[Feel time] New Sony phones? I aint even amazed. - Xperia Z1 General

Not sure if it's just me but does anyone feels that sony phones were much more fancy in 2012? New design everytime, new cool feaures, special signature stuff for every single phone, even for the lower end ones like the illumination bar of Xperia U.
New sony phones cant surprise me anymore. For example Z2 is a small upgrade from Z1 only dual speakers is worth to be mentioned and Z3 only add better music effects. In fact sony must have enough technology to build a better phone. Pretty much of us know that the Z1 was supposed to be legendary but it comes out just CPU and camera upgrade. Not much different to the XZ for the rest. And if u hear the music quality of Z1 u will know it really sucks especially for early firmwares, surely worse than the xz all the way by bad hardware the Z1 gave. There were even rumour that the Z1 would provide S-Master amplifier back then? Sony seems to cut it to keep the sale of walkman. Maybe the hardware were supposed to be enforced by S-Master but end up the chip was cut, that makes the audio quality sucks? They didnt even managed to fix that problem before they sell the phone. As I thought the music quality would be OK becoz its still a sony, I ended up dissapointed by the noises. Heard that the problem wasnt solved on Z2 either, not sure about Z3.
Heard that Z3 has 2 dac chip that make it capable to play the hi-res music, well no s-master anyway to ensure people still buy walkman? Or they plan to release it with Z4? No idea and I wont be surprised to see nothing special in the Z4.
What's more laughable is their "upgrade" on CPU.
Everyone else run s800 in 2.3Ghz, sony run it 2.2Ghz
Everyone else run s801 in 2.5Ghz, sony run it 2.3Ghz in Z2
(makes me feels strange, they have no confidence with the cpu, lower the freq so it can be more stable?? well ok i aint mad with that)
Z3 realeased, still using s801 but in 2.5Ghz now!!
"WOW what a great upgrade from Z2 that's so awesome!!" <- are we supposed to be like that??
nerf the older phone by software settings to keep the newer one "better", that's what i see sony is doing all the time.
They dont even change the design now. Why keep using the boring omni-balance every single time? I mean it's looking ok but this has been used for every high-end xperias since the z and it makes people bored after so many times. I dont even feel that sony designers and engineers even have the heart to build a smartphone that will WOW us now.

One other reason for running a phone processor under the designed clock speed is improvement in power consumption.
I'd rather have an extra few hours battery life than an extra 5% or 10% top end performance from a processor that is more than capable of handling the majority of tasks.
Sony are not much different to most other phone manufacturers. Many take the safe option of a minor bump in spec rather than a radical redesign every 6 - 12 months. The HTC One M7/8/9 don't look much different to the casual observer. Apple are masters of the minor spec bump, only they could release the same phone with a cheaper casing and still get people to buy it in droves (5 to 5C). Yes I really do know people that 'upgraded' from the 5 to the 5C because they saw the 5C as newer.
The Z3 and Z3C are fantastic phones and the Z4 will be better. The Z4 will come out later this year with an appropriate bump in spec but I don't expect it to come with any new ground breaking features.
When I say ground breaking features I really mean gimmicks. I like the Sony Xperia range of phones because they are gimmick free. Other manufacturer love gimmicks, Samsung and LG phones have been full of them. It's interesting that with the launch of the S6 Samsung have removed a lot of the gimmicks that came with the S5. They realised that people get bored with gimmicks very quickly and rather than have a laser attachment to remove stones from horses hooves they'd prefer to have a stylish phone built from solid materials that has great battery life.
If a stylish phone built from solid materials with great battery life sounds familiar, it is. It's the Xperia Zxx phone you've already got.

As i see Z2 has 3200mAh battery while Z3 has 3100mAh only. The only significant reason that Z3 has great battery life might just be the ultra stamina mode (actually just disable everything except the phone function itself, nerf performance and everything)
The reason i pick sony before was it looks ultra cool all the time and it's different. For example if i use an Xperia S today u will still think it looks amazing and spectacular but if i take a Galaxy S3 u might think "puff, that boring look again". I just hate sony learnt what other manufactures are doing and has loes it best values. Why creating phones that no one will buy like E series and C series? even older high end sony models, ususally and Xperia Z could still beat them all. Instead of wasting money on phones that no one will buy, why dont they just make a completely new look instead? The reason why samsung didnt get so much success in S4 with gimmick stuff is becoz its just always stealing features of old sony phones and iphones and samsung isnt creative itself. Dont care about iPhones at all as it's 80-90% same (except cpu perf) everytime. Honestly i still cant understand what makes people crazy with the iPhone 6. I'm not saying the new Xperia sucks. I just hope sony can collect an enough of goodies, then release it without cutting this and that and really be an amazing phone that i would like to use for long. And seriously, make a new look. Sony was doing it the best back then why stop it now? HTC didnt make a big difference in m8 and m9 but at least they didnt release a high end after every few month, and i heard m9 would have a 20mp camera and i feel more hopeful in HTC now.
Well people are still asking when will Z4 come all the time. I just think: do u want it just becoz it has a new name, or u still dont know the style of sony?"

The great battery life of the Z3 isn't down to UltraStamina mode.
UltraStamina mode is an emergency mode that is designed to preserve the last 10% or 15% of your battery so that you can still make and receive calls/texts.

MobileBritain said:
The great battery life of the Z3 isn't down to UltraStamina mode.
UltraStamina mode is an emergency mode that is designed to preserve the last 10% or 15% of your battery so that you can still make and receive calls/texts.
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But I remember Z3 turned on the ultra stamina mode to win those battery life competition?

KWOKSFUNG said:
But I remember Z3 turned on the ultra stamina mode to win those battery life competition?
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Sony may well have done but it's not something you'd use in real life unless you are unable to recharge your phone.
It turns off just about every feature of the phone, no data, no GPS, no Bluetooth or ANT+ radio, no NFC etc. It dims the display and I'm guessing ramps down the clock speed of the processor.
The battery life without UltraStamina mode is still amazing compared to a lot of phones.

MobileBritain said:
Sony may well have done but it's not something you'd use in real life unless you are unable to recharge your phone.
It turns off just about every feature of the phone, no data, no GPS, no Bluetooth or ANT+ radio, no NFC etc. It dims the display and I'm guessing ramps down the clock speed of the processor.
The battery life without UltraStamina mode is still amazing compared to a lot of phones.
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I actually wonder for a fair match of Z2 and Z3, since 80% same hardware but 100more mAh

KWOKSFUNG said:
I actually wonder for a fair match of Z2 and Z3, since 80% same hardware but 100more mAh
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The screen may be one of the biggest differences. As that is usually the greatest source of battery use for any smart phone.
The Z2 is the only one of the Z phones I've not used so can't comment on it from experience.

I think they make the same design is becoz they wanna make a signature of Sony's phone...you said that 2012 they make radical design everytime...well ypur right...but that's another name from sony's..the S...what we using now is Z and that's Z signiture design...if they change the design radically, they will have to change the name to....the omnibalance will always be there but flat candibare design will always be used....because Z is successful today, they will make it until 5 or 6 more like Samsung....well thats my opinion...

