
It goes only 4,5 hours if used constantly which is unacceptable...
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I believe you i'd lose my love for my DHD too under these conditions :/ Strange thing though, i have none of them!
I really like HTC Sense when you disable the annoying parts like Hub or Likes. And as I said my battery lasts usually for 2 days, at least one (24h) when I use it really heavily with emulators, movies and long phone calls.
With some love (right custom rom - i use ARHD, maybe different radio, watching processes to find out cpu abuse, disable unneeded stuff with TitaniumBackup) the DHD is a great great phone.
Imho thats how android works, i mean its even based on Linux. Once you've arranged everything the way you want it, its awesome. But it needs some work to get there.
At this moment no one knows if SGS2 wont have its own problems or when it will be available, so i guess we have to wait and see till some real reviews come out.
If you want something that just works without worrying, with basic functions, but doesnt let you change things and arrange it the way you want, i suggest u go for an iPhone the 5th version should be announced soon i think.

clouds5 said:
If you want something that just works without worrying, with basic functions, but doesnt let you change things and arrange it the way you want, i suggest u go for an iPhone the 5th version should be announced soon i think.
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I'll never go Apple. I'm too smart to fall for their marketing gimmicks

Would you rather have a samsung galaxy 1 or a desire hd?
Well you can get your samsung galaxy 2 and then you know whats going to happen!! HTC will release a beast and blow it out of the water, again.
Samsung make good internal components and then choose to plague them with bad software and lousy build quality, i'm not sure on the battery life on the sgs or sgs2, but the old on was a very good phone albeit with some sorry issues (ie touchwiz)
We had one in our work the other day (sgs2) and it was blazingly fast, apparently there's only 2 of them made and they were prototypes, it was super slim and very quick, quite impressed with it if i'm honest.
However HTC will always come out with something better though, as for the comments you've made, the battery is poor if your going to hammer it with gaming, music, a 4.3inch screen, wifi downloading, video streaming....etc and to name but a few of the things which the dhd does just superbly, I would just like to say that for the size of the battery, i think it lasts remarkably well. Oh and that's not even starting with the overclocking which most dhd users will be doing, i've had mine up to 1996mhz, never went higher than that.
The weight of the phone for me is great, i don't like light, cheap ass phones, if the samsung galaxy S was solid chrome with no touchwiz then it would have sold a hell of lot more.
As for HTC customer support, I have to say i've always had good service from my HTC products so i've never needed to call them, that's not to say that they won't ever go wrong but i've never had to call them.
From what i hear though they're not too bad, I've heard some stories about Samsung though.
My advice would be to see your contract through (if that's what you have) and then see whats on offer, timing is crucial if you don't want to make a bad decision when purchasing / contracting a phone.
I got lucky.

I'd wait for htc pyramid. That phone will be cranking. No point getting dual core now anyway because we don't really have the software to support it. You'd be like all those people who "upgraded" to windows xp 64 bit edition only to find a bunch of drivers were unavailable and 99% of the software was still 32 bit anyway.
Sent from my Desire HD pocket rocket.

Well,here's the rub.
The DHD is probably as fast as it gets for now.As dr.m0x said,the software we have now can't take advantage of dual cores.So they might be only a little faster,but most probably not because of the second core.
Sense,IMO,is the best Android UI(If i can call it that) up to date.Yeah,it makes the phone a little slow,but with such a beast the DHD is,I don't really notice.I had noticed on my Hero,that's for sure! It makes everyday usage easier and more appealing for the end user.Some may prefer AOSP/CM and they are right in some ways.It's fast,it's customizable,it's light and is the first to receive new software.But I'll stay with Sense on my primary phone(Am running CM7 on my Desire though! ).
Build quality is just wow.My pal punched me the other day and his fist landed on my leg,just on my DHD(I know,he is such a bastard! ).The thing didn't even get a scratch on it(well,so to say,it couldn't get scratched by that but other,worse things could've happened).The guy's hand was tied and sore for more than two weeks! There are some problematic phones,yeah,but not so many imo.Plus,it's aluminium,not plastic(I do hate plastic phones).
As for hardware,I generally agree the DHD isn't the most powerful beast out there.But it's got some guts.Really,REALLY strong guts if you ask me.Not just talking about power out of the box,but how many phones do you know that exist out there that can handle OCing up to 2GHz STABLE?The SGS hits some 45 degrees Celsius(dunno about fahreneit)on heavy usage(ie gaming) @1GHz.My DHD,after two hours of playing Angry Birds,Gun Bros and some videos,it never even reached 37(I have SetCPU notify me and underclock when it hits 37 degrees).Now watch my sig.It's running at a solid 1.8GHz.Get me a SGS to do that.If the plastic doesn't melt,I'm buying it!
Then there's developer support.It might not be what everyone wants,but I and most of us around here do care I think.There is word that the SGS2 has a locked bootloader.So it will either be unrootable(by that I mean custom roms etc) or it will be a pain in the @$$ to root it.Until it's confirmed whether it has a locked bootloader or not,I wouldn't consider it.But that's just me!
Not wanting to be a fanboy here,but the DHD is the purchase I regret the least.I did regret getting a Desire over the SGS,but that's not the case with the DHD.
So yeah,I'd agree with the guys that said you should keep the DHD for now and wait for HTC's dual-core offer.I bet it'll kick some ass!

