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X10 vs iPhone (only serious replies)

Hello XDA,
I'm not really sure if such a thread is allowed, but I'll give it a shot anyway (if it ain't, lock it please).
I was almost ready to get an X10, when a friend told me he is running Android on his iphone.
So I'm like:
X10: 4" screen (NO MULTITOUCH FFS)
Android (1.6 FAIL, and it can almost run normally on an iphone and 2.1 later on ??? why the hell not 2.2 ?!)
1GHz Processor (hell yeah!!, that's a huge plus for the X10) <--- EDIT: THIS IS NOT IRONIC !
8MP camera is win win
iPhone:
3.5" screen (obviously smaller than X10's)
iPhone OS seems really good (plus it can run Android....almost)
CPU is worse than X10's
HUGE amount of apps ('specially when you jb it)
So please give me some replies about my thoughts and feel free to add something.
Thanks in advance!
~sekibun

sekibun said:
Hello XDA,
I'm not really sure if such a thread is allowed, but I'll give it a shot anyway (if it ain't, lock it please).
I was almost ready to get an X10, when a friend told me he is running Android on his iphone.
So I'm like:
X10: 4" screen (NO MULTITOUCH FFS)
Android (1.6 FAIL, and it can almost run normally on an iphone and 2.1 later on ??? why the hell not 2.2 ?!)
1GHz Processor (hell yeah, that's a huge plus for the X10)
8MP camera is win win
iPhone:
3.5" screen (obviously smaller than X10's)
iPhone OS seems really good (plus it can run Android....almost)
CPU is worse than X10's
HUGE amount of apps ('specially when you jb it)
So please give me some replies about my thoughts and feel free to add something.
Thanks in advance!
~sekibun
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If multitouch is everything for you. then buy a ****ing iPhone, geeze..
The screen on the x10, is bigger and more bright than the iPhone's. The screen does also have a higher resolution as well, as it being bigger.
Why don't people stop ****ing crying about it having version 1,6? jesus.. Buy an iPhone then! Or a Nexus one!(It will get version 2,2 this week).
You seem kind of ironic when it comes to the cpu, of the x10...
In my opinion, is the x10 better than the current iPhone(s).
The only thing that I do like better when it comes to the iPhone, is the games on the iPhone's application store.
edit: Neither do I like the design on the iPhone that well. They do have almost the same design on all theyre phones. the exeptions are 2g and 4g. 3gs and 3g looks exactly the same. the front of the phone is basically the same on all the iPod touch's and iPhones.

Personally I don't care about multitouch. So for me the only thing better in a iPhone is that it's tougher and feel more solid but only because it don't have a removable back cover and that come with a price. You can't change an iPhone 16 gb xd card for a 32 gb or have many xd card and change them as you like. You can't change the battery and I don't like the way to put the sim card in. I know a lot of peoples with iphone and i'm the only one with a x10. For me x10 is way better than a iPhone.
MobileTux

You ask for serious replies, then you say things like "FFS" and "FAIL!!!!"
Go away, troll.

As you yourself pointed out that X10 has better hardware in every aspect, so then the only remaining thing is the software aspect of the phone. Well when I bought this phone I was pretty sure that we will be able to root it pretty soon, quite unfortunately though, it turns out to be not true. Well I am pretty sure SE is noticing the frustration among us (some of us are even thinking of selling this phone). I hope pretty soon we will have the flashing tool we need for rooting.
After rooting, the remaining comparision lies between Android and iphone UI. Well that's another topic entirely, the way Android apps are growing, I am pretty sure we will catch up to iphone by the end of this year. And UI wise, well..... I haven't seen their OS 4 yet. I am pretty sure it's great, but if not Android 2.2 then 2.3 will beat it , yep I am pretty sure about that.