@KWOKSFUN, if you dislike what Sony is doing now so much, why don't you just switch to another brand that you do like? Also, you seem to say "I have heard" a LOT. Maybe at least do some research so you can form your own opinion on facts, and not on things you "have heard". Doing so you will probably find answers to some of your questions.

martin132014 said:
I think they make the same design is becoz they wanna make a signature of Sony's phone...you said that 2012 they make radical design everytime...well ypur right...but that's another name from sony's..the S...what we using now is Z and that's Z signiture design...if they change the design radically, they will have to change the name to....the omnibalance will always be there but flat candibare design will always be used....because Z is successful today, they will make it until 5 or 6 more like Samsung....well thats my opinion...
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Constantly creating new design is what i used to like most from sony. I just hate samsung by its lack of design and bad material. Yeah sony is still much much better in picking good material.

aquaboy11 said:
@KWOKSFUN, if you dislike what Sony is doing now so much, why don't you just switch to another brand that you do like? Also, you seem to say "I have heard" a LOT. Maybe at least do some research so you can form your own opinion on facts, and not on things you "have heard". Doing so you will probably find answers to some of your questions.
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Dont mind me saying the word "heard" all the time, these are info i obtained by other users experience or some rumour that i'm not sure if it's confirmed. Take a note that I'm not rich enough to buy every single devices

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Why SONY Products are one of the best.