I wouldnt do, i'm sure the SGS 2 is better, but why would it be worth? You got yourself already kinda expensive phone, selling your DHD would make you lose quite some money, ofcourse its true selling it now would bring more money then in 2 years, but I wouldnt do it.
I got mine DHD with 24 months contract, and well I most will keep the phone for those 24, not that it matters much, but I think its a good investment to keep a phone for atleast 2 years and then perhaps get a new phone after 2 years with a new contract of 24 months perhaps.

Wait until HTC releases there next desire HD, maybe desire HD 2? or the rumoured pyramid...
I've made a pact to myself that I will be getting the next nexus phone (nexus 3). It'll be the best for software updates (first phone to get it) and by then vanilla android should be awesome.

dhiral.v said:
Wait until HTC releases there next desire HD, maybe desire HD 2? or the rumoured pyramid...
I've made a pact to myself that I will be getting the next nexus phone (nexus 3). It'll be the best for software updates (first phone to get it) and by then vanilla android should be awesome.
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As soon as I can, I'm gonna go Nexus and never go back. Nexus is the face of android through Google's eyes, android as it should be. It may not have the best hardware for the duration of of being Nexus, but it will always have the best software. People are almost hitting the 4k mark in quadrant with no overclocks on their nexus S's.
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Any Nexus 4 owners have/had Lumia 920? Thoughts?

I currently have both. I sold my GS3 when I picked up the Lumia 920 fully knowing I was going to order a Nexus 4. My plan was to compare the 2 and decide which one I wanted to keep. I am in a bit of a struggle there. Would love input from others that Have/had both.
My opinions:
Lumia 920
Pros:
Screen - Much more vivid and bright, but not overly saturated like that of GS3 etc... Also SEEMS bigger due to on screen buttons of Nexus 4
Battery life - I wasn't even coming close to using up the battery in a day with the Lumia. WIth the Nexus I can make it through a day, but definitely not as good.
Feel - The Lumia feels very solid in your hands. The weight actually adds a good amount of feel to the phone as well, doesn't feel like a toy.
Camera - The camera on the Lumia is amazing (for a cell phone camera). Pictures are great quality and are taken with ease and fast.
OS - Windows Phone 8 is super smooth and does everything I need in a smartphone. It's newer to me, and so less boring.
Cons:
Apps - Very limited app selection. I knew this going in to WP8 and I honestly can't say it is missing anything I NEED, I guess this is more of a boredom filler thing.
No Dev - Again knew this coming in, and again a boredom filler more than anything
Nexus 4
Pros:
Dev - Not quite yet, but will have loads of custom tweaks/roms/etc to play with
App Selection - Not nearly as much as iOS but certainly more than WP8.
Call quality - I find the Nexus 4 to have AMAZING call quality (when it has a good signal)
OS - 4.2 on this phone is SUPER quick. No lag to speak of (for a change), but I do have to say I find Android kind of stale and old to me.
Cons:
Build Quality: While overall quality is great, phone feels solid, super light (debatable if that is a plus or not, I don't necessarily care for the toy feel) however the Phone has something that rattles when you shake it. Their is a constant buzz from the earpiece (can't be heard in call). The back is SUPER slippery, will slide off anything.
Signal - Overall signal is lower than the last 4-5 phones i have owned (based on signal at my house). Also when holding the phone in certain ways I can physically WATCH the signal drop down, then move my hand and watch it go back up.
Screen - Screen quality is fantastic, but the colors could use some life. I am not talking super saturated AMOLED style, but these are closer to HTC Dull IMO. The screen is just as usable in the sun test though, so it is bright!
Plenty more of each I will try to add when they come to mind, just wanted to post a few of my thoughts and see if anyone else had factors to add or their opinion (Please only post your opinion if you have had both phones to compare).
This is JUST my opinion. Please do not take my opinion on either phone as FACT or offensively. If you have a different opinion please share it (respectfully) and I am all ears. I am not posting this as a flame or to say either phone is bad or better than the other, in fact that is the decision I am stuck on. Both are AMAZING phones, so again please do not take either as a phone bash.

I'm pretty sure the rattling is the accelerometer. I don't hear the screeching at all...maybe mine is lucky.
WP8 is nice...I wouldn't judge the switch. The 920 has good build quality, too.
I don't think it's enough to pry me away from the openness of a Nexus.
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Don't you care about the price?
You can buy two N4 for one N920.
The N920 Display is close to the N4. A little better than N4, but not as good as the fantastic OneX LCD2.
I'd also love to buy a Nokia again, but well.. N920.price > (N7.price + N4.price)
Edit: The rattling part with my N4 seems to be the camera-lens-system. The speaker only makes sounds when it is asked for

I've used a 920 and while it's an amazing piece of hardware, WP8 kills it for me.
I have none of the symptoms you described on your N4, no rattle, no buzzing from earpiece, or signal issues.
Overall, the determining factor will be first which ecosystem would you rather use, then which piece of hardware you want.
If WP8 is the answer to the first question then the 920 is the easiest choice, if it's Android and you aren't happy with the N4, look at the One X+, SGS 3, and Note 2.

ElectricAndi said:
Don't you care about the price?
You can buy two N4 for one N920.
The N920 Display is close to the N4. A little better than N4, but not as good as the fantastic OneX LCD2.
I'd also love to buy a Nokia again, but well.. N920.price > (N7.price + N4.price)
Edit: The rattling part with my N4 seems to be the camera-lens-system. The speaker only makes sounds when it is asked for
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I already own both. I paid the same price for both. both sell for roughly the same amount on ebay right now. So price is pretty much a wash.