Dear sekibun,
This is my first post in this forum.
I used Iphone for almost 6 months and I was so happy with it. However, on my past days I used only SonyEricsson mobiles starting from P Series (P900i then P910i then P990i then P1i). When I heard that SE going to release X10i with android OS, I immediately sold my Iphone and I bought X10i. To be honest with you. I am more than happy with X10i. It is definitely better than Iphone in the following aspect:-
• SIZE, LOOK AND DISPLAY. -- WITHOUT ANY DEBATE --
• CAMERA. -- WITHOUT ANY DEBATE --
• Faster GPS and better Bluetooth.
• Timescape/Mediascape UI build-in app which make your phone alive. Plus all my friends they get impressed when I show them.
• Smoother and faster internet browser.
I noticed that a bit X10i is slower than Iphone, However, it does not get slower even than if you run 25 applications in the background plus you are browsing internet and listening to wireless fm.
You don’t have to agree with me. But was my experience when I switch from iPhone 3GS to Xperia X10 .

the only good thing about iphones , that they never dies ,even the first released iphone still gets updates till now

Hardware on paper looks nice. But thw software on thy x10 doesn't take advantage of the phone. I would wait for root or 2.1 update if I were you.
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sekibun said:
Hello XDA,
I'm not really sure if such a thread is allowed, but I'll give it a shot anyway (if it ain't, lock it please).
I was almost ready to get an X10, when a friend told me he is running Android on his iphone.
So I'm like:
X10: 4" screen (NO MULTITOUCH FFS)
Android (1.6 FAIL, and it can almost run normally on an iphone and 2.1 later on ??? why the hell not 2.2 ?!)
1GHz Processor (hell yeah, that's a huge plus for the X10)
8MP camera is win win
iPhone:
3.5" screen (obviously smaller than X10's)
iPhone OS seems really good (plus it can run Android....almost)
CPU is worse than X10's
HUGE amount of apps ('specially when you jb it)
So please give me some replies about my thoughts and feel free to add something.
Thanks in advance!
~sekibun
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I've used both the 3gs and the x10. The x10's screen is gorgeous compared to the iPhone's as the pixel density and the size is greatly improved. Web browsing wise, the x10 is also about twice as fast at rendering websites. Now usability wise, the x10 belongs in the gutter of smart phones. Selecting small links in the browser is a huge pain and a lot of times when you mean to scroll in the browser the phone will open a link instead. The music player is beyond incoherency and just lacks all sorts of functionality while the iPhone uses the true and tried iPod format. Application wise the Android lags behind and x10 is even worse as a lot of apps do not support the 1.6 system. Without root, the x10 is even less customizable compared to a jailbroken iPhone. In conclusion, the x10 have a supierior hardware but it does not have the software needed to even make the everyday usage not frustrating -_- the iPhone is not as powerful, but it just works.

almaqdad, lifeflayer (and the others) ty for your answers.
first of all, i'm not ironic towards the x10's hardware.
don't know what to write lol.
i think i'm leaning towards the x10, but still not 100% sure.
waiting for more replies,
thanks !
~sekibun

hoss_n2 said:
the only good thing about iphones , that they never dies ,even the first released iphone still gets updates till now
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No, it doesn't. The first iPhone will not be getting the 4.0 update. The iPhone 3G will not be receiving multitasking, or a few of the other new features of the update.
Same for the iPod touch.
Only the new models will get the full updates.

The Problem of the iPhone is the lack of Multitasking! I have both here an Iphone and an X10. The iPhone doesnt make me happy.
Simple expample. I'm on icq and receive an sms. To read the sms i must close icq (it doesn't stay in the background) and so i loose the icq messages sent in the meanwhile.
This is the problem with everything. it's solved through push notifications, but that has nothing to do with multitasking and won't work in icq for example, because if you simply closes the program icq server thinks you're still online and all messages send in this time are sent to /dev/null ^^
Second problem is that apple always wants you to use iTunes. You can't simply copy songs etc. off the phone (only the one that you buyed in iTunes). You're also not allowed to send songs through Blutooth to friends etc.
The iPhone OS seems to be pretty smart and like apple users say "snappy", BUT use it for a while and you see all the limitations of this OS (even with Jailbreak). If you are okay with this the iPhone is a good choice. If not choose an Android phone.
The only point which is a PRO an iPhone is multitouch, but I never needed it till now.
For me the X10 is much better than the iPhone.
So choose on of your friend and play with his iPhone for a couple of hours and you will see if its good for you or not.
-Bin4ry