Hello, today I decided to write a post about why SONY products are one of the best on the market, I decided to write this because of Xperia Z1 which I think is the best mobile phone ever created by SONY.
I am SONY fan, I had almost all Sony Ericsson phones, I had all W,C,K series and I must say that as time goes SONY introduces more and more amazing products, do you remember Cyber-Shot series which had awesome camera quality for that time, even better then some android phones provide today. Also I can say the same about WALKMAN series that were just amazing, all phones had awesome sound quality as in earphones as in loudspeaker the sound was crisp and loud, I remember my old W980 which was the only phone with FM Radio transmitter and that was great.
My first Xperia was X10 and I was very happy about it, although it was a bit slow at times but still it was and is a great phone that started the revolution in Xperia series, SONY started putting more powerful CPU's, GPU's and other performance parts, and phones became really very good and beautiful at the same time. SONY started upgrading their phones, just making the previous phones better, after X10 I got Xperia Arc which also was a piece of artwork, it had awesome screen, design, performance and also great camera, of course it had some drawbacks like many owners experienced cracks on the housing and such small defects but all in all it was just an attempt to give us something new, same thing with my next phone Xperia S that was amazingly beautiful, fast and unique. SONY always loved to have something that other brands did not have.
In my opinion other brand like SAMSUNG, APPLE, NOKIA and etc are not bad but SONY has unique understanding of what people want the phone to look like. For example I don't like how SAMSUNG phones look they are just all the same, they become only bigger and wider nothing more, same thing with APPLE they just stretched the phone and painted it. This is what makes SONY the only one for me, after Xperia S that I upgraded to Xperia Z that was something unusual, something that was not similar to other phones, this phone is just SEXY, nothing more and nothing less. It has luxury design, cool features, awesome camera and that new "Water Resistance" which is great feature and I'll say why.
It's not really about water resistance, the thing is that most of the phones suffer from collecting dust which is annoying and harmful to the phone in some way. For example all previous SONY phones I had were having that problem, I had to clean the phone almost everyday so that dust didn't get under the battery cover into the weak spots, the dust was collecting also in the camera hole and it was annoying because camera lens became dirty and you had to clean it first and then make a shot, same for the USB port, speaker and other small holes. So this water resistance adds extra protection against dust and you don't have to clean out dust every time, it just doesn't get into your phone, as for water resistance feature itself it's also very handy, because there are some situations when you need to answer call or just take a picture under the rain.
But SONY didn't stop on that and brought us Z1 that became "etalon". Z1 unites all SONY features that you would like to see in a mobile phone, and that's why I bought it. What else do you need from a smartphone? It's has fastest CPU on the board, you can play any high-end game, you can take stunningly sharp photos, you have huge battery and beautiful screen. aluminium body gives you extra protection and glass gives your phone luxury, exclusive looks. SONY produces phone that will suite anybody, for example you don't like 5 inch screen? Okay SONY made that phone smaller so everybody was satisfied. You can't say the same thing about other brands, they simply don't think about people.
So all I wanted to say is that we must be proud of SONY products and I was so amazed with my Z1 that I decided to share my overall experience and opinions. Looking forward to your opinions as well guys.
So, for how long have you worked for Sony?
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what a troll post, mods please delete
I also like Sony phones. I always had Sony phones and they served me the best. After some time, I got the X10, then XS, now Z1. I can say that I'm holding the best phone right now.
Cheers.
Well I have not worked for SONY, I wish I had, yea you may delete post if you wish and there is no trolling, I just wrote how it actually is
MADNJPN said:
Hello, today I decided to write a post about why SONY products are one of the best on the market, I decided to write this because of Xperia Z1 which I think is the best mobile phone ever created by SONY.
I am SONY fan, I had almost all Sony Ericsson phones, I had all W,C,K series and I must say that as time goes SONY introduces more and more amazing products, do you remember Cyber-Shot series which had awesome camera quality for that time, even better then some android phones provide today. Also I can say the same about WALKMAN series that were just amazing, all phones had awesome sound quality as in earphones as in loudspeaker the sound was crisp and loud, I remember my old W980 which was the only phone with FM Radio transmitter and that was great.
My first Xperia was X10 and I was very happy about it, although it was a bit slow at times but still it was and is a great phone that started the revolution in Xperia series, SONY started putting more powerful CPU's, GPU's and other performance parts, and phones became really very good and beautiful at the same time. SONY started upgrading their phones, just making the previous phones better, after X10 I got Xperia Arc which also was a piece of artwork, it had awesome screen, design, performance and also great camera, of course it had some drawbacks like many owners experienced cracks on the housing and such small defects but all in all it was just an attempt to give us something new, same thing with my next phone Xperia S that was amazingly beautiful, fast and unique. SONY always loved to have something that other brands did not have.
In my opinion other brand like SAMSUNG, APPLE, NOKIA and etc are not bad but SONY has unique understanding of what people want the phone to look like. For example I don't like how SAMSUNG phones look they are just all the same, they become only bigger and wider nothing more, same thing with APPLE they just stretched the phone and painted it. This is what makes SONY the only one for me, after Xperia S that I upgraded to Xperia Z that was something unusual, something that was not similar to other phones, this phone is just SEXY, nothing more and nothing less. It has luxury design, cool features, awesome camera and that new "Water Resistance" which is great feature and I'll say why.
It's not really about water resistance, the thing is that most of the phones suffer from collecting dust which is annoying and harmful to the phone in some way. For example all previous SONY phones I had were having that problem, I had to clean the phone almost everyday so that dust didn't get under the battery cover into the weak spots, the dust was collecting also in the camera hole and it was annoying because camera lens became dirty and you had to clean it first and then make a shot, same for the USB port, speaker and other small holes. So this water resistance adds extra protection against dust and you don't have to clean out dust every time, it just doesn't get into your phone, as for water resistance feature itself it's also very handy, because there are some situations when you need to answer call or just take a picture under the rain.
But SONY didn't stop on that and brought us Z1 that became "etalon". Z1 unites all SONY features that you would like to see in a mobile phone, and that's why I bought it. What else do you need from a smartphone? It's has fastest CPU on the board, you can play any high-end game, you can take stunningly sharp photos, you have huge battery and beautiful screen. aluminium body gives you extra protection and glass gives your phone luxury, exclusive looks. SONY produces phone that will suite anybody, for example you don't like 5 inch screen? Okay SONY made that phone smaller so everybody was satisfied. You can't say the same thing about other brands, they simply don't think about people.
So all I wanted to say is that we must be proud of SONY products and I was so amazed with my Z1 that I decided to share my overall experience and opinions. Looking forward to your opinions as well guys.
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Dude, you've written beautifully. I use Sony (Ericsson) phones, and K-series. (K700i, K750i, K800i, K850i), after (Satio, Xperia Arc, Xperia Z), and now of course Xperia Z1. SONY IS THE BEST!!!! XPERIA Z1 IS THE BEST!!!!!!
Thank you : )
You missed out a tiny detail, up untill 3 years ago Nokia were ahead of aony, all Nokia high end phones had fm transmitters great speakers and cameras, but I agree, thats why I have z1 now and not a lumia
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Yes, I agree but W980 were produced in 2008, you also missed a tiny detail
Back when Iphone did not exit I was happy with my Sony Ericsson P990. A beautiful touchscreen device with pen. Back then It was very stylish.
MADNJPN said:
Hello, today I decided to write a post about why SONY products are one of the best on the market, I decided to write this because of Xperia Z1 which I think is the best mobile phone ever created by SONY.
I am SONY fan, I had almost all Sony Ericsson phones, I had all W,C,K series and I must say that as time goes SONY introduces more and more amazing products, do you remember Cyber-Shot series which had awesome camera quality for that time, even better then some android phones provide today. Also I can say the same about WALKMAN series that were just amazing, all phones had awesome sound quality as in earphones as in loudspeaker the sound was crisp and loud, I remember my old W980 which was the only phone with FM Radio transmitter and that was great.
My first Xperia was X10 and I was very happy about it, although it was a bit slow at times but still it was and is a great phone that started the revolution in Xperia series, SONY started putting more powerful CPU's, GPU's and other performance parts, and phones became really very good and beautiful at the same time. SONY started upgrading their phones, just making the previous phones better, after X10 I got Xperia Arc which also was a piece of artwork, it had awesome screen, design, performance and also great camera, of course it had some drawbacks like many owners experienced cracks on the housing and such small defects but all in all it was just an attempt to give us something new, same thing with my next phone Xperia S that was amazingly beautiful, fast and unique. SONY always loved to have something that other brands did not have.
In my opinion other brand like SAMSUNG, APPLE, NOKIA and etc are not bad but SONY has unique understanding of what people want the phone to look like. For example I don't like how SAMSUNG phones look they are just all the same, they become only bigger and wider nothing more, same thing with APPLE they just stretched the phone and painted it. This is what makes SONY the only one for me, after Xperia S that I upgraded to Xperia Z that was something unusual, something that was not similar to other phones, this phone is just SEXY, nothing more and nothing less. It has luxury design, cool features, awesome camera and that new "Water Resistance" which is great feature and I'll say why.
It's not really about water resistance, the thing is that most of the phones suffer from collecting dust which is annoying and harmful to the phone in some way. For example all previous SONY phones I had were having that problem, I had to clean the phone almost everyday so that dust didn't get under the battery cover into the weak spots, the dust was collecting also in the camera hole and it was annoying because camera lens became dirty and you had to clean it first and then make a shot, same for the USB port, speaker and other small holes. So this water resistance adds extra protection against dust and you don't have to clean out dust every time, it just doesn't get into your phone, as for water resistance feature itself it's also very handy, because there are some situations when you need to answer call or just take a picture under the rain.
But SONY didn't stop on that and brought us Z1 that became "etalon". Z1 unites all SONY features that you would like to see in a mobile phone, and that's why I bought it. What else do you need from a smartphone? It's has fastest CPU on the board, you can play any high-end game, you can take stunningly sharp photos, you have huge battery and beautiful screen. aluminium body gives you extra protection and glass gives your phone luxury, exclusive looks. SONY produces phone that will suite anybody, for example you don't like 5 inch screen? Okay SONY made that phone smaller so everybody was satisfied. You can't say the same thing about other brands, they simply don't think about people.
So all I wanted to say is that we must be proud of SONY products and I was so amazed with my Z1 that I decided to share my overall experience and opinions. Looking forward to your opinions as well guys.
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I too have used a few sony phones too. I had a walkman phone and the sony P1i. I find your post biased. Sony makes good products, my p1i looked FUTURISTIC at its time and my walkman phone was built solid like a brick, but Apple too makes great products and on top of that they have customer service better than even Sony. I can tell you this because my phone before was an iPhone 4 and I had to return it after 2 weeks when i noticed the Camera had a huge blob of green hue. I just walked into apple store, explained to them what was wrong and they gave me a new iPhone no questions asked. On the other hand, my first Z1 had the yellow hue and i bought it back to the store and the customer service of both the salesman and manager seemed like they didn't wan't replace my device. It was a good thing their display model didn't have the yellow hue and after some arguing they were willing to replace my yellow hue Z1. Don't get me wrong, I love my Z1. I do believe Sony makes great products but you don't really need to bash on other companies. Apple too makes great products and they really do care about their customers too. A company shouldn't just be selling a product, they should be selling their support and service for the products they sell.