All those windows phones are inferior even compared to apple

myorks1127 said:
All those windows phones are inferior even compared to apple
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Your basing that on? Bring me some facts and I'll gladly have a debate with you.
I strongly disagree, having actually OWNED one, as well as many iOS and Android devices. Not that I think it's better than Android, but I definitely without question find it superior to iOS (to me).

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Your basing that on? Bring me some facts and I'll gladly have a debate with you.
I strongly disagree, having actually OWNED one, as well as many iOS and Android devices. Not that I think it's better than Android, but I definitely without question find it superior to iOS (to me).
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I hate apple too just saying the success of it, i think windows phone sales compared to android are significantly lower, ita a failing sector in the phone market

You think the nexus 4 is light and toy like? This thing feels like a tank and feels very solid.
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Android feel stale and old to you?
Man you really should stop using Android and buy that Nokia.
The point of Nexus 4's stock interface is for YOU to CUSTOMIZE FOR YOURSELF. If you prefer manufacturer to do that for you, you got the wrong device.

The Lumia is a flop. It's fat, overweight, and runs an OS with no apps.

I love my Nexus 4, a lot. BUT!!!!!! A friend of mine texted me about a week ago and told me he just got the lumia 920, he said its an AMAZING phone and he is blown away by it. ( he's a big android guy, matter of fact he got me to use android). Told me how the camera is amazing, the screen is insane and the fluidity is second to none. Also the predictive keyboard is excellent. THEN!!!! Today one of my coworker who is a big ISHEEP ( but a smart one lol) told me that one of his friend got the lumia and he told me the screen is just too good, he said he was super impressed by it although he said he doesn't like W8. So now I'm gonna get it as secondary phone for sure. Nexus 4 will still be my main phone.
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I have both, and what I can say about the 920 is what I'd say when owning an iPhone too (swapped out a 4s for it): I can handle WP8 & iOS because they're always secondary to Android for me. Exclusively I'd struggle with either, mainly due to lack of apps in WP8, and quite a bit overall in iOS. (The app quality in WP8 isn't poor, it's just the lack of a few are killing me, ie TuneIn - that one damn Swiss station...)
As a second device for me, the Lumia has battery for days - 26h off charger with moderate use the other day and it was at 60% - is built like some concoction designed to protect a tank, and the camera is advanced. Plus it's a simple, well-designed, incredibly smooth, handsome OS which focuses on productivity. And truthfully, for times when I don't need two phones, I often want one I'm inclined to use looking at the screen less - that's the 920. More a tool to the toy, in ways, that is Android for me personally. When I got the 920 I was planning on doing the same as the OP, choosing one, and I went with the 920 initially because I didn't want to be fiddling around with the N4, taking time to flash ROMs, research which kernel is best, figure out why this minor tweak has suddenly borked my entire mobile life, etc, when I'm supposed to be achieving productivity on the level of a respectable member of society. Then I got the N4 in my hands. Phenomenal piece. Not a chance that was going back. When I switch from one to the other, the Lumia feels slow in comparison, almost labored; and that's no slight on it, merely a compliment to the N4's screaming speed. So now it's both.
But in terms of real world use - and I live in a big city - the Lumia gets more day-to-day action for me, in part because I don't have a case for the N4 yet, and I'm terrified of flopping it out of my jacket pocket watching the shards spill across the pavement. I don't baby it, and it's just easier to put somewhere and not worry whether or not the 0.5 degrees of incline is going to send the lubricated glass back hurtling to the floor. I don't worry about the 920. I do about the N4. I also get concerned if I'm out somewhere and the battery is going to die, so I baby the use of my phone under these circumstances; will happen with the N4, won't with the 920. For me, the Lumia sort of ticks a "peace of mind" box. I can throw it in my pocket off the charger and walk out the door, not wondering if it'll last through the night or whether or not it might slap up against something on the subway and shatter, etc.
If it was one or the other and I had both in my hands for a few hours before having to give one back, it'd be no contest: the N4, if my initial concerns about the battery are substantial. I think it's a device of remarkably more potential with a wider variety of uses. However, I think the question to ask is not necessarily which phone is better, but which one best fits your life? People use their devices differently.
For the record, I love having both. Couldn't be happier; what the Nexus 4 gives me - the power, speed, apps, customization, etc. - is complemented perfectly by the 920's strengths - battery, camera, durability, simplicity, LTE, etc. As a pairing of phones, and I've owned a lot of different pairings, this is by far my favorite, and one I'll keep a very long time - which is rare. They're almost the perfect complements in my world. Now if someone could take the best of all these traits and make one single device, they could sell it for four figures on contract and watch the lines on release day stretch counties.

richteralan said:
Android feel stale and old to you?
Man you really should stop using Android and buy that Nokia.
The point of Nexus 4's stock interface is for YOU to CUSTOMIZE FOR YOURSELF. If you prefer manufacturer to do that for you, you got the wrong device.
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Man you should really learn how to read.
First of all, I own both (as stated)
Second of all, I am sorry I put your panties in a bunch that I find Android getting stale FOR ME, it's my opinion. Get over it.
I never said anything about not wanting to customize the interface, The main reason I even like Android is the ability to load custom roms and tweak things myself. I never said otherwise.
When you have something valid to add come back.

