As soon as the Nexus 6 is released on Verizon I am getting it and selling the Moto X 2014. The N6 is too big for me to be my daily driver but I will have to learn to deal with the size because I can root the N6.
I really like the Moto X 2014 but no root really sucks. I am sorry I bought it. Nice leather back, perfect size, great Moto features like active display, assist, etc.
I'm so bummed. But I can't be happy if I can't root and do with my phone what I want. Everytime I look at it I just feel sadness instead of the excitement I felt with my OG Moto X 2013.
The resale value really sucks too. Who would want an Android phone you can't root? Even iPhones have jailbreak!!!! Gah, I would be better off with a Verizon iPhone 6 than a Verizon Moto X 2014. Unbelievable.
I know, it didn't have root before I bought it, I knew. But I had hope that either a code would be available for sale or a dev would get lucky and find an exploit. I really wanted this to be my phone. Oh well, someone else who doesn't care about root will get a good deal.
I've learned my lesson - I will never buy a phone unless root is available BEFORE I buy it. I think if the N6 is just too big, I will get the M9 if it gets root.
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Gah, I would be better off with a Verizon iPhone 6 than a Verizon Moto X 2014. Unbelievable.
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Wow. Iphone better than android unrooted. You should be ashamed.
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As soon as the Nexus 6 is released on Verizon I am getting it and selling the Moto X 2014. The N6 is too big for me to be my daily driver but I will have to learn to deal with the size because I can root the N6.
I really like the Moto X 2014 but no root really sucks. I am sorry I bought it. Nice leather back, perfect size, great Moto features like active display, assist, etc.
I'm so bummed. But I can't be happy if I can't root and do with my phone what I want. Everytime I look at it I just feel sadness instead of the excitement I felt with my OG Moto X 2013.
The resale value really sucks too. Who would want an Android phone you can't root? Even iPhones have jailbreak!!!! Gah, I would be better off with a Verizon iPhone 6 than a Verizon Moto X 2014. Unbelievable.
I know, it didn't have root before I bought it, I knew. But I had hope that either a code would be available for sale or a dev would get lucky and find an exploit. I really wanted this to be my phone. Oh well, someone else who doesn't care about root will get a good deal.
I've learned my lesson - I will never buy a phone unless root is available BEFORE I buy it. I think if the N6 is just too big, I will get the M9 if it gets root.
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Why don't you get one from other operator and unlock it?
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Why don't you get one from other operator and unlock it?
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They don't work on Verizon. If it were that simple that is what all of us on Verizon would do.
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Wow. Iphone better than android unrooted. You should be ashamed.
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LOL! No, Motorola should be ashamed. A jailbroken iPhone is a HUGE IMPROVEMENT over an unrootable Android. Obviously you know nothing about jailbroken iPhones.
Don't be a mindless Android fanboi. iPhones have some good features and if you can jailbreak them they are MILES ABOVE an unrooted Android. Until ICS, Android was a primitive, laggy operating system whose only strong point was the ease of root. From ICS on it is much better but still, without root, it's got nothing on a jailbroken iPhone.
Maybe if it meant that much to you, next time do research before you buy.
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Maybe if it meant that much to you, next time do research before you buy.
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Reading comprehension dude, lol!!! Take a course in it, lol!!
Go back and read my post. I KNEW it was unrootable when I bought it. I just had hope that obviously didn't pan out. And now I am very disappointed.
So um no, dude, research isn't the issue. Is English not your first language? Cuz if it is, you need to work on your reading comp skills.
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LOL! No, Motorola should be ashamed. A jailbroken iPhone is a HUGE IMPROVEMENT over an unrootable Android. Obviously you know nothing about jailbroken iPhones.
Don't be a mindless Android fanboi. iPhones have some good features and if you can jailbreak them they are MILES ABOVE an unrooted Android. Until ICS, Android was a primitive, laggy operating system whose only strong point was the ease of root. From ICS on it is much better but still, without root, it's got nothing on a jailbroken iPhone.
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Not an "android fan boy" I just simply don't like apple what they stand for. Plain and simple. I'll never give them a penny of mine.
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Reading comprehension dude, lol!!! Take a course in it, lol!!
Go back and read my post. I KNEW it was unrootable when I bought it. I just had hope that obviously didn't pan out. And now I am very disappointed.
So um no, dude, research isn't the issue. Is English not your first language? Cuz if it is, you need to work on your reading comp skills.
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Wow. Got a chip on your shoulder? Take it easy man.
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Not an "android fan boy" I just simply don't like apple what they stand for. Plain and simple. I'll never give them a penny of mine.
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I don't buy their stuff either but how is an unrootable Android any better? It's not. It's just as locked down.
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Wow. Got a chip on your shoulder?
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Nope, but the poster I was responding to (which wasn't YOU) sure did. He didn't even read my post, lol! Geez, read people read!
One poster told me to get another carrier's Moto X 2014. Wow that was helpful. Not.
Do you even have a Verizon Moto X 2014? I would prefer to only hear from those with VERIZON Moto X 2014 as the rest of you don't know what it is like.
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Do you even have a Verizon Moto X 2014? I would prefer to only hear from those with VERIZON Moto X 2014 as the rest of you don't know what it is like.
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I don't have one, but looked at one and do know what it is like... which is a big reason why I switched to T-Mobile.
I think your gripe is more with Verizon than Motorola. It is big red that doesn't want you rooting your phone. There were numerous issues with Verizon and Nexus models as well, which is why a number of Nexus models ignored them. Moto isn't Apple. If they want their device registered on big red's network, they have to do as big red says.