I know the Sony make good stuff but with few last devices which I paid a lot of money I am disappointed. Now i don't know what to think.
eclyptos said:
I know the Sony make good stuff but with few last devices which I paid a lot of money I am disappointed. Now i don't know what to think.
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I agree , i used to use only sony devices before , but after the ARC everything went to hell ,and i mean everything then i switched for HTC even today i can't find anything that good in sony as it was with cyber shoot series.
Comparing to my current htc one i still don't see the point chaning it for Z1 and trust me i was thinking to do it but when you put both phones side by side there's really no need. I'll make short list and probably get called a troll but IDK really , it's just the facts.
1. Camera from XZ / Z1 is quiet dissapointing , to make it even worse HTC One beats it .. here the link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542663
2. Software updates are quiet slow and software is kind of messy , each update breaks stuff when it brings new stuff by what i've seen , camera software is the most unoptimisied software i've seen , i've got pissed off that HTC One takes better photos overall with far worse sensor. And isn't sonys software the most stock alike vs others and yet they manage to be the last with the updates.
3. Speakers are utter **** compared to HTC One.
4. Screen is utter **** compared to HTC One.
5. sound recording is crap vs htc one as well.
5. The phone is huge , i mean compared to note 3 it's almost the same but screen difference is huge or even worse compared to g2 which has larger screen but smaller phone wtf.. The bazels are too large as well.
6. Software on HTC One for me deffinetely wins it with sense 5.5 , it's just much more advanced and useful. ( don't get me wrong i love sony's software but it isn't match for sense 5.5 )
7. Freaking battery , when i heard about z1 and saw official specs i was super happy about 3000 mAh battery but when i tested phone with my cousins vs HTC One htc one at the end had 25% left while z1 was dead with the same exac usage !
8. HEAT , this part annoys me the most , without gaming on wifi heavy usage we've reached 47c WHAT THE **** , HTC One was at 37.....
9. Gaming , there's really no much difference z1/htc one in this regard except z1 starts / loads games faster but it can't match gaming time with htc one , z1 ended up with 2:20 while htc one was pushing 3:30 with 15% left ...
10. Software development is just SAD on sony devices vs HTC .. i mean HTC One has more on verizon development then z1 / xz / zl combined , imagine how much international HTC One has ...
These little things are pretty much why i skipped XZ / Z1 and i'm hopping for z2 or whatever next phone gonna be to have everything better then htc so i can get back.
@ the OP , please explain to me why z1 which is 6/7 months newer then HTC One lacks all these listed things ?
Yea you guys are correct, I just wrote my opinion aswell so, I agree about support service it totaly ***S
Shan89 said:
I agree , i used to use only sony devices before , but after the ARC everything went to hell ,and i mean everything then i switched for HTC even today i can't find anything that good in sony as it was with cyber shoot series.
Comparing to my current htc one i still don't see the point chaning it for Z1 and trust me i was thinking to do it but when you put both phones side by side there's really no need. I'll make short list and probably get called a troll but IDK really , it's just the facts.
1. Camera from XZ / Z1 is quiet dissapointing , to make it even worse HTC One beats it .. here the link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542663
2. Software updates are quiet slow and software is kind of messy , each update breaks stuff when it brings new stuff by what i've seen , camera software is the most unoptimisied software i've seen , i've got pissed off that HTC One takes better photos overall with far worse sensor. And isn't sonys software the most stock alike vs others and yet they manage to be the last with the updates.
3. Speakers are utter **** compared to HTC One.
4. Screen is utter **** compared to HTC One.
5. sound recording is crap vs htc one as well.
5. The phone is huge , i mean compared to note 3 it's almost the same but screen difference is huge or even worse compared to g2 which has larger screen but smaller phone wtf.. The bazels are too large as well.
6. Software on HTC One for me deffinetely wins it with sense 5.5 , it's just much more advanced and useful. ( don't get me wrong i love sony's software but it isn't match for sense 5.5 )
7. Freaking battery , when i heard about z1 and saw official specs i was super happy about 3000 mAh battery but when i tested phone with my cousins vs HTC One htc one at the end had 25% left while z1 was dead with the same exac usage !
8. HEAT , this part annoys me the most , without gaming on wifi heavy usage we've reached 47c WHAT THE **** , HTC One was at 37.....
9. Gaming , there's really no much difference z1/htc one in this regard except z1 starts / loads games faster but it can't match gaming time with htc one , z1 ended up with 2:20 while htc one was pushing 3:30 with 15% left ...
10. Software development is just SAD on sony devices vs HTC .. i mean HTC One has more on verizon development then z1 / xz / zl combined , imagine how much international HTC One has ...
These little things are pretty much why i skipped XZ / Z1 and i'm hopping for z2 or whatever next phone gonna be to have everything better then htc so i can get back.
@ the OP , please explain to me why z1 which is 6/7 months newer then HTC One lacks all these listed things ?
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So your saying all the reviewers that are saying Xperia Z1 is the 2nd best camera in a smartphone are all lying? got it...
not only Z1 has a better camera, but also Z1 has a better battery, better screen color reproduction (head on), better phone call quality, better chipset snapdragon 800, better Launcher (IMO)..
After the 4.3 updates, no more heating, I know coz I play Asphalt 8 almost 1-2 hours a day, battery has improved almost 30%
HTC one has of course better speakers, it has the best speakers in a smart phone, but I listen to music and videos using earphones so doesn't really matter to me...
Shan89 said:
I agree , i used to use only sony devices before , but after the ARC everything went to hell ,and i mean everything then i switched for HTC even today i can't find anything that good in sony as it was with cyber shoot series.
Comparing to my current htc one i still don't see the point chaning it for Z1 and trust me i was thinking to do it but when you put both phones side by side there's really no need. I'll make short list and probably get called a troll but IDK really , it's just the facts.
1. Camera from XZ / Z1 is quiet dissapointing , to make it even worse HTC One beats it .. here the link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542663
2. Software updates are quiet slow and software is kind of messy , each update breaks stuff when it brings new stuff by what i've seen , camera software is the most unoptimisied software i've seen , i've got pissed off that HTC One takes better photos overall with far worse sensor. And isn't sonys software the most stock alike vs others and yet they manage to be the last with the updates.
3. Speakers are utter **** compared to HTC One.
4. Screen is utter **** compared to HTC One.
5. sound recording is crap vs htc one as well.
5. The phone is huge , i mean compared to note 3 it's almost the same but screen difference is huge or even worse compared to g2 which has larger screen but smaller phone wtf.. The bazels are too large as well.
6. Software on HTC One for me deffinetely wins it with sense 5.5 , it's just much more advanced and useful. ( don't get me wrong i love sony's software but it isn't match for sense 5.5 )
7. Freaking battery , when i heard about z1 and saw official specs i was super happy about 3000 mAh battery but when i tested phone with my cousins vs HTC One htc one at the end had 25% left while z1 was dead with the same exac usage !
8. HEAT , this part annoys me the most , without gaming on wifi heavy usage we've reached 47c WHAT THE **** , HTC One was at 37.....
9. Gaming , there's really no much difference z1/htc one in this regard except z1 starts / loads games faster but it can't match gaming time with htc one , z1 ended up with 2:20 while htc one was pushing 3:30 with 15% left ...
10. Software development is just SAD on sony devices vs HTC .. i mean HTC One has more on verizon development then z1 / xz / zl combined , imagine how much international HTC One has ...
These little things are pretty much why i skipped XZ / Z1 and i'm hopping for z2 or whatever next phone gonna be to have everything better then htc so i can get back.
@ the OP , please explain to me why z1 which is 6/7 months newer then HTC One lacks all these listed things ?
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For the past Sony phones especially my Z1 w/ touch screen issue, I think sony still got it but needs to focus better on their QA, I really loved the Z1 and now I'm disappointed with my issue. I was just thinking of switching brands but nothing beats the UI of Sony, HTC is a good choice but with its sales crumbling down and lack of software support maybe it's a no no for me.. I don't intend to start a flame war but this is just an opinion :good:
overall my only choice will be Sony or HTC
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So your saying all the reviewers that are saying Xperia Z1 is the 2nd best camera in a smartphone are all lying? got it...
not only Z1 has a better camera, but also Z1 has a better battery, better screen color reproduction (head on), better phone call quality, better chipset snapdragon 800, better Launcher (IMO)..
After the 4.3 updates, no more heating, I know coz I play Asphalt 8 almost 1-2 hours a day, battery has improved almost 30%
HTC one has of course better speakers, it has the best speakers in a smart phone, but I listen to music and videos using earphones so doesn't really matter to me...
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I don't really care what reviews say , i've seen with my own eyes and you can if you take a look at the link i've posted. Phone quality is deffinetely not better especially the sound of it simply due fact HTC Uses stereo , it's pure logic lol , the chipset yeah it is better the launcher i would say personal preference, it's pointless to discuss the launcher.
As for screen you're quiet delusional lol , 1st htc one has much much better whites around 20-30% better whites, blacks are even much much more better , the viewing angles are literally absolute , you can view it flat on while z1 is completlly useless with angles , as for the other colors it could be true but the colors of * es file explorer / viber / google + * and some other apps are washed out lastly daylight visibilty is miles better on HTC One , idk how can you even say z1 screen is better lol , you clearly never seen HTC one's screen.
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For the past Sony phones especially my Z1 w/ touch screen issue, I think sony still got it but needs to focus better on their QA, I really loved the Z1 and now I'm disappointed with my issue. I was just thinking of switching brands but nothing beats the UI of Sony, HTC is a good choice but with its sales crumbling down and lack of software support maybe it's a no no for me.. I don't intend to start a flame war but this is just an opinion :good:
overall my only choice will be Sony or HTC
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The bad sales are actually with low end/ mid range not the flagship , the flagship is doing much better then last year what was with HoX. I'm not sure what do you mean with software support , after the nexus HTC One was the 1st to have 4.3 ( both sense and GPE ) , after the nexus 5 htc one was the 1st to have 4.4 kitkat both sense and GPE , the software is flawless and there's not even one single issue nor stutter as that matter.
Anyway you're not starting an war mate we all have our opinions , clearly some other guys here are quiet biased and not willing to accept the facts infront of their eyes.
Maybe I didn't understand but all SE had radio, last one I remember that didn't had radio was t68i but after that they all had one
As long as I remember W, K, J, C, G series had it (of course I didn't test them all)
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I too have used a few sony phones too. I had a walkman phone and the sony P1i. I find your post biased. Sony makes good products, my p1i looked FUTURISTIC at its time and my walkman phone was built solid like a brick, but Apple too makes great products and on top of that they have customer service better than even Sony. I can tell you this because my phone before was an iPhone 4 and I had to return it after 2 weeks when i noticed the Camera had a huge blob of green hue. I just walked into apple store, explained to them what was wrong and they gave me a new iPhone no questions asked. On the other hand, my first Z1 had the yellow hue and i bought it back to the store and the customer service of both the salesman and manager seemed like they didn't wan't replace my device. It was a good thing their display model didn't have the yellow hue and after some arguing they were willing to replace my yellow hue Z1. Don't get me wrong, I love my Z1. I do believe Sony makes great products but you don't really need to bash on other companies. Apple too makes great products and they really do care about their customers too. A company shouldn't just be selling a product, they should be selling their support and service for the products they sell.
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Of course Apple gives you a free replacement. Because when you bought the iPhone, you already paid for two of them. That's the reason why they are so expensive.
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Why did you choose Xperia Z2?