Here is my 2 cents.
iPhone is limited by its hardware.
X10 is limited by its software.
In the long run, X10 will only go as far as the developers at SE make it go. So potentially, it could be one of the best Android phones on the market.
This is where it won't even compete with the iPhone.
iPhone is already proven to be a success. It's OS is super good and smooth. X10's OS is laggy and basically cripples the phone with its limitations.
Technology should be here and now. You want to have everything now, not later. And the problem is that the wait doesn't give what the end-users what they want - the current best thing.
So is the iPhone better than X10? Right now it is. And when iPhone 4g comes out, X10 would be eating the dust from Apple and other Android phones.
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Thank you for your answers once again !
One question though; isn't the new update coming to the iphone providing multitasking ('cause this really is a big problem). If I finally pick the iphone, I'm getting the 3gs, so I'll be able to get the latest version of the OS right ?
Also, what arcticreaver said; I want (we all do) my features here and now !
From what I read on the forums, we are not even sure if the X10 will ever be root-able.
Ahh and by the way, do we know when iphone 4g or w/e it's called is coming out ?
~sekibun

Think about that and google for "Fast App Switch" on Iphone OS4.0
There is NO MULTITASKING in Os 4.0.
It's similar to Android but not so good. The OS 3.0 frezzes the Apps and send them so background (similar to Android) if you wanna use them they are waken up. BUT you can't let active apps in background, this will not be possible even with OS4.0, Apple only allows 2 more apps for real multitasking. There are still the same problems with OS4.0 than before. Only the apps start faster because they are frozen in background.
ICQ e.g. still won't work in background.
-Bin4ry

What's with all the bashing of the x10s software? It has some little lags sometimes but every smartphone has these kinds of lags. My jb iPhone was kinda slow and the browser crashed when surfing complex websites due RAM limitations. The iPhone is good for using as a mobile music and videoplayer. An Android device is good for nearly everything.
The x10 is not that bad with the 1.6 Android os. Multitouch is overrated. The browser experience is great. It's no problem for me to click the smart links on forums like xda. It was a pain in the ass with iPhone and hd2.
If you get an iPhone 3gs now you also could use the x10. The x10 maybe has some little limitations with Android 1.6 but the 3gs lacks hardware...
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Now and Future
I have both of devices compared (Iphone and X10).
The size of both are the same, visible screen is juste larger than Iphone.
Speed :
User Interface speed : Iphone is faster and smoother
Web Speed : Android Web Browser is faster, but less reliable than Iphone,
but i think it will be better with Android 2.2
Applications : look the same, but X10 is more beatyfull
Application Store :
the Iphone AppStore is beter, more beautyfull and more reliable.
Install and Uninstall is more userfriendly on Iphone (i don't know how to uninstall on Android)
X10 Specific :
Camera (Photos) : One word ... Beatyfulll !!!! It quality is nearly my APN
Sony N1 (8.1 Mp too)...
->Iphone's Camera is very poor !!!
Videos : Beautyfull too !!! Actualy with 800x480/30is... Nearly a Midle
quality Numeric Camescope... And Sony Promess a 720p
Reacording with the next update Android 2.1...
->CyCirder is good, X10 is so far better..
Sound : Beauty full too... Realy Better than Iphone... but actualy not so
userfriendly like iPhone... Headset is very good quality
->Iphone's sound is good, but X10 is so far better...
I'm realy wait someone find a solution to be root on this device !!! Or hope to have the lastest Update (2.2)...

I don’t understand why people making so much big deal with a small limitation that Xperia X10 have with android OS 1.6 which incomparable with big problem that Iphone does with multi-tasking.

iead1 said:
No, it doesn't. The first iPhone will not be getting the 4.0 update. The iPhone 3G will not be receiving multitasking, or a few of the other new features of the update.
Same for the iPod touch.
Only the new models will get the full updates.
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but it has been updated for along time may be 4 years of updates

Bin4ry said:
Think about that and google for "Fast App Switch" on Iphone OS4.0
There is NO MULTITASKING in Os 4.0.
It's similar to Android but not so good. The OS 3.0 frezzes the Apps and send them so background (similar to Android) if you wanna use them they are waken up. BUT you can't let active apps in background, this will not be possible even with OS4.0, Apple only allows 2 more apps for real multitasking. There are still the same problems with OS4.0 than before. Only the apps start faster because they are frozen in background.
ICQ e.g. still won't work in background.
-Bin4ry
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Some applications are allowed to run in the background, like skype, or the messenger applications.
Other applications like games and such are not allowed, and are instead frozen as you said.
Atleast, this is how I understood the whole thing.

Anyone sold there iphone4 for a SGS2

I am extremely tempted with one of these, I know this may start a fanboy android vs iOS slagging match, but what made you change, are you happy and what are the major benefits, I read on here that the SGS2 has some issues with gps, wifi and terrible battery life, this concerns me.