Calm down, dude. You have a post that doesn't really contribute anything (complaining about the lack of root on a carrier locked device) and have proceeded to bash everyone in your thread.
And if root matters so much to you, why are you so dependent on a carrier that tries to lock down their devices? Why not get unlocked devices on a GSM carrier? Only reason to stick with big red is if you're grandfathered into unlimited data or if they're literally the only adequate carrier in your area.
I am also thinking about getting rid of Moto X, I am tired of waiting and there is no guarantee that it will be rooted. I really miss xposed and tethering.
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I think your gripe is more with Verizon than Motorola. It is big red that doesn't want you rooting your phone. There were numerous issues with Verizon and Nexus models as well, which is why a number of Nexus models ignored them. Moto isn't Apple. If they want their device registered on big red's network, they have to do as big red says.
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I agree but why did they allow the Nexus 6?
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And if root matters so much to you, why are you so dependent on a carrier that tries to lock down their devices? Why not get unlocked devices on a GSM carrier? Only reason to stick with big red is if you're grandfathered into unlimited data or if they're literally the only adequate carrier in your area.
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So you don't have a Verizon Moto X 2014 right? And LOL! at your other claims.
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I am also thinking about getting rid of Moto X, I am tired of waiting and there is no guarantee that it will be rooted. I really miss xposed and tethering.
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I know how you feel and it really is a shame because the phone is great other than lack of root.
I hope the M9 can be rooted. If so I will get that and sell the Nexus b/c I think the Nexus is just going to be too big.
Until it's released, there's no guarantee the bootloader is unlockable, or that it can be rooted, although I'm confident it will be.
Google has much more pull than Moto when it comes to dictating to Verizon about how their device will be used.
You also must be aware that there are no guarantees the M9 will be unlockable or rooted, right? Just because the M7 and M8 were exploitable doesn't mean the M9 will be.
You truly need to use a carrier other than Verizon if you want the freedom to unlock/root your devices. Everyone knows that
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What? Nexus 6 is like developer phone. Google doesn't allow Verizon to lock it because it's a nexus. Everyone will go with pitchforks to Verizon if they lock nexus. If Verizon insists they want to lock down nexus then Google will say no thanks and Verizon will not carry it.
Motorola or other OEMs don't have the balls to show the middle finger to the worst carrier in the world who craps every phone with ugly logos and locked devices.
For every reason that this thread started is why I left Verizon. My first smartphone was the Motorola Droid. I loved it. There were rumors that VZW would cut off unlimited data if you didn't switch to LTE now (then 2011? I forget)... so I got the best available LTE phone at the time - Samsung Droid Charge. It was the biggest mistake even with root. I vowed to never get another Samsung. Then the Galaxy Nexus happened. I got that but VZW wasn't good at updating it and I wasn't all too happy with the ROMs or its screen burn-in. I held on to that unlimited data as long as possible but good device options were severely lagging. I tried out T-Mobile with a Nexus 4 that went on sale at Google Play. It was a hard decision, but one month later I took control and switched completely to T-Mobile when the Nexus 5 came out. Best. Experience. Yet.
Why am I here? My Moto X PE just arrived and it has in common what my other devices have had - an unlocked/able bootloader. So in a long round-about way, what I'm trying to say is you might be best to switch carriers as mentioned earlier in the thread. If T-Mobile isn't a choice there's always AT&T, or any smaller MVNO, or pre-paid. You'll never have to worry about choices because it's all YOURS to make. If VZW is the only one with adequate service in your area, then it looks like your available device options will be very severely limited. I hardly believe Motorola is the one to blame here.
Cool story bro
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What? Nexus 6 is like developer phone. Google doesn't allow Verizon to lock it because it's a nexus. .
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That's not my point. My point is that VERIZON didn't allow the Nexus 4 or the Nexus 5 on their network. Why did Verizon allow the N6?
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Just picked up my M earlier...
Tempted to try Motofail or Matt's utility, but don't want to screw anything up. Anybody with any advice?
Congratualtions on your purchase..
How is the audio quality on it? No one mentioned it anywhere. Is it good in the earphones? Can you post any first impressions/ detailed review?
Sorry for the off topic
It's pretty much exactly what I expected, so far anyway. Most of the reviews I've read on it so far have been pretty accurate. Solid build, good sound (haven't used any headphones yet, but the speaker sounds great), good signal/call quality, mediocre camera (good when well lit, but typical Moto when not well lit). Even though it has the same screen as the Razr/Maxx, the S4 and new gpu definitely make a difference in the feel and animations - very smooth and snappy. It was between this and the S3 for me. I have a Nexus 7, so I didn't feel a huge phone was necessary any more.
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Just picked up my M earlier...
Tempted to try Motofail or Matt's utility, but don't want to screw anything up. Anybody with any advice?
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Are those root utilities? Been awhile since I owned a Motorola device.
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Motofail was drjbliss's root utility for the Bionic.
Matt's Utility was mattlgroff's utility for the Razr / Razr Maxx. Did a lot more than just root... a LOT.
A word to the wise for those want to root and mod this phone and future Motorola devices.
All of the Motorolas since the Droid 3 have been rooted by one person, djrbliss and he has stated that he will not be doing this any longer.
If you want to be certain of the ability to root and modify your phone and flash custom software, you should purchase the developer edition.
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A word to the wise for those want to root and mod this phone and future Motorola devices.
All of the Motorolas since the Droid 3 have been rooted by one person, djrbliss and he has stated that he will not be doing this any longer.
If you want to be certain of the ability to root and modify your phone and flash custom software, you should purchase the developer edition.