Hi all, refer to the above let's discuss why you choose xperia z2 compare with others device.
is it because the design, Spec, price, sony fans or others.
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Simply because it's the best flagship on the market at the moment.
S5 sucked balls. It will be Z2 unless HTC suprises us with a monster in about 1 month.
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Just saw ARTICLE about new IPS screen and Sony finally have great and quality product.
I'm completely satisfied with my Z1 but if I get some interesting offer (like I got for Z1) I'll definitely try it.
Why?
Because, now, Z1 is ultimate device and Sony just upgraded it
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Because the Z2 is the best on the market just now, S5 rom is 8Gb compared to the Z2's 4Gb, plus Z2 has way more excellent specs. I don't care that Samsung maybe releasing a 64bit S5 later this year as I think it is too early for me to get into 64 bit phones just now; as infrastructure etc is not in place yet i.e. app devs have yet to jump on board. That is my opinion anyway...
Waterproofing
Micro SD slot
Front facing speakers
Great camera
And thankfully a big battery
Also simple things like a camera shutter button make this the best phone on the market atm.
BTW, would not touch the S5. The design combined with touchwiz is enough to put me off.
I had a Z, ZL and now Z1. Logical to have a Z2 next.
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Lost faith in Samsung with there handling of s3 updates plus had problems with them regarding other Samsung products. Been a fan of sony for a while now and its coming close to my phone upgrade and the Z2 currently looks like it. I have a few months to go so plenty of time to judge the competition and see what negatives might crop up about the z2.
As long as root is easily gained with minimal drawback Ill most likely be picking up the z2.
Plus the specs of this phone do look pretty good to me
Bigger battery, nicer look, wanted something that wasn't made by Samsung for once.
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Eye friendly...
I am one of the small amount percentage of population who seems to suffer from LED's displays... Sony triluminos display tech, seems to be benign on our eyes. At least sony Vaio Pro 13 and flip are better displays... This issue has years... Hope Z2 is really eye friendly to me too...
Seems spectrum of light of triluminos technology is more balanced. Not a huge blue spike on spectrum...
Here you could see a thread talking on LED's:
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1677617?start=0&tstart=0
My HTC One is killing my eyes...
Cheers...
xz2
because of this past year i cannot trust Sony easily!
i love to buy Xperia Z2 IF all thing about display & ... be right!
if no two quality of display!
sharp display! jdc! OR all story like those!
It s ok if sony s using different company for display supplying BUT not different quality from each company.
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My first phone was the Motorola RAZR V3i and have been a loyal user since then with Moto Droid & Moto RAZR... just loved the premium build quality along with excellent specs. Beauty with brains! Loved the design of Xperia Z & Z1 but was hesitant to switch due to the screen quality as I'm spoiled by AMOLED on my RAZR.
But the Z2 seems like the only phone to be awesome inside & out with no drawbacks to give me second thoughts why not to buy it... (Size was a little concern but I can live with that)
It's either the htc one 2014 or z2. I'm going to buy on tmobile 's jump program if i do decide to get one of these puppies. The phone addict in me wants the latest and greatest, but honestly don't "need" one just yet since I have the N5.
I expect by Fall, everyone will update their SOCs with 64 bit cpus. Also hope that finger print unlock and pw will be supported more widely. Not to mention waterproof and 3GB of ram. These will be must have options.
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It's either the htc one 2014 or z2. I'm going to buy on tmobile 's jump program if i do decide to get one of these puppies. The phone addict in me wants the latest and greatest, but honestly don't "need" one just yet since I have the N5.
I expect by Fall, everyone will update their SOCs with 64 bit cpus. Also hope that finger print unlock and pw will be supported more widely. Not to mention waterproof and 3GB of ram. These will be must have options.
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I also want to see what htc will bring to the table. I doubt it can match sony. Also would need a case since you can't get protection on the alu back.
I don't really see a need for 64 bit systems. What do you see 64 bit bring? Do phones need a new OS to match it? Will support for old systems stop?
We might not need it in the consumer space, but it's one of those things where if you can get it as a little to no-cost option, why not? I can envision a bunch of enterprise use cases like big data analytics and data visualization, not to mention phones/phablets/tablets with > 4gb of ram etc
I'm currently on a htc one x, my contract has 2 weeks on it, so I started looking. The galaxy s5 is a massive fail in my eyes, and I'm just getting bored with HTC. As soon as a saw a leak of sense 6 I knew I'd be bored. I'm going to miss BlinkFeed, but the look of the Z2 and the specs, plus noise cancelling and stereo speakers, as well as the camera (going on a once in a lifetime holiday in August), coupled with an sd card slot and waterproofing (11 pools in the resort), I think it'd be a crime not to go for the Z2. I am worried about the size a little bit, even tho I have big hands.
I have the HTC one and have very little complaints about it and the 2014 version looks promissing but that panel that used to have the capacitive buttons on it is still there but now it's just a logo. Idk why they would keep that. I hate wasted space and big bezels and I think the Z2 once I get Cyanogenmod running on it would be amazing
because the first android phone that i used was sony
sony phones are great in price , support in my country and dev's are supporting them great
and the most important one because sony phones are blazing fast and their software is useful and they don't have useless futures that only make your phone slower and they will eat your ram as hell
thats why i decided to buy sony z2
I love the design,
I love the software,
I love the camera,
I love the build quality,
I love the bigger battery,
I love front facing speakers,
And 3gb of Ram which the s5 don't have (besides I got the note 3, I dont need any more Samsung devices for now)
The Z2 and the note 3 will do me for now
mujj said:
Waterproofing
Micro SD slot
Front facing speakers
Great camera
And thankfully a big battery
Also simple things like a camera shutter button make this the best phone on the market atm.
BTW, would not touch the S5. The design combined with touchwiz is enough to put me off.
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All of the above + 3GB RAM is what sold me. It should also make this phone relevant for a while. Can't wait for the Z2 to arrive!