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I love my Nexus 4, a lot. BUT!!!!!! A friend of mine texted me about a week ago and told me he just got the lumia 920, he said its an AMAZING phone and he is blown away by it. ( he's a big android guy, matter of fact he got me to use android). Told me how the camera is amazing, the screen is insane and the fluidity is second to none. Also the predictive keyboard is excellent. THEN!!!! Today one of my coworker who is a big ISHEEP ( but a smart one lol) told me that one of his friend got the lumia and he told me the screen is just too good, he said he was super impressed by it although he said he doesn't like W8. So now I'm gonna get it as secondary phone for sure. Nexus 4 will still be my main phone.
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Good info. That about says how I feel about the Lumia. Will be curious to see how you feel if/when you do get one.

cg9916 said:
I have both, and what I can say about the 920 is what I'd say when owning an iPhone too (swapped out a 4s for it): I can handle WP8 & iOS because they're always secondary to Android for me. Exclusively I'd struggle with either, mainly due to lack of apps in WP8, and quite a bit overall in iOS. (The app quality in WP8 isn't poor, it's just the lack of a few are killing me, ie TuneIn - that one damn Swiss station...)
As a second device for me, the Lumia has battery for days - 26h off charger with moderate use the other day and it was at 60% - is built like some concoction designed to protect a tank, and the camera is advanced. Plus it's a simple, well-designed, incredibly smooth, handsome OS which focuses on productivity. And truthfully, for times when I don't need two phones, I often want one I'm inclined to use looking at the screen less - that's the 920. More a tool to the toy, in ways, that is Android for me personally. When I got the 920 I was planning on doing the same as the OP, choosing one, and I went with the 920 initially because I didn't want to be fiddling around with the N4, taking time to flash ROMs, research which kernel is best, figure out why this minor tweak has suddenly borked my entire mobile life, etc, when I'm supposed to be achieving productivity on the level of a respectable member of society. Then I got the N4 in my hands. Phenomenal piece. Not a chance that was going back. When I switch from one to the other, the Lumia feels slow in comparison, almost labored; and that's no slight on it, merely a compliment to the N4's screaming speed. So now it's both.
But in terms of real world use - and I live in a big city - the Lumia gets more day-to-day action for me, in part because I don't have a case for the N4 yet, and I'm terrified of flopping it out of my jacket pocket watching the shards spill across the pavement. I don't baby it, and it's just easier to put somewhere and not worry whether or not the 0.5 degrees of incline is going to send the lubricated glass back hurtling to the floor. I don't worry about the 920. I do about the N4. I also get concerned if I'm out somewhere and the battery is going to die, so I baby the use of my phone under these circumstances; will happen with the N4, won't with the 920. For me, the Lumia sort of ticks a "peace of mind" box. I can throw it in my pocket off the charger and walk out the door, not wondering if it'll last through the night or whether or not it might slap up against something on the subway and shatter, etc.
If it was one or the other and I had both in my hands for a few hours before having to give one back, it'd be no contest: the N4, if my initial concerns about the battery are substantial. I think it's a device of remarkably more potential with a wider variety of uses. However, I think the question to ask is not necessarily which phone is better, but which one best fits your life? People use their devices differently.
For the record, I love having both. Couldn't be happier; what the Nexus 4 gives me - the power, speed, apps, customization, etc. - is complemented perfectly by the 920's strengths - battery, camera, durability, simplicity, LTE, etc. As a pairing of phones, and I've owned a lot of different pairings, this is by far my favorite, and one I'll keep a very long time - which is rare. They're almost the perfect complements in my world. Now if someone could take the best of all these traits and make one single device, they could sell it for four figures on contract and watch the lines on release day stretch counties.
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Great info thank you. Your thoughts are very similar to my take. I just don't know that I can justify having 2 devices, so I am trying to make a choice that has turned out to be harder than I thought it would be

crawlgsx said:
Man you should really learn how to read.
First of all, I own both (as stated)
Second of all, I am sorry I put your panties in a bunch that I find Android getting stale FOR ME, it's my opinion. Get over it.
I never said anything about not wanting to customize the interface, The main reason I even like Android is the ability to load custom roms and tweak things myself. I never said otherwise.
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I don't know what you mean by stale. If you like the ability to load custom ROMs, but complain when you have the most moddable Nexus line in your hand, you have some serious problems buddy. If you have some deeply locked down devices then your complain might be valid.
Apparently you never used a Windows Phone before so you feel fresh. I will see how you comment on your Windows Phone after the "honey moon" period is over.
Also, when you post your opinion publicly but don't expect others to comment on it (valid or not), good for you!
May I introduce you to Neowin.net, where all M$ fanboys hangout, so you can have more help with your Nokia.
BTW, I hangout there, too.

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I don't know what you mean by stale. If you like the ability to load custom ROMs, but complain when you have the most moddable Nexus line in your hand, you have some serious problems buddy. If you have some deeply locked down devices then your complain might be valid.
Apparently you never used a Windows Phone before so you feel fresh. I will see how you comment on your Windows Phone after the "honey moon" period is over.
Also, when you post your opinion publicly but don't expect others to comment on it (valid or not), good for you!
May I introduce you to Neowin.net, where all M$ fanboys hangout, so you can have more help with your Nokia.
BTW, I hangout there, too.
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I mean I have just gotten kind of bored with Android, as in its the SSDD for me. It's not like I haven't owned a few. It's not meant to be offensive to Android, this is a personal problem lol.
My last windows phone is the first on my sig . Been a long time. I had no interest in it when WP7 came out compared to Android but now that I have had Android for a while I picked it up just to try it out and I was pleasantly surprised at how well it runs and functions.
I am not looking for help with either, nor do I expect everyone to see my point of view. All opinions (when stated as such, and not argumentative or stated like it is fact) are very much welcome.
I am not a fanboy of any company OR Operating System, mobile or desktop. I try them all, and I pick what I find the best for ME at the time. I will never understand why some people find the need to attach themselves to one option but to each their own. When it comes down to it, neither of these phones will be in my possession for more than a few months until I get bored with them.
I was just curious what others thought, nothing more, nothing less.
And you may be very well correct on the honeymoon period statement. Part of the enticement to the Lumia IS that WP8 is new to me.(hardware aside) but I will grow bored with it in no time, no doubt.
I fully respect anyone who comes in here with the opinion that I am crazy/stupid/etc for even considering the Lumia over the Nexus, that is fine. I would appreciate some opinions/facts on why, and not fiction about how bad WP8 is (especially if you have never owned one, or at least spent some time with one).