I'm an Android user, but...
- GPS is the fastest I've ever known in a phone
- Wifi is fine
- Battery life is dependent on what you do. There's a bug in Android 2.3.3 which has been resolved in 2.3.4, which causes excessive battery drain on dual core phones. An update is being released this month supposedly... [hey, even with the bug the life is fine IMO]

just about to sell my iphone 4, there are some things the ip4 does better but i think there are some software updates coming to the gs2 that will bring it back up to speed.

I did that. I sold my iPhone once I got my SGS II. In truth, battery life is a bit lower than iPhone but I guess it has something to do with the 2.3.3 kernel. I am now waiting for the 2.3.4 kernel but other than that, I love the SGS II.
The battery life last about a day with low usage (surfing, Whatsapp, Beejive IM and also Seesmic). Usually I end the day without about 20% battery. Also, I use Navigon with it and I am very happy with the GPS. It picks up and lock on about as fast or not even faster than the iPhone 4 with Tomtom.

I have an iPhone 4, but I'm not selling it. It's a fantastic little device. Keyword: LITTLE. I don't want to use it as a phone anymore, but I'm not going to sell it because I have a lot of money in vested in the appstore, and it lasts FOREVER as an Mp3 player! lol. It also takes great pictures .
But I got my SGS2, as well. But No, I'm not selling my iphone 4, but maybe because I afford to keep both? If I couldn't, maybe I'd sell it. The SGS2 is a way better phone and device in general, but as many people say, every phone has its pros and cons.

Just a couple of things.
The sound quality from the iPhone is quite a bit better. And there are lots more games on the iPhone.
But, the sgs2 allows you to customize the phone to a much greater extent. And its screen is simply wonderful.
If I was you, I would wait until Monday and see what apple has in store and pop in to a shop and check out the sgs2.
Personally I love my sgs2 but I am thinking of getting a mp3 player as it sounds a bit poo. But that's just me.
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Sold mine and don't look back very happy with what I have.

sold mine to get the sgs2, many pros and cons for both but happy with sgs2 and dont seem to have any battery problems,gps problems all is good. just the home button slow to wake phone up which fingers crossed it will be solved with 2.3.4 update.
but i must say ill be getting the iphone 5 on release day

Sold my iPhone 4 as well and got the SGS2 instead. Never looked back. Never really liked the iOS interface anyway so it felt great to be back on Android..

Something which is DEFINITELY worse on the Galaxy 2 in the audio quality over bluetooth. It simply SUCKS.
Since I drive a lot, it's something I really miss of my Iphone 4.... also if anybody knows about any fix (I heard of something somewhere, but never managed to get enough info), please post it to me I will be very grateful.

LondonGemini said:
Just a couple of things.
The sound quality from the iPhone is quite a bit better. And there are lots more games on the iPhone.
I find them equal for sound quality and never use MP3 player instead of the phone .
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The wife has my iphone 4, don't miss it and much prefer my SG2

Sold my iphone 4 for Sg2....only thing I miss are the quality apps in the appstore....
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Audio quality the iphone4 is definitely better unless u have a portable amp then i cant say. Only thing fun bout the iphone was jailbreaking to me and that didnt lasted very long.

I'm in the exact same position as the OP.
I have iPhone 4 but am getting a bit bored of iOS. I Jailbreak for customisation options but Android seems to be much more versatile & the lack of Jailbreak for iPad 2 worries me going forward with iDevices.
Apple need to reveal a major iOS 5 overhaul at WWDC (the introduction of widgets is essential) or I'll be getting the SGS2 at the end of the month.
If iOS5 does tick all the right boxes for me then I'm really going to be torn. I will probably run both iPhone 4 & SGS2 until the new iDevice is launched & then make the Android v iOS choice.
My only real concern about moving to SGS2 is the build quality. I've tried the store demo units & they don't have the premium feel of iPhone 4.

