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Do you plan on going from a "higher spec'd" device to the Moto X...

and why? I like the simple design, hopefully this 4.7" screen will be more readable than the htc one 4.7" screen. I'm thinking so? But if I get the device I'll be coming from an sgs4. Kinda tired of touchjizz and always had a softspot for motorola, and miss my nexus 4 experience minus the horrible battery life. I hope we can unlock the bootloader on this device with no issues :0

I'm using an SGS4 as well and have always loved Moto handsets. I'm sure the Moto X is going to be great. Nothing beats Moto radios...
The bootloader is supposed to be unlockable on the Google Store variant, which is what I'm gunning for...

Beach_Head said:
I'm using an SGS4 as well and have always loved Moto handsets. I'm sure the Moto X is going to be great. Nothing beats Moto radios...
The bootloader is supposed to be unlockable on the Google Store variant, which is what I'm gunning for...
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When is the google version coming out?
Would the google store variant be stripped of the moto x features? Sort of like the google sgs4 edition stripped of tw. IDK.

SysAdmNj said:
When is the google version coming out?
Would the google store variant be stripped of the moto x features? Sort of like the google sgs4 edition stripped of tw. IDK.
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No. Google edition will be exactly the same moto x.
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No. Google edition will be exactly the same moto x.
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That would be great, the question is when? And why would they not release at the same time as carriers. I mean I'm guessing they dont want to interfere with carrier sales but that can also backfire as people can just wait for the google version? More choices for different types of users.

I'm sorta making a lateral move. I am going from the Galaxy Nexus to the to the Moto X. It isn't really a major spec bump if I remember all the specs correctly.

jonnyg1097 said:
I'm sorta making a lateral move. I am going from the Galaxy Nexus to the to the Moto X. It isn't really a major spec bump if I remember all the specs correctly.
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I may be doing the same - sort of. My nexus died so I'm using a Bionic right now. I want to see more user reviews of the X.
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i'm going from a GNex to the MotoX. so comparable that i hope my car-mount works for it

Currently have the SGS3. Not really wanting a new phone, but wife needs one and has an upgrade, so she's taking this and I get a new one!
I thought I would be a shoe in for the SGS4, but the X has really intrigued me. That and I just end up running CM 10.X on the galaxy, so why not start out with a stockish experience? I do enjoy ROMing and modding, so not sure how that will work out if I get it thru Verizon on contract. If unlocking the bootloader is definitely a no-go, then I could wait for developer edition. Not sure what I'll do.
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jmcharles said:
If unlocking the bootloader is definitely a no-go, then I could wait for developer edition. Not sure what I'll do.
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We never know if it's a sure thing or not. I think with there being so many variations with unlocked BL we have a better chance.
Who knows, maybe Dan R wants a big fat payday again for showing motorola up.
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jonnyg1097 said:
I'm sorta making a lateral move. I am going from the Galaxy Nexus to the to the Moto X. It isn't really a major spec bump if I remember all the specs correctly.
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The x will be a lot faster and a considerable bump to your Galaxy Nexus.
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I will be switching from Google edition HTC One.. I will keep HTC one until the moto x gets 4.3.
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the way the software and hardware work together far surpasses any higher specd device on the market right now..
the reason the iphone is such a success (other than crazy marketing) even with its sub-par specs is because the hardware and software play nicely giving you a very smooth user experience.

DonDizzurp said:
the way the software and hardware work together far surpasses any higher specd device on the market right now..
the reason the iphone is such a success (other than crazy marketing) even with its sub-par specs is because the hardware and software play nicely giving you a very smooth user experience.
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Very good point, hopefully its true on the Moto X.

DonDizzurp said:
the way the software and hardware work together far surpasses any higher specd device on the market right now..
the reason the iphone is such a success (other than crazy marketing) even with its sub-par specs is because the hardware and software play nicely giving you a very smooth user experience.
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This is such an annoying thing to read over and over.
The iPhone STILL has a class leading GPU and a year ago it's processor was EXCELLENT. Apple doesn't skimp on specs. They use less ram sometimes, but that's about it.

eallan said:
This is such an annoying thing to read over and over.
The iPhone STILL has a class leading GPU and a year ago it's processor was EXCELLENT. Apple doesn't skimp on specs. They use less ram sometimes, but that's about it.
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Its CPU is nothing to write home about. The dual core swift is about on par with the MSM8960 krait CPU. I doubt that the A7 CPU will surpass the SD800, but the OS is less demanding and the GPU will be awesome, although Samsung is starting to use imagination technologies GPUs again, which is good.
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SysAdmNj said:
Very good point, hopefully its true on the Moto X.
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Based on all the reviews I have read, there hasn't been anything you would normally do with a phone that the MotoX cannot do and is very responsive. That's all you really can ask for. The Adreno 320 GPU is the same as what's in the htc one and sgs4, so gaming isn't an issue either.