n4 £279
920 £496
if the n4 was closer in price to the 920 it would be a much harder decision. but it isn't. so it isn't. for what you get for your £279, n4 wins hands down.

Well i had android for many years.. but ... it never feels like its it, dont know how to say it.
I have a Lumia 920 now and its bloody awesome, so smooth, never lags, and the appstore is getting bigger everyday.
All my apps i used on Android are in the WP store for me.
Dont get me wrong Android is a great OS, but the changes in versions never live quite up to it.

S6 User Reviews and Opinions

If you have an S6, give us your first impressions and thoughts about the device. Tell us about the display, sound, feel, camera, quality or whatever else comes to mind. If you've had any problems, we'd like to know about that too.
Unboxing pics are encouraged
If you have an S6 Edge, please report in this thread instead:
Post your personal S6E reviews

10 days until I get my s6. Cannot wait!!

Mine comes in today, will return with review and god bless T-Mobile for being so freaking awesome and sending out pre orders early as hell!!

My write up. Think I posted it before you made this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/impression-unprofessional-review-t3068089

I don't have time for anything in depth right now, but I'll write up a quick summary.
I've had the device for 3 days now, and so far I can tell you this is hands down the best phone i have ever had the pleasure of using. I've been with HTC for almost 8 years now, starting with the Evo, then Evo 3D, then HTC One M7. I got fed up with their camera which ultimately made me switch to S6.
I got the black 32GB T-mobile model, and the phone is gorgeous. Build quality is exceptional and feels very solid in my hand. Everything is snappy and responsive. The fingerprint scanner works great, the screen is amazing, and battery life seems reasonable. It's hard to say how the batter will hold up in real world scenarios, since i can't leave the thing sitting for more than 5 minutes right now before i want to look at my new toy again. With extremely heavy use, I've been making it until about 7:00 PM before having to plug it back in.
Being an XDA fanboy, i rooted my phone the moment i got it and removed a lot of the bloatware. T-Mobile did not go overboard with bloatware, but being on custom ROMs for years makes any bloatware make my skin crawl. I was able to root it in minutes, load up Titanium, remove all the unwanted stuff, reboot...and am happy to say i am getting zero FC issues or any other issues for that matter.
The ONLY thing i can say i miss with this phone is the front facing stereo speakers from my HTC One. There's no question that those were better speakers than what the S6 has. Don't get me wrong though, the S6 speaker is sufficiently loud, it just lacks the depth of sound that my HTC One had. This is a sacrifice i will make with open arms though, given the near perfection this device has shown me so far.
In short, GET THIS PHONE! You won't regret it.

Rooting and the possible loss of Samsung Pay!
PrOpANe84 said:
I don't have time for anything in depth right now, but I'll write up a quick summary.
I've had the device for 3 days now, and so far I can tell you this is hands down the best phone i have ever had the pleasure of using. I've been with HTC for almost 8 years now, starting with the Evo, then Evo 3D, then HTC One M7. I got fed up with their camera which ultimately made me switch to S6.
I got the black 32GB T-mobile model, and the phone is gorgeous. Build quality is exceptional and feels very solid in my hand. Everything is snappy and responsive. The fingerprint scanner works great, the screen is amazing, and battery life seems reasonable. It's hard to say how the batter will hold up in real world scenarios, since i can't leave the thing sitting for more than 5 minutes right now before i want to look at my new toy again. With extremely heavy use, I've been making it until about 7:00 PM before having to plug it back in.
Being an XDA fanboy, i rooted my phone the moment i got it and removed a lot of the bloatware. T-Mobile did not go overboard with bloatware, but being on custom ROMs for years makes any bloatware make my skin crawl. I was able to root it in minutes, load up Titanium, remove all the unwanted stuff, reboot...and am happy to say i am getting zero FC issues or any other issues for that matter.
The ONLY thing i can say i miss with this phone is the front facing stereo speakers from my HTC One. There's no question that those were better speakers than what the S6 has. Don't get me wrong though, the S6 speaker is sufficiently loud, it just lacks the depth of sound that my HTC One had. This is a sacrifice i will make with open arms though, given the near perfection this device has shown me so far.
In short, GET THIS PHONE! You won't regret it.
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So after you rooted the device, I assume you ticked the Knox.
Is it still possible to use the Samsung Pay feature?
Forgive me for asking, but with the slimmed down TW,
what are the perks of rooting except full backups, titanium backup, custom roms and Xposed yet doesn't work on Samsung lollipop?
If you would answer, that would be much appreciated! I bought the device but sue to the easter holidays in Denmark, I will get it late next week! I would gladly leave my impressions , but for now, if you could help me with the possible Samsung Pay root issue, that would be great!