Nuggzy said:
I'm in the exact same position as the OP.
I have iPhone 4 but am getting a bit bored of iOS. I Jailbreak for customisation options but Android seems to be much more versatile & the lack of Jailbreak for iPad 2 worries me going forward with iDevices.
Apple need to reveal a major iOS 5 overhaul at WWDC (the introduction of widgets is essential) or I'll be getting the SGS2 at the end of the month.
If iOS5 does tick all the right boxes for me then I'm really going to be torn. I will probably run both iPhone 4 & SGS2 until the new iDevice is launched & then make the Android v iOS choice.
My only real concern about moving to SGS2 is the build quality. I've tried the store demo units & they don't have the premium feel of iPhone 4.
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I sold my Iphone 4, it was jailbreaked with lockinfo, BiteSMS and much more. The build quality on the SGS II is maybe not as great as the iPhone 4 but it is ok. The one thing I miss most is the overall better quality of apps in the appstore - and the batterylife of the iPhone

Still have the iPhone 4 with me, now whenever I use the iPhone, I feel like theres nothing missing, theres no back button!

zoobzone said:
Still have the iPhone 4 with me, now whenever I use the iPhone, I feel like theres nothing missing, theres no back button!
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That also means you save that screen space hehe. Yes the iPhone is a good phone. It has it's pros and cons. But I prefer an android phone with a 4.3 inch screen than a 3.5 inch screen device. Battery life isn't as good on a 4.3 inch fully functioning multitasking 1.2 ghz phone compared to a closed single core smaller screened device that doesn't allow any real multitasking. Shame. Oh well I'm going to get a battery case (maybe) hehe.
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Am keeping my iPhone 4 for now. Love my SGS2, prefer the bigger screen and customization options.
Battery life is much better on iPhone and prefer the build quality.
Lets see what Monday brings

Had an iPhone 4 (32gb, jailbroken, etc). Fell in love with the SGS2 after reading every article that I could find. Ordered it from expansys. Kept my iP4 just in case I didn't like the SGS2. Within 1 day I had my iP4 up on craigslist for sale.
I guess I'm lucky since my job doesn't permit me the luxury of playing with the phone all day. Battery has been more than adequate for me. Fact of the matter is I've been at or above the same level as my iP4 at the end of the day.
The thing that I'm super stoked about with this phone is it's potential that has yet to even be unleashed. IMHO it's the most future proof device out at the moment. The full capabilities haven't even been scratched yet. I'm still running a completely stock device and I couldn't be happier. Once dev's get a real hold on the device watch out. Powerhouse FTW.

Did I make the right choice

For a few days I have been running an iphone 4 along side the Galaxy S2.
One of them had to go...
I was convinced at first that the Iphone was the better of the two.
Then I began to explore the full capacity of the SGS2.
OK the market may not be as good or vast and full of the quality that the appstore has but its really beginning to get there, some of my favourite apps are beginning to show up on the Android Marketplace now.
But the clincher for me has to be the back button, larger screen, the fantastic homescreens, the tweaking and this place...
I accept the sound quality, screen dpi and market are not as good, but I was finding myself having to jailbreak my iphone just to enable pull down settings and reminders, animated backdrops, better sms, mark all as read email, better lock screen, clock widget on homescreen, better sounds, all this that comes as standard on the SGS2, what was I doing, I am obviously not an IOS compatible.
So Hopefully my final decision is going to be correct as my Iphone 4 is up for sale...thanks for all you advice and help

The exact same situation with me!!
Had to leave the legendary iphone 4 to join the extraordinary world of SGS II!!
Android rocks!!

I'm. Sure its the right choice. The only plus of the iphone I'm seeing is it has better battery life but if that doesn't bother you then you're golden.
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When you switch from iphone to sgs2, the only question should be: will I miss some apps från apple store? The rest is better in sgs2
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I know it sounds pathetic, but its scary leaving behind IOS, when you have paid out for apps and stuff, the softly fenced in world, with Android your free, wide open...eeek

THUDUK said:
I know it sounds pathetic, but its scary leaving behind IOS, when you have paid out for apps and stuff, the softly fenced in world, with Android your free, wide open...eeek
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I too was in the same boat. As a smartphone, any android phone is miles better than an iPhone - and in the case of the SGS2 vs iPhone 4, the former is doubly better since it was designed to compete with the iPhone 5.
However, as an entertainment and gaming experience, the iOS devices are absolutely miles ahead thanks to a wonderfully diverse appstore. So many talented artists are expressing themselves in wonderful ways that can't be fathomed on any other platform. My overall experience of the iPhone 4 was blissful thanks mainly to these apps and games - and i was really missing that quite badly.
So i went out and bought a cheap second-hand iPod touch 4 and am now enjoying the best of both worlds - and not missing it's phone part at all!
IMO the best gadgetry experience one can have is an SGS2 + iPad 2