The perfect smartphone?

I have been a long time android user and have changed a dozen smart phones from HTC to Samsung to Lg, etc(not a fanboy of any) in the past few years.. While impressive, each phone had one major short coming( HTC one's camera, s4s build quality etc)..
I decided to give Sony a try with the z2 a week ago, and have been thoroughly impressed by this phone. Everything on the z2 is top notch(screen, camera, battery life, build, speakers, water proof, SD card support, lag free ui)...
I can't understand why z2 is not a popular device in the market? Everyone I know uses s5 or m8 or iphone.. Is it due to the lack of marketing by Sony?
It kinda is lack of marketing although the z2 was sponsored by the world cup so it should be widely known.
But your right everywhere I go for some reason I'd be the only one with a sony z2. Soo many people will have never heard of this thing it's strange.
However I really don't mind this because this means we have a unique phone. We know its a damn good phone and we keep it that way. it's others that will be missing out on something special.
Hopefully your screen doesn't crack on its own like 100 of others.
I have my Z2 for one month and half now, and i used to change like every month my phone... I can't tell you that i'm fully satisfied with this phone ! It has everything i request from a smartphone.
The only one thing i'm missing is a bigger screen.. Coming from Note 3 (5.7"), Sony Xperia Z Ultra (6.4"), Huawei Mediapad X1 (7")... It's quite hard for me sometimes to enjoy at the screen easily...
So i was really disappointed when Sony shown his Z3 series instead of a new Z Ultra with the same quality from the Z2
Let's hope devs will succeed to port some news stuff from Z3 to our Z2 !
Im also womdering of the whereabouts of Z2 even Sony old flagships. Even on reviews they barely mention or compare sony.
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As for me it is great phone with vastly improved in software and hardware but not yet perfect. It can be considered as smartphone of the year.
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Is it due to the lack of marketing by Sony?
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That, and the sheeple principle in action.
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The Z2 is the closest thing to a "perfect" phone I've come across so far. However, the simple fact of the matter is, it's just too big. That is its one major flaw.
Fortunately, the Z3 Compact looks like the perfect phone (for me, at least). Looking forward to selling my Z2 and picking up the Z3 Compact, as it will combine all the great features of the Z2 with the smaller size I'm looking for.
I do wish the Z3 Compact had 3 gigs of RAM like the Z2/Z3, but I guess I can live without that extra RAM.
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EnIXmA said:
I have been a long time android user and have changed a dozen smart phones from HTC to Samsung to Lg, etc(not a fanboy of any) in the past few years.. While impressive, each phone had one major short coming( HTC one's camera, s4s build quality etc)..
I decided to give Sony a try with the z2 a week ago, and have been thoroughly impressed by this phone. Everything on the z2 is top notch(screen, camera, battery life, build, speakers, water proof, SD card support, lag free ui)...
I can't understand why z2 is not a popular device in the market? Everyone I know uses s5 or m8 or iphone.. Is it due to the lack of marketing by Sony?
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Sony problem is less advertising than for example Samsung. (I respect htc but i don't like it cause they try to be iphone of android world! in my opinion)
+ huge ignorance of users...!
i m talking about what people thought about Xperia Z display quality and after that Z1
there were lots of rumor (for me non of them true!) that people always asking about them here in xda and other forums
for example
(with my old account on xda) i made a thread about Sudden Death of Xperia Z. After few weeks Sony solved that problem with firmware update. But after ~2yrs people check that forum and post something !!!
I mean they read rumors and believe but never try to read more technical.
for Galaxy S4 i remember that show with music, dancing and ..... from Samsung !!! (i did hate that!)
But Sony made a conference introduced Xperia Z and its features + technical info >> The End!
so eyes of normal users won't turn to Sony from Samsung
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The purple z2 is the most beautiful thing ever, this phone has it all, I haven't found any flaws yet.
Its just perfection
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Yeah, it's a good phone, but a sold it month ago and bought OnePlus One. I don't like lack of development for Z2 And being flas-a-holic, I always need new ROMs to try ) And here nothing new in weeks.... Development for OnePlus One is waaaaay better, just like on Nexus devices.
But camera on Z2 is superb. With this camera I was able to get such a good photos that many people commented like "Wow! It was shot on a professional camera or edited heavily in Photoshop?"
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Yeah, it's a good phone, but a sold it month ago and bought OnePlus One. I don't like lack of development for Z2 And being flas-a-holic, I always need new ROMs to try ) And here nothing new in weeks.... Development for OnePlus One is waaaaay better, just like on Nexus devices.
But camera on Z2 is superb. With this camera I was able to get such a good photos that many people commented like "Wow! It was shot on a professional camera or edited heavily in Photoshop?"
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How's the battery life on the Oneplus one?
Jiyeon90 said:
How's the battery life on the Oneplus one?
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Well... I would say 1,5 days. I wake up at 6 AM, and when I go to sleep (around 11 PM), battery is at 40-50%. That's around 2,5 hours screen on time...
It's surely worse than Xperia Z2 in terms of battery, but for me this is 100% enough. And what's even better - Cyanogen team always developing new ways to improve battery life on OPO by optimizing settings.
i used to switch phones every 2-3 mths .. from iphone to nokia, to android, blah blah blah, you get the idea.
But this android phone is the only phone which i don really have anything to complain about. (other than the magnetic port that came out after 2 weeks of use. but its rock solid now after coming out of sony service centre)
yeah, i flash alot when i was on HTC or samsung. but i just did a root on z2 and i am 100% satisfied! i don't see a need to flash custom when everything is working so fine. love the build, the camera and esp the battery life on this baby!
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i used to switch phones every 2-3 mths .. from iphone to nokia, to android, blah blah blah, you get the idea.
But this android phone is the only phone which i don really have anything to complain about. (other than the magnetic port that came out after 2 weeks of use. but its rock solid now after coming out of sony service centre)
yeah, i flash alot when i was on HTC or samsung. but i just did a root on z2 and i am 100% satisfied! i don't see a need to flash custom when everything is working so fine. love the build, the camera and esp the battery life on this baby!
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same here! after rooting the Z2 I don't see the need to flash custom roms when everything's running so smoothly, only mods I've flashed through recovery are the olokos Z2 soundmod and Viper4Android, those two alone made this phone into a musical beast and occasionally I change the system's font using the iFont app
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I have been a long time android user and have changed a dozen smart phones from HTC to Samsung to Lg, etc(not a fanboy of any) in the past few years.. While impressive, each phone had one major short coming( HTC one's camera, s4s build quality etc)..
I decided to give Sony a try with the z2 a week ago, and have been thoroughly impressed by this phone. Everything on the z2 is top notch(screen, camera, battery life, build, speakers, water proof, SD card support, lag free ui)...
I can't understand why z2 is not a popular device in the market? Everyone I know uses s5 or m8 or iphone.. Is it due to the lack of marketing by Sony?
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+1 !
I'm thinking exactly the same as you ! I only wish they could do a Xperia Z Ultra 2 with all the specs from the Z2/Z3... That would be so great ! The only one thing i miss is a bigger screen... 5,7" or 6" would be great !
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+1 !
I'm thinking exactly the same as you ! I only wish they could do a Xperia Z Ultra 2 with all the specs from the Z2/Z3... That would be so great ! The only one thing i miss is a bigger screen... 5,7" or 6" would be great !
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Same here, but qhd is better and a big battery capacity let say 4500 mah and a Wacom stylus if they want to compete note 4 series.
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Thinking of buying Z3