Psilocin said:
Based on all the reviews I have read, there hasn't been anything you would normally do with a phone that the MotoX cannot do and is very responsive. That's all you really can ask for. The Adreno 320 GPU is the same as what's in the htc one and sgs4, so gaming isn't an issue either.
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As long as its staying as close to vanilla as possible sprinkled with a few moto x goodies, it should be smooth. I hardly game on my devices. I'm looking forward to this, not expecting to be wow'ed. I was going to wait for the nexus 5, but lg again? I'm not the biggest lg fan.

Beach_Head said:
I'm using an SGS4 as well and have always loved Moto handsets. I'm sure the Moto X is going to be great. Nothing beats Moto radios...
The bootloader is supposed to be unlockable on the Google Store variant, which is what I'm gunning for...
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My Verizon GS3 (Owned 2) wireless radio > RAZR Maxx + Razr HD. Better Wi-Fi range & connection as well.
To answer the thread, no. I will not be getting the Moto X. Development has always been weak for Motorola phones. I've owned 2 stated above. My wife use to own the Motorola Photon on Sprint. I know Motorola phones well enough lol. Not blaming developers. It's Motorola's security and locking everything down. Plus I don't like Motorola's camera quality for pictures and videos.
I'm now waiting to see what the next gen Nexus will bring. After owning a Nexus 7 (2013), I enjoy it too much I now want that experience on my phone also. Still love my S3 but when my contract is up, time to move on.
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Thank Me Later said:
My Verizon GS3 (Owned 2) wireless radio > RAZR Maxx + Razr HD. Better Wi-Fi range & connection as well.
To answer the thread, no. I will not be getting the Moto X. Development has always been weak for Motorola phones. I've owned 2 stated above. My wife use to own the Motorola Photon on Sprint. I know Motorola phones well enough lol. Not blaming developers. It's Motorola's security and locking everything down. Plus I don't like Motorola's camera quality for pictures and videos.
I'm now waiting to see what the next gen Nexus will bring. After owning a Nexus 7 (2013), I enjoy it too much I now want that experience on my phone also. Still love my S3 but when my contract is up, time to move on.
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Locked down? Not the google edition or dev edtion. Thats what I'm waiting for. Also from what I understand this motorola device will not be like any of its previous "droid" "razr" devices and amen for that.

Major Shocker..Lenevo reportedly buying Motorola

http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/29/5358620/lenovo-reportedly-buying-motorola-mobility-from-google
Verge reporting Lenevo planning to buy Moto. This will SUCK big time.
Edit : is now official
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2014/01/lenovo-to-acquire-motorola-mobility.html?m=1

Not what I wanted to hear having just ordered an X. Tbh I might return if this turns out to be true.

I feel sick.

Yeah this sucks. Guess no more updates past 4.4.2.
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Damm noo

Feel like throwing my Moto X
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Take a look at the verge link within op's link. The comments are great!
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****. I feel like an asshole for recommending Motorola phones to friends, assuming they'd get updates faster because of their proximity to Google.

But......But I just got a walnut back 32gb X. Really don't want to rma, but if this is true, not sure that I want to keep it.

I'm still sticking with my VZW Dev Edition for now because I can tether my unlimited data and it's way way way faster than my Galaxy Nexus... but FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...

My initial reaction was shock and dismay, specifically because I really thought Google was helping to turn around Motorola. But the truth is that Lenovo does turn out quality products too. My past three laptops have all been Thinkpads and my latest one, a 2013 T430, is a tank that takes a licking but keeps on ticking. One can only hope that Lenovo will let Motorola continue its trend for quality phones like the X.

Idk but that would suck!
Note 2 N3BULIZED!