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Hopefully someone else then will find a way to root the M and Razr HD.
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Hopefully someone else then will find a way to root the M and Razr HD.
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Agreed because this is an awesome phone that I hope does not slip through the cracks for whatever reason.
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Agreed because this is an awesome phone that I hope does not slip through the cracks for whatever reason.
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I think the launch time could have been better. Everyone is focused on the iPhone launch now. I think for people that want an android phone on Verizon, most people will still go with the Galaxy S3. Larger phones have been the trend for the past few years. It's nice to see a high performance device like RAZR M available for people who want something in smaller form factor.
It would be great to see this community on XDA grow and I think it will in time. Hopefully root comes at some point too. The phone is brand new. Not everyone is willing to be an early adopter unless they're buying from Apple or Samsung.
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I think the launch time could have been better. Everyone is focused on the iPhone launch now. I think for people that want an android phone on Verizon, most people will still go with the Galaxy S3. Larger phones have been the trend for the past few years. It's nice to see a high performance device like RAZR M available for people who want something in smaller form factor..
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I'd venture to guess that VZW will sell a crapload of these Razr Ms. People will walk into a Verizon store, play with the phone, find out how fast it is, are blown away by the price, and tell the guy or gal to wrap it up. Hotcakes, I tell you.
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I'd venture to guess that VZW will sell a crapload of these Razr Ms. People will walk into a Verizon store, play with the phone, find out how fast it is, are blown away by the price, and tell the guy or gal to wrap it up. Hotcakes, I tell you.
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The problem lies with what was previously stated. Most people are trending to bigger devices/screens (I don't know why personaly, but I also don't see how people think the Nokia smartphones are "sexy" either...guess I am out of touch). I laugh at a co-worker daily about his Note. It looks like he is smuggling a clipboard in his pocket and when he makes a call, it reminds me of movies from the mid 80's and the massive cells from that era. The GS3 even makes the M look like a dwarf. I wouldn't want to go back to a 3.5" screen, but a 4.8"-5.5" screen on a phone is rediculous IMO. To each his own, but I don't think the M will blow up the sales charts as basicaly a mid-range spec'd, non-HD, niche market phone. On that note, I love my M, lol.
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The problem lies with what was previously stated. Most people are trending to bigger devices/screens (I don't know why personaly, but I also don't see how people think the Nokia smartphones are "sexy" either...guess I am out of touch). I laugh at a co-worker daily about his Note. It looks like he is smuggling a clipboard in his pocket and when he makes a call, it reminds me of movies from the mid 80's and the massive cells from that era. The GS3 even makes the M look like a dwarf. I wouldn't want to go back to a 3.5" screen, but a 4.8"-5.5" screen on a phone is rediculous IMO. To each his own, but I don't think the M will blow up the sales charts as basicaly a mid-range spec'd, non-HD, niche market phone. On that note, I love my M, lol.
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But you also have to consider that before the M, there weren't really any good small Android phones. Manufacturers are convinced that bigger is better, so they keep putting the good specs in giant phones. Motorola has finally tapped the market that existed all along...people who want small phones that perform just as well as the Roid Rage phones. It's quite possible that a lot of people picked up bigger phones because they had no other option, other than the iPhone.
Additionally, his phone hasn't even been available in stores for 2 days, and it's already dropped to $50 on Amazon. At this rate, it will be free by Christmas, and people always love free. As long as Verizon doesn't stuff it in a corner underneath some cobwebs, I see this phone flying off the shelves.
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But you also have to consider that before the M, there weren't really any good small Android phones. Manufacturers are convinced that bigger is better, so they keep putting the good specs in giant phones. Motorola has finally tapped the market that existed all along...people who want small phones that perform just as well as the Roid Rage phones. It's quite possible that a lot of people picked up bigger phones because they had no other option, other than the iPhone.
Additionally, his phone hasn't even been available in stores for 2 days, and it's already dropped to $50 on Amazon. At this rate, it will be free by Christmas, and people always love free. As long as Verizon doesn't stuff it in a corner underneath some cobwebs, I see this phone flying off the shelves.
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I agree that there is an untapped market of people who want high end specs in a small package. I'll be curious to see just how big that market is.
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Count me in as one that wanted good specs in a smaller phone. I've been sitting on an upgrade for my Incredible since the beginning of the year. The trend towards huge phones really had me disheartened. If I didn't see the Razr M, I probably would've gotten a iPhone 4s.
My Razr M arrives Monday. Can't wait.
I have a Galaxy S3 but I wanted to share a tip for anyone looking to unlock the bootloader....Samsung was supposed to release a Developer Edition Galaxy S3, but they never did....When the bootloader still hadnt been unlock they were saying it was completely possible to take the unlocked bootloader from the developer edition(if it had existed) and port it to the Locked S3...so if someone does happen to buy the Developer edition, they should look into helping out the rest of the Razr M community
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I have a Galaxy S3 but I wanted to share a tip for anyone looking to unlock the bootloader....Samsung was supposed to release a Developer Edition Galaxy S3, but they never did....When the bootloader still hadnt been unlock they were saying it was completely possible to take the unlocked bootloader from the developer edition(if it had existed) and port it to the Locked S3...so if someone does happen to buy the Developer edition, they should look into helping out the rest of the Razr M community
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That would be nice, and if something like that existed, we wouldn't have to use the Motorola tool, so they wouldn't know that we unlocked it. We might just be able to go back to the locked one before sending the phone in for service.
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Count me in as one that wanted good specs in a smaller phone. I've been sitting on an upgrade for my Incredible since the beginning of the year. The trend towards huge phones really had me disheartened. If I didn't see the Razr M, I probably would've gotten a iPhone 4s.