I'll keep the S5
In my opinion, Samsung has taken several steps backwards. No water resistance, no memory card and no replaceable battery. All three of these omissions are important to me. I'll just keep my S5 until Samsung sees fit to add these features back in a future version.
Apparently they think Apple has good ideas.

3545alg said:
In my opinion, Samsung has taken several steps backwards. No water resistance, no memory card and no replaceable battery. All three of these omissions are important to me. I'll just keep my S5 until Samsung sees fit to add these features back in a future version.
Apparently they think Apple has good ideas.
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They won't see fit. This thing will sell like hot cakes.
They found that less than one per cent actually use the battery swapping or expandable memory.

3545alg said:
In my opinion, Samsung has taken several steps backwards. No water resistance, no memory card and no replaceable battery. All three of these omissions are important to me. I'll just keep my S5 until Samsung sees fit to add these features back in a future version.
Apparently they think Apple has good ideas.
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Well, Apple sells tens of millions of device agains a premium price. And it works for them, so SS would be stupid not to try to follow their footsteps.
This phone is what so many people where asking for. A good looking. premium built phone that you can show of to your friends for its looks, not its features.
Then again, all those premium materials go wasted as everybody buys a butt ugly case to protect those premium materials.... :silly:

latino147 said:
Well, Apple sells tens of millions of device agains a premium price. And it works for them, so SS would be stupid not to try to follow their footsteps.
This phone is what so many people where asking for. A good looking. premium built phone that you can show of to your friends for its looks, not its features.
Then again, all those premium materials go wasted as everybody buys a butt ugly case to protect those premium materials.... :silly:
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That's a good point. My Spigen tough armor case hides most everything except the screen. What kind of case will protect the Edge model? I'm kind of a butter fingers and I won't carry an expensive phone in my pocket without a good protective case.

I'm still thinking if I should buy a case or not. From my experience, I've never needed one, seen from how long my iPhone 4 lasted. During the time I had it I went out almost every day, most of those days to drink in a bar or at a club, and despite dropping it quite a few times, those particular drops didn't break the glass. The metal sides got dented but that was about it. It's probably because most of the places I go through have smooth floors / carpets and the only times I slapped on a case was when I went hiking or something "adventurous". My iPhone 4 finally died though when my drunk friend grabbed it from me and ran towards the stairs of the club we were at. He stretched out his hand to prevent me from taking it from me and successfully dropped it 3 floors down. Good thing it was almost 4am and the crowd was thinning out so it didn't land on anybody's head (and based on how the iPhone 4 was the first "cement block" phone, that was a huge relief).
My iPhone 4 lived that long despite all it experienced so I'm sure that the S6 Edge, with it's reviews and drop tests will come out of the same experiences more unscathed compared to my iPhone 4.
That being said, I have still been researching on cases and so far I'll either buy a Speck or Ringke case.
... I can't even begin to share how excited I am to get my S6 Edge though. I never thought a Samsung phone would ever catch my eye (which was surprising since I find their TVs / monitors sexy as hell) but I'm sure glad that changed. The last time I got this excited for a phone was when the iPhone 4 was launched.

PrOpANe84 said:
I don't have time for anything in depth right now, but I'll write up a quick summary.
I've had the device for 3 days now, and so far I can tell you this is hands down the best phone i have ever had the pleasure of using. I've been with HTC for almost 8 years now, starting with the Evo, then Evo 3D, then HTC One M7. I got fed up with their camera which ultimately made me switch to S6.
I got the black 32GB T-mobile model, and the phone is gorgeous. Build quality is exceptional and feels very solid in my hand. Everything is snappy and responsive. The fingerprint scanner works great, the screen is amazing, and battery life seems reasonable. It's hard to say how the batter will hold up in real world scenarios, since i can't leave the thing sitting for more than 5 minutes right now before i want to look at my new toy again. With extremely heavy use, I've been making it until about 7:00 PM before having to plug it back in.
Being an XDA fanboy, i rooted my phone the moment i got it and removed a lot of the bloatware. T-Mobile did not go overboard with bloatware, but being on custom ROMs for years makes any bloatware make my skin crawl. I was able to root it in minutes, load up Titanium, remove all the unwanted stuff, reboot...and am happy to say i am getting zero FC issues or any other issues for that matter.
The ONLY thing i can say i miss with this phone is the front facing stereo speakers from my HTC One. There's no question that those were better speakers than what the S6 has. Don't get me wrong though, the S6 speaker is sufficiently loud, it just lacks the depth of sound that my HTC One had. This is a sacrifice i will make with open arms though, given the near perfection this device has shown me so far.
In short, GET THIS PHONE! You won't regret it.
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Since you have root, could you try installing something like v4a and let us know how it works please? Does it bug out? Im big on audio (which is why I got the M7, for its awesome audio mods) and really hoping to jump back on the Samsung ship with the S6.
After using an S4 before my M7, I'm a little cautious about Samsung though. Unlike HTC or Moto (Personal experience), their devices usually dont make it the long term, both in terms of hardware and software, so Im hoping Sammy fixed all these with the S6. Will definitely miss the Boomsound speakers, but the M9 seriously disappointed me this time

latino147 said:
Well, Apple sells tens of millions of device agains a premium price. And it works for them, so SS would be stupid not to try to follow their footsteps.
This phone is what so many people where asking for. A good looking. premium built phone that you can show of to your friends for its looks, not its features.
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So by this reasoning, sales and profit margins do not equal a good product. You've just explained why I won't be buying an S6, or an iPhone.
I don't really think people are wanting this, they are just ignorant of smartphones. If they only knew what they could have in their hands.. Like the guy driving the Ford GT around town going 5 under the speed limit, never reaching 3,000 RPM.
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Then again, all those premium materials go wasted as everybody buys a butt ugly case to protect those premium materials.... :silly:
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It is very sad to see such nice-looking phones go to waste. I'm glad I don't use cases!