This is what happens when the bean counters are in charge instead of the engineers.
Google stock up 2.7% in afterhours.

kampana said:
My initial reaction was shock and dismay, specifically because I really thought Google was helping to turn around Motorola. But the truth is that Lenovo does turn out quality products too. My past three laptops have all been Thinkpads and my latest one, a 2013 T430, is a tank that takes a licking but keeps on ticking. One can only hope that Lenovo will let Motorola continue its trend for quality phones like the X.
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But they will push their crappie skin instead of stock.
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Why wouldn't lenovo continue to update their software?
seems like you guys might be over reacting a bit.

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2014/01/lenovo-to-acquire-motorola-mobility.html

Well that sucks, now you don't only have to worry about the U.S. government spying but now the Chinese government as well, I own a lenovo tablet and all we got is 1 frigging update
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How bad can this really be? Is everyone over reacting? Or should I just buy a Nexus 5 now so I can return the Moto X ASAP. They extended my return grace period until the 31st.

Looks like it's finally official, sold to Lenovo for $2.91B.

all of these massive price reductions make sense now.
I really don't know what my next phone will be. I am not a fan of anything out there right now.

Moto G will be upgraded to android L

Motorola announced on their hangouts chat that it will be bringing android L to (old) moto g as well. But IMO we will probably get it later than the new version..
That's some great news!
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Thats great news
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Good news screen shot?

Great, wasn't surprise though

Here's the video: (11mins - New MotoG discussion begins)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1ne0Li7hvs&list=UUJkBIeTewoQGgtviUe5LH_g​

Yup, listen the video from 21.00 mint.
He told past version can also expect/ will get the next L upgrade after New Moto G update:good:.
What i think is "Probability for Legacy Moto G upgrade is more, since New & Legacy version have same base H/W configuration, Except Camera & SD card slot (On major end of change) so If 2nd Gen is updated than it will not be a big deal for Motorola to upgrade the legacy product also.. "

That's all I wanted to hear.. Thanks again Motorola for this awesome device!! Switching from Sony to Motorola was one of the best decisions I've made... :beer:

very good news for a very good phone :good:

Shouldn't be a issue as the new one has same spec as the old one except the screen size and SD card

Great! I couldn't be happier with this phone

Yea we would be getting l but how long is the question! I think next year mid June

sonygoup said:
Yea we would be getting l but how long is the question! I think next year mid June
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Are you serious? Motorola tends to roll out Android updates rather quickly. I would guess by this November or December at the latest.

bozzykid said:
Are you serious? Motorola tends to roll out Android updates rather quickly. I would guess by this November or December at the latest.
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I thought he meant how long will it be supported til rather than when the L update would be released. Anyhow, either way, the L update would probably occur after the Moto G2 so dec/ Jan does seem reasonable. Of course it might take longer if you're locked with a carrier as we've already seen with 4.4.4.

Sorry I meant how we'd still get support for the device as seen in the pass where a lot of Moto devices lose support quickly

sonygoup said:
Sorry I meant how we'd still get support for the device as seen in the pass where a lot of Moto devices lose support quickly
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They will at least support it as long as L is the active release. I'm guessing at least another year. And since the new Moto G is the same basic chipset as the current version, maybe even longer.

Awesome news.. So it's probably not too far fetched we may see cm12 and more..

Sony lover just got moto G first ever non Sony
MarckozZ said:
That's all I wanted to hear.. Thanks again Motorola for this awesome device!! Switching from Sony to Motorola was one of the best decisions I've made... :beer:
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So I can see many people are happy with the moto g, I just got mine and actually felt bad, like I was a trader to Sony! They have always been my favorite since cell phones first came out pretty much, I am however enjoying the G for the most part, only thing is....I thought the G was the x I think. Is the X a better phone than the G? Should I stick with the G, or get the X? Honestly tho, I'd really like if the G had T9 as well, any apk suggestions for good t9 keyboards? The ones in play all suck.
Thanks everyone! I am kind of glad I made the switch from Sony,? lol

Bonniemac said:
So I can see many people are happy with the moto g, I just got mine and actually felt bad, like I was a trader to Sony! They have always been my favorite since cell phones first came out pretty much, I am however enjoying the G for the most part, only thing is....I thought the G was the x I think. Is the X a better phone than the G? Should I stick with the G, or get the X? Honestly tho, I'd really like if the G had T9 as well, any apk suggestions for good t9 keyboards? The ones in play all suck.
Thanks everyone! I am kind of glad I made the switch from Sony,? lol
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The Moto X is the higher end phone to the Moto G. Not necessarily better however. Better for some people might not be better for you. The Moto X has a faster SoC and more RAM, a slightly larger screen and additional always-on voice functionality. Software wise they are essentially the same.