My Razr M arrives Monday. Can't wait.
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Agreed and I was actually going to be doing the exact same thing, but was quite disheartened because I didn't want to be giving up android.
So glad that didn't happen!
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Well, i am not a developer, but I bought a RAZR M off eBay and apparently its a developer phone... don't know if I could be any help, but I might be willing to give it a try if no one else steps up...
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Well, i am not a developer, but I bought a RAZR M off eBay and apparently its a developer phone... don't know if I could be any help, but I might be willing to give it a try if no one else steps up...
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Have you unlocked it yet? Please PM me if you need help
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Well, i am not a developer, but I bought a RAZR M off eBay and apparently its a developer phone... don't know if I could be any help, but I might be willing to give it a try if no one else steps up...
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Have you unlocked it yet? Please PM me if you need help
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Just make sure your Android SDK tools are updated to 4.1 and that your your device drivers are up to date. Also helps to plug the phone in, after the moto software is installed, while it's in debugging mode once. It will install some diff drivers for that mode. you should have no problem unlocking.
To get the phone ready to get the code, just power it down. Hold both volume +/- keys down and then the power button. Use the down volume key to select AP Fastboot. Then volume up, once, to select it. Now, connect the usb connector and go to c:\Android-sdk-Windows\tools in a cmd console. Type what the site advises and go from there (- the $'s).
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And, I have to add... Those who use the Atrix HD as an example that this thing will be hard pressed to be rooted...we will have unlocked bootloaders out there. That means someone can find an exploit to at least get us root. Unlocking the bootloader is probably not going to happen. It's hardware locked. I would love a root exploit, though.
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/02/1...arts-motorola-to-take-over-as-ceo-of-dropbox/
Well, it was a good ride gentlemen. Who knows what's going to happen with Moto now. Sad day indeed.
Okey,This is a bad news...
Any chance they make Punit Soni the CEO?
That guy breathes updates
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Any chance they make Punit Soni the CEO?
That guy breathes updates
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Wow, wouldn't that be a treat?
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Wow, wouldn't that be a treat?
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Yes ...but I just wish Punit soni does not leave moto too....He is former Google so maybe Google would just call him back
Anyway on giving it another thought Motorola is not based on ideas on one or a few people (unlike some fruity companies) Its work on collective thinking and am sure Lenovo has a track record of buying failing businesses and converting them into profits (The ibm thinkpad made them the No.1 pc manufacturer in the world).....I am sure they are gonna be the best thing for motorola Provided they ditch their own smartphone line
The more I've thought about it, the more I think this will be okay. Google gets bored easily, and I liken them to a kid in a candy store, hyped up on sugar and won't stop touching things. They like to be the first to something, but beyond that they have mediocre, beta products.
Bad news. He was one of the few CEOs that has great experience, but thinks as a 20 year-old guy (which is great, as he knows what people like).
After selling to Lenovo,now Dennis Woodside leave Motorola.bad news.i dont see Moto so good in future.
they will became like Samsung or other chinese company with low quality products and no quick updates.
i hope i m wrong
No surprise considering the upcoming buyout. I would expect to see more leave before the buyout is complete. Some by choice and some by layoff.
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The beginning of the end?
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After selling to Lenovo,now Dennis Woodside leave Motorola.bad news.i dont see Moto so good in future.
they will became like Samsung or other chinese company with low quality products and no quick updates.
i hope i m wrong
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I wouldn't call the update to 4.4.2 anything close to quick. My S4 may get the update before my Moto X. The update to 4.4 was quick....4.4.2, not so much.
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I wouldn't call the update to 4.4.2 anything close to quick. My S4 may get the update before my Moto X. The update to 4.4 was quick....4.4.2, not so much.
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Got my 4.4.2.
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Got my 4.4.2.
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Yeah, rub it in
They still got a couple of years under googles watch, but after that looks like any developer edition phone will do. Either HTC or Samsung because even though you might hate tw Samsung still makes pretty good phones and with developer editions they're already running aosp.
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They still got a couple of years under googles watch, but after that looks like any developer edition phone will do. Either HTC or Samsung because even though you might hate tw Samsung still makes pretty good phones and with developer editions they're already running aosp.
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I am big on build quality, "radios", and battery life, and that's why I've loved Moto. Samsung has never truly impressed me in those areas. I don't know enough about HTC, other than messing with my Dads Rezound, so I will reserve judgment there.
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They still got a couple of years under googles watch, but after that looks like any developer edition phone will do. Either HTC or Samsung because even though you might hate tw Samsung still makes pretty good phones and with developer editions they're already running aosp.
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The Samsung GNote3 Dev Ed for Verizon has never been in stock
Just a thread to discuss the lollipop ota for the Verizon moto x!
Any rumors?
It's Verizon. Will most likely be the last version to get any updates
Sometime between now and never
Remember last year Verizon was first and they released on the sixteenth for og x
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Remember last year Verizon was first and they released on the sixteenth for og x
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Yeah, but they didn't have the turbo last year
I remember the note 3 took forever to get kk. I wouldn't be surprised its well into 2015 until we get lollipop
Well today's the sixteenth who knows
With the staged rollout model, even phones that have an ota available might not get them for another week or so. My Nexus 4 and 7 (2013) are both still waiting, and I won't be too concerned unless another week goes by without the update hitting.
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I remember the note 3 took forever to get kk. I wouldn't be surprised its well into 2015 until we get lollipop
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It goes without saying, but updates for the Note 3 are not comparable to updates for the Moto X. Moto updates faster than any other brand....especially Samsung. Takes a while to update all the bloat Sammy puts on their phones.