Hi I have the Z2 tablet and love it, have a samsung s3 and... Meh
Im thinking of buying then z3 but it seems by looking through the threads on this forum that people are having issues. A big thing for me is music, so I figure thats one plus for the Z3 ( correct me if im wrong) , I figure the battery life then as an added extra as if im using the phone for music, I use google play music, so im assuming ( which I wouldnt be surprised from sony) that music quality ( through headphones) is the same in the walkman app as it would be through the play music app.
Should I just suck up the s3 for another while and wait for Z4 ( don't want to create a big argument - I noticed that tends to happen here )
Thanks for you help
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A big thing for me is music
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I only had my phone for a couple of days but I can confirm that the audio sounded excellent. I'm not an audiophile - a casual listener with Bose headphones - I listened to classical (Erik Satie), pop (Rihanna), and rock (Duologue) and they all sounded better than on my iPhone 5. I couldn't discern a difference between the Walkman app and the Google app.
I don't know if this is your thread but perhaps the audiophiles can better answer your question:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/737108/sony-xperia-z3-audio-quality
I will not mention anything on the battery life or camera. Plenty of posts for you to see.
Just get it, you won't be disappointed.
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I had a S3 a coupe years ago so I know the Z3 will be a huge upgrade. Camera, speed, build quality, external speakers, etc. I'd be very surprised if you don't like the Z3 over the S3.
As far as people complaining in threads. No phone is perfect. You may or may not get a defective phone. It's just luck. If you happen to be unlucky just exchange it.
I went from my Galaxy S3 to my Z3v (Verizon variant since I've been with them) and I don't regret a thing. I've been waiting for the Xperia to re-land on Verizon and besides missing root (until it happens), it's everything great.
Audio is also great on my end since they use the same tech as the Z3 anyway.
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meteor999 said:
Hi I have the Z2 tablet and love it, have a samsung s3 and... Meh
Im thinking of buying then z3 but it seems by looking through the threads on this forum that people are having issues. A big thing for me is music, so I figure thats one plus for the Z3 ( correct me if im wrong) , I figure the battery life then as an added extra as if im using the phone for music, I use google play music, so im assuming ( which I wouldnt be surprised from sony) that music quality ( through headphones) is the same in the walkman app as it would be through the play music app.
Should I just suck up the s3 for another while and wait for Z4 ( don't want to create a big argument - I noticed that tends to happen here )
Thanks for you help
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I love the Z3, I had to buy a phone as I switched carriers so I could not keep my LG G2 (traded for credit), otherwise I would have waited for the Z4/M9/G4. You cannot go wrong with the Z3 its the best device of the year, but the Z4 will be a much bigger change with S810 64bit cpu, better camera module etc. That is if you can wait till Feb/Mar.
Thanks all, im going to flash lollipod on the s3, and see how far it gets me. I will prob wait until the z4, although the z3 is good, I think 64bit may be a real game changer for graphics. The only worry I would have with the z4 is battery life if it has the supposed octa core processor.
Technically even though S810 is octa core it transitions between the low power and high power cpu's based on usage requirements, it will never use more than 4 cores. (4 High Power / 4 Low Power)
I went from a Galaxy S3 to the Z3 as well and what can I say? Apparently, cell phones have evolved quite a bit in a couple of years?! My Z3 is pure awesomeness, I haven't had a single problem with it so far. No crashes, no hardware failure, no scratchmarks etc. I'ts actually perfect so far, after two months of use.
If you wait for the Z4, then beware that Sony may release the z5 shortly after by another 6 months. So waiting will always produce a better model round the corner, and then you will have to choose between the htc m9, the s6, g4 etc. Unless Sony's changed their cycle strategy. The Z4 will have a newer more powerful processor but bear in mind that the Z4 is rumored to bring a QFHD display and some OEM's weren't able to push that many pixels efficiently like the G3. Also, Sony is good at battery life but they themselves are quoted to say that the higher number of pixels can affect battery life.
In short, I am most impressed with the Z3 and VERY satisfied with its performance. I've not been happier since the old Galaxy S2. The Z3 has a very bright display when it needs to be and very dark display when in the dark, excellent loudspeakers just short of Boomsound quality, SUPERB physical design/profile and premium feel, waterproof, brilliant battery life. The Z3 really is the best phone of 2014. The camera is very good but could be improved. Sony have improved the Z2 camera via FW updates so it's still early days for the Z3. I'm a former OG HTC Desire owner, a Galaxy S1 owner, an S2 as well, then the HTC One X, then the Nexus 4, then the LG G2 and now the Z3. I thoroughly recommend the Z3. Audio via headphones is VERY good, as good as my partner's iP6+ albeit a hair quieter but loud enough.
I think its worth the wait the S810 is an ARMv8 architecture which is major change and bigger jump.
From a developer/programmers perspective, I think it sounds exciting with a new CPU architecture. Although as a user I doubt you will notice much difference in anything but the most demanding apps. The Z3 is already as snappy as anything! Also, as subhani mentioned, a lower pixel count will consume less power. Full HD on that screen is enough to not distinguish individual pixels without a magnifying glass.
Had the phone for a week , and so far .... Its as fast grease lightning !! I have a Sony smart TV and so its a perfect couple ! Can send what ever to the screen ! Been playing games on the TV ,no lag ,who needs a games console ! And the battery I've charged it twice .... Wifi on all the time so far so good !!
I love my z3! Best android phone ive had yet. Previous was lg g2, htc m8, galaxy s5, iphone 6, z3 is best all around imo.
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I love my z3! Best android phone ive had yet. Previous was lg g2, htc m8, galaxy s5, iphone 6, z3 is best all around imo.
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Same here but also had the LG G3 (great except for battery life) ,the Z3 is a great phone.
I just upgrade my Z2 to a Z3.. and the z3 is just awesome.. is so beautiful and slim.. feels great in hands, and yeah, sounds better with headphone or speakers (I have the Sony NC headphone and a Creative Headset both sound great with the z3) and the battery life is the same or even better than the z2 (1,5 to 2,5 days of use).. The only problem I have is no root yet (with Locked Bootloader).. So, yeah.. buy it! is pretty much the perfect phone right now.. (for me at least :good
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From a developer/programmers perspective, I think it sounds exciting with a new CPU architecture. Although as a user I doubt you will notice much difference in anything but the most demanding apps. The Z3 is already as snappy as anything! Also, as subhani mentioned, a lower pixel count will consume less power. Full HD on that screen is enough to not distinguish individual pixels without a magnifying glass.
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Unlike going from a Z/Z1 to a Z3, (which use "similar" SOCs) the Z4s Cortex A57 (ARMv8) will be ~40% faster and the Adreno 430 GPU will be much more powerful, and there are improvements in power efficiency. All that adds up to a lot.
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Unlike going from a Z/Z1 to a Z3, (which use "similar" SOCs) the Z4s Cortex A57 (ARMv8) will be ~40% faster and the Adreno 420 GPU will be much more powerful, and there are improvements in power efficiency. All that adds up to a lot.
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No doubt! My point was just that choosing between really fast (Z3) and super fast (Z4) is probably not something that many people will notice when doing regular day to day tasks. But if they manage to provide all that computing power and keep the power consumption at a similar level, that's impressive! If I hadn't bought a Z3 already, I'd probably wait for the Z4. But I'm a programmer and maybe not a representative user
What's the Adreno 420 like compared to the 330? I'm planning on doing some OpenCL projects, so quite curious what I'm going to miss
Adreno 430 sorry, the 420 is in the Nexus 6. They are more than doubling the ALUs from 128 (A330) to 288 (A430), also based on 20nm vs 28nm. They are finally adding H265 encode and 2x32 Bit LPDDR4 at 1600MHz.