xocomaox said:
So by this reasoning, sales and profit margins do not equal a good product. You've just explained why I won't be buying an S6, or an iPhone.
I don't really think people are wanting this, they are just ignorant of smartphones. If they only knew what they could have in their hands.. Like the guy driving the Ford GT around town going 5 under the speed limit, never reaching 3,000 RPM.
It is very sad to see such nice-looking phones go to waste. I'm glad I don't use cases!
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i'm not saying that profit margins/sales do not equal a good product perse. What I'm saying is that vendors always put sales and profit first, and the product second.
Otherwise LCD would've been DEAD years ago, but no, Plasma dies because the profit margins are lower and people want 'LED tv's because they are the best'.
If you, being a manufacturer notice that your competitor sells 5x more than you having a product that doesn't make sense or isn't the best you can get out there you start thinking how you can get sales up to that level. If you have to create a product with a few concessions then so be it.
In this case YOU care about a removable battery and SD. I've NEVER replaced my battery in 6 years. And I use an SD because I've a 16GB phone. The only reason why I would need a removable battery is after my phone freezes up yet again trying out some custom rom
The same goes for the GT driver, he might just have bought the car for its looks or status.

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i'm not saying that profit margins/sales do not equal a good product perse. What I'm saying is that vendors always put sales and profit first, and the product second.
Otherwise LCD would've been DEAD years ago, but no, Plasma dies because the profit margins are lower and people want 'LED tv's because they are the best'.
If you, being a manufacturer notice that your competitor sells 5x more than you having a product that doesn't make sense or isn't the best you can get out there you start thinking how you can get sales up to that level. If you have to create a product with a few concessions then so be it.
In this case YOU care about a removable battery and SD. I've NEVER replaced my battery in 6 years. And I use an SD because I've a 16GB phone. The only reason why I would need a removable battery is after my phone freezes up yet again trying out some custom rom
The same goes for the GT driver, he might just have bought the car for its looks or status.
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Yes, I am agreeing with you about buying for looks and what manufacturers cater to. But I am posting this in a review thread on a site filled with people who use their phones as they were made to be used. I think they will see what Samsung is obviously doing and be turned off by that. Maybe not, though. Marketing and public opinion is very powerful and even the sharpest sometimes fall into those traps.
What's even better about their tactics is that they offer a larger internal memory at the utmost premium price, like Apple does. This is just a terrific business practice, as you want to make a product that is marketable and easily replaced, as well as forcing people into higher price bracket. I do not blame Samsung for trying to turn a profit, I just am disappointed with their product which is not aimed at the vertical I am in.

3545alg said:
In my opinion, Samsung has taken several steps backwards. No water resistance, no memory card and no replaceable battery. All three of these omissions are important to me. I'll just keep my S5 until Samsung sees fit to add these features back in a future version.
Apparently they think Apple has good ideas.
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Considering they made this drastic change due to a massive drop in sales..I'd say your opinion is wrong =)
And I know we all hate apple..but don't be silly. Of course their ideas work. You don't become the most profitable company in the world because you're making bad choices lol

Apple phones are great, the OS feels like it's from the seventies but the the smoothness is something I wish Samsung could copy more. My iPhone is mostly taking up space in a box though
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Apple phones are great, the OS feels like it's from the seventies but the the smoothness is something I wish Samsung could copy more. My iPhone is mostly taking up space in a box though
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Yeah, I really envy the smoothness, WP is equally smooth

V4A installed without issue. Never needed with this, I'm interested to try it out and see what it can do
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Yeah I'm sure I ticked Knox, but root and the benefits that come with it are way more important to me than Samsung pay. We'll see what happens once they release it...
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If the sales are good for the s6 this year , removable battery and SD card slots will go away for good.

[DISCUSSION] Is Galaxy S8 your next phone?

How many of you guys are planning to switch to S8? Are you gonna wait for Note 8 later this year, or maybe you're planning to switch from Samsung to some other OEM?
I was planning to get S8 in April, but i'm not sure if it's a good choice, and since i'll be using it for next two years, i would like to hear other people' opinions.

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Done with samsung

their is already a section for this https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/discussion-phone-buy-time-t3493916://

I'd love too but not sure how I can manager to find enough $$$

Nope, if I stay with android I'll be pixel only from now on

No

Yes, if I rob a bank

Not going to buy it instantly...waiting for reviews and prices to drop first...and then if it is really worth it will buy it...the s6 is a good phone but battery is absolutely trash so im in a need to upgrade...if the s8 is not worth it i will be looking other phones..

Google phone for the win.

would you like to go from 2k to 2k No! Better wait for 4k display

jackherer72 said:
would you like to go from 2k to 2k No! Better wait for 4k display
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Lol what's the point of a 4k display on a phone...
Unless you're using it for VR, a 4k display is redundant as hell

No. I hate the curved display and the round corners. It looks like the most gimmicky phone ever to me. I'll stick with my S6 for a while, and I'll keep buying flat display phones for as long as I can, I don't want any of the edge display nonsense.