Bonniemac said:
So I can see many people are happy with the moto g, I just got mine and actually felt bad, like I was a trader to Sony! They have always been my favorite since cell phones first came out pretty much, I am however enjoying the G for the most part, only thing is....I thought the G was the x I think. Is the X a better phone than the G? Should I stick with the G, or get the X? Honestly tho, I'd really like if the G had T9 as well, any apk suggestions for good t9 keyboards? The ones in play all suck.
Thanks everyone! I am kind of glad I made the switch from Sony,�� lol
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I just ran away from Sony's side because the lack of updates.. That's why.. Besides, I started to like a lot more the AOSP UI rather that NXT UI on Sony devices... Just took a look at Xperia Z3 UI.. that battery icon is awful... too bad.. and that new launcher that looks like stock Android launcher just doesn't fit there, looks like Z3 comes with Nova Launcher as stock launcher.. That new UI on Sony (which will be present from now on in every Sony device) made me think I've made the right choice..

Bonniemac said:
So I can see many people are happy with the moto g, I just got mine and actually felt bad, like I was a trader to Sony! They have always been my favorite since cell phones first came out pretty much, I am however enjoying the G for the most part, only thing is....I thought the G was the x I think. Is the X a better phone than the G? Should I stick with the G, or get the X? Honestly tho, I'd really like if the G had T9 as well, any apk suggestions for good t9 keyboards? The ones in play all suck.
Thanks everyone! I am kind of glad I made the switch from Sony,? lol
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If you want t9 u can try smart keyboard pro.i am using that keyboard since my 1st smart phone.qwerty layout just not for my big thumb.

Barely Used My Verizon Moto X 2014 Gonna Get Rid of It

As soon as the Nexus 6 is released on Verizon I am getting it and selling the Moto X 2014. The N6 is too big for me to be my daily driver but I will have to learn to deal with the size because I can root the N6.
I really like the Moto X 2014 but no root really sucks. I am sorry I bought it. Nice leather back, perfect size, great Moto features like active display, assist, etc.
I'm so bummed. But I can't be happy if I can't root and do with my phone what I want. Everytime I look at it I just feel sadness instead of the excitement I felt with my OG Moto X 2013.
The resale value really sucks too. Who would want an Android phone you can't root? Even iPhones have jailbreak!!!! Gah, I would be better off with a Verizon iPhone 6 than a Verizon Moto X 2014. Unbelievable.
I know, it didn't have root before I bought it, I knew. But I had hope that either a code would be available for sale or a dev would get lucky and find an exploit. I really wanted this to be my phone. Oh well, someone else who doesn't care about root will get a good deal.
I've learned my lesson - I will never buy a phone unless root is available BEFORE I buy it. I think if the N6 is just too big, I will get the M9 if it gets root.

JulesJam said:
Gah, I would be better off with a Verizon iPhone 6 than a Verizon Moto X 2014. Unbelievable.
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Wow. Iphone better than android unrooted. You should be ashamed.

JulesJam said:
As soon as the Nexus 6 is released on Verizon I am getting it and selling the Moto X 2014. The N6 is too big for me to be my daily driver but I will have to learn to deal with the size because I can root the N6.
I really like the Moto X 2014 but no root really sucks. I am sorry I bought it. Nice leather back, perfect size, great Moto features like active display, assist, etc.
I'm so bummed. But I can't be happy if I can't root and do with my phone what I want. Everytime I look at it I just feel sadness instead of the excitement I felt with my OG Moto X 2013.
The resale value really sucks too. Who would want an Android phone you can't root? Even iPhones have jailbreak!!!! Gah, I would be better off with a Verizon iPhone 6 than a Verizon Moto X 2014. Unbelievable.
I know, it didn't have root before I bought it, I knew. But I had hope that either a code would be available for sale or a dev would get lucky and find an exploit. I really wanted this to be my phone. Oh well, someone else who doesn't care about root will get a good deal.
I've learned my lesson - I will never buy a phone unless root is available BEFORE I buy it. I think if the N6 is just too big, I will get the M9 if it gets root.
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Why don't you get one from other operator and unlock it?

edios123 said:
Why don't you get one from other operator and unlock it?
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They don't work on Verizon. If it were that simple that is what all of us on Verizon would do.