I don't know when we will get the update, but I'd bet it's well before the end of the year.
Hopefully we can get root at least also. Lol
Well there has not been a soak test yet so immanent release is improbable.
Ikr. One can dream right lol. Came and went nothing. Oh well. I'm sure a soak will be soon. "We're working hard with our partners" soo
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Well there has not been a soak test yet so immanent release is improbable.
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Do they do a soak with Verizon devices?
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Do they do a soak with Verizon devices?
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Yes. I have been part of a few of them.
well, then it's not very reassuring that they haven't even gotten to step 1 with updates for us. this pretty much sums up my thoughts that verizon will screw us over. i was sold on this phone with the promises of fast updates, but seeing how verizon didn't really advertise the phone, no accessory makers even bothered with cases or accessories for this phone, it really seems like verizon and everyone else is basically saying screw the moto x. i really don't think the verizon version will get the attention or front running treatment that the 2013 model had. i really don't see L coming to the verizon version before december, possibly not even before 2015. i was hoping for good things for this phone, it doesn't seem like it's going to happen. motorola really screwed us over by releasing the turbo 2 weeks after the X. i think this is it for me with the x, i'll just get the new nexus once i can confirm it will work on verizon.
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well, then it's not very reassuring that they haven't even gotten to step 1 with updates for us. this pretty much sums up my thoughts that verizon will screw us over. i was sold on this phone with the promises of fast updates, but seeing how verizon didn't really advertise the phone, no accessory makers even bothered with cases or accessories for this phone, it really seems like verizon and everyone else is basically saying screw the moto x. i really don't think the verizon version will get the attention or front running treatment that the 2013 model had. i really don't see L coming to the verizon version before december, possibly not even before 2015. i was hoping for good things for this phone, it doesn't seem like it's going to happen. motorola really screwed us over by releasing the turbo 2 weeks after the X. i think this is it for me with the x, i'll just get the new nexus once i can confirm it will work on verizon.
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let me ask you a question, why do you think that Verizon screwed? Just because they did not come put with the update the day others got it does not mean they screwed you. Not even all the N5 has the OTA update so relax already it will come. Also to all the people complaining about Verizon you guys made that choice to be with a carrier that does not like unlocked boot loaders so if you want to change switch to a different carrier like T-Mobile and you can go out and get a pure Motox that's what I did I left sprint to get a really nice phone. So the choice us up to you guys just please stop b*itching about it already
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let me ask you a question, why do you think that Verizon screwed? Just because they did not come put with the update the day others got it does not mean they screwed you. Not even all the N5 has the OTA update so relax already it will come. Also to all the people complaining about Verizon you guys made that choice to be with a carrier that does not like unlocked boot loaders so if you want to change switch to a different carrier like T-Mobile and you can go out and get a pure Motox that's what I did I left sprint to get a really nice phone. So the choice us up to you guys just please stop b*itching about it already
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Damn somebody got him PO'ed
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Damn somebody got him PO'ed
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im not upset at all and im not trying to start anything so sorry if I came off that way. just read his post it BS he is b*tching about an update that not even everyone else has yet. some people just need to understand that things take time.
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let me ask you a question, why do you think that Verizon screwed? Just because they did not come put with the update the day others got it does not mean they screwed you. Not even all the N5 has the OTA update so relax already it will come. Also to all the people complaining about Verizon you guys made that choice to be with a carrier that does not like unlocked boot loaders so if you want to change switch to a different carrier like T-Mobile and you can go out and get a pure Motox that's what I did I left sprint to get a really nice phone. So the choice us up to you guys just please stop b*itching about it already
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Yeah! You tell them, ewalk4866!!!
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well, then it's not very reassuring that they haven't even gotten to step 1 with updates for us. this pretty much sums up my thoughts that verizon will screw us over. i was sold on this phone with the promises of fast updates, but seeing how verizon didn't really advertise the phone, no accessory makers even bothered with cases or accessories for this phone, it really seems like verizon and everyone else is basically saying screw the moto x. i really don't think the verizon version will get the attention or front running treatment that the 2013 model had. i really don't see L coming to the verizon version before december, possibly not even before 2015. i was hoping for good things for this phone, it doesn't seem like it's going to happen. motorola really screwed us over by releasing the turbo 2 weeks after the X. i think this is it for me with the x, i'll just get the new nexus once i can confirm it will work on verizon.
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I wouldn't say the 2013 X got front running treatment. There was the same problem with accessories. We got lucky that it was updated so fast. There was no real advertising with the 2013 either. Lollipop has been out for relatively no time. We all want it just as bad as the next guy, but give it a rest. It's been assured that the 2014 X will get it, and we will.
Well, it's been fun. The RAZR HD, unlocked bootloader, has been a joy. But, it was time to move on. Not only do I give up my unlocked phone, I also had to give up my unlimited data. But, with Verizon, unlimited data customers can get the 6gb max plan for $30/month, and I never really went over 6 gb but maybe once or twice in the last 2+ years that I had unlimited 4g data.
So, now I'm off to the land of LG with my LG3, which is kind of ironic as an LG Vortex was my first smartphone, so in some respects, I've come full circle.
My lineage of phones was LG Vortex (free on Thanksgiving day but BOY was it slow - it was a budget Android), Droid X2, Droid RAZR MAXX HD, Droid RAZR HD and now the LG G3.