Well I am pretty content with the S6 for now, and I would probably not buy the S8. The news that it will have an 3.5 mm jack after all, is really good. I use mainly Bluetooth for my personal music listening, but occasionally I am playing some music at a party from my phone and it would be a bummer to not be able to.
However the lack of flat screen variant is a deal-breaker for me. I really dislike the edge screen - I understand that many people enjoy it and prefer it, but for me it serves no practical purpose and detracts from the otherwise excellent panel quality. Also it's not news, but the S8 as the S7 before it will have no IR port. Probably there won't be any phones in the future with IR port, but I still have a use for mine and it doesn't make sense to move from a phone that has it to a phone that doesn't. Otherwise, since the S6 is already pretty powerful and with a nice camera and display, the gains in these categories will not be significant, so really, it makes no sense for me to spend over 700 € for an upgrade.

Definitely not, 2017 A-series phones look dope though.

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Well I am pretty content with the S6 for now, and I would probably not buy the S8. The news that it will have an 3.5 mm jack after all, is really good. I use mainly Bluetooth for my personal music listening, but occasionally I am playing some music at a party from my phone and it would be a bummer to not be able to.
However the lack of flat screen variant is a deal-breaker for me. I really dislike the edge screen - I understand that many people enjoy it and prefer it, but for me it serves no practical purpose and detracts from the otherwise excellent panel quality. Also it's not news, but the S8 as the S7 before it will have no IR port. Probably there won't be any phones in the future with IR port, but I still have a use for mine and it doesn't make sense to move from a phone that has it to a phone that doesn't. Otherwise, since the S6 is already pretty powerful and with a nice camera and display, the gains in these categories will not be significant, so really, it makes no sense for me to spend over 700 € for an upgrade.
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I agree with u. I use my IR blaster a lot! I do like the edge displays though, and I will be getting the s8+!!!! It looks damn sexy!!!!!
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no. I'm tired of waiting for updates for six months.

I think I gonna buy this but if my father buys it ima take his s7 edge

Maybe cause im using S6 right now. But we'll see what S8 be like after the event.

It's over. Android is the poison that you should stay away from
Hi all,
I love this question since it has been one I've been asking myself ever since the Note 7 explosion debacle.
And after giving it a lot of thought I want to share my view with everyone and please be open about what I'm about to share with you.
I've always owned flagship android phones because I love android for its customizability and up until the Samsung Galaxy s6 I always owned flagship HTC's because the build quality and design was far superior of that of Samsung and the hardware difference was always neglectable. Then when Samsung came out with the S6 I switched simply because the HTC flagship contestant got thicker (or not thinner in each case and it was pretty thick compared to the Samsung and Apple phones due to the full metal body) and the hardware specs were just a tick worse than the Samsung GS6's + I wanted the best camera on the market and that was the Samsung GS6 at the time, on top of that, the Samsung Galaxy S6 design was beautiful compared to the previous models.
I made the switch and was happy! But...
Now, still using the phone and goddddddddddd I'm so annoyed by the amount of times that I had to hard reset it, install an "optimized" ROM and the amount of lag I'm experiencing using the Android OS... MEANWHILE my girlfriend, Who I've been with for 5 years and has an iPhone 5s for a bit more than 3 years and ONLY ever owned Apple products, doesn't have ANY problems with her Apple products...
She is still using a 2008 Macbook Pro which works smoother than my HP Spectre X360 which is not more than a year old...
Her Macbook battery and iPhone battery last longer than my Windows laptop and Android Galaxy S6 ... So finally it kicked in that it's not the phone but the operating system that ducks everything up... And frankly while I'm ranting on about anything that's not Apple, my HP Spectre X360 (also flagship model Laptop, top specs) is feeling crappier than my girlfriends 2008 Macbook Pro...
So living with an Apple user for 5 years I finally caved to the convenience of Apple products which don't have the frickin' problems I have with Windows or Android and who's products just work so much better than any flagship that will ever come out for Android or Windows simply because these companies are not able, professional or dedicated enough to make their OS as optimized and smooth as Apple has with their OS + Hardware and the problem is that even if they try, which I'm sure they do, there are too many different devices with different hardware that there'll never be something as optimized as an apple product coming from an android/windows using phone/laptop manufacturer.
Now to answer your question, I will not switch to the Samsung Galaxy S8 simply because I know that within a year, I will again experience lagging, a bad phone battery and I'll never be able to get the great synchronization that Apple has with its products... (Partly also cause I live in China and google services are blocked here).
Instead, I will slowly switch EVERY product I have to an Apple product. Starting with my phone when the iPhone 8 comes out.
(I find the "leaked" Samsung galaxy s8 pics not at all as beautiful as many online claim it to be... if anything the Xiaomi Mix looks nicer than any of the leaked SGS8 pics, which is also another reason why I'm switching to apple, since all of their designs are just so beautiful and I can't make any of my windows or android products look as beautiful as an apple device simply because it causes more errors on the windows or android OS when you install 3rd party software to make your phone look more apple-ish designed)
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. Once I have the iPhone 8 I'll wait until I'm either super sick and tired of my HP Spectre x360 or if I have enough money to easily afford the next Macbook pro model once it comes out.
And for my desktop which I built myself... that'll also get replaced eventually... Don't know by what yet, but certainly by something from Apple...
I'm tired of fixing issues on Windows products, and let's all be honest... they are plentiful and appear for no ducking good reason....
Cheers, and if you feel the same way, please let me know! I'd love to see if anyone here finally got to the same realization and feels the same way.

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I did not even pay $ 200 for an iphone ... I already had an Imac for 6 months and it sold ... never again ... very annoying and slow ... I mounted a pc 10x better for half price or little else

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