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Wow. Iphone better than android unrooted. You should be ashamed.
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LOL! No, Motorola should be ashamed. A jailbroken iPhone is a HUGE IMPROVEMENT over an unrootable Android. Obviously you know nothing about jailbroken iPhones.
Don't be a mindless Android fanboi. iPhones have some good features and if you can jailbreak them they are MILES ABOVE an unrooted Android. Until ICS, Android was a primitive, laggy operating system whose only strong point was the ease of root. From ICS on it is much better but still, without root, it's got nothing on a jailbroken iPhone.

Maybe if it meant that much to you, next time do research before you buy.

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Maybe if it meant that much to you, next time do research before you buy.
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Reading comprehension dude, lol!!! Take a course in it, lol!!
Go back and read my post. I KNEW it was unrootable when I bought it. I just had hope that obviously didn't pan out. And now I am very disappointed.
So um no, dude, research isn't the issue. Is English not your first language? Cuz if it is, you need to work on your reading comp skills.

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LOL! No, Motorola should be ashamed. A jailbroken iPhone is a HUGE IMPROVEMENT over an unrootable Android. Obviously you know nothing about jailbroken iPhones.
Don't be a mindless Android fanboi. iPhones have some good features and if you can jailbreak them they are MILES ABOVE an unrooted Android. Until ICS, Android was a primitive, laggy operating system whose only strong point was the ease of root. From ICS on it is much better but still, without root, it's got nothing on a jailbroken iPhone.
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Not an "android fan boy" I just simply don't like apple what they stand for. Plain and simple. I'll never give them a penny of mine.
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Reading comprehension dude, lol!!! Take a course in it, lol!!
Go back and read my post. I KNEW it was unrootable when I bought it. I just had hope that obviously didn't pan out. And now I am very disappointed.
So um no, dude, research isn't the issue. Is English not your first language? Cuz if it is, you need to work on your reading comp skills.
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Wow. Got a chip on your shoulder? Take it easy man.

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Not an "android fan boy" I just simply don't like apple what they stand for. Plain and simple. I'll never give them a penny of mine.
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I don't buy their stuff either but how is an unrootable Android any better? It's not. It's just as locked down.
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Wow. Got a chip on your shoulder?
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Nope, but the poster I was responding to (which wasn't YOU) sure did. He didn't even read my post, lol! Geez, read people read!
One poster told me to get another carrier's Moto X 2014. Wow that was helpful. Not.
Do you even have a Verizon Moto X 2014? I would prefer to only hear from those with VERIZON Moto X 2014 as the rest of you don't know what it is like.

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Do you even have a Verizon Moto X 2014? I would prefer to only hear from those with VERIZON Moto X 2014 as the rest of you don't know what it is like.
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I don't have one, but looked at one and do know what it is like... which is a big reason why I switched to T-Mobile.
I think your gripe is more with Verizon than Motorola. It is big red that doesn't want you rooting your phone. There were numerous issues with Verizon and Nexus models as well, which is why a number of Nexus models ignored them. Moto isn't Apple. If they want their device registered on big red's network, they have to do as big red says.

Calm down, dude. You have a post that doesn't really contribute anything (complaining about the lack of root on a carrier locked device) and have proceeded to bash everyone in your thread.
And if root matters so much to you, why are you so dependent on a carrier that tries to lock down their devices? Why not get unlocked devices on a GSM carrier? Only reason to stick with big red is if you're grandfathered into unlimited data or if they're literally the only adequate carrier in your area.

I am also thinking about getting rid of Moto X, I am tired of waiting and there is no guarantee that it will be rooted. I really miss xposed and tethering.

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I think your gripe is more with Verizon than Motorola. It is big red that doesn't want you rooting your phone. There were numerous issues with Verizon and Nexus models as well, which is why a number of Nexus models ignored them. Moto isn't Apple. If they want their device registered on big red's network, they have to do as big red says.
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I agree but why did they allow the Nexus 6?