Samsung Galaxy S III VS iPhone 4S - Phone Arena

Check this iPhone 4S vs SGS3
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-S-III-vs-Apple-iPhone-4S_id3038
Pretty nice

SGS3 smokes the iPhone.
But I found it almost painful to watch, how this apple fanboy tries to find a positive aspect for his love.
It was nice to see how he destroyed the myth of easier use, when he showed the music player, or how you get movies on your device (pocket cinema)

Why not compare it with next iWhatever to be fare ?
We are basically comparing everything with iPhone4s and that itself says all ..
Strictly not apple or android fanboy as both have its own set of advantages and disadvantages
Sent from Galaxy Ace which just landed on "MOON"

"There shouldn't be any doubt that the iPhone 4S is the better-designed handset." I agree with that, although I know I should keep my mouth shut until I have actually held the SGS3 in my hands. But I do feel that the iPhone sports a well thought-out design, and it does feel premium, although it's kinda heavy for being a 3.5" device, no?
"Apart from its multimedia superiority, the Galaxy S III is also the better phone if you love tinkering with the software of your mobile device." Exactly. I have enjoyed my time with the iPhone, I really have, but it's getting boring now. I've had it for a year and now I want to tinker. I want to mod. I want to change icons and I want to flash kernels. I want to try out experimental ROMs that cause bootloops. I want that kind of fun back! I love the way you can truly personalize an Android device. I miss that and I want that back.
Winterboard, you say? Oh yay, I can choose from 2,000 ugly themes to apply, and they'll all make my phone slower and less responsive? GTFO...
Really though, what's so wrong with Ray S? I think the last two paragraphs in this review really say it all and I agree with what he writes 100%
The iPhone doesn't suck! It's a really good phone if you want that simplicity! Ray doesn't suck either! He awards points to BOTH phones and I think he did a good job with this.

The review was a total joke, since he deliberately didn't mention many advantages of the GS3.
Design - 'iPhone has more premium feel', but of course he didn't say how much more durable plastic is and how fragile iPhone is.
Keyboards - of course he didn't mention that Galaxy phones come with Swype, or that you can install a number of 3rd party keyboards compared to no choice on iOS.
I could go on but it was not a very fair review at all.

S2 and the Note beat IPhone 4s. S3 is way too better.
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madman_amit said:
Why not compare it with next iWhatever to be fare ?
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That's the point. He's comparing it to a, frankly, outdated phone and still spinning it to prop them both up equally.
The 4S, after all, was really an incremental update from the year before; I don't think a comparison even deserves to be made (the only reason it even comes up is because the 4S is Apple, oh my).
Unfortunately, it's just not feasible to compare it to the next iPhone, for obvious reasons.

Android phones have set certain standards in the last year, that a new iphone has to match or they won't have a chance IMHo. Really interested to see what they do about the screen size and how they will handle he resolution dilemma.

The iPhone is beginning to look and feel really old by now.

Phone Arena has a bias toward iPhone, as seen in their S3 review, we have gone over this in the previous thread. I think to compare an iPhone to Android by itself is a stupid concept. I mean if you were to give me an iPhone 4S right now, what would I do with it? I can do more thing and have more fun with a used $120 Galaxy S variant, no exaggeration.