With the XT926 unlocked (for most), this is still a good phone to have and with the recent Lollipop CM12 releases, you know the dev community is hard at work for this phone still, so enjoy. The LG G3 (for the US) doesn't have an official LP yet, but CM12 has been released for it.
Ciao and I'll probably drop in from time to time to still lend assistance for those that are having issues.
Have fun with the phone. I've enjoyed my M8 since I've had it. Hopefully, we'll still see you around here from time to time.
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Same here. I had an upgrade available the week of Thanksgiving so I dropped my MAXX HD for the $1 deal on the Galaxy S5. I will say the S5 is lightning fast compared to the MAXX.
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Same here. I had an upgrade available the week of Thanksgiving so I dropped my MAXX HD for the $1 deal on the Galaxy S5. I will say the S5 is lightning fast compared to the MAXX.
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Any word on a BL unlock yet? Had one for a couple months. Even with root, I couldn't make TW bearable enough to use anymore. Sold it and tried the turbo for 14 days but wasnt a fan of the ballistic nylon. This phone might be lacking in processor and ram but its still one of my favorite phones.
No word on an unlocked bootloader yet. There are several online petitions to try and get it. One can only hope.
I personally think we will see more and more locked bootloaders on Verizon phones so they can push the developer editions. More money in Big Red's pockets.
Good luck with the new device bud. I remember you from the DX2 days.
I'm stuck wishing the Turbo was unlockable, or the Nexus 6 was smaller, so I'm sticking with ye olde Vanquish for now.
Weird how everyone (or so it seems) is jumping ship lately.
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Weird how everyone (or so it seems) is jumping ship lately.
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I still have my Razr M, but I sacrificed my unlocked HD for my M8. I just wanted a flagship device, that's why I stepped up.
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Good luck with the new device bud. I remember you from the DX2 days.
I'm stuck wishing the Turbo was unlockable, or the Nexus 6 was smaller, so I'm sticking with ye olde Vanquish for now.
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It's hard to forget that face. Lol. Good luck sir, enjoy!
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Well, it's been fun. The RAZR HD, unlocked bootloader, has been a joy. But, it was time to move on. Not only do I give up my unlocked phone, I also had to give up my unlimited data. But, with Verizon, unlimited data customers can get the 6gb max plan for $30/month, and I never really went over 6 gb but maybe once or twice in the last 2+ years that I had unlimited 4g data.
So, now I'm off to the land of LG with my LG3, which is kind of ironic as an LG Vortex was my first smartphone, so in some respects, I've come full circle.
My lineage of phones was LG Vortex (free on Thanksgiving day but BOY was it slow - it was a budget Android), Droid X2, Droid RAZR MAXX HD, Droid RAZR HD and now the LG G3.
With the XT926 unlocked (for most), this is still a good phone to have and with the recent Lollipop CM12 releases, you know the dev community is hard at work for this phone still, so enjoy. The LG G3 (for the US) doesn't have an official LP yet, but CM12 has been released for it.
Ciao and I'll probably drop in from time to time to still lend assistance for those that are having issues.
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'Sup bro.
Funny how I have been thinking of making the same exact jump recently. How do you like the phone?
Just to clarify, the LG is still on 4.4.x, is rootable, and is unlockable? I've learned that I cannot live without my Xposed Framework mods, thus need those three requirements in any phone I decide to go with (well, at least root and 4.4.x, the unlocking is a nice added bonus to flash custom ROMs from time to time). Turbo - out. Nexus 6 - out. G3 seems to be the only logical option, other than the M8 possibly, but I just can't get over the nasty casing on the M8...
I'll be spending the 600 bones full price to keep my unlimited data. Using over 20GB a month every month I'll make back the cost in no time, lol.
...looks like I'll be seeing you soon over in the LG forums now.
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Have fun with the phone. I've enjoyed my M8 since I've had it. Hopefully, we'll still see you around here from time to time.
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Definitely. Still like to see how everyone else is doing and lend a helping hand where possible.
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Good luck with the new device bud. I remember you from the DX2 days.
I'm stuck wishing the Turbo was unlockable, or the Nexus 6 was smaller, so I'm sticking with ye olde Vanquish for now.
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Oh, I remember those days. Remember Milton and the infamous "I have code to unlock the bootloader from a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy...". That went viral!
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It's not like I wanted to, but it was time to move on. The HD, as great as it is with an unlocked bootloader, was getting long in the tooth. Plus, mine was beginning to act up.
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'Sup bro.
Funny how I have been thinking of making the same exact jump recently. How do you like the phone?
Just to clarify, the LG is still on 4.4.x, is rootable, and is unlockable? I've learned that I cannot live without my Xposed Framework mods, thus need those three requirements in any phone I decide to go with (well, at least root and 4.4.x, the unlocking is a nice added bonus to flash custom ROMs from time to time). Turbo - out. Nexus 6 - out. G3 seems to be the only logical option, other than the M8 possibly, but I just can't get over the nasty casing on the M8...
I'll be spending the 600 bones full price to keep my unlimited data. Using over 20GB a month every month I'll make back the cost in no time, lol.
...looks like I'll be seeing you soon over in the LG forums now.
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The phone for me is great. It's big, but it doesn't feel too big. My one gripe with it is it feels slippery due to the back. But, it feels lighter and so much thinner than the HD. Battery life is pretty good for me as well.