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And if root matters so much to you, why are you so dependent on a carrier that tries to lock down their devices? Why not get unlocked devices on a GSM carrier? Only reason to stick with big red is if you're grandfathered into unlimited data or if they're literally the only adequate carrier in your area.
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So you don't have a Verizon Moto X 2014 right? And LOL! at your other claims.

sherpajosh said:
I am also thinking about getting rid of Moto X, I am tired of waiting and there is no guarantee that it will be rooted. I really miss xposed and tethering.
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I know how you feel and it really is a shame because the phone is great other than lack of root.
I hope the M9 can be rooted. If so I will get that and sell the Nexus b/c I think the Nexus is just going to be too big.

Until it's released, there's no guarantee the bootloader is unlockable, or that it can be rooted, although I'm confident it will be.
Google has much more pull than Moto when it comes to dictating to Verizon about how their device will be used.
You also must be aware that there are no guarantees the M9 will be unlockable or rooted, right? Just because the M7 and M8 were exploitable doesn't mean the M9 will be.
You truly need to use a carrier other than Verizon if you want the freedom to unlock/root your devices. Everyone knows that

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I agree but why did they allow the Nexus 6?
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What? Nexus 6 is like developer phone. Google doesn't allow Verizon to lock it because it's a nexus. Everyone will go with pitchforks to Verizon if they lock nexus. If Verizon insists they want to lock down nexus then Google will say no thanks and Verizon will not carry it.
Motorola or other OEMs don't have the balls to show the middle finger to the worst carrier in the world who craps every phone with ugly logos and locked devices.

For every reason that this thread started is why I left Verizon. My first smartphone was the Motorola Droid. I loved it. There were rumors that VZW would cut off unlimited data if you didn't switch to LTE now (then 2011? I forget)... so I got the best available LTE phone at the time - Samsung Droid Charge. It was the biggest mistake even with root. I vowed to never get another Samsung. Then the Galaxy Nexus happened. I got that but VZW wasn't good at updating it and I wasn't all too happy with the ROMs or its screen burn-in. I held on to that unlimited data as long as possible but good device options were severely lagging. I tried out T-Mobile with a Nexus 4 that went on sale at Google Play. It was a hard decision, but one month later I took control and switched completely to T-Mobile when the Nexus 5 came out. Best. Experience. Yet.
Why am I here? My Moto X PE just arrived and it has in common what my other devices have had - an unlocked/able bootloader. So in a long round-about way, what I'm trying to say is you might be best to switch carriers as mentioned earlier in the thread. If T-Mobile isn't a choice there's always AT&T, or any smaller MVNO, or pre-paid. You'll never have to worry about choices because it's all YOURS to make. If VZW is the only one with adequate service in your area, then it looks like your available device options will be very severely limited. I hardly believe Motorola is the one to blame here.

Cool story bro

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What? Nexus 6 is like developer phone. Google doesn't allow Verizon to lock it because it's a nexus. .
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That's not my point. My point is that VERIZON didn't allow the Nexus 4 or the Nexus 5 on their network. Why did Verizon allow the N6?

All Moto X Owners Please Read

Hello, i just wanted bring all of you together to read this thread. Ok so i know since you've been a Moto owner, you've heard or seen at least once insulting comment about your device or the Motorola company. For example, "Anything that Motorola makes sucks" "People only get them because they're cheap" "That phone is crappy". I know that those people are ignorant to other people's liking. I'm tired of hearing the same thing. A lot of people that own super expensive high end- flashy smartphones say things like that about devices like the Moto series. Well that really offends me, just because they might not be the most high-end smartphones or the most expensive smartphones doesn't mean they are worthless. We Moto owners take great pride in our device, we appreciate what we have and we value our smartphones.
If someone offered me a brand new Galaxy S6 and a brand new Moto X and said i could only pick one. I would pick the Moto X hands down without a doubt in my mind. Because I know, We know what matters in a smartphone. What is that? User experience and performance for the price. That's what a review comes down to at the end of the day. A company could make a super spec'd out smartphone but get the same review score as a phone a fraction of its cost. I know if i were to buy a $1000 smartphone it better be great in every aspect and i know if i bought a smartphone for half that price, i'm not expecting it to be perfect but i want to have a good performance. That's exactly what motorola does, it gives you a great performing phone for the price.
For example, the Moto G. It has a low price point but does everything you need it to do. If I want a super powerful gaming machine of a smartphone, I'm not going to buy the Moto G. Then give a bad review for not being able to do what i wanted it to. I'm gonna buy a smartphone with a powerful chipset. At the end of the day we Moto owners stand out. Other people don't seem to understand our taste in smartphones value. Im not saying if you own a super expensive phone you're a bad person or anything. I'm just saying you get what you pay for. All of you Moto owners, good job in picking a smartphone. It doesn't matter if you have a Moto E, a Moto G or a Moto X. We all are equal and unified. #Teammoto
Proof that price doesn't matter