Kiahnlliya said:
"There shouldn't be any doubt that the iPhone 4S is the better-designed handset." I agree with that, although I know I should keep my mouth shut until I have actually held the SGS3 in my hands. But I do feel that the iPhone sports a well thought-out design, and it does feel premium, although it's kinda heavy for being a 3.5" device, no?
"Apart from its multimedia superiority, the Galaxy S III is also the better phone if you love tinkering with the software of your mobile device." Exactly. I have enjoyed my time with the iPhone, I really have, but it's getting boring now. I've had it for a year and now I want to tinker. I want to mod. I want to change icons and I want to flash kernels. I want to try out experimental ROMs that cause bootloops. I want that kind of fun back! I love the way you can truly personalize an Android device. I miss that and I want that back.
Winterboard, you say? Oh yay, I can choose from 2,000 ugly themes to apply, and they'll all make my phone slower and less responsive? GTFO...
Really though, what's so wrong with Ray S? I think the last two paragraphs in this review really say it all and I agree with what he writes 100%
The iPhone doesn't suck! It's a really good phone if you want that simplicity! Ray doesn't suck either! He awards points to BOTH phones and I think he did a good job with this.
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Kiahnlliya said:
I honestly don't get why people seem to be giving Ray S such a hard time... I actually like his reviews, both in written form and his videos as well... Maybe I just don't get it though!
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Issue i have with his every review is more of an opinion piece instead of an objective review. He has tendencies to amplify negatives that can be seen as positive things on non-apple devices.
also the conclusion that everyone who fits the criteria below to get an iphone? If he said things like ecosystem, itunes, etc then yeah i can see it but generalized conclusion that fits both device doesn't.
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Apparently, those guys would be the kind of users who don't really pay so much attention to their smartphone, but still want something that's contemporary and reliable. Are your needs limited to the basic phone stuff, surfing the web, occasional social network check and maybe even playing a game every now and then, but you have no intention of spending hours of rooting, flashing ROMs and searching for the ultimate widget set? Well, you guessed it you'll be better off with the iPhone 4S, as it's designed just for you, buddy.
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My response from the other thread

Samsung Galaxy S2 is better than iPhone 4S. But my favourite feature on iPhone 4S is Siri. But I still like the iPhone, after comparing them also.

iPhone 5s to Xperia Z3

Greetings..
I have just switched from a iPhone 5s to the Xperia Z3. Having been an iPhone user since the 3Gs, you can imagine that I might find using this new phoen a little strange..
I just wondered what the general view was and how many iPhone users have converted to Android?
I must admit, I really like what this phone has to offer but do miss things like FaceTime and iMessage.. is there no way iMessage can be introduced as an Android app?
Not a real question or anything just generally wanted to know what you guys thought...

hackmaster said:
Greetings..
I have just switched from a iPhone 5s to the Xperia Z3. Having been an iPhone user since the 3Gs, you can imagine that I might find using this new phoen a little strange..
I just wondered what the general view was and how many iPhone users have converted to Android?
I must admit, I really like what this phone has to offer but do miss things like FaceTime and iMessage.. is there no way iMessage can be introduced as an Android app?
Not a real question or anything just generally wanted to know what you guys thought...
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Hi and welcome to the world of Android. I personally made the jump years ago and never looked back. Granted there are some things that might need some time to get used to.
Your question related to facetime or imessage implies that you are from USA. In Europe that wasn't so big deal because everybody here uses whatsapp, no matter which operating system they are using. Google does have hangouts which is basically google's response imessage and while it is possible to get it on IOS also I doubt that many will use it. And because apple wants to keep everything closed there will never be imessage for Android. I suggest try using WhatsApp, that's a really good multiplatform alternative.

CandyAndy said:
Hi and welcome to the world of Android. I personally made the jump years ago and never looked back. Granted there are some things that might need some time to get used to.
Your question related to facetime or imessage implies that you are from USA. In Europe that wasn't so big deal because everybody here uses whatsapp, no matter which operating system they are using. Google does have hangouts which is basically google's response imessage and while it is possible to get it on IOS also I doubt that many will use it. And because apple wants to keep everything closed there will never be imessage for Android. I suggest try using WhatsApp, that's a really good multiplatform alternative.
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Hey
Thanks for the quick reply. No I am from the UK, but my entire family and friends circle are iPhone users, this is why the facetime and iMessage were important.
not to worry I am using Telegram at the mo, I already have WhatsApp but started using telegram as can use it via the PC and Mac too.
Thanks again for the feedback

hackmaster said:
Greetings..
I have just switched from a iPhone 5s to the Xperia Z3. Having been an iPhone user since the 3Gs, you can imagine that I might find using this new phoen a little strange..
I just wondered what the general view was and how many iPhone users have converted to Android?
I must admit, I really like what this phone has to offer but do miss things like FaceTime and iMessage.. is there no way iMessage can be introduced as an Android app?
Not a real question or anything just generally wanted to know what you guys thought...
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Welcome to the new world, hopefully you can guide your friends and family to see the light; that there are alternatives and even WP8 phones are worth a try.
iMessage is proprietary software of Apple so, unlike Blackberry, which has launched an Android app for its service you won't see iMessage on the Play store till hell freezes over. Also, facetime is just video calling, right? Well you can use skype and lots of other alternatives but I understand the advantages of having one service everything and everyone.