Yes, it's still on 4.4.2, but it has all the 4.4.4 security patches (like the HD). It is rootable up to version 10b. Beyond that, you have to downgrade it back to 10b, which you can do unlike the Razr HD. Once it's rooted via the Stump exploit, you can then get what is called a "bumped" version of TWRP which will then allow you to flash custom ROMs that are "bumped". Basically, it "fools" the phone into thinking what you are flashing is indeed official. So, we have CM11 (official), CM12 (unofficial), BlissPop and many other custom ROMs. But, I'm pretty much happy with this phone out of the box as it is, so I only root it so I can enable writing to the external SD card as well as use TiBu to backup and restore my apps, plus run Greenify just to eek out a little more battery life. But, battery life is definitely better than the RazrHD.
The difference in the screens between the HD and the G3 are night and day. I mean, we have a better pixel density than your 1080p HD TVs! Some may say you can't see the difference, but when I watch movies on my phone, wow. I can see the difference between what the Razr HD had and what this one has. Plus, the 5.5" screen is awesome.
I love the Knock feature, where you can set a "tap" pattern to unlock the phone, even when the screen is off. So, no need to turn on the screen first to unlock it. Just "knock" your pattern and then the screen comes on. Also, if you forget you pattern, fear not. When you set up the knock pattern, it will ask you for a PIN number as a fail safe measure, so if after 10 tries, you don't get the knock pattern correct, it will then ask for your PIN number. I haven't had it fail on me. I love it.
There's so much more, but I don't want to go into G3 love in the HD forums. Suffice it say, yes, I'm VERY happy with it. I might have to say this is the best Android phone I've had yet.
Just in case you have any questions, let me point you to this FAQ which has a lot of excellent information which is what I read and made sure that this phone was rootable and had custom ROMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/help-thread-lg-g3-question-t2947298
Also, there are two sets of forums for this phone. One is for the general G3 populace. There is another one specific to the Verizon model (VS985):
General G3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3
Verizon G3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3
Also, here is an excellent article that compares the G3 to the Samsung S5:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/galaxy-s5-vs-lg-g3/
See you over there if you get the G3.
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It's not like I wanted to, but it was time to move on. The HD, as great as it is with an unlocked bootloader, was getting long in the tooth. Plus, mine was beginning to act up.
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On the plus side, you can now read your emails and surf faster. Is Bluetooth faster? I bet benchmarks are out of this world. Do Mp3s sound crisper?
Sorry, I was being sarcastic. Long in the tooth. For what? Acting up? Perhaps, or perhaps you dropped it one too many times to get that shiny new LG
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On the plus side, you can now read your emails and surf faster. Is Bluetooth faster? I bet benchmarks are out of this world. Do Mp3s sound crisper?
Sorry, I was being sarcastic. Long in the tooth. For what? Acting up? Perhaps, or perhaps you dropped it one too many times to get that shiny new LG
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Nah, didn't drop it. It seemed like the radio was going bad. Kept losing signal. I replaced the SIM card and that seemed to help for a bit, but then it started acting up again. Since I use this as a personal plus on-call phone for work, I needed to get one that was reliable. Yes, the HD was reliable, until the radio went bad.
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Nah, didn't drop it. It seemed like the radio was going bad. Kept losing signal. I replaced the SIM card and that seemed to help for a bit, but then it started acting up again. Since I use this as a personal plus on-call phone for work, I needed to get one that was reliable. Yes, the HD was reliable, until the radio went bad.
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I personally think Verizon ruined a perfectly good device and will continue to do so in the future. Glad you enjoy your new toy, I'm sure I would too except that my wife has clearly stated I need to stick with this one for quite some time On the plus side, I get her Xperia T to play with so it's not all bad for 'ol seedub...
EDIT: And the fact that it's Google-ish (the HD) means a good upgrade path future-wise. It's always been my argument when people ask me why I don't run with Samsung or the other guys. Personally, I think Samsung is garbage, I was on a tour of their factory while I was in Korea, it's all cool and stuff but they always feel cheap and knock-off to me. Was hoping Rogers would get a Turbo in, I'd switch to that but they only got the Moto G LTE and one other G-like model.
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I personally think Verizon ruined a perfectly good device and will continue to do so in the future. Glad you enjoy your new toy, I'm sure I would too except that my wife has clearly stated I need to stick with this one for quite some time On the plus side, I get her Xperia T to play with so it's not all bad for 'ol seedub...
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That's what my wife said when I got the HD, that I was never going to upgrade again. Well, once she couldn't text or call me when she needed something that was an "emergency", that changed her tune real quick!
I hated moving away from the HD (due to the unlocked bootloader) and having to lose my unlimited data plan, but once I found out about the 6gb plan, I decided that was fine. I rarely went over 6gb, so to me, it wasn't much of a loss and I got an excellent phone out of the deal for a great price. Still wish I would have upgrade during Thanksgiving/Black Friday when the red one was free. Oh well. I like black better any ways.
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That's what my wife said when I got the HD, that I was never going to upgrade again. Well, once she couldn't text or call me when she needed something that was an "emergency", that changed her tune real quick!
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It fills me with hope to see how universal wives are. Lets me know that it's not just *me*
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It fills me with hope to see how universal wives are. Lets me know that it's not just *me*
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Good thing they don't read these forums then. You and I would be in some deep crap! :highfive:
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Good thing they don't read these forums then. You and I would be in some deep crap! :highfive:
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I am sending anonymous emails to all wives on the planet at this moment. LOL
...second thought, I'll give you both a pass due to your more than helpful post above about the G3, links, etc.