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I have a Moto X 2013 and I had recently acquired a Samsung Galaxy S4. The S4 ran hotter, slower, and had screen issues. I ended up selling it for less than it cost for me to buy and repair the Galaxy S4. Custom rom support for the samsung galaxy S4 was amazing. I really look forward to seeing how the Moto X 2013 handles with lollipop.

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I would really like sd card slot.

This thread is full of win.

the phone sucks and people posting threads like this are idiots.

andTab said:
the phone sucks and people posting threads like this are idiots.
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You're just jealous you didn't have the idea to create a badass thread like this.

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andTab said:
the phone sucks and people posting threads like this are idiots.
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Jizzylax said:
You're just jealous you didn't have the idea to create a badass thread like this.
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Mods, please do everyone a favor and close this thread. While I truly appreciate someone trying to start something positive here about the Moto X, after the last couple of posts, I can see exactly where this thread is going and it's not a nice place. I'm all for people expressing their opinion but I think that it may be better for everyone that's on this forum to nip it in the bud. It's already starting to go downhill and this thread was started earlier today.
By the way, I do own a Moto X (2013) Developer Edition and think that it's a wonderful phone. The screen went black on the one that I owned all of a sudden a week and a half ago. I called Motorola and got a warranty replacement within one week. Thank goodness I had a Samsung Galaxy S3 that I could use as a backup but when I got my Moto X back, I realized the exact reason why I love the Motorola smartphones. Samsung Galaxy S3 drags when you compare it to the Moto X (2013) Developer Edition.
Glad to have my little speed demon back.
Coming from a proud Motorola Moto X owner.

Motorola is lame in case of updating moto x to lollipop while other phones are being updated as soon as new firmware is available.
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ajsonofgod said:
Motorola is lame in case of updating moto x to lollipop while other phones are being updated as soon as new firmware is available.
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That's odd. The only Android phones that I know of that get the updates as soon as the new firmware is available are the Nexus line of smartphones. All of the other ones, you do have to wait a little while before the update rolls out. You know, sometimes it is not the phone manufacturer's fault that the update is delayed. Sometimes it can be because of something on your wireless phone carrier's end. I know Verizon is famous for delaying the releases until all of their bloatware will work with the phone's update. I've experienced it on multiple phones with them (Samsung and Motorola) and that part is very frustrating. There is no need in throwing Motorola under the bus on this.

cindylike24 said:
That's odd. The only Android phones that I know of that get the updates as soon as the new firmware is available are the Nexus line of smartphones. All of the other ones, you do have to wait a little while before the update rolls out. You know, sometimes it is not the phone manufacturer's fault that the update is delayed. Sometimes it can be because of something on your wireless phone carrier's end. I know Verizon is famous for delaying the releases until all of their bloatware will work with the phone's update. I've experienced it on multiple phones with them (Samsung and Motorola) and that part is very frustrating. There is no need in throwing Motorola under the bus on this.
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As you see for moto x didnt get the update yet but my s4 got it. M not criticising moto i love my moto x but they are slow in contrast to updates..
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ajsonofgod said:
As you see for moto x didnt get the update yet but my s4 got it. M not criticising moto i love my moto x but they are slow in contrast to updates..
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Well, that's just an anomaly. Normally, Samsung is slow as molasses about their updates. I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 8.0 Wi-Fi model and it hasn't received the Lollipop update yet. My sister has the S5 and she got her Lollopop update fairly quickly but her phone doesn't work as well as my Moto X does now. Wonder if Samsung pushed it out too quickly and didn't get all of the bugs out. Some of my friends have the Samsung phones that got the Lollipop update and while it runs okay, they also have issues with this new update.
Something to ponder. Maybe we ought to be patient and wait for the parties involved to get all the little kinks worked out of this update before they roll it out to everyone.