Hangouts is cross platform and is basically imessage and facetime all in one app. Get your iPhone friends to install hangouts.
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z3 Compact D5803

Hangouts is awesome, with a plugin for it on Chrome PC version I can get calls and see SMSs directly on my laptop. Just make sure you add your cellphone number to Google Voice.

Just my 2cents:
My first Android phone was the Samsung Infuse (dumb down version of the Galaxy). It was quite big and back then, when Jobs was still around, the size was mocked. My first iPhone was the iPhone 5 and I really enjoyed the free texts and facetime feature. The downside was the lack of customization like Quick Settings/Notifications like Android. But my GPS and app integration was better in iOS compared to Android, even for Google Maps (I don't know why, I just like the iOS version better).
I just go the Sony Xperia Z3 as well and man it is gigantic compared to my iPhone 5. Unlike the iPhone, I can only fit it into my pocket and nothing else along with it. It feels weird. I'm going to be selling mine on Swappa. Apple made a mistake IMO. The iPhone 6 should have been similar in dimension to the iPhone 5 and they should have let the iPhone 6 Plus satisfy demands for a larger phone. However, I do like how Android has evolved. It makes iOS look stale in comparison.
Unless you're a really heavy texter or make frequent use of facetime, I think you'll enjoy it, unless like me, you don't like the dimensions.

wolf0491 said:
Looks like you should have bought the Z3 Compact.?
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Perhaps but I thought it looked too thick. It's a give and take world. Just when I think Apple is going to catch up to Android with software, they blow it on the hardware side with the iPhone 6.
Time for new entrants into the market:
Go to AnandTech and check out the KAZAM Tornado 348
anandtech dot com/show/8621/thin-is-the-new-thin-hands-on-with-the-5-15-mm-kazam-tornado-348

Mity85 said:
Perhaps but I thought it looked too thick. It's a give and take world. Just when I think Apple is going to catch up to Android with software, they blow it on the hardware side with the iPhone 6.
Time for new entrants into the market:
Go to AnandTech and check out the KAZAM Tornado 348
anandtech dot com/show/8621/thin-is-the-new-thin-hands-on-with-the-5-15-mm-kazam-tornado-348
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Z3 Compact is only 1mm thicker than a iPhone 5s. I'd be surprised if you could tell the difference. I too think the iPhone 5s was one of the best phones Apple has ever designed.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/si...ne-5s,Sony-Xperia-Z3-Compact/phones/7710,8744

se1000 said:
Z3 Compact is only 1mm thicker than a iPhone 5s. I'd be surprised if you could tell the difference. I too think the iPhone 5s was one of the best phones Apple has ever designed.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/si...ne-5s,Sony-Xperia-Z3-Compact/phones/7710,8744
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You're correct. The other reason why I chose the Z3 over the Z3C was the Z3 was aesthetically pleasing. The Z3C looks like a miniature brick but the Z3 looks refined and beautiful.
Z3C
youtube dot com/watch?v=eilKbB10ZA0
Z3
youtube dot com/watch?v=7nKlEcAmTME

hackmaster said:
Greetings..
I have just switched from a iPhone 5s to the Xperia Z3. Having been an iPhone user since the 3Gs, you can imagine that I might find using this new phoen a little strange..
I just wondered what the general view was and how many iPhone users have converted to Android?
I must admit, I really like what this phone has to offer but do miss things like FaceTime and iMessage.. is there no way iMessage can be introduced as an Android app?
Not a real question or anything just generally wanted to know what you guys thought...
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Great decision mate. You will love the fact you paid less than the equivalent iDevice but for a handset that can do more. Apple no longer holds a monopoly on good looks and I think they failed in design when it came to the current crop of devices this year. The Z3 is a strikingly better looking and feeling device IMO. It will be the small things that will add up but also make a huge difference on their own. The permanent back button is a good example instead of reaching for the top for many functions n the iphone. Better notifications, discreet notifications, actionable ones, all clear or single clear. A brighter display and a darker one at night. You'll love the battery life, a staple for most Android devices for a long time. Better sharing capabilities and more intuitive share options from all apps. More power using many apps for e.g. on dropbox to create, edit and upload and change files on the fly. Unlocked NFC usability, true bluetooth sharing, waterproofing, hardware camera button, EXCELLENT digital image stabilisation, two hour app refund window no questions asked, etc etc etc. Better audio in some respects too!