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...or perhaps you dropped it one too many times to get that shiny new LG
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I'm about to "accidentally" drop mine out the closed window across the room just to get ANY different phone, lol. "They" really ruined a good thing with these HDs. Should have put more effort into the KK build, not just threw something together as a PR gag ("look, we updated an old model phone. We have great customer service. Blah blah blah.").
im waiting for the nexus 6 to come to Verizon then i getting it but i will be keeping my hd for playing
Hello, i just wanted bring all of you together to read this thread. Ok so i know since you've been a Moto owner, you've heard or seen at least once insulting comment about your device or the Motorola company. For example, "Anything that Motorola makes sucks" "People only get them because they're cheap" "That phone is crappy". I know that those people are ignorant to other people's liking. I'm tired of hearing the same thing. A lot of people that own super expensive high end- flashy smartphones say things like that about devices like the Moto series. Well that really offends me, just because they might not be the most high-end smartphones or the most expensive smartphones doesn't mean they are worthless. We Moto owners take great pride in our device, we appreciate what we have and we value our smartphones.
If someone offered me a brand new Galaxy S6 and a brand new Moto X and said i could only pick one. I would pick the Moto X hands down without a doubt in my mind. Because I know, We know what matters in a smartphone. What is that? User experience and performance for the price. That's what a review comes down to at the end of the day. A company could make a super spec'd out smartphone but get the same review score as a phone a fraction of its cost. I know if i were to buy a $1000 smartphone it better be great in every aspect and i know if i bought a smartphone for half that price, i'm not expecting it to be perfect but i want to have a good performance. That's exactly what motorola does, it gives you a great performing phone for the price.
For example, the Moto G. It has a low price point but does everything you need it to do. If I want a super powerful gaming machine of a smartphone, I'm not going to buy the Moto G. Then give a bad review for not being able to do what i wanted it to. I'm gonna buy a smartphone with a powerful chipset. At the end of the day we Moto owners stand out. Other people don't seem to understand our taste in smartphones value. Im not saying if you own a super expensive phone you're a bad person or anything. I'm just saying you get what you pay for. All of you Moto owners, good job in picking a smartphone. It doesn't matter if you have a Moto E, a Moto G or a Moto X. We all are equal and unified. #Teammoto
Proof that price doesn't matter
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I have a Moto X 2013 and I had recently acquired a Samsung Galaxy S4. The S4 ran hotter, slower, and had screen issues. I ended up selling it for less than it cost for me to buy and repair the Galaxy S4. Custom rom support for the samsung galaxy S4 was amazing. I really look forward to seeing how the Moto X 2013 handles with lollipop.
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I would really like sd card slot.
This thread is full of win.
the phone sucks and people posting threads like this are idiots.
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the phone sucks and people posting threads like this are idiots.
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You're just jealous you didn't have the idea to create a badass thread like this.
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andTab said:
the phone sucks and people posting threads like this are idiots.
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You're just jealous you didn't have the idea to create a badass thread like this.
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Mods, please do everyone a favor and close this thread. While I truly appreciate someone trying to start something positive here about the Moto X, after the last couple of posts, I can see exactly where this thread is going and it's not a nice place. I'm all for people expressing their opinion but I think that it may be better for everyone that's on this forum to nip it in the bud. It's already starting to go downhill and this thread was started earlier today.
By the way, I do own a Moto X (2013) Developer Edition and think that it's a wonderful phone. The screen went black on the one that I owned all of a sudden a week and a half ago. I called Motorola and got a warranty replacement within one week. Thank goodness I had a Samsung Galaxy S3 that I could use as a backup but when I got my Moto X back, I realized the exact reason why I love the Motorola smartphones. Samsung Galaxy S3 drags when you compare it to the Moto X (2013) Developer Edition.
Glad to have my little speed demon back.
Coming from a proud Motorola Moto X owner.
Motorola is lame in case of updating moto x to lollipop while other phones are being updated as soon as new firmware is available.
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Motorola is lame in case of updating moto x to lollipop while other phones are being updated as soon as new firmware is available.
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That's odd. The only Android phones that I know of that get the updates as soon as the new firmware is available are the Nexus line of smartphones. All of the other ones, you do have to wait a little while before the update rolls out. You know, sometimes it is not the phone manufacturer's fault that the update is delayed. Sometimes it can be because of something on your wireless phone carrier's end. I know Verizon is famous for delaying the releases until all of their bloatware will work with the phone's update. I've experienced it on multiple phones with them (Samsung and Motorola) and that part is very frustrating. There is no need in throwing Motorola under the bus on this.
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That's odd. The only Android phones that I know of that get the updates as soon as the new firmware is available are the Nexus line of smartphones. All of the other ones, you do have to wait a little while before the update rolls out. You know, sometimes it is not the phone manufacturer's fault that the update is delayed. Sometimes it can be because of something on your wireless phone carrier's end. I know Verizon is famous for delaying the releases until all of their bloatware will work with the phone's update. I've experienced it on multiple phones with them (Samsung and Motorola) and that part is very frustrating. There is no need in throwing Motorola under the bus on this.
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As you see for moto x didnt get the update yet but my s4 got it. M not criticising moto i love my moto x but they are slow in contrast to updates..
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As you see for moto x didnt get the update yet but my s4 got it. M not criticising moto i love my moto x but they are slow in contrast to updates..
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Well, that's just an anomaly. Normally, Samsung is slow as molasses about their updates. I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 8.0 Wi-Fi model and it hasn't received the Lollipop update yet. My sister has the S5 and she got her Lollopop update fairly quickly but her phone doesn't work as well as my Moto X does now. Wonder if Samsung pushed it out too quickly and didn't get all of the bugs out. Some of my friends have the Samsung phones that got the Lollipop update and while it runs okay, they also have issues with this new update.
Something to ponder. Maybe we ought to be patient and wait for the parties involved to get all the little kinks worked out of this update before they roll it out to everyone.