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I'm pretty much committed to buying a Z3 Compact or the Z1 Compact as they seem to be the only smaller Androids out there.
I've noticed the price has dropped a little (£292 on Amazon) which I presume is something to do with the imminent arrival of the Z5 compact - do you think if I wait a little longer the price may fall some more?
And is the Z3C that much better than the Z1C?
Thanks
phoneowner71 said:
Hi
I'm pretty much committed to buying a Z3 Compact or the Z1 Compact as they seem to be the only smaller Androids out there.
I've noticed the price has dropped a little (£292 on Amazon) which I presume is something to do with the imminent arrival of the Z5 compact - do you think if I wait a little longer the price may fall some more?
And is the Z3C that much better than the Z1C?
Thanks
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It seems as if there will also be a z4c.
You might want to wait for that, but if you fancy a good camera Sony phones wouldn't be something for you.
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Dsteppa said:
It seems as if there will also be a z4c.
You might want to wait for that, but if you fancy a good camera Sony phones wouldn't be something for you.
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Generally speaking I'm not quite sure how much the price of the z3c will fall with the introduction of the z4c.
However I'm curious about the overall performance of the phone: Do you think it is worth the buy?
And what is more, I've seen there is quite a struggle with the bootloader and with developers, but with official CM nightlies this should be fine, right?
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Generally speaking I'm not quite sure how much the price of the z3c will fall with the introduction of the z4c.
However I'm curious about the overall performance of the phone: Do you think it is worth the buy?
And what is more, I've seen there is quite a struggle with the bootloader and with developers, but with official CM nightlies this should be fine, right?
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The price won't fall THAT much, but the recent price drop could be because of that.
The phone is still worth to buy for sure as for bootloader problems, they should be history now.
There is no real evidence of a z4 compact being released anytime soon. For now, pretend like it doesn't exist and get whatever phone you want. Besides, the rumors indicate the phone will only be a marginal upgrade: newer processor and increased screen resolution.
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phoneowner71 said:
Hi
I'm pretty much committed to buying a Z3 Compact or the Z1 Compact as they seem to be the only smaller Androids out there.
I've noticed the price has dropped a little (£292 on Amazon) which I presume is something to do with the imminent arrival of the Z5 compact - do you think if I wait a little longer the price may fall some more?
And is the Z3C that much better than the Z1C?
Thanks
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This is just my opinion and I don't intend to talk trash about Sony phones but I'm gonna just tell you like it is.
Just so you know, I'm in IT field (Windows) and I have a comprehensive knowledge about PC hardware tech. Since I switched to android from iPhone about 2.5 years ago, I had bought quite a few phones that included 3 Sony phones.
- ZR with overheat problem even only on browsing the internet with Chrome and very poor quality display (made with TFT) => RETURNED with 15% restocking fee.
- ZL Same poor quality TFT display => I ended up gave it to my sis.
- Z3C made with IPS but with poor touch panel. Annoying touch pattern grids are visible. IPS display quality of the Z3C is well below average even compared to the iPhone 4's. Camera is mediocre at best but all the hype makes me really look down on Sony - the only company who created TA partition just to put their crappy softwares on it and tied the bootloader with it. Not that I give a rat ass about losing its DRM functions, it's just that errors pop up here and there when I unlock the bootloader.
My other 2 Android phones are the Nexus 5 and LG Optimus E970. These 2 phones' displays are superb. I wish the Z3C has the same display quality as those 2. I love its size and battery performance but Sony mobile display sucks big time. Don't get me started on Sony bloatwares (2 ecosystems on 1 device is a joke).
I have many Sony devices in my home (laptop, bluray player, tv...) but when it comes to Sony phones, I'm sure next time I'll pass.
I bought my Z3C for $520 USD. It's still 99.99% new. I would sell it to you for $300 USD if you live in my area (I wouldn't buy it even for $300 though)
Some of the cheaper Z3C listings in the US are for the D5833 overseas model. Be careful with this version, as it will suffer from limited 4G compatibility in the States.
phoneowner71 said:
Hi
I'm pretty much committed to buying a Z3 Compact or the Z1 Compact as they seem to be the only smaller Androids out there.
I've noticed the price has dropped a little (£292 on Amazon) which I presume is something to do with the imminent arrival of the Z5 compact - do you think if I wait a little longer the price may fall some more?
And is the Z3C that much better than the Z1C?
Thanks
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I have a D5803 running stock 5.0.2 and I'm very happy with the device.
It's compact, fast and battery lasts for 2 days minimum (if you don't play games).
The user interface is simple, fast and close to AOSP look&feel .
I saw no reason to hack the phone with custom ROMs or mods, since I found it to be VERY stable and basically everything works.
If you plan to heavily customize your phone, be ready to face some obstacles mainly due to the fact that Lolipop is quite new on this phone and mods are not yet perfect (although they are improving). I've gone that route before with previous phones, and usually the outcome is that you get some visual adaptations to your taste, but in fact the overall stability/performance will be worst.
Some may argue that the camera software could be better, and I tend to agree. But you will be able to take good pictures, if you use some manual settings.
In my experience, Bluetooth/NFC works very well with different gadgets/systems: hi-fi, Pebble watch, BT headphones (even using aptX), car system, ...
I haven't tested audio high-res external DACs, but some users report some devices are tricky to interface well using Lolipop. Other report their device works. Basic audio play is quite good if you have good headphones and choose the right eq settings.
Some users report the glass may crack due to overheating, and I saw many friends with other phones (like Samsung) suffering from the same issue. Mine is in perfect condition and I hope it stays that way.
In summary: I'm very happy with my gadget and I wouldn't change it for anything out there with similar form factor. And although Lolipop 5.0.2 is not perfect, I got used to it and don't see a reason to go back to KK. And 5.1 will certainly come...
Is there a perfect smartphone (hw+sw+UX+price) ? No, but in my opinion this one is a good step forward.
Oh, and if you don't want to fiddle around with connectivity issues, be sure to buy the phone that maps to your geography and operator (D5803 vs D5833) and use a ROM that was built for it.
z4c would defiantly be a "want to have" but at a premium price point, that's why i picked z3c and i got a great deal. In my eyes it's the best phone on the marked atm. If you exclude all the minitablets which i have 0 interest in.
I am in the same position as the OP.
I had some android devices (nexus s, gnexus, htc incredible s, nexus4, htc one m7), right now I have no smartphone.
Z3C seems the "right choice" except for a couple things:
1) Price: here in Portugal the lowest is 400eur. For that price you can also have: htc desire eye, galaxy s5, and a lot of other non-waterproof phones with better cameras and better screens, but also worse battery.
The Z1C is 100eur cheaper.
2) Camera: it seems that sony camera is not on pair with others, even with everyone saying that is software the truth is that nobody solved it.
3) Sudden death: there are some cases (see sony's forum) of sudden death phones.
4) Cracked glass: this I don't know if is hype or not.I had a nexus 5 and people said that it broken by itself but mine only broke by hitting the floor.
I guess that if the Z4C brings the Snappdragon 810 it won't be very good because of overheating and throttling...
Only option is to wait.
Thanks for the replies.
For me the Z3C choice comes down to physical size.
I want a smaller phone but good specs, and as far as I can see there is no competition in the Android sphere (happy to be proved wrong).
I'll be keeping the phone pretty much stock until I need to start tinkering, so mods are not a problem for me currently.
I suspect the Z3C will have OS support for longer than the Z1C so that may make the £100 difference worth paying.
phoneowner71 said:
Thanks for the replies.
For me the Z3C choice comes down to physical size.
I want a smaller phone but good specs, and as far as I can see there is no competition in the Android sphere (happy to be proved wrong).
I'll be keeping the phone pretty much stock until I need to start tinkering, so mods are not a problem for me currently.
I suspect .com/2015/04/22/sony-xperia-z4-compact-e5803-z4ultra-e6683-e6883-certification-details/"]http://www.whatsontech.com/2015/04/22/sony-xperia-z4the Z3C will have OS support for longer than the Z1C so that may make the £100 difference worth paying.
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http://www.whatsontech-compact-e5803-z4ultra-e6683-e6883-certification-details/
Z4c and Z4U are real coming and they already passed the certification process with the model number being leaked out. I guess they will out on Sep.
But if you are speaking for the battery life, Z3c with s801 and 720p will be much better. All I can think is Z4c will improve the camera software further(and also fixed the Z3/Z3c red/green/purple tint issue) and upgraded to FHD screen. I've got a Z1c, if you want a cheaper phone to wait Z4c then Z1c is still doing good. If you want battery life for all then go for Z3c now.

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